Pakistan was supposed to be a secular state? Listen to Quad e Azam speech!

k.a.kiani

Minister (2k+ posts)
watch this first

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbDXXhG6NFg

Some people have really started thinking that Pakistan was supposed to be a secular state and it had nothing to do with Islam and two nation theory. But I argue that if it is so then there is no reason of existence of Pakistan. If there is any reason then just let me know what was the need to divide the India.



Some people might argue that we should have been together and we could have sorted the Hind in a better way but I will say that Muslims remained suppressed during the English era that they would have been continued in Hindu-india and Muslims would have been discriminated by Hindus in every field because they were not educated, they were not so rich, they were not so resourceful at that time. So this was the turning point and it had been decided that Pakistan is an ultimate need of Muslims of sub-continent and this ideas was spirit of all the movement. There was nothing other then this and if there was then I don't agree that separate country was a good idea.

Now watch this video and decide what system Quid e Azam purposed for pakistan and all the misconception will be erased but I know it will not change the minds of traitors. For me it is irrelevant but those who are really confused will be satisfied.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfO231KOJ9A


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k.a.kiani

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: What is this (watch and reply)

Quid e Azam clearly said:

"You are only voicing my sentiments and the sentiments of millions of Mussalman. When you say that Pakistan should based made on pure foundation of social justice and Islamic.. Islamic socialism not other isms!"
 

janbazali

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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I strongly condemn Marvi Sarmad, yes Shahid Massood should be more proactive and should take a clear stance on this issue

but i am happy that this stupid SAFMA is exposed via this Marvi Sarmad

and one more thing to smile is that Zaid sab is hurting the enemy very hard, enemies are funding heavily to the organisation like SAFMA to destroy the ideology of Pakistan, but Zaid sab is truly reviving it and making it even more stronger

I stand firm and united with patriots on Islamic Republic of Pakistan, on two nation theory, on the role of Hakeem ul Ummat, on Quiad e Azam, on Pakistan armed forces.......................and i am with Zaid sab for the revival of our ideaology and identity

Pakistan is in saya-e-khuda-e-Zuljalal
Pakistanio ko apni fikar kerni hai....
ye Pakistan hmaray paas Allah ki amanat hai....is ko nuksan nhe pohanchana

jazakAllah khair
 

ir@pk

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
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good to see such debate but marvi language is offensive which should,t be.in islamic republic of pakistan she and every religon are allowed to pratice their religion so why she want a secular pakistan.
 

billet doux

Voter (50+ posts)
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When they say Two Nation Theory is void now, then why Muhammad Ali Jinnah wanted a separate country for the Muslims. Was he an ordinary corrupt politician, or wanted to make his family rule the new country? He wanted to alienate them, and make them secular? 5 million Muslims gave their lives, were they a herd of sheep and goats. They knew they would be slaughtered but they didn't restrain from crossing the borders. were they all fools? One loves the land where one is born, and how one feels at the time of leaving that place, I've gone through the experience, so when one leaves his/her birth place, there must be some very strong reason, why don't they feel shame when they say the partition was wrong, and what a joke with the souls of Sho'ada?
 

biofilm

MPA (400+ posts)
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Two-nation theory or not. It is another matter of debate. The point is we dont need it now. It is highly logical because who want freedom from whom on the base of religion. Muslims have a country now where they can practice their faith. But saying it still should be upheld is nonsense because it creates division in Pakistan when you say pakistan is for Muslims, what about others? Its not their country? who do you expect them to work for pakistan if this theory keep reminding them that they are second class citizens or spies of india or dimmi.
When they say Two Nation Theory is void now, then why Muhammad Ali Jinnah wanted a separate country for the Muslims. Was he an ordinary corrupt politician, or wanted to make his family rule the new country? He wanted to alienate them, and make them secular? 5 million Muslims gave their lives, were they a herd of sheep and goats. They knew they would be slaughtered but they didn't restrain from crossing the borders. were they all fools? One loves the land where one is born, and how one feels at the time of leaving that place, I've gone through the experience, so when one leaves his/her birth place, there must be some very strong reason, why don't they feel shame when they say the partition was wrong, and what a joke with the souls of Sho'ada?
 

Norangi

Voter (50+ posts)
The theory of pakistan is a fact that a state for muslim. But the theory being fabricated for muslim as nation could not by certified by holy book. As the book says that muslim is the one who can never be daring to interfare in others personals. Today in pakistan the biggest violation is load speakers which are being used in the name of islam. Is it being used as a source to talk allah? If so then its misunderstanding. Is this is being used to pass a message to people then why they don't think that if their voice as based on fact any load is not needed and if they are shouting nonfact then its a matter of environmental solution. This is against natural law.
 

Norangi

Voter (50+ posts)
The theory was to creat such a state where no 1 ll harm others. Basically pakistan is a union of provinces and called federation. To overlook others privacy is not is islam. Can islans teachings or Pakistan's theory bear shia and sunni or any other faction