My advice to Pakistani Talibans: throw away arms & terrorism

Re: My advice to Pakistani Talibans: throw away arms & terro

Salam be upon those who follow the True Guidance.

Do not fall prey to the media of Pakistan and the unbelievers. There is a war in Pakistan.... dont expect the media channels to portray anything in favor of the "enemy" The TTP have repetitively stated that they do not target "innocents" but rather the government, army and intelligence agencies of this country. They are a lawful target for Muslims, because they have left the fold of Islam by:
1) Aiding America against Islam
2) Fighting the Shariah
3) Not implementing the laws of Islam.

The fact that these things take a person out of the fold of Islam is one of the most basic principles found in the Quran, and if you dont know this, then you should study Islam for a week like you have studied the dunyah for 17 years.


How many of you have actually listened to the TTP leaders or read their statements the TTP? why do you trust the media and your army soaked in Muslim blood? isnt it clear they are puppets of the US?

American has always stated that they want the Pakistani people to understand that its their war, and not America. The only way they can do this is to make it seem that the TTP is against the people of Pakistan, and for this reason, they bomb markets and blame it on the TTP, while the TTP say they have not done these things.

The TTP and TTA are one organization fighting for you, the pakistani people, and all the other Muslims of the world. They are fighting for your afterlife, so you can live under the Shariah and go to Jannah. They are not puppets of the US, spread sin, nudity, dancing, singing, and manmade laws as is the government and army of this country.

Allah says in the Quran :
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"And fight them until their is no more disbelief, and all matters are for Allah."

In this ayah, Allah commands the Muslims to fight to make the Word of Allah (Islam) supreme, and to never give up until the Shariah is established. It does not tell us to fight for Pakistan, for democracy, for the US, for the philosophy of Jinnah, nor anyone else.

Inshallah the mujahideen will continue to fight until the Shariah is established, and all kufr is subject to the laws of Islam.

Please read and listen to the bayans of thr TTP, and dont fall prey to the media or your desires.

Here is an interesting link:

http://tajzia.wordpress.com/2010/02/22/ ... rspective/
 

Zeeshan Khan

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: My advice to Pakistani Talibans: throw away arms & terro

Saladin A said:
My appeal and request to the Pakistani Talibans if they are true Muslims is to throw away their weapons and join Dawah to spread peaceful message of Islam around the world by mouth and pen. I would like to say to these Talibans that they are not serving or helping Islam but have harmed and harming its image irreparably if they continued with their methods of terror and violence in Pakistan. They are killing innocent Muslims, destroying Pakistans infra-structure and economy, which is helping not only the enemies of Pakistan but also of Islam. The so called terrorists - Taliban have no cause but death and destruction and killing of as many Muslims and innocent citizens of Pakistan as possible.

In the modern age no arms, ammunition and destructive weapons can not intimidate, suppress or subdue other peoples. We have seen that the most powerful country in the world, USA, could not achieve it in Iraq and has failed miserably in Afghanistan. In 90s the Soviet Union failed to crush the Mujhadeens fighting to liberate their land and crush Communism. Zionist Israel has tried by killing over 1.5 million innocent Palestinians and razing their land to rubble but has failed; India has failed in the occupied Kashmir despite killing over one hundred thousand innocent Kashmiris. If the Taliban believed that they could terrorise Pakistanis, it would their biggest folly. The so-called Talibans terrorising innocent Pakistanis and killing them in thousands are not Muslims but the paid murderers, suicide bombers and terrorists acting for the Zionist Israel, India and the USA to disintegrate Pakistan and harm Islam.

Enemies of Islam did not allow Prophet Mohammed (SAW) and his followers to live in peace in Madinah. Just after one year in peace of their migration, a strong army of one thousand warriors descended upon Madinah to finish off Islam for ever. It was under these extremely hard conditions, when the existence of Islam and Muslims was at stake that under divine command Muslim were allowed to fight for the cause of their faith. Even in such trying conditions, they were made to abide by certain laws and regulations, in contrast to the established traditions, In war everything is fair. And fight in the cause of Allah against those who wage war against you, but do not transgress the limit, for verily, Allah does not love the transgressors (2:190).

Permission (to fight) is given to those against whom war is being waged and, verily, Allah has indeed the power to succour them. Those who have been driven from their homelands against all rights for no reason than their saying, Our Sustainer is Allah.
This clearly shows that Islamic war is defensive and can not be offensive. Prophet Mohammed (SAW) laid down strict rules of war that included prohibitions against the harming civilians, including women, children, elders and against destroying crops, trees and livestock.

Bridges between the people of Islam and those who fear Islam must be built and if we can achieve this, it would ease the proselytes to embrace Islam. If these Taliban are true Muslims, they should know that using terrorism will lead them to destruction. Finally, the Islam demands (1) humility of the heart (qalb) consequent on a feeling of the presence of the majesty and grandeur of Allah, (2) recognition of this superiority (Allah) and humbleness (of man) by means of appropriate words and deeds, (3) reverence to show our honour to somebody Magnificent, Supreme and bowing feeling the true sublimity of Allah and the humbleness of man.


@Saladin A: Finally a sane voice. I agree with you 100% that these demented militants need to throw away their weapons and give up chasing the goose they will never be able to hunt.
 

imran1431

Citizen
Re: My advice to Pakistani Talibans: throw away arms & terro

Conveying-Truth said:
Salam be upon those who follow the True Guidance.

Do not fall prey to the media of Pakistan and the unbelievers. There is a war in Pakistan.... dont expect the media channels to portray anything in favor of the "enemy" The TTP have repetitively stated that they do not target "innocents" but rather the government, army and intelligence agencies of this country. They are a lawful target for Muslims, because they have left the fold of Islam by:
1) Aiding America against Islam
2) Fighting the Shariah
3) Not implementing the laws of Islam.

The fact that these things take a person out of the fold of Islam is one of the most basic principles found in the Quran, and if you dont know this, then you should study Islam for a week like you have studied the dunyah for 17 years.


How many of you have actually listened to the TTP leaders or read their statements the TTP? why do you trust the media and your army soaked in Muslim blood? isnt it clear they are puppets of the US?

American has always stated that they want the Pakistani people to understand that its their war, and not America. The only way they can do this is to make it seem that the TTP is against the people of Pakistan, and for this reason, they bomb markets and blame it on the TTP, while the TTP say they have not done these things.

The TTP and TTA are one organization fighting for you, the pakistani people, and all the other Muslims of the world. They are fighting for your afterlife, so you can live under the Shariah and go to Jannah. They are not puppets of the US, spread sin, nudity, dancing, singing, and manmade laws as is the government and army of this country.

Allah says in the Quran :
???????? ??? ?? ???? ???? ????? ????? ??? ???

"And fight them until their is no more disbelief, and all matters are for Allah."

In this ayah, Allah commands the Muslims to fight to make the Word of Allah (Islam) supreme, and to never give up until the Shariah is established. It does not tell us to fight for Pakistan, for democracy, for the US, for the philosophy of Jinnah, nor anyone else.

Inshallah the mujahideen will continue to fight until the Shariah is established, and all kufr is subject to the laws of Islam.

Please read and listen to the bayans of thr TTP, and dont fall prey to the media or your desires.

Here is an interesting link:

http://tajzia.wordpress.com/2010/02/22/ ... rspective/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

jazakallah
 

Ammar isb

Councller (250+ posts)
Re: My advice to Pakistani Talibans: throw away arms & terro

I welcome the call for the Taliban to throw their arms and denounce violence as violence further breeds violence and it is never a solution. The use of drone attacks or the occupation does not justify the barbaric acts which further tarnish the images of Muslims.
 

Zaidi Qasim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: My advice to Pakistani Talibans: throw away arms & terro

Ammar isb said:
I welcome the call for the Taliban to throw their arms and denounce violence as violence further breeds violence and it is never a solution. The use of drone attacks or the occupation does not justify the barbaric acts which further tarnish the images of Muslims.

Who is justifying it ? Can you ask your brave Army to stop those drone attacks ? Don't twist the thing around.If violence beget Violence, then the party who continue to carry on that policy needed to check itself...The killing by using drone attacks are not Barbaric ?
 

Saladin A

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: My advice to Pakistani Talibans: throw away arms & terro

It should not be forgotten that Osama-bin-Laden helped the dim-hack, pea brain and gun-slinging President G W Bush win the second term in office by making a video on the eve of American election. The timing of that video was good enough to convert million of Americans who hated belligerent G W Bush to vote for him. It should not be ignored that Bin-Laden family was the best buddies and friends of G W Bush's father who was also the president of USA.

Pakistani Taliban are simply helping President Asif Ali Zardari and his most inept government to stay in power and possibly wining the next general election if they continued killing innocent men, women and children. Pakistanis are fed up seeing their mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters and children massacred and their assets destroyed by the barbaric acts of violence leashed by these so called Talibans. It such an ignominy that these so-called misguided and misled Talibans claim to be doing these barbaric acts and committing stomach churning atrocities on the innocent citizens of Pakistan for the cause of Islam is simply insulting the glorious and the most magnificent deen-Islam. It is such a shame and disgrace that they are doing the greatest harm and disservice to Islam so much so that the even the Pakistani do not vote for the religious parties and this is helping secularists and secular PPP get elected. This is exactly what the USA, Zionist Jews and Indian Hindu fundamentalists want that criminals, crooks, embezzlers and secular-minded people like Asif Ali Zardari lead the country, and the drone attacks would divide the Pakistani nation creating a civil disorder leading to anarchy in the country. Just look at broken-up Iraq as intended by the USA and Zionist Jews, and we should learn a lesson from the history and avoid repeating it in Pakistan.

The Quran forbids targeting of civilians and those who kill non-combatants are guilty of baghy, "armed transgression", a capital offence in Islamic law. These barbaric acts are not compatible with orthodox Islamic ideology, which cautions soldiers "in the way of Allah" to fight their enemies face to face without harming non-combatants, women or children and also forbids them to harm their homes, farms, orchards or livestock. And, if they willingly surrender, escort them to a place of safety at the peril of your lives so that no harm should come to them.
My appeal and request once again to the Pakistani Taliban is to please throw away your weapons and join Dawah to spread the peaceful message of Islam around the world.
 

Zaidi Qasim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: My advice to Pakistani Talibans: throw away arms & terro

Saladin A said:
It should not be forgotten that Osama-bin-Laden helped the dim-hack, pea brain and gun-slinging President G W Bush win the second term in office by making a video on the eve of American election. The timing of that video was good enough to convert million of Americans who hated belligerent G W Bush to vote for him. It should not be ignored that Bin-Laden family was the best buddies and friends of G W Bush's father who was also the president of USA.

Pakistani Taliban are simply helping President Asif Ali Zardari and his most inept government to stay in power and possibly wining the next general election if they continued killing innocent men, women and children. Pakistanis are fed up seeing their mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters and children massacred and their assets destroyed by the barbaric acts of violence leashed by these so called Talibans. It such an ignominy that these so-called misguided and misled Talibans claim to be doing these barbaric acts and committing stomach churning atrocities on the innocent citizens of Pakistan for the cause of Islam is simply insulting the glorious and the most magnificent deen-Islam. It is such a shame and disgrace that they are doing the greatest harm and disservice to Islam so much so that the even the Pakistani do not vote for the religious parties and this is helping secularists and secular PPP get elected. This is exactly what the USA, Zionist Jews and Indian Hindu fundamentalists want that criminals, crooks, embezzlers and secular-minded people like Asif Ali Zardari lead the country, and the drone attacks would divide the Pakistani nation creating a civil disorder leading to anarchy in the country. Just look at broken-up Iraq as intended by the USA and Zionist Jews, and we should learn a lesson from the history and avoid repeating it in Pakistan.

The Quran forbids targeting of civilians and those who kill non-combatants are guilty of baghy, "armed transgression", a capital offence in Islamic law. These barbaric acts are not compatible with orthodox Islamic ideology, which cautions soldiers "in the way of Allah" to fight their enemies face to face without harming non-combatants, women or children and also forbids them to harm their homes, farms, orchards or livestock. And, if they willingly surrender, escort them to a place of safety at the peril of your lives so that no harm should come to them.
My appeal and request once again to the Pakistani Taliban is to please throw away your weapons and join Dawah to spread the peaceful message of Islam around the world.

You tell Pakistani army not to change their role from an islamic army to a mercenary Army,stop providing assistance to Americans and killing its own people, the people of Pakistan will take care of these Talibans themselves. There is no large sermon needed what the Quran says about it, what is needed is to check the actions of the Pakistani Army and Government to see if they are contrary to the teaching of Islam or not .
 

Saladin A

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: My advice to Pakistani Talibans: throw away arms & terro

It is absurd to say that the brave men and women of Pakistan armed forces belong to a mercenary army because they are fighting against a foreign conspiracy to destroy Pakistan. I wish that the begging, boot-licking and toe-sucking PPP government of President Zardari comprehends the fact that our real enemies are the Zionist Jews, Indian Hindu fundamentalists and the Christian-right of America who are hell bent to destroy a nuclear Muslim country with the help of terrorists residing inside and outside Pakistan.

I wish that they have the common sense to know who is our friend and who is the foe. And, the USA is no bodys friend in the world but of the Zionist Israel and now of India.
 

Zaidi Qasim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: My advice to Pakistani Talibans: throw away arms & terro

Saladin A said:
It is absurd to say that the brave men and women of Pakistan armed forces belong to a mercenary army because they are fighting against a foreign conspiracy to destroy Pakistan. I wish that the begging, boot-licking and toe-sucking PPP government of President Zardari comprehends the fact that our real enemies are the Zionist Jews, Indian Hindu fundamentalists and the Christian-right of America who are hell bent to destroy a nuclear Muslim country with the help of terrorists residing inside and outside Pakistan.

I wish that they have the common sense to know who is our friend and who is the foe. And, the USA is no bodys friend in the world but of the Zionist Israel and now of India.


Absurdity is a reality. You do not need to close your eyes my friend. Believe me, I defended these forces all my life. But I think, we all have to accept the reality no matter how bitter it is.
 

furry87

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: My advice to Pakistani Talibans: throw away arms & terro

Zaidi i just have one question for you , have you asked the people of Swat , FATA, dir buner ,mingora whether they want illiterate armed men patrolling their streets and publically hanging people and flogging people ?? ...Would you like ur mother or daughter or sister to be uneducated ,sit at home and wear that awfull burqa that makes it hard to breath ???

Would you like to beated up everytime someone sees ur shaved ur beard ??
Please dont be stupid, the people of pakhtoonkwa never wanted these in their cities so who are you or me to impose the taliban on them. This has become a very complicated issue now as it is not just the mujahideen who are in the TTP now it is also foreigners and criminals and agents of other agencies.
 

Zaidi Qasim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: My advice to Pakistani Talibans: throw away arms & terro

furry87 said:
Zaidi i just have one question for you , have you asked the people of Swat , FATA, dir buner ,mingora whether they want illiterate armed men patrolling their streets and publically hanging people and flogging people ?? ...Would you like ur mother or daughter or sister to be uneducated ,sit at home and wear that awfull burqa that makes it hard to breath ???

Would you like to beated up everytime someone sees ur shaved ur beard ??
Please dont be stupid, the people of pakhtoonkwa never wanted these in their cities so who are you or me to impose the taliban on them. This has become a very complicated issue now as it is not just the mujahideen who are in the TTP now it is also foreigners and criminals and agents of other agencies.


Did you ever ask them if they like these drone attacks on their families and innocents ? I bet you never asked them that question since you know what the answer would be. The acts of these Taliban do not go without condemnation. I already stated my position on this on my previous postings.The question I am asking you and others are regarding the activities of Pakistani Army with the collaboration of Americans.What would you do when you know that your Generals allowed foreign intervention in your country and allow these attacks to take place with consent in which many innocents are also being killed intentionally.The fake Video was a prime example of this conspiracy. I guess you don't even admit that.
 

atensari

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