religious extremism must be tackled

[PkRevolution]

And yes about bomb pakistan , i never thought u were such a great follower of rehman malik. did he tell u who was behind them ? was blackwater in pakistan to play cricket ??

Raymond Davis's mobile phone was connected with TTP. We know the whole story.

 

[alimohsan52]

@alimohsan52 !

Ab zyada dur kyun jaate ho.....yeh extreme views wale hazaraat is qadar becheini se bakwas shru kardete hain jab bhi Jawed Ahmed Ghamidi aur Quaid-e-Azam ke he ek aur saathi Ghualm Ahmed Pervaiz ke baray mein koi thread bune. Akhirat ka hawala dekar admin ko blackmail karte hain key yeh thread bund karwao warna azab milega.Apni baat kehne ka haq sabko hai lekin dosre ki raye ka ehteram in hazarat mein hai he nahi.Yeh log tau khud to samajhte hain key Islam ki baatein discuss karna humara exclusive right hai.
Abhi Hassan Nisar ke latest threads per bhi yeh yehi bakwas karrahe thay aur yeh pichle kuch dinoun se horaha hai jab Nisar sahab ke Dunya TV ko diye gaye ek interview per kuch Mullah hazarat ne apni zalalat ka saboot dekar editing ki.

Lets not get sour here,

He has just said Pakistan Zindabad, we need to reason in a very reasonable manner.

 

[MuslimPak]

No one is saying to fight. The issue is that we must raise the voice for truth , so that atleast people know.

I think it is highly extreme to talk about blowing up a Mazaar of the Quaid to make it level with the Ground. Plus I think you should have tolerance that's all. i am not an Islamic scholar, I believe in the Pakistan ideology. I think we should concentrate on making Pakistan an Islamic welfare state. We must show unity and tolerance towards other sects.

 

[MuslimPak]

why did u leave him then ?
if amrika is supporting ttp, why dont ur army ask amrika to stop supporting it and cut its support for them ???

seriously u guys make me sick , u r in europe and must be studying or something and this is all u can think. education reallly is much more than getting degrees only

Raymond Davis's mobile phone was connected with TTP. We know the whole story.

 

[alimohsan52]

May u know, i m one of the supporters of DPC. And it includes those people who u call extremists and dehshatgard. Anyway those guys still say that they will defend pakistan against any attack from outside. But now can u atleast say for once that it is this army which u love has the power to shoot down drones but does not do and openly accepts that drones are good for them. Will u now say it once for me too that it is with army's intelligence help and support that drones are continuing ???

Plz say this about your army also for once atleast also.

I love the army as a symbolic institution of the federation.

However, if any officer is engaging in helping drone attacks through the use of intelligence this is treason.

You may not remember but I called for Military action against MQM, because I feel they are worse, and somebody asked me why the Military did not take any action, I responded by saying that they have worn bangles or "churia"

The army is here to defend the people of Pakistan and the Pakistani Ideology based on the sacred principles and vision of the Quaid and the Allama. They are not here to attack our own people, that is the policy of PTI.

Please join PTI!

 

[MuslimPak]

It was a major general who accepted on media and on few other occasion some high ranking officers accepted this also. This shows that army as an institution is supporting drone attacks. Do you still love this army ?

I love the army as a symbolic institution of the federation.

However, if any officer is engaging in helping drone attacks through the use of intelligence this is treason.

You may not remember but I called for Military action against MQM, because I feel they are worse, and somebody asked me why the Military did not take any action, I responded by saying that they have worn bangles or "churia"

The army is here to defend the people of Pakistan and the Pakistani Ideology based on the sacred principles and vision of the Quaid and the Allama. They are not here to attack our own people, that is the policy of PTI.

Please join PTI!

 

[alimohsan52]

It was a major general who accepted on media and on few other occasion some high ranking officers accepted this also. This shows that army as an institution is supporting drone attacks. Do you still love this army ?

I am totally against the Armed forces supporting drone attacks, that is also the policy of PTI. Our party is the only party which has stood up against this. Look at the wikileaks our leader stood up to the Americans.

The real responsibility lies with the politicians like Zardari who lick up to foreign powers.

 

[MuslimPak]

I m sorry to say but we differ not only on one axis but on multiple axis of ideology. I wish u success in what u want to do if u really want prosperity for pakistan. But for once do not call who are fighting in syria dehshat gard and think what they r going through. nationalism is the plague which makes u insensitive to these issues just because u r thinking only your border is what u r responsible for.

Allah Hafiz , see you on some other thread :)

I am totally against the Armed forces supporting drone attacks, that is also the policy of PTI. Our party is the only party which has stood up against this. Look at the wikileaks our leader stood up to the Americans.

The real responsibility lies with the politicians like Zardari who lick up to foreign powers.

 

[alimohsan52]

I m sorry to say but we differ not only on one axis but on multiple axis of ideology. I wish u success in what u want to do if u really want prosperity for pakistan. But for once do not call who are fighting in syria dehshat gard and think what they r going through. nationalism is the plague which makes u insensitive to these issues just because u r thinking only your border is what u r responsible for.

Allah Hafiz , see you on some other thread :)

What is your opinion on the Pakistani National anthem?

Please can you say the anthem before you go?

 

[hans]

Sir jee are you Muslim? or just making fun of what we are?

thread starter is a perfect example of what i mean when i call someone a " Jinnah worshipper "

 

[MuslimPak]

What is your opinion on the Pakistani National anthem?

Please can you say the anthem before you go?

 

[aq.inqalabi]

@alimohsan52 bhai, it is very nice to see the way u r talking gracefully with @MuslimPak bhai and also @MuslimPak bhai giving his own

thoughts​

very gracefully ........

@alimohsan52 i hope in future u will show the same grace with ur political opponents also! ​

 

[tz00007]

What is the aim of Mullah???? fee sabilillah fasaad....

 

[Desi_Action]

ملا ازم ایک لعنت ہے ۔ یہ ایک سرٹیفکیت ہے کہ ایک خاص قسم کا حلیہ بنا کر جس مرضی کو کافر قرار دے دو۔ اور صرف اپنا ایک خاص قسم کا مذہب سب پر لادو۔ اب آپ ہی دیکھو اس موصوف کو ایڈمن نے کھلی چھٹی دی ہوئی ہے کہ جو مرضی کہتے پھریں۔
یہ لوگ خاص قسم کا حلیہ بنا کر بہروپیے کا کردار ادا کر رہے ہیں۔ ​

 

[alimohsan52]

My Dear Brother,

Let go of this extremism, lets get together under the Pakistani National anthem and lets sing the national anthem together:

​

 

[zeshaan]

Kia inkoo koi saheeh aoor sachaa rasta dikhanay wala naheen milaa ?
Mulk koo iss nehaj par puhnchay main inkaa bhee hissaa hay.Yeh kala jhandaa kiss baat kee nishandehi karta hay, BHAIOO.

 

[zeshaan]

"Mazaar of Hazarat Quaid E Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah R.A. would be blown up to make the grave of the Quaid level with the ground."

Pure foolishness of these kinde of peoples.

 

[SalmanKhanN]

You being a supporter of Imran Khan and i cant believe of making a a big deal out of someone said earlier.. he simply said that according to what he believes in Quran and Sunnah. by law he would be against the MIZAR made by humans of Muhammad Ali Jinnah.. and you acting like someone who is immature are spreading hatred against that person on simply what he believes.. I feel you are an extremists and childish.. Maybe you belong to a certain sect and want to spread hatred against MuslimPak beliefs.. Shame on you

I am doing this thread because earlier today on a separate thread a member called @MuslimPak mentioned to me that the Mazaar of Hazarat Quaid E Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah R.A. would be blown up to make the grave of the Quaid level with the ground. I am in a complete state of shock for people that hold such extremist views for the founder of the nation.

I feel Siasat.pk has a role to play not to facilitate such extremist views which are detrimental to our national interests and have a sectarian side and only seek to cause disharmony amongst us.

Moreover, there was a complete lack of sympathy and tolerance towards other sects. I really feel we must tackle such people that are using this forum to voice their barbaric views.

 

[MuslimPak]

I think this kind of extremism is the trademark of these pti trolls and nationalists. They will call u terrorist, extremist and a dehshatgard just for going against their beliefs and even when you quote hadith , they will smoothly shift to , " lets be moderate", this time clearly calling hadith and quran to be ( Nauzubillah) extreme. These guys are just stuck in their specific direction. An average neutral reader can easily see in this discussion how he is constantly just pushing me to accept his ideology , unexpectedly with cushy words ( may be bcz he wants me to join pti, Wallah u Alam) and did not argue once on a certain level continuously in more than a few posts. Jumped from one topic to other and constantly tried to prove me an extremist just because i believed in those Ahadith.

You being a supporter of Imran Khan and i cant believe of making a a big deal out of someone said earlier.. he simply said that according to what he believes in Quran and Sunnah. by law he would be against the MIZAR made by humans of Muhammad Ali Jinnah.. and you acting like someone who is immature are spreading hatred against that person on simply what he believes.. I feel you are an extremists and childish.. Maybe you belong to a certain sect and want to spread hatred against MuslimPak beliefs.. Shame on you

 

[aq.inqalabi]

@MuslimPak

bhai , plzzzzzzzzz see this ​

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQUNcc6L_xU

v already hv lots of issues in our ummah these days , should the issue of blowing these mazars be in our top priority? for god sake thr r hundreds of more important tasks needed to be done before tht or only blowing up the mazars is the only solution to all the problems of todays ............... i really request u to see this youtube video n think rationally ...........

i m personally against these mazars worshiping but definitely wont support u in this stupid and dumb mentality of blowing them up, 1st try to convince the majority with "daleel" n thn hv the "ijma" of ulema of all sects and then proceed, it is the only way out otherwise keep imposing and killing your own brothers