There is nothing wrong in this prose because the poet is using the word if. And why not that if Allah had wills then this miracle could also have been done by the Last Messenger peace be upon him.
Qasida Burda sharif and Importance of Durood Sharif
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There is nothing wrong in this prose because the poet is using the word if. And why not that if Allah had wills then this miracle could also have been done by the Last Messenger peace be upon him.
Pakistani1947
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Please try to avoid quoting Hadeeths outside Sihah Sitta and also try first to find support from Qur'aan, if available.
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I will love to post every Sahih Hadees I can. May Allah punish all those who r stopping people from posting Sahih Hadees. Prove that this isnt Sahih Hadees otherwise mind your own business.
Anas b. malik reported
Allah's Messenger (صلى الله عليه وسلم) as saying: I came. And in the narration transmitted on the authority of Haddib (the words are): I happened to pass by Moses (عليه السلام) on the occasion of the Night journey near the red mound (and found him) saying his prayer in his Grave. [Sahih Muslim]
Allah's Messenger (صلى الله عليه وسلم) as saying: I came. And in the narration transmitted on the authority of Haddib (the words are): I happened to pass by Moses (عليه السلام) on the occasion of the Night journey near the red mound (and found him) saying his prayer in his Grave. [Sahih Muslim]
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[FONT=verdana,geneva]The Apostle of Allah (صلى الله عليه وسلم) said: Among the most excellent of your days is Friday; so invoke many blessings on me that day, for your blessing will be submitted to me. They (the Companions) asked: Apostle of Allah, how can our blessing be submitted to you, when your body is decayed? He said: Allah has prohibited the earth from consuming the bodies of the Prophets. [Sunan Ibn Maja Volume 001: Hadith Number 1626:] [/FONT]
[FONT=verdana,geneva]The Apostle of Allah (صلى الله عليه وسلم) said: Among the most excellent of your days is Friday; so invoke many blessings on me that day, for your blessing will be submitted to me. They (the Companions) asked: Apostle of Allah, how can our blessing be submitted to you, when your body is decayed? He said: Allah has prohibited the earth from consuming the bodies of the Prophets. [Sunan Ibn Maja Volume 001: Hadith Number 1626:] [/FONT]
[FONT=verdana,geneva]Ibn Taymiyyah: "The proof of dead awareness comes from two Sahih Books of Bukhari and Muslim in which Rasool Allah (صلى الله عليه وسلم) said that when people have buried a dead person and leave for home, the dead can hear the thumps of sandaled feet of those who leave." [Majmuaat-al-Fatawa by Ibne Taymiyyah, Volume 24: Page No. 362][/FONT]
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[FONT=verdana,geneva]Ibn Taymiyah: 'A group of people heard the answer of their salaam. And, in the days of Harrah, Sa'id ibn al- Musayyib heard the voice of our Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) saying the adhan, from the grave. And there are more events like these and they are all true. [Ibn Taymiyya, Iqtidah Siratul-Mustakeem, Page No. 373] [/FONT]
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Ibn Qayyim writes:"Our Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) has said that on Fridays send as many blessings as you can on me.From wherever you sends blessings to me, your voice will reach me.The Companions enquired, 'Even after your death?' Our 'Prophet, (صلى الله عليه وسلم) replied in the affirmative. This is because Allah Most High has made the bodies of the Prophets haram [forbidden] for the earth to eat" [Ibn Qayyim, Jala ul Afham, Page No. 63]
It is narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira that the Messenger of Allah (صلى الله عليه وسلم) said: I found myself in Hijr and the Quraish were asking me about my might journey. I was asked about things pertaining to Bait-ul-Maqdis which I could not preserve (in my mind). I was very much vexed, so vexed as I had never been before. Then Allah raised it (Bait-ul-Maqdis) before my eyes. I looked towards it, and I gave them the information about whatever they questioned me I also saw myself among the group of apostles. I saw Moses (عليه السلام) saying prayer and found him to be a well-built man as if he was a man of the tribe of Shanu'a. I saw Jesus son of Mary (عليه السلام) offering prayer, of all of men he had the closest resemblance with 'Urwa b. Masu'd al-Thaqafi. I saw Ibrahim (عليه السلام) offering prayer; he had the closest resemblance with your companion (the Prophet himself) amongst people. When the time of prayer came I led them. When I completed the prayer, someone said: Here is Malik, the keeper of the Hell; pay him salutations. I turned to him, but he preceded me in salutation. [Sahih Muslim Book 001, Number 0328:]
I cannot understand why some people have so much bughz againts Muhammad s.a.w that they cannot tolerate any thing which praises the Holy prophet s.a.w................even to the extent some extremist khawarij are rejecting Qasida Burda sharif which is well accepted and acknowledged by every sect other than wahabies who have their own petro agenda.
If I had posted a song in which a lover is praising his beloved girl than all these so called extremist Mullas would have really enjoyed it but if some one praises Mohammad s.a.w they try to create confusion.
same is the case is with Hazrat Ali r.a, and to distinguish between a munafiq and a munin its a tested fact that a momin will feal hapiness when Ali r.a is praised but a munafiq will show his bughz.
Drood shareef parhtey raho shayad dil naram ho jain.
If I had posted a song in which a lover is praising his beloved girl than all these so called extremist Mullas would have really enjoyed it but if some one praises Mohammad s.a.w they try to create confusion.
same is the case is with Hazrat Ali r.a, and to distinguish between a munafiq and a munin its a tested fact that a momin will feal hapiness when Ali r.a is praised but a munafiq will show his bughz.
Drood shareef parhtey raho shayad dil naram ho jain.
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What would you say about someone who has rejected more than 300-390 ahadyt of bukhari sharif ????????????
I think Mr. Saudi1947 would know Mr Tamia. if not than he should ask Mr. Tamia where did he got this (sihah e sitta or out of sihah e sitta)
If someone can, please summarize, what is being discussed here, topic is
something else and discussion is going on without any substance or
objective. It is just full of copy n paste.
"The status of Prophet(Pbuh) is already established in Quran, wherein there
is no doubt, no question-mark, everyone who accepts him as Rasool & Nabi
recites Salaat on him", so what is being discussed here without any head or
tail.???
something else and discussion is going on without any substance or
objective. It is just full of copy n paste.
"The status of Prophet(Pbuh) is already established in Quran, wherein there
is no doubt, no question-mark, everyone who accepts him as Rasool & Nabi
recites Salaat on him", so what is being discussed here without any head or
tail.???
Well we r replying to some one who has been in line for some time. You need to seek an appointment to get some air time for debating.
Dont act like a loser. I just remembered to inquire from you if you some how managed to find the details of namaz from Quran. I am still eager to learn from you and become a Muslim like you. Wont you help me.
Why i am a loser? Perhaps, on your part, a little bit consistency, self-orientation, clarity, brevity
and to-the-point writings in discussion could have made some difference. Anyhow good
luck with your oft-repeated and only cut-n-paste approach without any objectivity.
Pakistani1947
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
What Quraan say about hearing of dead
The basic rule of Shriat is follow Quraan and Hadeeth.
[Surah an-Naml 27:80]
إِنَّكَ لَا تُسْمِعُ الْمَوْتَىٰ وَلَا تُسْمِعُ الصُّمَّ الدُّعَاءَ إِذَا وَلَّوْا مُدْبِرِينَ
[Surah Fatir 35:22]
The basic rule of Shriat is follow Quraan and Hadeeth.
[Surah an-Naml 27:80]
إِنَّكَ لَا تُسْمِعُ الْمَوْتَىٰ وَلَا تُسْمِعُ الصُّمَّ الدُّعَاءَ إِذَا وَلَّوْا مُدْبِرِينَ
Yusuf Ali 80: Truly thou canst not cause the dead to listen, nor canst thou cause the deaf to hear the call, (especially) when they turn back in retreat.
البتہ تو مردوں کو نہیں سنا سکتا اور نہ بہروں کو اپنی پکارسنا سکتا ہے جب وہ پیٹھ پھیر کر لوٹیں
[Surah Fatir 35:22]
وَمَا يَسْتَوِي الْأَحْيَاءُ وَلَا الْأَمْوَاتُ ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُسْمِعُ مَن يَشَاءُ ۖ وَمَا أَنتَ بِمُسْمِعٍ مَّن فِي الْقُبُورِ
Yusuf Ali 22: Nor are alike those that are living and those that are dead. Allah can make any that He wills to hear; but thou canst not make those to hear who are (buried) in graves.
اور زندے اور مردے برابر نہیں ہیں بے شک الله سناتا ہے جسے چاہے اور آپ انہیں سنانے والے نہیں جو قبروں میں ہیں
The verses in the Qur'aan mean that the dead can't hear us literally, and that they are the rule and the other incidents are the exception.
Ibn taymiyyah believed that the dead can hear us but it does'nt prove you can do tawassul with the dead (sorry to the bida lovers). If you follow that opinion (ibn taymiyyah etc) then maximum you can conclude that dead can hear us. In order to be allowed to ask any Prophet or Saint to make du'aa for us after his death, we need proof that indicates Prophet Muhammad pbuh told us to do that, or indicates that the Sahabah did it etc etc. The fact that the dead hear us is not sufficient as a proof for this type of tawassul.
Ibn taymiyyah believed that the dead can hear us but it does'nt prove you can do tawassul with the dead (sorry to the bida lovers). If you follow that opinion (ibn taymiyyah etc) then maximum you can conclude that dead can hear us. In order to be allowed to ask any Prophet or Saint to make du'aa for us after his death, we need proof that indicates Prophet Muhammad pbuh told us to do that, or indicates that the Sahabah did it etc etc. The fact that the dead hear us is not sufficient as a proof for this type of tawassul.
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Dear all participating members, I am happy to announce a decision soon will be announced by team to all in general.
Since siasat.pk is a siasat base website, we are not suppose to permit religious thread in our forum ,but on the contrary despite our several reminders our friends stubbornly keep posted religion base threads, which further converts into sectarian debate, which finally leads to either close or delete. Once team did their job in order to keep forum quite and peaceful, our stubborn members start humiliating team for bias behavior, etc etc....recently one of our member started a thread on same basis, which actually challenge the team to respond their allegations or accept them self as being controversial Moderators. How ever it was a great challenge, which actually lead team toward a great session of "brain storm" This session was very fruitful for team because it made team to think how we can keep a standard of equality without making feel a single member annoyed, I believe no could believe that we could come to a conclusion, which could deliver a positive result.
It is really exiting to keep all Pakistanis under one flag of Pakistan without spreading any sectarian violence, do you all need to know how,
For that you all have to wait for "TEAM" thread in this regard, which will include all rules and regulation......
Initially I am advising you, all Islamic thread will be closed with immediate effect till we will bring out the new guidelines in this regard.
We once again thank to all of our members for their positive contribution to forum.
Since siasat.pk is a siasat base website, we are not suppose to permit religious thread in our forum ,but on the contrary despite our several reminders our friends stubbornly keep posted religion base threads, which further converts into sectarian debate, which finally leads to either close or delete. Once team did their job in order to keep forum quite and peaceful, our stubborn members start humiliating team for bias behavior, etc etc....recently one of our member started a thread on same basis, which actually challenge the team to respond their allegations or accept them self as being controversial Moderators. How ever it was a great challenge, which actually lead team toward a great session of "brain storm" This session was very fruitful for team because it made team to think how we can keep a standard of equality without making feel a single member annoyed, I believe no could believe that we could come to a conclusion, which could deliver a positive result.
It is really exiting to keep all Pakistanis under one flag of Pakistan without spreading any sectarian violence, do you all need to know how,
For that you all have to wait for "TEAM" thread in this regard, which will include all rules and regulation......
Initially I am advising you, all Islamic thread will be closed with immediate effect till we will bring out the new guidelines in this regard.
We once again thank to all of our members for their positive contribution to forum.
