Please stopping using word Lawatat.

[M Ali Khan]

We seriously need good education. The narrator of the hadith just said Qom-e-luut wala amal. Someone (and you research who that someone was) translated it to Luatat in Urdu and even this person put it in brackets. Are you this thick - No wonder we are in such state of degeneracy.

P.S: STOP WATCHING YOUTUBE VIDEOS - READ, READ CAREFULLY, READ CRITICALLY AND USE THE BRAIN ALLAH HAS GIVEN YOU.

again, I am DIRECTLY QUOTING a widely published Urdu translation of Jamia Tirmzi and have listed the source.

If you got a problem with that, take it up with the narrators, compilers, translators, publishers etc.

If the word is used in various shapes of forms in Hadith literature, who are ANY of us to squirm "haw haye! haw haye!"

 

[M Ali Khan]

thanks to Allah, tht Imran khan has made Arabic compulsory again, (atlst in KPK n Punjab).. so our nxt generation can learn thr religion without th hlp of any molvi or juhala lik ths guys...

عمران خان خود تو عصمت دری پر خود عورتوں کو ہی انکی عصمت دری کا ذمہ دار قرار دیتا ہے جبکہ اس نے اب ان بدکار لونڈے باز مولویوں کو یہ ذمہ داری بھی دے دی ہے کہ وہ اسکولوں کی کتابوں کو چیک کرکے بتائیں گے کہ کیا حلال ہے اور کیا حرام

 

[Citizen X]

u dont make sense bro...
the thing u r saying has nothing to do with what the thrd statr has said

What the hell did you just write, English or Urdu please, what is all this u r 2 4 tht abt thrd statr etc etc non-sense ?

How old are you that you write like this?

 

[Citizen X]

again, I am DIRECTLY QUOTING a widely published Urdu translation of Jamia Tirmzi and have listed the source.

If you got a problem with that, take it up with the narrators, compilers, translators, publishers etc.

If the word is used in various shapes of forms in Hadith literature, who are ANY of us to squirm "haw haye! haw haye!"

That is the hypocrisy of our nation, just waiting to get offended at the smallest thing and putting up this huge facade of piety and morality jub ke sub se ziyda porn Pakistan mein dekha jata hai, lounday baazi se mulk ka kouna kouna tapak raha hai, jhoot fraud, chori aur corruption har insaan ki khoon mein basa huwa hai.

But oh no, will get offended at the smallest thing. No wonder dungars like Khadim Rizvi have such a big following here.

 

[Rambler]

thanks to Allah, tht Imran khan has made Arabic compulsory again, (atlst in KPK n Punjab).. so our nxt generation can learn thr religion without th hlp of any molvi or juhala lik ths guys...

Yes that is a very good step in the right direction.

 

[jani1]

What the hell did you just write, English or Urdu please, what is all this u r 2 4 tht abt thrd statr etc etc non-sense ?

How old are you that you write like this?

bro...is it som kind of nglish exam ? n u r n english teacher ?
or ...u simply do not wana rply to my simple sentence...

the thing u r saying has nothing to do with what the thrd statr has said

 

[Citizen X]

bro...is it som kind of nglish exam ? n u r n english teacher ?
or ...u simply do not wana rply to my simple sentence...

Sorry I prefer to converse with adults and not 6 year old children, I'm guessing you are 6 years old because you write like one.

 

[jani1]

عمران خان خود تو عصمت دری پر خود عورتوں کو ہی انکی عصمت دری کا ذمہ دار قرار دیتا ہے جبکہ اس نے اب ان بدکار لونڈے باز مولویوں کو یہ ذمہ داری بھی دے دی ہے کہ وہ اسکولوں کی کتابوں کو چیک کرکے بتائیں گے کہ کیا حلال ہے اور کیا حرام

اچھا؟

یعنی تم چاہتے ہو کہ قوم کے بچے مولویوں کے محتاج رہیں، اور اسکولوں میں ہی قرآن نہ سیکھیں۔؟۔

شوہ گیری کی انتہا۔۔۔

بچے اگر اسکولوں میں ہی اپنا دین سیکھ جائیں گے تو مولویوں کی دکانیں بند ہونگی یا نہیں ؟

 

[Tit4Tat]

thanks to Allah, tht Imran khan has made Arabic compulsory again, (atlst in KPK n Punjab).. so our nxt generation can learn thr religion without th hlp of any molvi or juhala lik ths guys...

any examples from past when learning arabic lead to better understanding of Islam or from present? Quran's arabic is very much different from common spoken arabic of today....so which arabic will be taught and by whom and by what system?
pls stop falling for bongees

 

[jani1]

any examples from past when learning arabic lead to better understanding of Islam or from present? Quran's arabic is very much different from common spoken arabic of today....so which arabic will be taught and by whom and by what system?

Quranic arabic I m talking about..

 

[Rambler]

any examples from past when learning arabic lead to better understanding of Islam or from present? Quran's arabic is very much different from common spoken arabic of today....so which arabic will be taught and by whom and by what system?
pls stop falling for bongees

You got me there Tit !

 

[HimSar]

Here comes another one. How does 'Jo amal kre QOM e lut ka sa' translate into luatat. Can you translate 'Amal of Qom-e-Ibraheem' to Ibraheemi for fire worshippers?. Amazing its just amazing.

Nah, why stop? Gonna call them moosites doing moosaiyat with Palestinians ie usurping their rights.
Besides, names are such non-issues, waste of time that the West completely ignored it until they became developed countries. Only then, did they start focusing on getting the terminology right eg wrt niggers, retards, abo, etc.
We'll just have to wait till we become a developed nation and then afford common sense, waste of time and effort before that.

 

[HimSar]

any examples from past when learning arabic lead to better understanding of Islam or from present? Quran's arabic is very much different from common spoken arabic of today....so which arabic will be taught and by whom and by what system?
pls stop falling for bongees

Uh, the standard Arabic Fusha, if you have any clue what that is and can comprehend that the Arabic taught is for the express purpose of being able to read and at least have a basic understanding of the Quran. That's the improvement.
If someone still insists reciting it like a book of mantars in a foreign language which is not for your common man's understanding and requires an elaboration by someone else, their choice. Those who did not get a chance to learn Arabic/with learning or comprehension difficulties/looking for deeper interpretations, would of course require help material or consult with someone.

 

[Rambler]

again, I am DIRECTLY QUOTING a widely published Urdu translation of Jamia Tirmzi and have listed the source.

If you got a problem with that, take it up with the narrators, compilers, translators, publishers etc.

If the word is used in various shapes of forms in Hadith literature, who are ANY of us to squirm "haw haye! haw haye!"

You are an idiot. Read what you posted.

 

[HimSar]

again, I am DIRECTLY QUOTING a widely published Urdu translation of Jamia Tirmzi and have listed the source.

If you got a problem with that, take it up with the narrators, compilers, translators, publishers etc.

If the word is used in various shapes of forms in Hadith literature, who are ANY of us to squirm "haw haye! haw haye!"

You don't get it do you.. the word in the quotations is 'qaum e' while the heading of the text is what you're referring to, again it is a term used in the later era. Don't mix things up. The word you're bent on using (intended) is not within quotations. Therefore, meaningless.

 

[M Ali Khan]

You are an idiot. Read what you posted.

You don't get it do you.. the word in the quotations is 'qaum e' while the heading of the text is what you're referring to, again it is a term used in the later era. Don't mix things up. The word you're bent on using (intended) is not within quotations. Therefore, meaningless.

Are you guys seriously having trouble reading the text from the screenshots I provided from Jamia Tirmzi's Urdu translation from Sheikh Nizamuddin??

http://www.archive.org/download/Jam...iTranslationBySheikhNazimuddinVol01Part03.pdf (pg 45-46)

The Urdu translations CLEARLY use Lawatat as a word at least once in Hadithes cited.

Once again, if you have a problem with these translations, take it up with the translators and publishers.

I'm not the idiot here but your ridiculous responses to me don't give me much confidence in your IQ levels either.

 

[HimSar]

Are you guys seriously having trouble reading the text from the screenshots I provided from Jamia Tirmzi's Urdu translation from Sheikh Nizamuddin??

http://www.archive.org/download/Jam...iTranslationBySheikhNazimuddinVol01Part03.pdf (pg 45-46)

The Urdu translations CLEARLY use Lawatat as a word at least once in Hadithes cited.

Once again, if you have a problem with these translations, take it up with the translators and publishers.

I'm not the idiot here but your ridiculous responses to me don't give me much confidence in your IQ levels either.

I have three more letters for your logic
DNR.

 

[M Ali Khan]

I have three more letters for your logic
DNR.

Does the Hadith translations in Urdu I referenced use Lawatat as a word? Yes or No?

 

[Rambler]

Are you guys seriously having trouble reading the text from the screenshots I provided from Jamia Tirmzi's Urdu translation from Sheikh Nizamuddin??

http://www.archive.org/download/Jam...iTranslationBySheikhNazimuddinVol01Part03.pdf (pg 45-46)

The Urdu translations CLEARLY use Lawatat as a word at least once in Hadithes cited.

Once again, if you have a problem with these translations, take it up with the translators and publishers.

I'm not the idiot here but your ridiculous responses to me don't give me much confidence in your IQ levels either.

Now I'm starting to pity you. May Allah help you brother.

 

[M Ali Khan]

Now I'm starting to pity you. May Allah help you brother.

Does the Hadith translations in Urdu I referenced use Lawatat as a word? Yes or No?

Well?