Saudi Arabia using India to counter Pakistan! WAH UMMAT-E-MUSLIMAH!

sngilani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
How is it back stabbing??(yapping) They turned in a couple of terrorists to India(clap). Explain how this is back stabbing???(yapping)

Saudia is getting angry from Pakistan. Because Pakistan has identified their pets (Talibans) as the root cause of problems. With the support of Arab States FATA has become world terror center launching proxy wars to all over the world. Reason is to corner shias. Also Bhutto clan and Zardari are inclined towards Iran.
 
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Lawangeen

Minister (2k+ posts)
I think it's a time to worry for india, saudi good relation with them mean to create more mujahideen from 200 million muslims in india .... (bigsmile)
 

Unicorn

Banned
In past 30 years Pakistan is used by whole world like a tissue paper for their purpose .... Europian supported cold war in order to destroy soviet block and for that they chose the venue as Afghanistan and logistic support center as Pakistan ..... They fought their war in our region and got the result without destroying a single brick in their region and now we are giving the price. similarly all middle eastern countries sent their sick minded radicalized jihadis to Afghan war back in 80s in order to bring their countries to modern tracks .... now radicalized shiit of all muslim arabic countries are dumped again in Afghanistan and Pakistan in the form of al-qaeda so that these arabic nations can run their casinos, beaches, pubs safely without a threat and they know that we the poor Pakistanis can pay the price. These bull-shiit arabic nations are still sending 100 million dollar to these jihadis in Pakistan so that they should focus this region and forget about the crimes happening in their homeland ..... ask any ttp butcher about this and they will not be able to give any answer but in reply they will try motivate you that their b a s t a r d s arabic brothers are supporting this jihad in Afghanistan and Pakistan ...... Pakistani people are sick because they start their relations with every nation based on emotions .... they never think from their brains .... their brains are busy in dreaming of beautiful womens in this world and hereafter or getting rich through shortcuts .... It was our fault that we allowed these Chechen, Uzbek, Arabs to settle down in FATA after the Afghan-russia war because their homelands were not ready to take them back their radicalized shiiiit ..... you see what happened to OBL when he went back to Saudi .... He started to threat Saudi government for having American bases in their country and after that Saudi kick that OBL shiiit to sudan and then to Afghanistan to make their country peaceful but we the great nation are ready to fought for anyone for few billion dollars and ready to take crap of whole world for some bugs ..... we now really need to give impotency pills to our radicalized factions so that they should forget about 70 hoors and use their brain when taking such emotional decision on the name of Ummah or Islam .... These middle eastern countries are not our friends they are just dumping their shiit in our country in order to modernize their countries ..... we should seriously reconsider our relationship and stop this terrorism funding of 100 millions and we should threat these nation if any of your citizen will fund these jihadiz then we will bomb your assssses that is how this terrorism genie can be bring back in the bottle .... and if we will cry every day for f u c k e d brotherhood then be ready to bombed by these radicalized shiit of whole arabic world because they will happily send such people to this region in order to save their own countries from such incidents which are happening on daily basis in Pakistan ....... F u c k i n g brotherhood ..... these are biggest s u c k e r s and american agents ....

No sir, it was Pakistan who used the west for $$$$$ from the very beginning. It offered it self as an ally of the west for money and took full advantage of the cold war. For $$ it signed Seto, Sento pact. It offered and rented out its airbase in Peshawar for $$$$$$.

Sir, allies don't charge money it their interests are mutual. When the cold war was over there was no need of Pakistan anymore and no reason to pay any money.

Pakistan is wholly responsible it got treated the same way it treated others.
 

Lyallpur

Banned
Pakistan has turned into a begging bowl, whenever they visit Saudis, they ask for money. Now question is this;

1- Are Saudis going to ask India to declare Qadianis as non Muslim, before having good relationship? As they asked Pakistan in 1970s?
2- What is future of Pakistan's Jihad policy until the Ghazwa e Hind come true?
3- As our Generals are flying to Moscow for short while, do we still claim that we broke Russian federation?
4- As China is no more interested in Pakistan's foreign policy based on jingoism, so do seemingly Arabs now, so what is future of Jihadi corporations of holy land of god? And foremost the kashmir?
 

Farooq Khan

MPA (400+ posts)
[MENTION=13871]Unicorn[/MENTION] politics is a very serious business and terrorism is a reality many countries have to deal with this but it depends on how brilliant people are working on this problem Pakistani politicians are not seasoned one they are corrupt as well another thing in real politics there are no friends just alleys you go case by case.
but india and Pakistan relationship are so messed up even people on both side almost hate each other give you a good example yesterday on Google people were appreciating Pakistani flag in Lahore this was just for fun or you can say for record in the books anyways few indians were also there but they were not writing a word about flags record breaking rather i would say bs this is not good for Aman ki Asha especially when educated people do this i will laugh when one of shiv sina people do this kind of thing,because i know their role in indian politics.
 

ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I will be more irritating best to give me dislike and be confortable

stop u .n.i before i tell you to R.I.P. only one hint this time.

what citizensship did all those terrorist have, who attcked U.S.A. and killed 3000 innocent human beings. Attacking and killing innocnet humans is prohibited in Islam.

Let me quote you directly from Our Holy book. An Indian scholars is narrating this for you UNI.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YLCn0KyIHT0
 

ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
No sir, it was Pakistan who used the west for $$$$$ from the very beginning. It offered it self as an ally of the west for money and took full advantage of the cold war. For $$ it signed Seto, Sento pact. It offered and rented out its airbase in Peshawar for $$$$$$.

Sir, allies don't charge money it their interests are mutual. When the cold war was over there was no need of Pakistan anymore and no reason to pay any money.

Pakistan is wholly responsible it got treated the same way it treated others.

Hay UNI stop repeating this again and again and again, I have on many occasion told you but you with your Indian agenda keep spewing the same poison against Pakistan, so go away. and RIP.(Rest In Peace)

Your lies about degrading Pakistan are pure lies and are based on Indain propoganda. so go away. and if you must than read all my previous posts about this in answer to your propoganda.................
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ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Pakistan is wholly responsible it got treated the same way it treated others.[/QUOTE]

Hay UNI stop repeating this again and again and again, I have on many occasion told you but you with your Indian agenda keep spewing the same poison against Pakistan, so go away. and RIP.(Rest In Peace)

Your lies about degrading Pakistan are pure lies and are based on Indain propoganda. so go away. and if you must than read all my previous posts about this in answer to your propoganda.................
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You the :angry_smile: in diguise

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeJWI2orGIU&feature=player_detailpage
 

usmanakbar

Councller (250+ posts)
The Importance Of Verifying News (Question And Answer)
06-02-2008

Question:

Scholars of Islam, as-salamu `alaykum. Some people spread rumors or news without verifying the information, which mostly leads to confusion, disorder, misunderstanding, etc.

What is your advice to these people?

Answer:

Wa`alaykumas-salamu warahmatullahi wabarakatuh.

In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

Brother, thanks a lot for your question and care for the affairs of your fellow Muslim brothers and sisters.

In the first place, we would like to highlight that all of us have a responsibility to the society and world we live in, and we are also responsible to make tomorrow a better day through the accuracy of information we spread or publish. That is why Islam forbids that we base our opinions on circulate rumors and half information.

Sheikh M. S. Al-Munajjid, a prominent Saudi Muslim lecturer and author, states:

It is well known that verifying news is something of high importance according to Shari`ah, as Allah Almighty says:

"O ye who believe! If an evil person brings you tidings, verify it, lest ye smite some folk in ignorance and afterward repent of what ye did." (Al-Hujurat 49: 6).

The Lawgiver issued a stern warning against passing on all news that one hears. It was narrated that Hafs ibn `Asim said: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) is reported to have said: It is enough lying for a man to speak of everything that he hears. (Reported by Muslim)

It was also narrated from abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: It is enough sin for a man to speak of everything that he hears. (As-Silsilah as-Sahihah, 2025)

Commenting on the above hadith, imam an-Nawawi said:

"Usually a person hears truth and lies, so if he speaks of everything that he hears, he is lying by telling of things that did not happen, and lying by speaking of something other than the way it happened; and he does not have to do that deliberately (in order to be regarded as telling lies.)"

It was narrated that al-Mughirah ibn Shu`bah said: The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: Allah has forbidden you to disobey your mothers, to bury your daughters alive, to not pay the rights of others and to beg from others. And He dislikes gossip for you, asking too many questions, and wasting money. (Reported by Al-Bukhari)

In his commentary on the previous hadith, al-Hafiz ibn Hajar said: With regard to the words and He dislikes gossip for you, there are certain points that should be clarified concerning the meaning of this hadith:

1. It indicates that it is disliked (makruh) to speak too much because it leads to mistakes.

2. It refers to narrating differences of opinions concerning religious matters, such as saying, This one said such-and-such and that one said such-and-such. The reason why this is disliked is that speaking of such matters may lead to mistakes. This applies especially to those who transmit such views without verifying them, merely imitating those whom they hear without exercising caution. This is supported by the Prophetic hadith that states, It is enough sin for a man to speak of everything that he hears. (Reported by Muslim).

It was reported that ibn Mas`ud (may Allah be pleased with him) heard the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) say, How bad it is for a man to keep saying, They (i.e. other people) say (As-Silsilah as-Sahihah)

The above may explain why our righteous ancestors were keen to establish proof and were wary of rumors. `Umar ibn al-Khattab (may Allah be pleased with him) said: Beware of temptation (fitnah), for a word at the time of fitnah could be as devastating as the sword.

The following are some of the examples that show to what extent spreading rumors is dangerous among the Ummah:

1. When the Companions (may Allah be pleased with them all) migrated from Makkah to Abyssinia, they were safe, but then a rumor spread that the kuffar (disbelievers) of the Quraysh in Makkah had become Muslims. So some of those Companions in Abyssinia left it and traveled to Makkah. To their amazement, they found that the report was not true, and they met with persecution at the hands of Quraysh. All of that happened because of rumors.

2- During the Battle of Uhud, when Mus`ab ibn `Umayr (may Allah be pleased with him) was killed, there was a rumor that the one who was killed was the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him), so the army of Islam withdrew because of a rumor, and some of them fled to Madinah and some stopped fighting.

Proper Shari`ah Methodology in Dealing with Rumors

There are certain ways which help one deal with rumors, especially those related to news. Here are some of them:

1. Deliberation

The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: Deliberation is from Allah and haste is from the Satan. (As-Silsilah as-Sahihah)

It is worth stressing here that the one who deliberates may meet some of his needs while the one who is hasty may slip.

2. Verifying News

Allah Almighty says:

"O ye who believe! If an evil person brings you tidings, verify it, lest ye smite some folk in ignorance and afterward repent of what ye did" (Al-Hujurat 49: 6).

What is meant by verifying is to make strenuous effort to find out the facts behind a certain issue so as to establish whether this can be proven or not. Verifying also means to be sure of the truth of a certain report and its circumstances. Al-Hasan al-Basri said: The believer reserves judgment until the matter is proven.

In conclusion, we advise everyone to verify matters and not to rush to pass on news until they are sure that it is true, even if the news is good because if it becomes apparent that the one who passed it on is mistaken, he will lose credibility before the people, and anyone who bears a grudge towards him will use it against him.


http://theunjustmedia.com/Islamic P...e Of Verifying News (Question And Answer).htm
 

Omrkhan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Maybe 1 million Pakistanis are working in KSA. So kindly take it easy on criticism.
Also do post links of articles or websites where Indians are criticizing KSA.
 

usmanakbar

Councller (250+ posts)
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Unicorn

Banned
stop u .n.i before i tell you to R.I.P. only one hint this time.

what citizensship did all those terrorist have, who attcked U.S.A. and killed 3000 innocent human beings. Attacking and killing innocnet humans is prohibited in Islam.

Let me quote you directly from Our Holy book. An Indian scholars is narrating this for you UNI.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YLCn0KyIHT0

In this thread I am not accusing anyone for terrorism execpt for my pleasure that Saudi Arabia has turned 2 Indians wanted for terrorism in India. The citizenship of those who attacked US is Saudi Arabian and there is no evidence that SA as a State or people who live there had anything to do with it.

I disagree with you most of the religions I have studied do sanction killing of people both guilty and innocent. The scholar in the video does say that Islam prohibits killing except in the case of Murder and spreading corruption in the land. Spreading corruption in the land is a very wide spectrum. What you see in the world today is the proof.
 

Unicorn

Banned
Pakistan is wholly responsible it got treated the same way it treated others.

Hay UNI stop repeating this again and again and again, I have on many occasion told you but you with your Indian agenda keep spewing the same poison against Pakistan, so go away. and RIP.(Rest In Peace)

Your lies about degrading Pakistan are pure lies and are based on Indain propoganda. so go away. and if you must than read all my previous posts about this in answer to your propoganda.................
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You the :angry_smile: in diguise

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeJWI2orGIU&feature=player_detailpage[/QUOTE]

Sure, Sure.

As far as devil in disguise is concerned I have been voted here as Iblees_E_Azam and I am proud of it no disguise.(bigsmile)
 

tz00007

Minister (2k+ posts)
u guys should understand... india deepend relations with US... saudi is just another player for US... US and india now uses saudi to pressurize pakistan...

nothing personal its all business...

pakistan can also use russia to pressurize india... iran to pressurize saudi... there are always ways to counter... just need a smart govt..
 

lafatah

Minister (2k+ posts)
^^Pakistan could use russia to pressurize India....LOL...

we are living in fool's paradise or something...Even India never damaged Pakistan like Saudia did since the Zia Regime especially...

We must be doing something right to get rid of that blood sucking kingdom off our back