only_truths
Minister (2k+ posts)
You can get yourself (& [MENTION=8742]Star Gazer[/MENTION]) get edewcated from web too apart from Pakistani text books.
Pakistan and India. The differences.
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You can get yourself (& [MENTION=8742]Star Gazer[/MENTION]) get edewcated from web too apart from Pakistani text books.
QADIANITRUTH
Senator (1k+ posts)
I came across this documentary last night, I watched it all and it shook me. I am still trying to come to terms with this kind of human behavior in the name of religion. This is the worst kind of violation of human rights...
We naturally compare ourselves with Indians, and looking at this documentary, we Pakistanis are so proud of ourselves. By comparison, we are much developed as nation compared to Indians.
Indians are good at propaganda. They also have two other advantages, huge population that means big market and a never ending thirst for acquiring weapons. That makes India a darling of the West. Otherwise, if you look at India, the kind of apartheid practiced by majority, sanctioned by religion, is a curse on India and shame for humanity. Why Indian do not feel ashamed of its treatment to human being. SECULARISM is to show to the world only.
Imranpak
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I have nothing against Hinduism, Buddhism or Sikhism whatsoever and believe that these faiths do teach peaceful coexistence infact it could very well be that Ram, Shiva etc were amongst the Prophets sent to the region. However, i can't stand the country of India.
Problem is that the Indian media is part of their government so only tells the people what they want to hear that how great India is...how peace and justice loving it's people are...how incredibly developed it is that they can point the fingure at the evil Pakistanis even Chinese whenever they want.
That the Kashmiris, Assamese, Khalistanis and Naxalites are all Pakistani backed terrorists where as the rapist Indian army are the real heroes, this is what the common Indian believes. Them killing innocents is not terrorism rather democratic values in that God forsaken bloody land of waste!
The recent fiasco over supposed Pakistani terrorists sitting in Lahore yet somehow set to attack Mumbai is a great example of what they are...COMPLETE LIERS. If this was lies exposed then why can't 26/11 be exactly the same method that killed innocents that was later blamed on us??
If such an error had been made by the Pak media the west and Indian media would have been allover us but here not a single word by anyone whatsoever. Then many Indian's wonder why we hate them with venom wanting to send them back to the dinasaur age! India is just being used by the West and will be dropped like toilet tissue when it suits the American's, Zionist's and Brit's.
Problem is that the Indian media is part of their government so only tells the people what they want to hear that how great India is...how peace and justice loving it's people are...how incredibly developed it is that they can point the fingure at the evil Pakistanis even Chinese whenever they want.
That the Kashmiris, Assamese, Khalistanis and Naxalites are all Pakistani backed terrorists where as the rapist Indian army are the real heroes, this is what the common Indian believes. Them killing innocents is not terrorism rather democratic values in that God forsaken bloody land of waste!
The recent fiasco over supposed Pakistani terrorists sitting in Lahore yet somehow set to attack Mumbai is a great example of what they are...COMPLETE LIERS. If this was lies exposed then why can't 26/11 be exactly the same method that killed innocents that was later blamed on us??
If such an error had been made by the Pak media the west and Indian media would have been allover us but here not a single word by anyone whatsoever. Then many Indian's wonder why we hate them with venom wanting to send them back to the dinasaur age! India is just being used by the West and will be dropped like toilet tissue when it suits the American's, Zionist's and Brit's.
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QADIANITRUTH
Senator (1k+ posts)
Here is more ..
Imranpak
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
There was no country called India at that time so it's not INDIAN history whatsoever! Indus civilisation says it all.
Imranpak
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
India is growing in many ways!!!
[h=1]smelly truth of India's incredible growth[/h]
By Dean NelsonWorldLast updated: January 5th, 2010
15 CommentsComment on this article
I’m on holiday in Incredible India, walking barefoot along Mahabalipuram’s long sandy beach, my wife’s hand in mine. The Bay of Bengal’s high curling waves crash and froth at our feet, I can feel the water in the sand slip through my toes and the strong sea breeze ruffles what hair remains.
It’s a fleeting moment of romance and freedom, one where you consciously think ‘life is good.’ Fleeting, because with the next step I can feel something squidgy underfoot and it isn’t sand.
It’s a dog turd, I think, as I hop towards the waves, but as I look further along the shore the high water line is marked clearly in brown dashes, broken only by the half-completed sewer channel which pours the town’s human waste onto its ‘paradise’ beach and into the sea, which, understandably, returns to sender.
I’m literally hopping mad, and in this raving state a number of undeniable truths become clear to me:
India’s great strength and power is that the world wants to believe its ‘incredible growth story’ (IGS), that the great tortoises of the developed world are so desperate to believe India can drive new growth that they cannot smell the truth: India talks a good game, tells a cracking yarn, but cannot finish what it starts.
In Delhi, the concrete columns which support its modern and otherwise impressive Metro are cracking and collapsing. Sales of the world’s cheapest and most revolutionary car, the Tata Nano, have slumped because few can stand the waiting time. India’s top nuclear scientists recently revealed its atomic bomb tests ‘fizzled’ rather than banged, and its celebrated Chandrayaan lunar mission came to a halt after a power cut.
In the 100 per night hotel we chose here (Steve Borgia’s IndEco Hotel from Alastair Sawday’s Special Places to Stay in India, whose paid-for recommendations should be treated with caution), the restaurant was filthy, grubby sheets were stained, ugly cables sagged from the noisy cheap air conditioner, squashed mosquitoes splattered the walls black and red, and staff begged for ‘backsheesh’ on the paths. Apparently it has won prizes for its ‘green’ credentials.
On the beach beyond, the sandy path to the ancient stone temples were ankle deep in cardboard party plates of leftover veg curry.
We apologise to our children, and move to a 130 a night hotel with a slightly cleaner beachfront, and check out the bathroom. The towel rail is at a 60 degree angle – presumably, as with so much else in India, someone said ‘that’ll do’ while the owner was wearing rich man’s shades elsewhere.
The trick to surviving in India and believing its IGS lies in not looking too closely. I made this mistake on a recent trip to Old Delhi on its wondrous Metro (which is spacious, frequent, air-conditioned, clean and reliable). Even here, in this extraordinary feat of planning and engineering, the walls don’t quite reach the skirting.
The reality of modern India is slapdash, lazy management, barely trained, poorly paid tradesmen who leave early, and bodge-it contractors in league with corrupt officials who take their cut by halving the amount of bitumen in roads or ending sewage channels 30 feet short of the sea.
This year the great IGS will be inspected by governments and television viewers around the world when the Commonwealth Games opens (or not) in New Delhi in October. So far, some projects have been effectively abandoned, the city’s thousands of slum dwellers are being hidden behind bamboo screens, and at this moment many believe the venues will not be completed on time.
The top Commonwealth Games executive posted from London monitor progress operates out of a trolley suitcase after more than two years in the city because his office is still not ready.
The opening of the games will be India’s moment of truth, when it can no longer be a ‘soft superpower’, the country the world most wants to believe in, and must stand or fall as a real developed economy.
As I hop along the brown-fringed shore line of Tamil Nadu’s ‘paradise’ coast, shaking my foot and cursing wildly, I hope you’ll forgive my nagging doubts
[h=1]smelly truth of India's incredible growth[/h]
By Dean NelsonWorldLast updated: January 5th, 2010
15 CommentsComment on this article
I’m on holiday in Incredible India, walking barefoot along Mahabalipuram’s long sandy beach, my wife’s hand in mine. The Bay of Bengal’s high curling waves crash and froth at our feet, I can feel the water in the sand slip through my toes and the strong sea breeze ruffles what hair remains.
It’s a fleeting moment of romance and freedom, one where you consciously think ‘life is good.’ Fleeting, because with the next step I can feel something squidgy underfoot and it isn’t sand.
It’s a dog turd, I think, as I hop towards the waves, but as I look further along the shore the high water line is marked clearly in brown dashes, broken only by the half-completed sewer channel which pours the town’s human waste onto its ‘paradise’ beach and into the sea, which, understandably, returns to sender.
I’m literally hopping mad, and in this raving state a number of undeniable truths become clear to me:
India’s great strength and power is that the world wants to believe its ‘incredible growth story’ (IGS), that the great tortoises of the developed world are so desperate to believe India can drive new growth that they cannot smell the truth: India talks a good game, tells a cracking yarn, but cannot finish what it starts.
In Delhi, the concrete columns which support its modern and otherwise impressive Metro are cracking and collapsing. Sales of the world’s cheapest and most revolutionary car, the Tata Nano, have slumped because few can stand the waiting time. India’s top nuclear scientists recently revealed its atomic bomb tests ‘fizzled’ rather than banged, and its celebrated Chandrayaan lunar mission came to a halt after a power cut.
In the 100 per night hotel we chose here (Steve Borgia’s IndEco Hotel from Alastair Sawday’s Special Places to Stay in India, whose paid-for recommendations should be treated with caution), the restaurant was filthy, grubby sheets were stained, ugly cables sagged from the noisy cheap air conditioner, squashed mosquitoes splattered the walls black and red, and staff begged for ‘backsheesh’ on the paths. Apparently it has won prizes for its ‘green’ credentials.
On the beach beyond, the sandy path to the ancient stone temples were ankle deep in cardboard party plates of leftover veg curry.
We apologise to our children, and move to a 130 a night hotel with a slightly cleaner beachfront, and check out the bathroom. The towel rail is at a 60 degree angle – presumably, as with so much else in India, someone said ‘that’ll do’ while the owner was wearing rich man’s shades elsewhere.
The trick to surviving in India and believing its IGS lies in not looking too closely. I made this mistake on a recent trip to Old Delhi on its wondrous Metro (which is spacious, frequent, air-conditioned, clean and reliable). Even here, in this extraordinary feat of planning and engineering, the walls don’t quite reach the skirting.
The reality of modern India is slapdash, lazy management, barely trained, poorly paid tradesmen who leave early, and bodge-it contractors in league with corrupt officials who take their cut by halving the amount of bitumen in roads or ending sewage channels 30 feet short of the sea.
This year the great IGS will be inspected by governments and television viewers around the world when the Commonwealth Games opens (or not) in New Delhi in October. So far, some projects have been effectively abandoned, the city’s thousands of slum dwellers are being hidden behind bamboo screens, and at this moment many believe the venues will not be completed on time.
The top Commonwealth Games executive posted from London monitor progress operates out of a trolley suitcase after more than two years in the city because his office is still not ready.
The opening of the games will be India’s moment of truth, when it can no longer be a ‘soft superpower’, the country the world most wants to believe in, and must stand or fall as a real developed economy.
As I hop along the brown-fringed shore line of Tamil Nadu’s ‘paradise’ coast, shaking my foot and cursing wildly, I hope you’ll forgive my nagging doubts
Star Gazer
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
One of my collegues, avery respectable professor in an US university travelled to India a couple of years ago, and refuses to talk about her experience promising she will NEVER visit again!
Star Gazer
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
What do you understand from it? I will explain once you can not understand it.
Non-aligend means what it means, non aligned!
Star Gazer
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Imranpak
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
India is a $hithole say westerners behind Indian backs!!!:lol:
BY ROBERT LINDSAY | JUNE 29, 2010 7:44 PM
India Is a Shithole*
BY ROBERT LINDSAY | JUNE 29, 2010 7:44 PM
India Is a Shithole*
This article sums up what modern India is all about, written by a fairly progressive fellow named Sean Kelley. I’ve been studying India for a while now, and the more I study it, the angrier I get. India, quite simply, sucks. Sucks, sucks, sucks, sucks and then sucks some more. I don’t know how long this shittiness has been going on, maybe forever. When the British first showed up, they were appalled. They tried to civilize the place, but the small-c conservative Indians kept objecting to getting civilized.What sucks? India sucks. What about it sucks?First of all, the state.The Indian state has sucked Devil’s balls in Hell from Day One, birthed in blood-soaked imperial and neo-colonial sin like America, Australia and Israel, with even less of an excuse, as a long-abused colony themselves. Now, via alliances with imperialist America, the UK and Israel, India seems to be aping the worst aspects of its former imperialist and colonialist master. Like a crime victim going on a killing spree. Of all the ways to react.The shitty nature of the Indian state is of course rooted in Indian society, as all states are rooted in the cultural formations of their societies. The Indian state sucks because Indian society sucks.Why does Indian society suck? It’s hard to sum it up. First of all, you have one of the most callous and uncaring ruling classes, with the usual upper middle class allies, found on Earth.Missing the good old days? Go to India. Nostalgic for debt slavery and bondage, feudalism (the real deal, not the semi-feudal modern kind), slavery – child and adult, child labor, **** in the streets like the Middle Ages Europe pre-Black Plague? Go to India. It’s all there in spades.Even more appalling is that no one in India gives a ****. The bourgeois either live in denial or could care less if the lower classes live, die, or flop, gasping, somewhere in between.The poor are too stupid and/or ignorant to know better, and many think that their savage and inhuman abuse, like something out of 1400′s England, is actually religiously ordained by God Himself. Sure, the bourgeois sold the poor this rope to hang themselves with, or gave it to them, but they wrapped up all up in one of the most barbaric cultural-religious systems known to modern Man, Hinduism, to give it the staying power of super-glue.The article makes clear that neoliberalism has ruined India beyond its prior Hellishness. Which is possible, since you don’t need to read Milton to learn that Hell can always get worse.The pollution and the filth.The pollution and filth is destroying India and turning it into an actual open cesspool/sewage ditch/garbage dump. One that traverses the whole country. It’s not only nauseous to breathe or look at the filth that surrounds you without respite, but it’s actually literally sickening. A visit to India means a continuous low-level infectious illness from all the filth drowning out your world.Worse, Indians don’t care. See that guy shitting on the sidewalk? Pay no attention to him. OK, he’s getting up and walking away now. No problem, just don’t step it. The rich pay the trash collectors to keep their neighborhoods clean, and **** everyone else. A callousness reminiscent of Anglo-Irish absentee landlords in 1820′s Ireland.The one good thing about neoliberalism is a decline in bureaucracy. You gut government, so there’s not much left. Bureaucracy means too many idle government slackers wasting time and dicking off. It could also mean an insanely underfunded state, which is probably the case with India.The government doesn’t give a **** about anything but the rich. The state exists only to suck up to the rich or in its human form to move up classwise and become part of the elite class. The state cares nothing about workers, consumers, the environment, Hell, about anything relating to the people.Everyone who works for the state is a crook, and they are all on the take. Schools and hospitals in rural areas are empty. Doctors and teachers collect salaries and never show up for work.Nothing works. The electric grid is down most of the time, but you pay at the end of the month anyway, even if you got little or no energy use out of the system that month. The roads are nightmarish, traffic is horrifyingly dangerous and everything is so congested it makes Los Angeles look like a breezy Sunday drive in the country. The ports don’t work either – they look like something out of 1900. Let’s see, the ports don’t work, the roads don’t work, and bureaucracy stifles everything. How is this neoliberal paradise economy supposed to function anyway?It’s tough in this neoliberal paradise to even purchase a product. Getting a hotel room is a pain in the ***. Buying a new SIM card for your cellphone is a nightmare best avoided.The one thing that everyone raves about in India is the trains. Nearly all Indians will insist that the trains are wonderful. Maybe 5-10 years ago, but not anymore. The traffic has maybe tripled, and almost no new cars or lines have been added, as you would expect neoliberals to do. The lines are Hellish, and customer service is probably better in Hell itself. Worse, no one cares. Even worse than that, Indians think Indian Train Hell is Paradise itself.Malnutrition effects 51% of the population, and about the same number are permanently stunted in their mental and physical growth. This number is flat after 15 years of explosive neoliberal growth in India. Bottom line, all the Wild West dizzying growth rates haven’t filled a single starving Indian stomach. What a **** system.The starvation and malnutrition levels are actually worse than in many parts of Sub-Saharan Africa. Kelly echoes this by saying that he’s been in 50 countries the world over, and even Ethiopia was less a shithole than India. Damn, that’s a powerful indictment. To the Africans’ credit, most Africans, despite their IQ’s, will readily admit to you that their country is a piece of ****. They don’t dig it, and they want change. Good for them.First part of getting out of a hole is not just to stop digging, but to realize that you’re in a nasty hole in the first place, and would prefer to climb out rather than digging your way towards China and sure death.Indians not only won’t stop digging, they think that trying to dig your way to China is some kind of a cultural-religious noble endeavor. Any Samaritans stopping by to toss them a rope or offer a hand are showered with abuse for refusing to acknowledge that the Indian’s deep dug pit is actually the greatest civilization created by man. Predictably, most sane folks throw down the rope, say **** em, and walk on.The Indian keeps digging as the water fills in around his muddy and beaten feat. Hunger gnaws at his belly. In response to his dim and plunging prospects, he can think of nothing to do but shout, “Glory to Bharat!” while cursing Muslims, Christians and those nasty British. With every breath, the water’s creeping higher.You wonder why I support the Indian Maoists. Of all of the people in India, only the Maoists seem to have a bat’s chance in Hell of negotiating some kind of a future lessening of the mess above. Everyone else is cheerily on board for stasis or worsening.*About the title, apologies to all of the actual shitholes in the world. I didn’t mean to compare you with India, sorry. [hilar][hilar]
Star Gazer
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Shahrukh Khan has a hindu wife, and fareed Zakaria has a Jewish wife and I don't know about the other two. Any thing common you can see?
Harvard honored Nusrat Fateh Ali, Pakistani kids have created new world records in number of As in SATs and A levels recently,Eidhi is the largest private charity organization in the world,Oscar was awarded to a Pakistani film maker this year, Pakistanis are among the top 4 most intelligent nations in the world according to a British survey, just to name a few things and that in the times of hard ship.
I am sure it is scary for you to realize, "Oh bhai what will happen once there is peace and prosperity?"
Star Gazer
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Remember your quote.
And what was the lie for the past 40 years by the indian government and indian journalist and janata, that India had no part in the East Pakistan debacle? who is a lier? INDIA.
Afet this disclosure you expect to be trusted or respected or taken seriously for peace? you have to be stupid.
Imranpak
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Indian people need to be shown the mirror every now and again because they need a reality check. No Pakistani claims that our nation is heaven on earth unlike these poor Bharatis with their "Incredible India" slogans.
by Robert Lindsay | May 16, 2012 5:35 PM India’s Fake Poverty Reduction Figures
Only 41% were below the poverty line in 2005, and even less now? What crap that is! Do you realize that many of those above the poverty level are starving?! The malnutrition rate is 50-55%. 50% of the children are permanently stunted from lack of food. So, according to the Indian state’s figures, many of those who are out of poverty are malnourished, and their children are permanently stunted from lack of food!
This what Steve doesn’t get about India. Indian people don’t care! Why is there so much poverty, starvation, shitting outdoors, homelessness, disease, horrific slums and open sewers in India? Because Indians don’t care! Higher caste Indians who run the country do not care about all of those people who are starving, dying of disease, holed up in slums, sleeping on the street, living beside open sewers, etc.
According to the Indian Hindu way of thinking, those people deserve what they are getting! And it’s nearly a sin to try to help them. At best, it’s pointless and useless. They are getting what they get due to karma, and those living more fortunate lives have already gone through Hell and have no obligation to try to help their lessers. Wealthy Indians give to their Hindu temples instead of giving to the poor because they do not want to see their money wasted on those scum low caste people.
India is probably one of the worst countries on the face of the Earth. Not only does it have the worst suffering on the planet, but the average Indian doesn’t give a flying **** about all of the horrific suffering around him. He isn’t going to help out at best and at worst, he thinks they are getting what they deserve.
All of this goes back to Indian culture, which all goes back to Indian religion, Hinduism.
by Robert Lindsay | May 16, 2012 5:35 PM India’s Fake Poverty Reduction Figures
The percentage of the population living below the international poverty line is falling though, even according to the UN and World Bank. The UN millennium development goals report has the poverty rate falling from 51% in 1990 to 22% in 2015. In 2005, the World Bank had 41.6% living below the international poverty line.
But 1 dollar 25 is **** all. Its enough to stay alive but that’s it. So hundreds of millions will be living on more than 1 dollar 25, maybe 1 dollar 50, maybe 2 or 3. But they are still pretty damn poor. India is a long way off having developed country standards of living for most of the population. But getting most people above the IPL is a good start I suppose, its progress.
It’s ****! It’s more lies! The poverty level will not drop to 25% in 3 years! No way!But 1 dollar 25 is **** all. Its enough to stay alive but that’s it. So hundreds of millions will be living on more than 1 dollar 25, maybe 1 dollar 50, maybe 2 or 3. But they are still pretty damn poor. India is a long way off having developed country standards of living for most of the population. But getting most people above the IPL is a good start I suppose, its progress.
Only 41% were below the poverty line in 2005, and even less now? What crap that is! Do you realize that many of those above the poverty level are starving?! The malnutrition rate is 50-55%. 50% of the children are permanently stunted from lack of food. So, according to the Indian state’s figures, many of those who are out of poverty are malnourished, and their children are permanently stunted from lack of food!
India doesn’t look to me like the underdeveloped sub-Saharan African countries ie royally ****** with no sign of progress. I think India will develop and have a significant middle class. The World Bank predicts it will overtake the American economy in size by like 2050 or something. I hope they get wind of toilet paper before then lol.
You are right. The starvation and the shitting outdoors is much worse than your average Black African country. I will give this much to Black Africans. I think average Black African at least cares about his people to some extent or another. Their leaders are nothing but thieves and probably do not care, but the African people do.
This what Steve doesn’t get about India. Indian people don’t care! Why is there so much poverty, starvation, shitting outdoors, homelessness, disease, horrific slums and open sewers in India? Because Indians don’t care! Higher caste Indians who run the country do not care about all of those people who are starving, dying of disease, holed up in slums, sleeping on the street, living beside open sewers, etc.
According to the Indian Hindu way of thinking, those people deserve what they are getting! And it’s nearly a sin to try to help them. At best, it’s pointless and useless. They are getting what they get due to karma, and those living more fortunate lives have already gone through Hell and have no obligation to try to help their lessers. Wealthy Indians give to their Hindu temples instead of giving to the poor because they do not want to see their money wasted on those scum low caste people.
India is probably one of the worst countries on the face of the Earth. Not only does it have the worst suffering on the planet, but the average Indian doesn’t give a flying **** about all of the horrific suffering around him. He isn’t going to help out at best and at worst, he thinks they are getting what they deserve.
All of this goes back to Indian culture, which all goes back to Indian religion, Hinduism.
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Imranpak
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
In all honesty some Bollywood movies like Sholay and Mughal-e-Azam are great but i absolutely hate today's stuff for the reasons mentioned.
One More Shitty Thing About India – Bollywood
One More Shitty Thing About India – Bollywood
You know what? Indians think Bollywood is the coolest film industry in the world. It produces like 1,000 movies a year, far higher than the total gross film production of the entire world.
But almost all of this goes straight in the trash can because nobody cares about these movies – no one cares anything about the biggest film industry in the world even if they produced 100,000,000 movies.
Every year the biggest film in India gets the maximum publicity which goes up like a Diwali rocket – it goes higher and higher until
ddddddhhhhhhhusssssss!!!!!!!!! SUPER FLOP EMBARRASSMENT!
It turns out that it was nothing but corny *** dance numbers.
On the contrary, Hollywood produces 40-50 movies but of good quality, and that’s a much better ratio. People the world over refuse to watch crappy Bollywood movies even when they release them worldwide. The Japanese can watch them for free, but they won’t even do that.
Cheap Bollywood film makers have this unique ability to copy foreign Hollywood films.
Last year they made the shittiest version ever of Terminator in Hindi called Robot which is unfortunately India’s most uncool (only Indians think it’s cool) and expensive film ever made.
Speaking of Bollywood, have you watched the trailers of some recently released movies like Anjana Anjani , Zindagi Naa Milegi Dobara on Youtube ? Please do so, and you will notice the huge difference between what I call the Indian reality vs. the Bollywood dream.
Even when 83% of Indians are living in a slum shithole, Bollywood shows them a Western standard of living which Indians cannot even dream of living. They frankly make fun of dark Indians when Bollywood ugly bitches bleach their skin to completely white and sell cheap fake fairness products on TV.
Bollywood movies consist of Caucasian bleach skinned elitists with Western roots who make movies for their own pleasure…they don’t give a damn about having any real Indian representation in their films. All they are care about is homosexuality and gay rights activism, as if there are no other issues of any importance in India.
It’s not just the poverty – Bollywood makes fun of the common Indian man in every way. This is the hypocrisy called Bollywood which makes Indians believe:
We don’t need development.
We don’t need trade.
We don’t need industry.
We don’t need infrastructure.
We don’t need an economy.
India is gonna become the next superpower because of Sharuk Khan!
Let the politicians loot the country while we are busy hung over after our cricket and Bollywood binges. Everything that is said about India’s growth story is so fake. How is it that India is growing @9% while poverty reduction is merely 0.18%? India’s trade in world share is 0.015%, while china is in double digits at par with US. Everything that is said about shining India is so fake that it’s just like Bollywood.
Indians have badly messed up both the real world and the Bollywood dream world. The dream that is like someone described, “**** covered with perfume”.
But almost all of this goes straight in the trash can because nobody cares about these movies – no one cares anything about the biggest film industry in the world even if they produced 100,000,000 movies.
Every year the biggest film in India gets the maximum publicity which goes up like a Diwali rocket – it goes higher and higher until
ddddddhhhhhhhusssssss!!!!!!!!! SUPER FLOP EMBARRASSMENT!
It turns out that it was nothing but corny *** dance numbers.
On the contrary, Hollywood produces 40-50 movies but of good quality, and that’s a much better ratio. People the world over refuse to watch crappy Bollywood movies even when they release them worldwide. The Japanese can watch them for free, but they won’t even do that.
Cheap Bollywood film makers have this unique ability to copy foreign Hollywood films.
Last year they made the shittiest version ever of Terminator in Hindi called Robot which is unfortunately India’s most uncool (only Indians think it’s cool) and expensive film ever made.
Speaking of Bollywood, have you watched the trailers of some recently released movies like Anjana Anjani , Zindagi Naa Milegi Dobara on Youtube ? Please do so, and you will notice the huge difference between what I call the Indian reality vs. the Bollywood dream.
Even when 83% of Indians are living in a slum shithole, Bollywood shows them a Western standard of living which Indians cannot even dream of living. They frankly make fun of dark Indians when Bollywood ugly bitches bleach their skin to completely white and sell cheap fake fairness products on TV.
Bollywood movies consist of Caucasian bleach skinned elitists with Western roots who make movies for their own pleasure…they don’t give a damn about having any real Indian representation in their films. All they are care about is homosexuality and gay rights activism, as if there are no other issues of any importance in India.
It’s not just the poverty – Bollywood makes fun of the common Indian man in every way. This is the hypocrisy called Bollywood which makes Indians believe:
We don’t need development.
We don’t need trade.
We don’t need industry.
We don’t need infrastructure.
We don’t need an economy.
India is gonna become the next superpower because of Sharuk Khan!
Let the politicians loot the country while we are busy hung over after our cricket and Bollywood binges. Everything that is said about India’s growth story is so fake. How is it that India is growing @9% while poverty reduction is merely 0.18%? India’s trade in world share is 0.015%, while china is in double digits at par with US. Everything that is said about shining India is so fake that it’s just like Bollywood.
Indians have badly messed up both the real world and the Bollywood dream world. The dream that is like someone described, “**** covered with perfume”.
Imranpak
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
...and finally!
[h=1]In India, Thievery Is a Way of Life[/h].
India is corrupt nearly across the board, from one end to the other, from the lowest local officials to the highest heads of state. I believe at one time it was estimated that almost the entirety of India’s Parliament was either made up of criminals or those suspected of being criminals (most crime was corruption related). Although corruption is a way of life in India, it’s now becoming risky for foreign companies to bribe their way into deals because of a recent Supreme Court decision invalidating many 2G contracts due to the fact that they were negotiated under corrupt terms. So while it is necessary to bribe to do business in India, foreign companies may now be reluctant to bribe because the contract may become invalidated.
In India, as in most such countries, the problem is not the state per se. The state is owned by the rich and large business interests. They work for them and only for them and against everyone else. This is the society that conservatives dream of. Conservatives believe that the rich and big business should own society and should run the state for the benefit of these groups. Therefore, the 3rd World really is the conservative dream model.
One wonders if mass thievery as in corruption has always been the Indian way. It probably always has, and its roots are probably in the Hindu religion which emphasizes duty over morality.
Interestingly, at the end of the piece, the author quotes a major think tank as saying that India’s economic boom has been made possible by bribery and mass corruption. Therefore, the economic boom that the neoliberals are ranting about so much has all been based on theft, even mass, pervasive and chronic theft on a daunting scale. Why is an economic boom based on mass and extreme thievery something to be desired, much less something to be lauded. This I need to know.
So please before you Indian's critisise us Pakistanis do some research about what the world really thinks about you!
[h=1]In India, Thievery Is a Way of Life[/h].
India is corrupt nearly across the board, from one end to the other, from the lowest local officials to the highest heads of state. I believe at one time it was estimated that almost the entirety of India’s Parliament was either made up of criminals or those suspected of being criminals (most crime was corruption related). Although corruption is a way of life in India, it’s now becoming risky for foreign companies to bribe their way into deals because of a recent Supreme Court decision invalidating many 2G contracts due to the fact that they were negotiated under corrupt terms. So while it is necessary to bribe to do business in India, foreign companies may now be reluctant to bribe because the contract may become invalidated.
In India, as in most such countries, the problem is not the state per se. The state is owned by the rich and large business interests. They work for them and only for them and against everyone else. This is the society that conservatives dream of. Conservatives believe that the rich and big business should own society and should run the state for the benefit of these groups. Therefore, the 3rd World really is the conservative dream model.
One wonders if mass thievery as in corruption has always been the Indian way. It probably always has, and its roots are probably in the Hindu religion which emphasizes duty over morality.
Interestingly, at the end of the piece, the author quotes a major think tank as saying that India’s economic boom has been made possible by bribery and mass corruption. Therefore, the economic boom that the neoliberals are ranting about so much has all been based on theft, even mass, pervasive and chronic theft on a daunting scale. Why is an economic boom based on mass and extreme thievery something to be desired, much less something to be lauded. This I need to know.
So please before you Indian's critisise us Pakistanis do some research about what the world really thinks about you!
Vitamin_C
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
My brother you are mistaken. Even until partition 60% of rural population was Hindu, there were no Hindu-Muslim riots in Sindh, Sindh was based on national unity and not on religion, Hindu Sindhi and Muslim Sindhi are one and the same. Muhammed bin Qasim is a hero in Pakistan, but Sindhis believe that he was a pirate and looter and rather hold Raja Dahir as the hero, Islam had reached Sindh long before Muhammed bin Qasim. There was no Muslim conquest, throughout history Sindh has been affiliated with peace, Sufism and literature & peotry.
I also think that Hinduism originated here which is a good thing, but we still have nothing to do with the rest of Indian subcontinent we have a different history and culture. Btw many of my friends are of Dahir cast, this cast in now Muslim, many other casts are still Hindu. Which doesnt really matter anyways.
what is your opinion about Jinnah who married with parsi girl ( Dinsha Petit ). imran khan also married with christian girl. i just don't understand paki mentality what his personal life has to do with his achievement. i have high respect for Imran khan for his bowling, captaincy and work he is doing after the cricket. cancer hospital and education.
dilip kumar ( yusuf khan ) earned respect with out marrying any hindu girl. mohammed rafi was respected guy, list is go on. grow up brother. come out of this silly stupid zaid hamid type mentality.
Poverty in pakistan
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Deeply linked to the massive debt and poorly educated people, is the large portion of Pakistan's population that lives in poverty. With an average of 2,000 dollars of GDP per person (adjusted for purchasing power parity), the average citizen is forced to live off very limited resources. This is reflected in the fact that 34% of the population lives below the poverty line, despite a mere 7% unemployment. Pakistan's lack of fiscal resources is yet another barrier against foreign investment. Without foreign investment, Pakistan lacks the resources to bring about positive economic development. Without positive economic development, Pakistan is unable to attract foreign investors. Without foreign investors... you get the point.
http://people.usd.edu/~clehmann/pop_prob/pakistan/internalproblems.htm
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Uneducated population unattractive to foreign business
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Difficult to recruit foreign businesses
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Only 38 million of 142 million make up work force
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7% unemployment, but 34% of people in poverty
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No foreign investment
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Pakistan remains poor
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Deeply linked to the massive debt and poorly educated people, is the large portion of Pakistan's population that lives in poverty. With an average of 2,000 dollars of GDP per person (adjusted for purchasing power parity), the average citizen is forced to live off very limited resources. This is reflected in the fact that 34% of the population lives below the poverty line, despite a mere 7% unemployment. Pakistan's lack of fiscal resources is yet another barrier against foreign investment. Without foreign investment, Pakistan lacks the resources to bring about positive economic development. Without positive economic development, Pakistan is unable to attract foreign investors. Without foreign investors... you get the point.
http://people.usd.edu/~clehmann/pop_prob/pakistan/internalproblems.htm
