tell me any pakistani success story beside terrorism in west.
Pakistan and India. The differences.
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Imranpak
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The situation has greatly changed since 1971. The USA and China were also silent when we broke you into three peices in 1947. Bangladesh did not revert back to being part of India either even after 1971.
we never claimed america and china are our friends like you do. we are not like paki when they can fight by themselves begging money and help from everybody.
Imranpak
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
No you claim Zionist Israel as your friend who supplies you the largest number of weapons where as we do China. Begging???...Bhindian's receive more AID then any other nation in the world especially from the UK and USA.
Calling Pakistanis terrorists is like calling all Endians piss drinkers!!!![hilar][hilar]
Successful Pakistanis?? http://www.pakistan.web.pk/threads/...s-in-and-around-the-world.2688/#axzz1vSGN3PtG
I can provide you more if you want!!
the Britishers are the one who did it. what you are claiming. paki losers can't do anything beside killing ( either their owns or some body outside )
this list is nothing compare to detained pakistani terrorists list in Guantanamo.
Imranpak
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
This list is massive but nothing infront of the 300 million homeless people in India who need toilets or the terrorists sponsored by RAW!!![hilar][hilar]. This list is also nothing infront of the thousands of your women who were raped in Gujarat by your Hindu brothers!!!
You have no list of Pakistanis in American prisons but believe in hearsay!!!(cry)
I can provide you with many more successful Pakistani lists!!! http://pakistaniawards.co.uk/
Imranpak
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I can see a piss drinker Bhindian getting angry!:P Jinnah tore apart India to shreds as much as you hate to admit it. You also know that Bhindian Muslim's are treated like vermin in India!
You dirty smelly Indian's are a disgrace or should i say a cancer on the face of this planet! Pak has acheived much and is a constant thorn in your side!
You worry about Assam, Nagaland, Kashmir, the red corridor, Naxalites and Sikh insurgents who want seperation from filthy India.
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Imranpak
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Now i understand that Bhindian Muslim's who get treated like vermin in India find it hard to see Pakistanis successful but they're just gonna have to deal with it!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_Pakistanis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_Pakistanis
Well rather than indulging in some heated debate,I would just like to share some info
"Historically, the term "Hindustan" is usually applied to the Gangetic Plain of North India, between the Himalayas and the Vindhyas.[SUP][6][/SUP]
Further, it may relate to various aspects belonging to three geographical areas: the modern Republic of India, the Indian subcontinent during medieval times, or a region in northern India, east and south of the Yamuna river, between the Vindhya mountains and the Himalayas where Hindustani languages are spoken."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindustan
I am not saying that Kashmir is a part of Pakistan,but areas of neither Kashmir,Bangladesh nor South India comes under this definition.Yeah few parts of Sindh and Punjab province could come under that definition of the word Hindustan but not entire Pakistan as a whole. So, to say that before arrival of Britishers India/Bharat/Hindustan was big grand nation/country including all smaller neighbours of it, sounds like an over-exaggeration.And the name Bharat is given after a famous king of ancient India, not Bharat of Ayudhya,the brother of Lord Ram. Moreover,it was just some strong warriors and rulers such as Ashoka and Aurangzeb when a huge portion of Indo-Pak Subcontinent went under a single flag,else it was site of internal conflicts,external invasions and different conspiracies for millenia.Even during British Raj,when 60% of the nation was under Union Jack,rest of them (40%) were ruled by princely rulers such as Maharajas,Rajput kings,Nizam and Wali. Sometimes,I feel had Britishers not arrived then there would have been minimum 12 nations rather than three countries of India,Pakistan and Bangladesh.I assume no Indian member is going to accuse ISI for all the battles of Kalinga,Panipat or 1857.
"Historically, the term "Hindustan" is usually applied to the Gangetic Plain of North India, between the Himalayas and the Vindhyas.[SUP][6][/SUP]
Further, it may relate to various aspects belonging to three geographical areas: the modern Republic of India, the Indian subcontinent during medieval times, or a region in northern India, east and south of the Yamuna river, between the Vindhya mountains and the Himalayas where Hindustani languages are spoken."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindustan
I am not saying that Kashmir is a part of Pakistan,but areas of neither Kashmir,Bangladesh nor South India comes under this definition.Yeah few parts of Sindh and Punjab province could come under that definition of the word Hindustan but not entire Pakistan as a whole. So, to say that before arrival of Britishers India/Bharat/Hindustan was big grand nation/country including all smaller neighbours of it, sounds like an over-exaggeration.And the name Bharat is given after a famous king of ancient India, not Bharat of Ayudhya,the brother of Lord Ram. Moreover,it was just some strong warriors and rulers such as Ashoka and Aurangzeb when a huge portion of Indo-Pak Subcontinent went under a single flag,else it was site of internal conflicts,external invasions and different conspiracies for millenia.Even during British Raj,when 60% of the nation was under Union Jack,rest of them (40%) were ruled by princely rulers such as Maharajas,Rajput kings,Nizam and Wali. Sometimes,I feel had Britishers not arrived then there would have been minimum 12 nations rather than three countries of India,Pakistan and Bangladesh.I assume no Indian member is going to accuse ISI for all the battles of Kalinga,Panipat or 1857.
only_truths
Minister (2k+ posts)
more in the offing.
@ Imranpak
Yaar budtameezi aur gali galoch ke baghair bhi baat ki jasakti hai. BTW, I am sorry to say that the video you are sharing has some sort of racist attitude and myths too. What about those Pakistanis who belong to Dravidian races? Are they inferior infront of all those hailing from Warriors etc....For instance, my grandparents (from both sides) were from Hyderabadi (Deccani) background, and I am not sure about maternal side but paternal relatives are mostly dark skinned so I assume they have some Dravidian lineage. Plus, even many Sindhis and Punjabis also hail from local Dravidian races and you can see many dark skinned people among them too. But I still feel proud of Indus Valley Civilization and Gandhara since this is the land where many of my relatives irrespective of their historical backgrounds are now burried. I am proud to say that my relatives are citizens of a land which was home to one of the greatest and oldest civlizations of world.
I have got no problem with Indian culture though,it's not a matter of shame or concern that we do share some similarities with our neighbours. Let's hatred,and overdose of patriotism not blindfold us to such an extreme.Even not all Indians share everything with Pakistan such as no similarity between a Malayaless from Kerala and a Pashtun from Peshawar,or a Bengali(Indian) and a Baloch(Pakistani).Hope you listen to Hassan Nisar too someday.
Look at Iranians and Egyptians,did they put dynamites in ancient ruins and sites of their respective countries?
Yaar budtameezi aur gali galoch ke baghair bhi baat ki jasakti hai. BTW, I am sorry to say that the video you are sharing has some sort of racist attitude and myths too. What about those Pakistanis who belong to Dravidian races? Are they inferior infront of all those hailing from Warriors etc....For instance, my grandparents (from both sides) were from Hyderabadi (Deccani) background, and I am not sure about maternal side but paternal relatives are mostly dark skinned so I assume they have some Dravidian lineage. Plus, even many Sindhis and Punjabis also hail from local Dravidian races and you can see many dark skinned people among them too. But I still feel proud of Indus Valley Civilization and Gandhara since this is the land where many of my relatives irrespective of their historical backgrounds are now burried. I am proud to say that my relatives are citizens of a land which was home to one of the greatest and oldest civlizations of world.
I have got no problem with Indian culture though,it's not a matter of shame or concern that we do share some similarities with our neighbours. Let's hatred,and overdose of patriotism not blindfold us to such an extreme.Even not all Indians share everything with Pakistan such as no similarity between a Malayaless from Kerala and a Pashtun from Peshawar,or a Bengali(Indian) and a Baloch(Pakistani).Hope you listen to Hassan Nisar too someday.
Look at Iranians and Egyptians,did they put dynamites in ancient ruins and sites of their respective countries?
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i agree with you for most part. let me add one thing hind is geographical term ( not religion ) if you read hadith prophet used to refer country beyond indus river as a hind. hindu is not real term as a religion ( real name is sanatan dharm ). the guy lived beyond indus river could called himself as a hindu regardless of his religion. dr Zakir proved this thing in his lactures.
why don't you explained him that in islam there is no such a thing superior and inferior.
Imranpak
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
No one said anything about being racially superior or inferior other then yourself but it's not my fault that Indian's are ugly!!! Im talking about the land that is today Pakistan insisting that mostly it was seperate from India though there have been exceptions.
Similarly we can say that we have certain similarities with the Arab's too yet are not them, it's not racist to admit this either. You finding such video's as being racist is due to your lack of intellect but i tell you that these Indian's do not understand the meaning of evolution so one is forced to show them sheer aggression. Many Indian's believe that Indonesia, Srilanka, Afghanistan even Mecca and Medina are part of Bharat Mata and the Taj Mahal was originally a Hindu temple(clap)
This is a Pakistani site so if they want respect then give it first in buckloads otherwise they're certainly not immune from being offended. I standby everything i said especially that Indian Muslim's are treated like vermin in their own nation. If "Indian786" loves his nation so much than what is he doing on a Pakistani website spewing hate against us who are the majority here! Why doesn't he fk off to his brothers and sisters on some Indian website!!:angry_smile:
Him being on this website proves that Indian Muslim's suffer from an inferiority complex and are Paki wannabee's because on many of his own Indian websites he will be abused by his brethern for being a Muslim . This is the constant predicament that they find themselves in because they have no real identity. The truth is bitter to hear and indeed hurts...
Indian786 doesn't want to be known as Pakistani anymore then i do an Indian so what is he doing on this website where naturally there will be fierce anti-Indian views. If this *** Bharati crosses me again i'll be able harsher on him...i created this thread to educate Pakistanis but if someone has a problem with it then don't make comments on it.
This proud Indian786 in post 101 asked for "any Pakistani success story" and i gave him thousand's so he now stands completely humiliated and is crying in his cornflakes!!(cry) Even his own superstar Sania Mirza preferred a Pakistani over her own Indian men!!
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Check my very first post on the topic and then see what I meant. Do check your video too which talks about Pakistanis being descendants of Mediterraneans,Aryans,Mongols etc...so in other words you tried to unite people of Pakistan on racial and genetic lines rather than the fact that they and their ancestors chose to live in Pakistan and get considered as Pakistanis. I agree with Indus Valley Civilization having some distinct feature and legacy other than areas of Ganges,but you can't wipe off links between people with such an attitude.And please debate in a proper manner rather than using words like Bhindian. When I had orkut account then me and many other Pakistanis had joined communities of Bollywood too.Islam is not about copying Arabs in every thing you do,hope you get it.
Mujhe khud herani hai key isne aisi video kyun share ki jismein genetics per Pakistani awam ko ek kiyajaraha hai.Pakistan was made on the name of Islam,same Islam whose Prophet Hazrat Mohammad pbuh eliminated barriers of racial,tribal and genetic origins and gave a black slave named Hazrat Bilal Razi Allahu Anhu a spot equivalent to his own relatives.Take example of Hazrat Salman Farsi Razi Allahu Anhu too who was a Persian,and I guess we all know the wars and rivalries between Arabs and Persians which have been taking place for centuries.But Muslims of present day(cry)
Imranpak
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Fact is not racism i mean one has to call black exactly that and evil too has to be called evil. Certainly, today Pakistan needs to be ethnically united under one flag not as Balochis, Pathans or Punjabis rather Pakistanis so no harm in that either neither. It is not racism to point out our ancestors. You need to do some research over exactly what racial prejudice is!!
Well i have edited some of my comments however if any Indian insults Pakistan again i will have no hesitation in calling them names either. If we're linked to India then we are also to the Arab's and Turk's perhaps even more....Bollywood does have Pakistani fans but Indian's also love Pakistani Music and Drama's infact they steel our work without giving us credit, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC60Y--PuY4 see all twenty parts lasting 4 hours.
I don't watch pornographic Bollywood movies whose community you claim to have proudly joined on Orkut but don't preach Islam that disallows such forms of nudity.
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only_truths
Minister (2k+ posts)
Raja Dahir (Sanskrit: राजा दाहिर, Sindhi: راجا ڏاھر) (born661 AD died 712 AD[SUP][1][/SUP]) was the last Hindu ruler situated in Sindh and parts of Punjab in modern dayPakistan. During the beginning of the Muslim conquest in the Indian subcontinent his kingdom was conquered byMuhammad bin Qasim, an Arab general, for the Umayyad Caliphate.
Question is not fighting over it, question is giving due credit where it belongs also question to give credit and possibly money to those that you copy or steal intalactual property from.
One example is that of Baba Bhuley shah, you steal all his intalactual property all the time in songs and movies and yet wont even consider refurbishing his tumb or the city he is known to have been living when he designed these fantastic verses.
So don't go twisting words to suit your style, be considerate of those from whom you have taken their intalactual property and made billions. Pay their fair share but than India never does it, took all sorts of things supposedly comming to Pakistan as its fair share when partition took place.
Most of all talk in the manner of an honorable dude and be conscious of fair and reasonable behaviour to act on.
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