Out of time?: As first 90 days conclude, PTI flounders in deep water

[Pakistan1992]

IK keep doing ur work, ignore loosers

 

[Democratic]

Logically the half that goes against NS seems correct. Clinton called him the greatest actor of the world for being a PM of a country who didn't know that there was a war building up in kargil, while the Agency of another country knew. The video shows him giving a speech to the army(now what would prompt a PM to go to a place like kargil to give them a speech specially with words like may siachen per isi kisam ki hawa dek raha hu?) Connect the dots in the video.

Are you joking again? I watched what clinton said years back. He did not say that Nawaz is the greatest actor but he said non-verbatim "Nawaz must be telling me the truth unless he was the greatest actor of the world".

 

[Democratic]

Are you sure you know about Pakistan Politics? They were in coalition government with PPP for 3 years

I hope you apologize for this blatant lie and sheer ignorance.

ISLAMABAD, May 13 (APP): Federal Ministers belonging to Pakistan Muslim League (Nawaz) on Tuesday tendered their resignations to Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani, following disagreement over the issue of judges.However an official at the PM House said the Prime Minister has not yet accepted the resignations.
Final decision about the resignations will be taken in consultation when the Pakistan Peoples Party Co‑chairman Asif Ali Zardari returns home from London, the official said.
The resignation came six weeks after the PML‑N joined the coalition government led by Pakistan Peoples Party. The ministers took oath of office on March 31.

The two major partners in the four‑party coalition failed to agree on the mode of restoration of judges, who were deposed with the imposition of emergency on November 3, 2007.
The PML‑N Chief Nawaz Sharif Monday said his party would continue to support the government on issue to issue basis.
The ministers met Prime Minister Gilani at the PM House and submitted their signations.
The nine ministers who resigned their cabinet posts include;
Ch Nisar Ali Khan, Shahid Khaqan Abbasi, Mrs Tehmina Daultana, Rana Tanveer Ahmed, Muhammad Ishaq Dar, Khawaja Muhammad Asif, Sardar Mehtab Ahmed Khan and Khawaja Saad Rafique.

http://www.app.com.pk/en_/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=38079

 

[miafridi]

I hope you apologize for this blatant lie and sheer ignorance.

ISLAMABAD, May 13 (APP): Federal Ministers belonging to Pakistan Muslim League (Nawaz) on Tuesday tendered their resignations to Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani, following disagreement over the issue of judges.However an official at the PM House said the Prime Minister has not yet accepted the resignations.
Final decision about the resignations will be taken in consultation when the Pakistan Peoples Party Co‑chairman Asif Ali Zardari returns home from London, the official said.
The resignation came six weeks after the PML‑N joined the coalition government led by Pakistan Peoples Party. The ministers took oath of office on March 31.

The two major partners in the four‑party coalition failed to agree on the mode of restoration of judges, who were deposed with the imposition of emergency on November 3, 2007.
The PML‑N Chief Nawaz Sharif Monday said his party would continue to support the government on issue to issue basis.
The ministers met Prime Minister Gilani at the PM House and submitted their signations.
The nine ministers who resigned their cabinet posts include;
Ch Nisar Ali Khan, Shahid Khaqan Abbasi, Mrs Tehmina Daultana, Rana Tanveer Ahmed, Muhammad Ishaq Dar, Khawaja Muhammad Asif, Sardar Mehtab Ahmed Khan and Khawaja Saad Rafique.

http://www.app.com.pk/en_/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=38079

You didn't see the timing again in this news.. following is the full news and its timing:

On May 13, 2008, the PML (N) ministers resigned from the government due to a disagreement related to the reinstatement of the judges. Nawaz said that the PML (N) would support the government without participating in it. Zardari, hoping to preserve the coalition, told Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani to reject the resignations.[SUP][25][/SUP]
The Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) and the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) on June 27, 2008, won three and two by-election seats, respectively, to the national parliament. Polls were postponed for the sixth seat in Lahore due to Nawaz Sharif's eligibility contest. A court ruled he was ineligible due to an old conviction, amid a government appeal in the Supreme Court, which will hear the case on June 30, thus postponing the vote in the constituency.

link : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_Muslim_League_%28N%29

Now there are 2 things that are of importance here, One Nawaz ministers presented resignation but opted to keep supporting PPP(while they were also in coalition with PPP in the PML-N led punjab government), Zardari also told zardari to reject the resignation.
The 2nd part is Nawaz was ineligible to contest election and the by elections were to be held a month after his ministers offered resignation. So to get the support of the court and popularity among masses(so that they accept the eligibility with smile) all this resignation drama was played.

There is also another thing, i don't think anyone would postpone election of a constituency for a candidate but in case of Nawaz the elections of his constituency was postponed(they knew he was going to be eligible and will contest and will win due to a heroic thing of restoration of judges).

Note the timing.
Resignation(rejected), then postponing by elections, then restoring judges(making him a hero), then by-elections and walah he is back in politics again with popularity. While all this time and for more 2 and half years they were in coalition formally in punjab and informally in the center...

 

[miafridi]

You must be living on mars. PML-N ministers resigned from the central government on May 13 2008 just a few months after the formation of government when it became apparent that PPP is not interested in re-installing the deposed judges. Later in March 2009 Nawaz Sharif led the long march. Educate yourself before opening your mouth.

On May 13, 2008, the PML (N) ministers resigned from the government due to a disagreement related to the reinstatement of the judges. Nawaz said that the PML (N) would support the government without participating in it. Zardari, hoping to preserve the coalition, told Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani to reject the resignations.[SUP][25][/SUP]
The Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) and the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) on June 27, 2008, won three and two by-election seats, respectively, to the national parliament. Polls were postponed for the sixth seat in Lahore due to Nawaz Sharif's eligibility contest. A court ruled he was ineligible due to an old conviction, amid a government appeal in the Supreme Court, which will hear the case on June 30, thus postponing the vote in the constituency.

link : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_Muslim_League_%28N%29

Now there are 2 things that are of importance here, One Nawaz ministers presented resignation but opted to keep supporting PPP(while they were also in coalition with PPP in the PML-N led punjab government), Zardari also told zardari to reject the resignation.
The 2nd part is Nawaz was ineligible to contest election and the by elections were to be held a month after his ministers offered resignation. So to get the support of the court and popularity among masses(so that they accept the eligibility with smile) all this resignation drama was played.

There is also another thing, i don't think anyone would postpone election of a constituency for a candidate but in case of Nawaz the elections of his constituency was postponed(they knew he was going to be eligible and will contest and will win due to a heroic thing of restoration of judges).

Note the timing.
Resignation(rejected), then postponing by elections, then restoring judges(making him a hero), then by-elections and walah he is back in politics again with popularity. While all this time and for more 2 and half years they were in coalition formally in punjab and informally in the center...

Budget is divided over the population so population is inclusive to budget.

Of course Budget is divided over the population but wasn't divided in population in PML-N led Punjab government unfortunately, because if it was then there would be more projects throughout the province and not just few in Lahore like Metro bus(only for lahore), Laptop(in lahore), Ujala(in lahore), But yes only Danish schools were spread across the province. And i reiterate again that 900 billion plus budget a year(which makes it around 4500 billion in 5 years) cannot be justified for only few projects whose entire cost is around 100 billion.

 

[miafridi]

Are you joking again? I watched what clinton said years back. He did not say that Nawaz is the greatest actor but he said non-verbatim "Nawaz must be telling me the truth unless he was the greatest actor of the world".

Now let me conclude the content of the video for you. In a recent interview(shown in the video) Nawaz said something like "in my time all the decisions were taken by the government and authorities implemented it(perhaps he didn't have kargil on his mind when he gave this statement), This statement is a direct negation of a fact that he didn't know that Musharraf was wagging a war on india in Kargil.

The whole video comes to a logical conclusion:
Nawaz was briefed about kargil. He apparently didn't have any problem with that(because he also went and gave a speech to the army). The CIA wasn't sleeping and they saw the development and so they summoned NS(meanwhile a meeting took place in which NS was briefed about the kargil, but he had already received a summon from US so he said to Musharraf he will talk about this on monday(as musharraf claimed) and shujahat hussain also claimed). Then he went to US, They told him that the CIA has seen that Pakistan is wagging a war on india in kargil(and they were also unhappy with it), So NS became shocked to know how did they come to know, Now this is the Time when NS started to say that he didn't know of any such thing happening in Pakistan(because he knew if he said that he knew about it and didn't inform US or was doing it hiddenly from US he could lose the US support), The US may or may not have believed him but they ordered him to withdraw and so he complied.

 

[Imranpak]

If IK does not fulfil his 90 days promises then he needs to explain. There can be no special place for him whatsoever.

 

[Democratic]

Now there are 2 things that are of importance here, One Nawaz ministers presented resignation but opted to keep supporting PPP(while they were also in coalition with PPP in the PML-N led punjab government), Zardari also told zardari to reject the resignation.
The 2nd part is Nawaz was ineligible to contest election and the by elections were to be held a month after his ministers offered resignation. So to get the support of the court and popularity among masses(so that they accept the eligibility with smile) all this resignation drama was played.

There is also another thing, i don't think anyone would postpone election of a constituency for a candidate but in case of Nawaz the elections of his constituency was postponed(they knew he was going to be eligible and will contest and will win due to a heroic thing of restoration of judges).

Note the timing.
Resignation(rejected), then postponing by elections, then restoring judges(making him a hero), then by-elections and walah he is back in politics again with popularity. While all this time and for more 2 and half years they were in coalition formally in punjab and informally in the center...




Of course Budget is divided over the population but wasn't divided in population in PML-N led Punjab government unfortunately, because if it was then there would be more projects throughout the province and not just few in Lahore like Metro bus(only for lahore), Laptop(in lahore), Ujala(in lahore), But yes only Danish schools were spread across the province. And i reiterate again that 900 billion plus budget a year(which makes it around 4500 billion in 5 years) cannot be justified for only few projects whose entire cost is around 100 billion.

You are a pathological liar who is stubborn enough not to accept that he lied or was misinformed.

 

[Democratic]

Now let me conclude the content of the video for you. In a recent interview(shown in the video) Nawaz said something like "in my time all the decisions were taken by the government and authorities implemented it(perhaps he didn't have kargil on his mind when he gave this statement), This statement is a direct negation of a fact that he didn't know that Musharraf was wagging a war on india in Kargil.

The whole video comes to a logical conclusion:
Nawaz was briefed about kargil. He apparently didn't have any problem with that(because he also went and gave a speech to the army). The CIA wasn't sleeping and they saw the development and so they summoned NS(meanwhile a meeting took place in which NS was briefed about the kargil, but he had already received a summon from US so he said to Musharraf he will talk about this on monday(as musharraf claimed) and shujahat hussain also claimed). Then he went to US, They told him that the CIA has seen that Pakistan is wagging a war on india in kargil(and they were also unhappy with it), So NS became shocked to know how did they come to know, Now this is the Time when NS started to say that he didn't know of any such thing happening in Pakistan(because he knew if he said that he knew about it and didn't inform US or was doing it hiddenly from US he could lose the US support), The US may or may not have believed him but they ordered him to withdraw and so he complied.

You are again making up things to cover your lie or misconception. You said that Clinton said that Nawaz is the biggest actor while he did not say any such thing.

 

[جمہور پسند]

KPK has already been put on track of change, No corruption seen by the govt and his team where there were daily millions of wastage money during the previous govt. PTI has already introduced many reform in the province.

You are living in Fools paradise....

Name any provincial govt institute like KPK Police - corrupt, Patwari - corrupt, Education Dept - Corrupt, Excise Dept - corrupt.......

Govt or uss key team ka achaar dalu gey, jab neechay corruption key ***** beh rahey hoo...

 

[جمہور پسند]

You are again making up things to cover your lie or misconception. You said that Clinton said that Nawaz is the biggest actor while he did not say any such thing.

Mate, You think any PTIAN will ever accept they are at Fault?....Never...it's useless to argue with them..

 

[Democratic]

Mate, You think any PTIAN will ever accept they are at Fault?....Never...it's useless to argue with them..

I am utterly shocked , baffeled and surprised at how he lied to my face and now is making up gibberish to cover his lies. Such trolls then demand the national politicians to accept their mistakes when they themselves can not accept their mistakes even on an online forum.

 

[miafridi]

You are again making up things to cover your lie or misconception. You said that Clinton said that Nawaz is the biggest actor while he did not say any such thing.

Clinton didn't say that "Sharif must have been saying the truth" He said that "Unless he was the greatest actor of the world,there must be a command and control problem". would you apologize on lying?

Now this statement that "there must be a command and control problem" by Clinton was negated by Sharif in a recent interview to the indian Anchor and said everything that happens was planned and done by the government in my time.That statement by Nawaz Sharif can be seen in the same video

 

[miafridi]

You are a pathological liar who is stubborn enough not to accept that he lied or was misinformed.

You are either stubborn or having lack of logic to be denying all 3 of the scenarios, First the 1999 kargil,then the resignation and judges restoration, Then parting ways with PPP just when PTI was gaining popularity. In politics its timing that counts.

 

[Democratic]

Clinton didn't say that "Sharif must have been saying the truth" He said that "Unless he was the greatest actor of the world,there must be a command and control problem". would you apologize on lying?

Now this statement that "there must be a command and control problem" by Clinton was negated by Sharif in a recent interview to the indian Anchor and said everything that happens was planned and done by the government in my time.That statement by Nawaz Sharif can be seen in the same video

I have never seen such a display of public shamelessness. I am putting you in my ignore list for your dishonesty and blatant lies.

 

[miafridi]

Mate, You think any PTIAN will ever accept they are at Fault?....Never...it's useless to argue with them..

I am utterly shocked , baffeled and surprised at how he lied to my face and now is making up gibberish to cover his lies. Such trolls then demand the national politicians to accept their mistakes when they themselves can not accept their mistakes even on an online forum.

Talk with logic and not with personal attacks. You(Atif) have been doing personal attacks in all of your comments by using humiliating words like "Educate yourself before opening mouth" or calling me a liar while i am providing you links in support of my arguments. If you can't talk without attacking the personality of someone then i guess you shouldn't talk but start attacking right away.

 

[miafridi]

I have never seen such a display of public shamelessness. I am putting you in my ignore list for your dishonesty and blatant lies.

You have not provided a single counter statement for what i have said but keep attacking my personality. This is simply not expected from a man of a character. I am disappointed to have wasted my time with you.

 

[miafridi]

I have never seen such a display of public shamelessness. I am putting you in my ignore list for your dishonesty and blatant lies.

Seriously, is it possible? You are lying now. Even if i lied it wasn't as big as saying " I never seen such a display of public shamelessness ". I suppose you work in best dialogue based bollywood movie.

 

[miafridi]

I have never seen such a display of public shamelessness. I am putting you in my ignore list for your dishonesty and blatant lies.

And seriously, didn't you see a leader doing a more shameless(if i even come out as a liar) public display by saying he will end load shedding in 6 months, in front of the whole media and then say it was josh-e-khitabat in front of the same cameras. And please don't say that you never lie, Please don't say because it will be a lie in itself. Because you are not a Sufi who don't lie. LOL

 

[panHat]

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