PML(N) and PTI Mid-Term Report Cards

Zulfi Khan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
PTI is the best in order of Performance while PML(N) and PPP are number one
in eating up Bank Loans and Govt Taxes.

Abu Jahal died as a Non-Muslim while Abu Safiyan became Muslim at the time of
Conquest of Makkah.

Imran Khan is unique in his leadership - never killed any one, never ate up any
Bank Loan like the leaders of PML(N) and PPP.
 

Uxi Ali

MPA (400+ posts)
PMLN Promises:

1: Will reduce terrorism, negotiate with Taliban and do operation where needed: 1
2: Improve economy, reduce inflation, privatize SOEs: (-0.5, look at the state of steel mill and PIA, and also acknowledge the report from world bank that have the least developing percentile of only 4.4%)
3: Peace in Karachi and Balochistan: 1
4: Reduce debts: -1
6: End/Reduce load-shedding in 2-3 years: 0 because look at the circular debt of 630 billion, that to increased in just 1 year!!!
7: Infrastructure in smaller cities/Bullet trains etc: 0.5 (kindly give some examples, i cant see no bullet train running around here!)

Total: 1/7

PTI promises:

1: Conduct local body elections: 1
2: Open governor houses etc: 1
3: End terrorism in 90 days: 0.5 (better than ANP govt but still too little)
4: End corruption in 30 days: 0.5 (QWP is in govt. now :) , do not forget the powerful Ehtisaab commision)
5: Will never lie to people: -1 (35 punctures was a 'political' statement:IK)
6: Will build 250 dams: 0.5 because 356 hydal power plants are already approved and around 10 are already completed!!
7: Will conduct elections in Police: 0 (this is just utter crappy nonsense!)
7: Will concentrate on education and health more than anything!! : 0.5 because the health sector is still not much improved, but the education sector is!

Total: 3/7

sorry but thats the truth my friend.. do not fall for the shenanigans PMLN is playing.. we even forgot the withholding tax and the 14% tax on internet use, which is again again bullcrap!!
 

Theekra

Senator (1k+ posts)
sorry but thats the truth my friend.. do not fall for the shenanigans PMLN is playing.. we even forgot the withholding tax and the 14% tax on internet use, which is again again bullcrap!!

I can only laugh :) I won't say much as you are well-entrenched in PTI's bull$hit. Just a quote about power generation: Certainly, the KP govt. is apparently unaware of the 10 Hydal projects, according to their website and all their Social Media forums. But I am sure you'll provide me with the list of these 356 plants' locations :) Read below:

دو پاور پراجکٹس( رونالی اور مچای:کل پیداوار۔19 میگاواٹ)کے پی حکومت کی ویب سایٹ کے مطابق جون 2015 میں مکمل ہونے تھے ابھی آن گوینگ ہیں- بہرحال ابھی تک ایک میگا واٹ نیا نہیں آیا

حکومتی ویب سایٹ کے مطابق جتنے پراجکٹ آپریشنل ہیں وہ سب اے این پی کے دور میں شروع کئے گئے
 

arafay

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Score k pata nahein lekin PTI k jo jootay paray hein, un mein se outstanding kuch u hein:

D-chowk mein karaey k dharna 75 littar
Haripur mein Reham Khan aur Jhoot Khan k dhullaee: 12 littar
NA122 mein taza taza, garam garam pitaee: 13 littar

PTI puray 100 littar aur ab ganday khanay k baari aanay wali ha.

none of them were promised in 2013 elections

talwar gujjar score = 0/3
 

Sphere Manisfest

Senator (1k+ posts)
My score card: (Not based on election promises, but performance)

PMLN
Reduction in terrorism = 1
Reduction in petrol prices = 1
Metro Bus = 1
Pak China Economic Corridor = 1
Karachi operation = 1
Model Town Killing = -1
Load shedding = -1
High inflation = -1
Rape cases = -1
Peoples suiciding = -1
Rana Mashood corruption = -1
Nandi Pur = -1
Euro Bond = -1
Debts & Borrowing = -1
Ishaq Dar Dubai business = -1
Youtube still banned = -1
Dengue outbreak = -1
Health & Hospital conditions = -1
Schools & Education conditions = -1
Score = ?

PTI

Police reforms = 1
Right of Information Act = 1
Eradicating corruption = 1
Education initiatives = 1
IT initiatives = 1
Rest Houses = 1
Inclusion of Ch. Sarwar = 1
Growing influence of Shah Mehmood Q and JKT = -1
Legal battle against rigging = -1
Intra-Party reforms = -1
350 small dams = -1
KPK Tourism infrastructure development = -1
Intra-Party conflicts (Justice Wajih report) = -1

Score = ?
 

arafay

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
PMLn score

1: Producing electricity = 0.1
2: Police reforms = 0
3: Accountability = 0
4: Transparency = 0.1
5: infra structure development = 1
6: making institutions = 0
7: Good governance = 0.2

Total score = 2.4 / 7

PTI score:

1: Producing electricity = 0.2
2: Police reforms = 1
3: Accountability = 1
4: Transparency = 1
5: infra structure development = 0.1
6: making institutions = 1
7: Good governance = 0.2

Total score = 4.5 / 7

So PTI scores double than PMLn , despite the fact that it is their first time in government.

I dont know what is your scoring criteria but how can good governance be anything more than 0. in just 2.5 years there has been

model town massacre
nandi pur scam
solar park scam
petrol shortage for first time in history of pakistan
dengue virus
record high crime rate (kidnapping, rape, street crimes)
 

arafay

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
My score card: (Not based on election promises, but performance)

PMLN
Reduction in terrorism = 1
Reduction in petrol prices = 1
Metro Bus = 1
Pak China Economic Corridor = 1
Karachi operation = 1
Model Town Killing = -1
Load shedding = -1
High inflation = -1
Rape cases = -1
Peoples suiciding = -1
Rana Mashood corruption = -1
Nandi Pur = -1
Euro Bond = -1
Debts & Borrowing = -1
Ishaq Dar Dubai business = -1
Youtube still banned = -1
Dengue outbreak = -1
Health & Hospital conditions = -1
Schools & Education conditions = -1
Score = ?

PTI

Police reforms = 1
Right of Information Act = 1
Eradicating corruption = 1
Education initiatives = 1
IT initiatives = 1
Rest Houses = 1
Inclusion of Ch. Sarwar = 1
Growing influence of Shah Mehmood Q and JKT = -1
Legal battle against rigging = -1
Intra-Party reforms = -1
350 small dams = -1
KPK Tourism infrastructure development = -1
Intra-Party conflicts (Justice Wajih report) = -1

Score = ?

the problem is that everyone will have their own criteria to gauge performance. Therefore, i selected a criteria these parties set for themselves. All promises that listed in my post were made by Pmln leaders and IK in 2013 so nobody can argue about me being bias. Even in this thread all noonies are either speechless or doing notanki instead of facing up to the lies their leaders told them.
 

Uxi Ali

MPA (400+ posts)
I can only laugh :) I won't say much as you are well-entrenched in PTI's bull$hit. Just a quote about power generation: Certainly, the KP govt. is apparently unaware of the 10 Hydal projects, according to their website and all their Social Media forums. But I am sure you'll provide me with the list of these 356 plants' locations :) Read below:

دو پاور پراجکٹس( رونالی اور مچای:کل پیداوار۔19 میگاواٹ)کے پی حکومت کی ویب سایٹ کے مطابق جون 2015 میں مکمل ہونے تھے ابھی آن گوینگ ہیں- بہرحال ابھی تک ایک میگا واٹ نیا نہیں آیا

حکومتی ویب سایٹ کے مطابق جتنے پراجکٹ آپریشنل ہیں وہ سب اے این پی کے دور میں شروع کئے گئے

meri jan aap kuch bhi na karo, aur simply Imran Khan k facebook pe official page pe chalay jao.. Aaj hi construction ki images post hui hain Chitraal k micro hydal dams ki.. shauq poora kar lijye..

aur Neelum Jhelum project ki bhi maa behan aik kar di aap logo ne?? Mian sb k saath tasveer kab utarwa rhe ho phir?

suna hai budget 200 se 400 billion kar dia hai?? Kuch sharam... Kuch haya... nhi? link:
http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?389073-Neelum-Jehlum-Cost-increased-from-274-Billion-to-414-Billion
 

Theekra

Senator (1k+ posts)
meri jan aap kuch bhi na karo, aur simply Imran Khan k facebook pe official page pe chalay jao.. Aaj hi construction ki images post hui hain Chitraal k micro hydal dams ki.. shauq poora kar lijye..

Please tell me the names of 10 Hydal Projects that are already complete and are producing power?
 

sohnidhartie

Minister (2k+ posts)
Theory or practical mein fark huta h Pappu Burger

Theory damag mein huti h ya lafafa media/social media ki zaban par. Practical zameen par nazar ata h.

Chor report card ko, koi aik cheez dekha KPK mein jo Pasha Party ny ki or zameen par dekhti hu

Theory dimag mein hoti hey jo patwari mein nae hota.
 

Uxi Ali

MPA (400+ posts)
Please tell me the names of 10 Hydal Projects that are already complete and are producing power?

Please have a look at this report..
http://www.scribd.com/doc/281564791/KP-MHPs-Progress-Report-Aug-2015

you can read on the fourth page that 15 sites were to be completed by August,2015. However, due to weather constraints and lack of access, they are not yet completed. However, this is around 2 month old report and I am quite sure that they are completed by now.

Also, you must not forget that 4 micro hydal projects are definitely completed and once was even reported in the new and one was officially inaugurated by Khan a couple of months back.. do not worry, I will keep an eye on the new report and will share with you asap!!
 

Theekra

Senator (1k+ posts)
Please have a look at this report..
http://www.scribd.com/doc/281564791/KP-MHPs-Progress-Report-Aug-2015

you can read on the fourth page that 15 sites were to be completed by August,2015. However, due to weather constraints and lack of access, they are not yet completed. However, this is around 2 month old report and I am quite sure that they are completed by now.

Also, you must not forget that 4 micro hydal projects are definitely completed and once was even reported in the new and one was officially inaugurated by Khan a couple of months back.. do not worry, I will keep an eye on the new report and will share with you asap!!


So first it was 10 and now 4 or 2 or maybe none. I have looked at this report, and other PTI websites like this also claimed some projects will be complete by March 2015, yet not a single MW has been added yet, and claims about future are as unreliable as Nandipur. That is the ground truth.

BTW, just to give you more shocking news, if 55 these Hydal 'projects' are completed, their combined power output is 6.7MW. That is mentioned in this document as well. So far, not a SINGLE ONE is complete, but imagine how many years will it take to build 55, just for 6.7 Mega Watts!

On the other hand, QA Solar Power Plant in Punjab produces minimum 18MW and maximum 80MW, and it was complete and ONLINE about 9 months ago. I am not a big fan of solar because they are expensive but this 'dams' project is much worse.

 

Saad Saadi

Minister (2k+ posts)
So first it was 10 and now 4 or 2 or maybe none. I have looked at this report, and other PTI websites like this also claimed some projects will be complete by March 2015, yet not a single MW has been added yet, and claims about future are as unreliable as Nandipur. That is the ground truth.

BTW, just to give you more shocking news, if 55 these Hydal 'projects' are completed, their combined power output is 6.7MW. That is mentioned in this document as well. So far, not a SINGLE ONE is complete, but imagine how many years will it take to build 55, just for 6.7 Mega Watts!

On the other hand, QA Solar Power Plant in Punjab produces minimum 18MW and maximum 80MW, and it was complete and ONLINE about 9 months ago. I am not a big fan of solar because they are expensive but this 'dams' project is much worse.

kpk k pass already bijli surplus hai yeh to Punjabi kha jate hin
 

Uxi Ali

MPA (400+ posts)
So first it was 10 and now 4 or 2 or maybe none. I have looked at this report, and other PTI websites like this also claimed some projects will be complete by March 2015, yet not a single MW has been added yet, and claims about future are as unreliable as Nandipur. That is the ground truth.

BTW, just to give you more shocking news, if 55 these Hydal 'projects' are completed, their combined power output is 6.7MW. That is mentioned in this document as well. So far, not a SINGLE ONE is complete, but imagine how many years will it take to build 55, just for 6.7 Mega Watts!

On the other hand, QA Solar Power Plant in Punjab produces minimum 18MW and maximum 80MW, and it was complete and ONLINE about 9 months ago. I am not a big fan of solar because they are expensive but this 'dams' project is much worse.


ahem ahem.. please have a look:http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthre...wer-Project-completed-and-tested-successfully

To ab main aap ko kya bol sakta hun... I told u that there were 15 dams to be completed in Aug 2015, but got delayed due to weather issues.. now you can see a completed Micro Hydal PP.. Again, I have seen video of another project that was completed a few months back (there were 4 completed at the same time), and one was officially inaugurated by Khan...

The cost of of your beloved Quaid Solar park is around 18 billion Rupees and its generating and average 18MW, while costing around 10 rupees per unit.. The MHP project will cost 5.5 Billion Rupees and will generate 9MW+ energy and costs 2 rupees per unit.. now my dear friend do the math!! also, please do note that I claimed 10 in light of the previous information, but now as the report is generated, we can see that at least 6 are completed, 4 previously, 1 inaugurated by Khan and the 1 mentioned above. Hopefully, you will understand that KPK is on the right track!
 

Theekra

Senator (1k+ posts)
ahem ahem.. please have a look:http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthre...wer-Project-completed-and-tested-successfully

To ab main aap ko kya bol sakta hun... I told u that there were 15 dams to be completed in Aug 2015, but got delayed due to weather issues.. now you can see a completed Micro Hydal PP.. Again, I have seen video of another project that was completed a few months back (there were 4 completed at the same time), and one was officially inaugurated by Khan...

The cost of of your beloved Quaid Solar park is around 18 billion Rupees and its generating and average 18MW, while costing around 10 rupees per unit.. The MHP project will cost 5.5 Billion Rupees and will generate 9MW+ energy and costs 2 rupees per unit.. now my dear friend do the math!! also, please do note that I claimed 10 in light of the previous information, but now as the report is generated, we can see that at least 6 are completed, 4 previously, 1 inaugurated by Khan and the 1 mentioned above. Hopefully, you will understand that KPK is on the right track!

Well first of all, don't keep coming back to this thread after 10 years if a motor turbine starts after 10 years. Our discussion was about what was complete.

Second, are you literate?

Do you know how much 150KW is? In Punjab, you can buy a commercial 150KW generator for 1lac rupees. It can run a few houses, that's it :)

The 9MW+ generation will take all these 250 such 'dams' to complete. 2.5 years for first project to start, you can imagine how much will 250 projects take.

On the other hand, QA Solar power produced 18-80MW electricity last year during summer season.