Saudi Arab and several other countries cancel arms deals with pakistan over US pressure

khanpanni

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: امریکی دبائو ... دفاعی معا ہدے منسوخ

Storm over German sale of 200 battle tanks to Saudi Arabia. Pakistan is a 3rd world country and Saudi's would prefer to buy from Germany rather than Pakistan.

Saudi Arabia is buying hundreds of tanks from Germany, a Saudi security source has said, in a multi-billion-euro deal that German opposition lawmakers have criticized as going against export guidelines.
http://www.dw.de/storm-over-german-sale-of-200-battle-tanks-to-saudi-arabia/a-15210031-1
Germany boosts arms exports to Qatar

German arms exports to the Gulf region are on the rise. Critics say Germany should not be supplying countries with such questionable human rights records. http://www.dw.de/germany-boosts-arms-exports-to-qatar/a-17004637
 

Politcs

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: امریکی دبائو ... دفاعی معا ہدے منسوخ

Pakistani tanks can not match to US tanks. Pakistan needs to sell their military items to devolping nations like in Africa etc. Saudi jas too much money and they can definetly afford expensive tanks frkm anywhere in the world.
 

Politcs

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: امریکی دبائو ... دفاعی معا ہدے منسوخ

hahaha.......If Pakistan wants, Pakistan can surely disturb the entire game by starting Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline & involving China in that but Pakistan's Govt is pet of USA so it won't be able to do anything.

Regarding Aal Saud they are the horn of Satin & you will see their doom very soon.

China was asked to invest in gas project but all chineese banks were afraid of US ban. China banks and private investors will not never risk their business with US just to make Pakistan happy.
 

niazi

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: امریکی دبائو ... دفاعی معا ہدے منسوخ

Pakistani tanks can not match to US tanks. Pakistan needs to sell their military items to devolping nations like in Africa etc. Saudi jas too much money and they can definetly afford expensive tanks frkm anywhere in the world.
You can give this advice to India as everyone know how low standard their equipment is,Pakistan will find other buyers.
 

TONIC

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: امریکی دبائو ... دفاعی معا ہدے منسوخ

China was asked to invest in gas project but all chineese banks were afraid of US ban. China banks and private investors will not never risk their business with US just to make Pakistan happy.

It's about Financial Feasibility not related to US or any other country.
 

jason

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: امریکی دبائو ... دفاعی معا ہدے منسوخ

The thing is pakistan situation is very fluid and gas pipeline will cross the area of balochistan with current law and order situation no bank would like its funds to stuck up.

we have to get hold of things and decide for long term. Short term gains of individuals should not come between the goals of state.
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
this one is really funny, the solution is there but u dont want to take that solution :D
the solution is "khilafa" but no one is talking about it :D

yup, khilafat is the only way out of the da jjali mess we are in



some time ago I read a comment in a yahoo forum from a Jewish member. He wrote: We are destroying Pakistan's Islamic culture so no mujahid will surface.

I wrote to him: You got it all wrong way pal. Destroyed Islamic society IS where a mujahid is needed and one will surface. Your country and the West are inadvertently paving the way for a Mujahid's birth. If a country is flourishing under Islamic values, why would we need a Mujahid? You better help us put Pakistan back under Islamic values if you dont want to see a Mujahid born!!!

All he replied was 'Oh I see'


Obviously he was in a complete shock that it makes sense:lol:
 

the.paki

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: امریکی دبائو ... دفاعی معا ہدے منسوخ

اس معاملے میں ہم بھی کسی سے کم نہیں . ہم جتنا منافق شاید ہی کوئی ہو
دوسری بات یہ کہ ٹیکنالوجی بوہت تیزی سے ترّقی کر رہی ہے
اور ہماری فوج کے پاس سب چیزیں پرانے ماڈل کی ہیں

آخری بات یہ کہ ہزاروں انجنیئر ہماری فوج میں کام کر رہے جنھیں دنیا کی ہر سہولت دی گئے ہے مگر انھیں تنخوا لانے کے علاوہ کچھ نہیں آتا
 

zeshaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: امریکی دبائو ... دفاعی معا ہدے منسوخ

کیا کسی پاکستانی حکمران نے لفظ منسوخ کبھی سنا بھی ہے ؟
 

ngenius

MPA (400+ posts)
This is may be off-topic, however we need to address these to dig ourselves out the hole.

Media is playing a big role in shaping our society and we need to introduce measure to control it.

Pakistani government have suppressed Islamic values and introduced western/Hindu/Indian/Bollywood culture in our society which caused a major problem for us. Because our cultures/values are getting influenced by foreign culture (western/Hindu/Indian/Bollywood) which is promoting vulgarity and unIslamic activities. These bold themes are badly affecting the ethics and are creating negative influence on the naive audience especially youngsters. These are attacking the spiritual roots of Pakistani youth. In addition, they are showing Indian dramas, that is further damaging our identity. Constantly promoting Western & Indian culture, showing fashion shows full of vulgarity is destroying our culture. As a result, we can see the increase in number of crimes against Women including rape.

I blame Musharraf for not setting rules for Media. There is no ratting system in Pakistan. We are NOT Turkey....[Turkey literacy rate, youth female (% of females ages 15-24) in Turkey was 96.57 as of 2009. Its highest value over the past 34 years was 96.57 in 2009, while its lowest value was 68.25 in 1975. I don't trust wikipedia, Pakistan literacy rate (50%) is quit low compare to Turkey. There are hardly any schools in Interior Sindh and Balochistan.] Our illiterate people don' t know anything.

1) We need to educate the masses. Media can play a big role in this. We have millions of unSkilled workers who are going to Middleast countries for labor work.
2) Introduce rating system for all channels.
3) Control vulgarity and unIslamic activities on the TV programs.
4) Introduce Islam to the Youth (special program for the Youth by Youth), NOT by Jaali Dr Aamir Liaqat Husain
5) Corrupt/Anti-Pakistani Media anchors and channels should be prosecuted.
 
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abdlsy

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
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ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Did Pakistan not have a clause in the contract to charge full price if anyone cancels the contract, it is a normal clause in a contracts signed by both parties, if not than the one who draw up the contract was a knowledgeable about contracts and the clauses in it.
 

ngenius

MPA (400+ posts)
I didn't say India doesn't have corruption. They also have corruption but not as openly as Pakistan, and there private sectors get lots of foreign investment compare to Pakistan.
 

ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Read the history after WW! and the answer is there for all to see, it is a historical fact. why all Pakistanis do not aware of it.
 

ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I didn't say India doesn't have corruption. They also have corruption but not as openly as Pakistan, and there private sectors get lots of foreign investment compare to Pakistan.

India has more corruption than Pakistan but Indian unlike Pakistanis do not talk about it, they take corruption as part of it being India, Pakistanis being Muslims take a different view of it. we are bound by Islam, they are bound by corrupt ways and it is part they accept.
 

ngenius

MPA (400+ posts)
India has more corruption than Pakistan but Indian unlike Pakistanis do not talk about it, they take corruption as part of it being India, Pakistanis being Muslims take a different view of it. we are bound by Islam, they are bound by corrupt ways and it is part they accept.

We don't have to compare ourselves to India. What about Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, Vietnam, Taiwan....etc.



list of countries of the world sorted by received Foreign direct investment (FDI) stock

2010 List by the CIA World Factbook


RankCountryStock of FDI at home
(USD)
Date of
information
World16,360,000,000,0002008 est.
1
23px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png
United States
2,581,000,000,0002010 est.
2
23px-Flag_of_France.svg.png
France
1,207,000,000,0002010 est.
3
23px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png
United Kingdom
1,169,000,000,0002010 est.
4
23px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png
Germany
1,057,000,000,0002010 est.
5
23px-Flag_of_Hong_Kong.svg.png
Hong Kong
962,200,000,0002010 est.
6
23px-Flag_of_Belgium_%28civil%29.svg.png
Belgium
741,700,000,0002010 est.
7
23px-Flag_of_the_Netherlands.svg.png
Netherlands
687,800,000,0002010 est.
8
23px-Flag_of_Spain.svg.png
Spain
668,500,000,0002010 est.
9
23px-Flag_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China.svg.png
China
574,300,000,0002010 est.
10
23px-Flag_of_Canada.svg.png
Canada
528,700,000,0002010 est.
11
16px-Flag_of_Switzerland.svg.png
Switzerland
514,000,000,0002010 est.
12
23px-Flag_of_Italy.svg.png
Italy
405,100,000,0002010 est.
13
22px-Flag_of_Brazil.svg.png
Brazil
349,200,000,0002010 est.
14
23px-Flag_of_Australia.svg.png
Australia
329,100,000,0002010 est.
15
23px-Flag_of_Mexico.svg.png
Mexico
328,400,000,0002010 est.
16
23px-Flag_of_Sweden.svg.png
Sweden
321,400,000,0002010 est.
17
23px-Flag_of_Russia.svg.png
Russia
306,800,000,0002010 est.
18
23px-Flag_of_Singapore.svg.png
Singapore
274,600,000,0002010 est.
19
23px-Flag_of_Ireland.svg.png
Ireland
228,000,000,0002010 est.
20
23px-Flag_of_Saudi_Arabia.svg.png
Saudi Arabia
204,300,000,0002010 est.
21
23px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png
Japan
199,400,000,0002010 est.
22
23px-Flag_of_Poland.svg.png
Poland
198,800,000,0002010 est.
23
23px-Flag_of_India.svg.png
India
191,100,000,0002010 est.
24
23px-Flag_of_Austria.svg.png
Austria
154,000,000,0002010 est.
25
20px-Flag_of_Denmark.svg.png
Denmark
149,600,000,0002010 est.
26
23px-Flag_of_Chile.svg.png
Chile
136,300,000,0002010 est.
27
21px-Flag_of_Norway.svg.png
Norway
132,800,000,0002010 est.
28
23px-Flag_of_the_Czech_Republic.svg.png
Czech Republic
130,400,000,0002010 est.
29
23px-Flag_of_Thailand.svg.png
Thailand
117,900,000,0002010 est.
30
23px-Flag_of_South_Korea.svg.png
South Korea
112,100,000,0002010 est.
31
23px-Flag_of_the_Republic_of_China.svg.png
Taiwan
111,100,000,0002010 est.
32
23px-Flag_of_Portugal.svg.png
Portugal
105,700,000,0002010 est.
33
23px-Flag_of_Trinidad_and_Tobago.svg.png
Trinidad and Tobago
102,000,000,0002008 est.
35
23px-Flag_of_Angola.svg.png
Angola
91,550,000,0002010 est.
36
23px-Flag_of_Finland.svg.png
Finland
87,990,000,0002010 est.
37
23px-Flag_of_Argentina.svg.png
Argentina
86,800,000,0002010 est.
38
23px-Flag_of_Colombia.svg.png
Colombia
84,620,000,0002010 est.
39
23px-Flag_of_Turkey.svg.png
Turkey
84,450,000,0002010 est.
40
23px-Flag_of_Kazakhstan.svg.png
Kazakhstan
83,300,000,0002010 est.
 
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ngenius

MPA (400+ posts)
41
23px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg.png
South Africa
83,080,000,0002010 est.
42
23px-Flag_of_Hungary.svg.png
Hungary
82,070,000,0002010 est.
43
23px-Flag_of_Indonesia.svg.png
Indonesia
81,210,000,0002010 est.
44
23px-Flag_of_Romania.svg.png
Romania
80,160,000,0002010 est.
45
23px-Flag_of_Vietnam.svg.png
Vietnam
77,950,000,0002010 est.
46
23px-Flag_of_Malaysia.svg.png
Malaysia
77,440,000,0002010 est.
47
23px-Flag_of_the_United_Arab_Emirates.svg.png
United Arab Emirates
76,380,000,0002010 est.
48
23px-Flag_of_Egypt.svg.png
Egypt
72,410,000,0002010 est.
49
23px-Flag_of_Nigeria.svg.png
Nigeria
67,230,000,0002010 est.
50
23px-Flag_of_New_Zealand.svg.png
New Zealand
67,180,000,0002010 est.
51
21px-Flag_of_Israel.svg.png
Israel
64,820,000,0002010 est.
52
23px-Flag_of_Ukraine.svg.png
Ukraine
52,310,000,0002010 est.
53
23px-Flag_of_Slovakia.svg.png
Slovakia
52,200,000,0002010 est.
54
23px-Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg.png
Bulgaria
51,280,000,0002010 est.
55
23px-Flag_of_Greece.svg.png
Greece
48,100,000,0002010 est.
56
23px-Flag_of_Peru.svg.png
Peru
43,470,000,0002010 est.
57
23px-Flag_of_Morocco.svg.png
Morocco
42,190,000,0002010 est.
58
23px-Flag_of_Venezuela.svg.png
Venezuela
37,710,000,0002010 est.
59
23px-Flag_of_Croatia.svg.png
Croatia
34,630,000,0002010 est.
60
23px-Flag_of_Tunisia.svg.png
Tunisia
33,560,000,0002010 est.
61
23px-Flag_of_Pakistan.svg.png
Pakistan
30,090,000,0002010 est.
62
23px-Flag_of_Cyprus.svg.png
Cyprus
29,360,000,0002010 est.
63
23px-Flag_of_Qatar.svg.png
Qatar
26,380,000,0002010 est.
64
23px-Flag_of_the_Philippines.svg.png
Philippines
24,500,000,0002010 est.
65
23px-Flag_of_Serbia.svg.png
Serbia
23,520,000,0002009 est.
66
23px-Flag_of_Jordan.svg.png
Jordan
22,190,000,0002010 est.
67
21px-Flag_of_Kosovo.svg.png
Kosovo
21,200,000,0002010 est.
68
23px-Flag_of_the_Dominican_Republic.svg.png
Dominican Republic
19,450,000,0002010 est.
69
23px-Flag_of_Algeria.svg.png
Algeria
19,340,000,0002010 est.