Out of time?: As first 90 days conclude, PTI flounders in deep water

[Qalandari1]

PESHAWAR: The Pakistan Tehreek-e- Insaf (PTI) is still passing through vicissitude within its ranks, as the 90-day target set by the party to bring change in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa (K-P) comes to an end.



While facing internal incoherence, the party is yet to face the gigantic tasks of bringing reforms and ending corruption in various sectors of the government.


The latest in the series of problems the PTI must confront comes in the shape of asking Law Minister Israrullah Gandapur to explain why he allegedly supported Jamiat Ulema-e-Islami (JUI-F) candidate Asad Mehmud on NA-25 DI Khan-cum-Tank in the by-election campaign instead of PTI candidate Dawar Kundi.


The by-elections on NA-25 were postponed by the Election Commission of Pakistan on account of security concerns in the region. The JUI-F and PTI are rivals on this seat.


The Express Tribune learnt, however, that the PTI is in disharmony in the constituency and is holding Gandapur responsible for his dubious role in supporting the JUI-F as opposed to the PTI ticket holder.

The concerns and complaints made to the PTIs central leadership by the partys office bearers regarding the provincial minister led to the constitution of a five-member inquiry committee, which will probe the situation and decide whether the minister really supported a candidate against the PTI.


Earlier, Gandapur, who was elected as an independent candidate on a provincial assembly seat in the general elections and later joined the PTI, was summoned by Chief Minister Pervez Khattak to clear his position, said people familiar with the matter.


PTI regional coordinator for southern areas Ali Ameen confirmed an explanation had been sought from Gandapur. Ameen added the minister would now have to choose between the PTI and JUI-F.


His (Gandapurs) role is suspicious, and PTI chief Imran Khan knows it, he added. If he supported the JUI-F then he has double standards. This kind of behaviour is intolerable within the party.


PTI district leader in Tank, Ayub Bhittani, meanwhile, said Israrullahs brother Ikramullah Gandapur had been publically supporting the JUI-F candidate in the region. Recently, I tried to hold a public meeting in support of the PTI but the party leaders, including Israrullah and Ali Ameen, did not turn up, Bhittani informed.


Irarullah Gandapur, meanwhile, could not be contacted for comments.


Another issue facing the party has to do with PTI MPA from PK-25, Obaid Khan Mayar, who has been served a show-cause notice by the party on charges of corruption. Mayar too, is set to face an inquiry. He told the media he had asked the party leadership in K-P to follow merit-based policies in the province in general and in district Mardan in particular.


In the past 90 days, which the PTI visualised as a crucial timeframe within which to trigger change, the partys internal rifts in the wake of by-elections have also cost the party the NA-1 Peshawar seat, which was secured by Awami National Party leader Ghulam Ahmad Bilour. The PTI never even got off to a smooth start to begin with, as the allocation of provincial ministerial slots to elected candidates was a process in which reservations and expressions of bereavement were commonplace. Some of this discontent within the party lingers to this day.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/597554/...90-days-conclude-pti-flounders-in-deep-water/

 

[miafridi]

Things would have been easier had PTI got the ultimate power. But now they will have to do things with so many hardships in front of them. They don't have ultimate power in certain areas which is keeping their pace down...And if you see the overall performace of the central government and other provincial governments PTI seem to have an edge.

The central government have only increased burdens on the people with GST,IMF loan,Electricity tarrif hike, Petrol tarrif Hike, Circular debt was paid now came back(due to lack of reforms). The only good thing that the government of Pakistan can show is that they visited China and got agreements with them(which was already initiated by the PPP government and only signing of the projects was what left).

 

[Res1Pect]

Those (PPP, ANP, FAZL and Others) who have already been 'DROWNED' in the dirty water of their 'Dirty Deeds' can only see 'the same dirty water' everywhere...Mr. Qalandari, Get this dirty water out of your eyes and you'd see the progress of PTI.

 

[rainbow22]

A honest man like Imran Khan needs a better system. This old british system is not made for free and honest people, it was made for corrupt people like Nawaz and Zardari. Only they can win in this system.

 

[Democratic]

Things would have been easier had PTI got the ultimate power. But now they will have to do things with so many hardships in front of them. They don't have ultimate power in certain areas which is keeping their pace down...And if you see the overall performace of the central government and other provincial governments PTI seem to have an edge.

The central government have only increased burdens on the people with GST,IMF loan,Electricity tarrif hike, Petrol tarrif Hike, Circular debt was paid now came back(due to lack of reforms). The only good thing that the government of Pakistan can show is that they visited China and got agreements with them(which was already initiated by the PPP government and only signing of the projects was what left).

The narrative here is obviously wrong. Saying that PTI did not get exclusive power therefore its supposed failures should be excused is not coherent with the past precedences and the ground realities. Shahbaz Sharif had to operate in Punjab while a very hostile towards PML-N government was there in the capital. PPP left no stone unturned to put obstacles in the path of Punjab government. Have you gone through the details of Nandipur power plant hardware been dumped in Karachi by the federal government? Do you remember how governor rule was implemented? Do you remember how Salman taseer was installed to tease the nerves of Punjab government? Babar Awan and Manzoor Watto had camped in lahore castigating the provincial government on daily basis but yet Shahbaz Sharif outscored them completely. He kept focused and went to all extents for the development of Punjab. He launched practical and productive schemes , stuck deals with international companies and governments , straightened the bureaucracy and what not.

Unless one is has not immersed his mind in the hatred of "Noora" , he shall see that the center is not hostile towards the provincial government of KPK. They have not installed any governor of their party even. The only complaint that the provincial government made was about its share in electricity and it was dealt with by Khwaja Asif with in a few days. But again as usual , PTI is not focused on looking at the mirror. The conflicts and tenderness of the leaders of PTI-KPK is an open secret but no one dares discuss it due to internal guilt and fear. The Chief minister is all out for nepotism but he is ignored due to the fear of rifts in the party. The provincial speaker and MPA's are not only playing the usual political games of influence in their constituencies but as they are new , they are naive so they are making far more blunders. Its time to take a long breath , re-think and correct the affairs of the provincial government instead of making lame excuses for it.

 

[pakistani786]

PTI is party of U TURNS

Another U turn, SC se ya CJ se khbaee bhee muafee nehin mangoun ga
phir bola , no no sorry sorry, i did not say SC or CJ. I was talking about election commission.

 

[Mr Justice]

Nooras will always try to bring about -ve against PTI. They can gain nothing like this.

Tind brothers came in power with the help of their ultimate masters, the Saudis and Americans, but worry not, they will ultimately learn their lesson......in a bad bad way......

 

[Democratic]

The mindset of a typical PTI troll who lacks any introspection is summarized as below. The numbers exemplify his axioms.

That which can not be wrong

1.Imran khan is always right
2.Imran khan/PTI shall bring the change
3.Rest of the politicians and political parties are the enemies of Pakistan.
4.A grand conspiracy has been launched to keep Imran out.
5.An overwhelming majority of Pakistanis agree with me on the above four preposition and can not think differently.

What if something contradicts the above propositions.

1.This illiterate and bloody nation does not deserve Imran khan.
2.The system is bad enough to be changed by Imran khan/PTI
3.It must be a conspiracy against PTI. You know media has been bought be Nawaz Sharif
4.Noora
5.Rigging

 

[fnoman]

am surprise to see this news. PTI is delivering, every day or so we hear about new reform, new development. And this news doesn't talk about anything except -ves..

 

[miafridi]

The narrative here is obviously wrong. Saying that PTI did not get exclusive power therefore its supposed failures should be excused is not coherent with the past precedences and the ground realities. Shahbaz Sharif had to operate in Punjab while a very hostile towards PML-N government was there in the capital. PPP left no stone unturned to put obstacles in the path of Punjab government. Have you gone through the details of Nandipur power plant hardware been dumped in Karachi by the federal government? Do you remember how governor rule was implemented? Do you remember how Salman taseer was installed to tease the nerves of Punjab government? Babar Awan and Manzoor Watto had camped in lahore castigating the provincial government on daily basis but yet Shahbaz Sharif outscored them completely. He kept focused and went to all extents for the development of Punjab. He launched practical and productive schemes , stuck deals with international companies and governments , straightened the bureaucracy and what not.

Unless one is has not immersed his mind in the hatred of "Noora" , he shall see that the center is not hostile towards the provincial government of KPK. They have not installed any governor of their party even. The only complaint that the provincial government made was about its share in electricity and it was dealt with by Khwaja Asif with in a few days. But again as usual , PTI is not focused on looking at the mirror. The conflicts and tenderness of the leaders of PTI-KPK is an open secret but no one dares discuss it due to internal guilt and fear. The Chief minister is all out for nepotism but he is ignored due to the fear of rifts in the party. The provincial speaker and MPA's are not only playing the usual political games of influence in their constituencies but as they are new , they are naive so they are making far more blunders. Its time to take a long breath , re-think and correct the affairs of the provincial government instead of making lame excuses for it.

Wasn't PML-N part of the central government with 68 huge margin of seats? While PPP was only leading with a 17 more seats that PML-N, so obviously PML-N was in a good position to dictate its terms to even the the Central government, so blaming that PPP was very hostile towards it(specially in the first 3 years when they were in coalition) isn't the full truth. The Rift in the the PPP and PML-N and the slogan "Go zardari Go" only came after they saw the threat of PTI sealing the victory. Otherwise PML-N was happy with playing with PPP and with the people of Pakistan. I said playing with PPP because they wanted PPP to fail badly so that PML-N could remain the only party that could remain in the full power for the rest of their lives due to the ultra worse government of PPP, but unfortunately then PTI came to popularity and soon after it PML-N decided to part ways with PPP.

And by the way Punjab has the highest budget of all the provinces(around 900 billion a year), almost 3 times the budget of KPK. So showing schemes like Metro Bus,Laptop,Ujala and Danish schools whose entire budget wouldn't exceed 100 billion is just an eye wash.

Saying that PTI is not accomplishing things quickly doesn't mean that it should be made an excuse. It was just to say that things didn't go as planned because they don't have ultimate power. Things will change but with a slower pace now because even in the province they didn't come with ultimate power like PML-N in the center. And they had spent at least a month to keep the ministries or persuade the others to follow their vision if they want those ministries, because they had made claims in their manifesto. For the most part PTI is doing well and the future looks bright.

 

[miafridi]

The mindset of a typical PTI troll who lacks any introspection is summarized as below. The numbers exemplify his axioms.

That which can not be wrong

1.Imran khan is always right
2.Imran khan/PTI shall bring the change
3.Rest of the politicians and political parties are the enemies of Pakistan.
4.A grand conspiracy has been launched to keep Imran out.
5.An overwhelming majority of Pakistanis agree with me on the above four preposition and can not think differently.

What if something contradicts the above propositions.

1.This illiterate and bloody nation does not deserve Imran khan.
2.The system is bad enough to be changed by Imran khan/PTI
3.It must be a conspiracy against PTI. You know media has been bought be Nawaz Sharif
4.Noora
5.Rigging

Well for the most part every leader of every other party works on the wishes of the international forces. A great, brave, true and pro pakistan would seek help from others but not a master to slave manner, but on a mutual interest manner. Please see below How Nawaz reacted in the kargil war.

http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthre...-WATCH-every-pakistani&highlight=nawaz+sharif

 

[Democratic]

Wasn't PML-N part of the central government with 68 huge margin of seats? While PPP was only leading with a 17 more seats that PML-N, so obviously PML-N was in a good position to dictate its terms to even the the Central government, so blaming that PPP was very hostile towards it(specially in the first 3 years when they were in coalition) isn't the full truth. The Rift in the the PPP and PML-N and the slogan "Go zardari Go" only came after they saw the threat of PTI sealing the victory. Otherwise PML-N was happy with playing with PPP and with the people of Pakistan. I said playing with PPP because they wanted PPP to fail badly so that PML-N could remain the only party that could remain in the full power for the rest of their lives due to the ultra worse government of PPP, but unfortunately then PTI came to popularity and soon after it PML-N decided to part ways with PPP.

PML-N was a part of the central government for a few months. It was not PPP solely running central government but it was a collation government and PML-N was in to terms in a position of dictating the collation government as not only the coalition had outnumbered PML-N but all of its constituents were hostile towards PML-N. Rest of what you said is your emotional rhetoric of fairy-tales from the fairyland where Imran khan is the messiah and PTI is the gang of the messiah but it has nothing to do with the real world.

And by the way Punjab has the highest budget of all the provinces(around 900 billion a year), almost 3 times the budget of KPK. So showing schemes like Metro Bus,Laptop,Ujala and Danish schools whose entire budget wouldn't exceed 100 billion is just an eye wash.

Punjab has five times the population of KPK so i again fail to understand your point.

Saying that PTI is not accomplishing things quickly doesn't mean that it should be made an excuse. It was just to say that things didn't go as planned because they don't have ultimate power. Things will change but with a slower pace now because even in the province they didn't come with ultimate power like PML-N in the center. And they had spent at least a month to keep the ministries or persuade the others to follow their vision if they want those ministries, because they had made claims in their manifesto. For the most part PTI is doing well and the future looks bright.

You have repeated yourself so read my first post here.

 

[Democratic]

Well for the most part every leader of every other party works on the wishes of the international forces. A great, brave, true and pro pakistan would seek help from others but not a master to slave manner, but on a mutual interest manner. Please see below How Nawaz reacted in the kargil war.

http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthre...-WATCH-every-pakistani&highlight=nawaz+sharif

I don't need to watch a documentary on Kargil to know what happened there. I have a far objective way to look into it so if you want to discuss it , open another thread for it and raise your points with objective proofs. You shall find me there.

 

[miafridi]

I don't need to watch a documentary on Kargil to know what happened there. I have a far objective way to look into it so if you want to discuss it , open another thread for it and raise your points with objective proofs. You shall find me there.

I don't say that the video is entirely correct. But even if half of it is correct about nawaz then this is not a good news.

 

[Democratic]

I don't say that the video is entirely correct. But even if half of it is correct about nawaz then this is not a good news.

How do you know which half of it is correct? Facts can not be evaluated through such propaganda documentaries.

 

[miafridi]

PML-N was a part of the central government for a few months. It was not PPP solely running central government but it was a collation government and PML-N was in to terms in a position of dictating the collation government as not only the coalition had outnumbered PML-N but all of its constituents were hostile towards PML-N. Rest of what you said is your emotional rhetoric of fairy-tales from the fairyland where Imran khan is the messiah and PTI is the gang of the messiah but it has nothing to do with the real world.

Are you sure you know about Pakistan Politics? They were in coalition government with PPP for 3 years and then after 3 years they decided to sit in the opposition And the timing was exactly the same when PTI was gaining popularity(which you term as emotional rhetoric but in politics, timing is the most important ingredient).

Punjab has five times the population of KPK so i again fail to understand your point.

I wasn't talking about population, I was talking about projects on the basis of which they were running their election campaign which cost no more than 15% of a budget of a year of Punjab.

 

[Akber Ali]

Apart from ik none of his other pti mna's are calling for change!!!

Thats what happens when you join corruptio

ik should leave parliament and join tuq or hes going to commit suicide because hes just doing a new u turn/broken promise everyday

 

[miafridi]

How do you know which half of it is correct? Facts can not be evaluated through such propaganda documentaries.

Logically the half that goes against NS seems correct. Clinton called him the greatest actor of the world for being a PM of a country who didn't know that there was a war building up in kargil, while the Agency of another country knew. The video shows him giving a speech to the army(now what would prompt a PM to go to a place like kargil to give them a speech specially with words like may siachen per isi kisam ki hawa dek raha hu?) Connect the dots in the video.

 

[Competent]

KPK has already been put on track of change, No corruption seen by the govt and his team where there were daily millions of wastage money during the previous govt. PTI has already introduced many reform in the province.

 

[Democratic]

Are you sure you know about Pakistan Politics? They were in coalition government with PPP for 3 years and then after 3 years they decided to sit in the opposition And the timing was exactly the same when PTI was gaining popularity(which you term as emotional rhetoric but in politics, timing is the most important ingredient).

You must be living on mars. PML-N ministers resigned from the central government on May 13 2008 just a few months after the formation of government when it became apparent that PPP is not interested in re-installing the deposed judges. Later in March 2009 Nawaz Sharif led the long march. Educate yourself before opening your mouth.

I wasn't talking about population, I was talking about projects on the basis of which they were running their election campaign which cost no more than 15% of a budget of a year of Punjab.

Budget is divided over the population so population is inclusive to budget.