Muhajir Sooba

[Aslam Rao]

 

[Raaz]

اس بھینسے کو علیحدہ ہی کر دیں تو بہتر ہے ، بھتہ کھا کھا کر کیا حال ہو گیا ہے خبیث کا

ویسے یہ صرف ان کی گیڈر بھبکی ہے ، یہ لوگ علیحدہ ہوں گے نہیں .... علیحدہ ہو کر بھتہ کس سے لیں گے ؟؟؟

ان کو بلکہ کہنا چاہے کہ ہم تمہیں علیحدہ کر دیں گے تو ابھی پاؤں پکڑ لیں گے

 

[Husaink]

آخر یہ علیحدگی کی بات کرنے والے اکثر کالے اور بھینسے کی طرح موٹے کیوں ہوتے ہیں ؟

 

[A.G.Uddin]

اس بھینسے کو علیحدہ ہی کر دیں تو بہتر ہے ، بھتہ کھا کھا کر کیا حال ہو گیا ہے خبیث کا

ویسے یہ صرف ان کی گیڈر بھبکی ہے ، یہ لوگ علیحدہ ہوں گے نہیں .... علیحدہ ہو کر بھتہ کس سے لیں گے ؟؟؟

ان کو بلکہ کہنا چاہے کہ ہم تمہیں علیحدہ کر دیں گے تو ابھی پاؤں پکڑ لیں گے

آخر یہ علیحدگی کی بات کرنے والے اکثر کالے اور بھینسے کی طرح موٹے کیوں ہوتے ہیں ؟

Without making any personal attacks on this guy's physical appearance, I would simply say that the slogan of Sindh 2 will get dumped by Altaf Hussain's speeches and statements just like No. 2 from his .......


Moreover, Imran Khan nailed it during his Jalsa in Umarkot where one of the main points of his speech was that - Urdu Speakings and Sindhis don't hate each other, it's just political powers that create rifts and hatred between the two communities. And a poor citizen whether he's Muhajir/Urdu Speaking, Pathan/Pashtun, Punjabi or Sindhi , he always suffers.

My own thinking and understanding is that Sindh may indeed end up getting divided on administrative basis due to different density of population in Karachi and Hyderabad. Moreover if people in interior Sindh get educated and their lives go in a better direction then Urban-Rural and Urdu-Sindhi divide will eventually dissolve since better education makes a person rational and tolerant. So with educational and social evolution , even Sindhis living in Larkana will not mind with Sindh getting divided for better management.

 

[ZenoInTheZoo]

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[A.G.Uddin]

Alternate link: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v...type=2&theater

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Sir koshish ki aapki video aur posts padhne ki but my knowledge of Punjabi is as good as Quaid-e-Azam's knowledge of Urdu, Hindi and Gujarati. Haan samjha key yeh poem dil ko cheer ke rakhdeti hai.

Partition ke time buhat se beqasur Hindus aur Sikhs bhi maregaye Pakistan se India jate hue. I am also an Urdu Speaking but after further research I realized that many Memons, Kutchis/Gujaratis, Punjabis and Pathans had also suffered the consequences of the carnage. There could be few other minor communities too. Moreover, look at the demographics of both Punjabs after partition, Muslims continue to form a vote bank in U.P., Bihar and other parts of present day India but what's their strength and population in Indian Punjab and states of Haryana and Himachal Pradesh which were also part of East Punjab in 1947.

But MQM would never like to share such facts since their tactics and strength lie in over exaggeration and tampering with facts too.

 

[Imran Siddiqi]

Without making any personal attacks on this guy's physical appearance, I would simply say that the slogan of Sindh 2 will get dumped by Altaf Hussain's speeches and statements just like No. 2 from his .......


Moreover, Imran Khan nailed it during his Jalsa in Umarkot where one of the main points of his speech was that - Urdu Speakings and Sindhis don't hate each other, it's just political powers that create rifts and hatred between the two communities. And a poor citizen whether he's Muhajir/Urdu Speaking, Pathan/Pashtun, Punjabi or Sindhi , he always suffers.

My own thinking and understanding is that Sindh may indeed end up getting divided on administrative basis due to different density of population in Karachi and Hyderabad. Moreover if people in interior Sindh get educated and their lives go in a better direction then Urban-Rural and Urdu-Sindhi divide will eventually dissolve since better education makes a person rational and tolerant. So with educational and social evolution , even Sindhis living in Larkana will not mind with Sindh getting divided for better management.

The Question is How Many Centuries are required to achieve the goal of bringing Interior Sind at the same level as Urban Sindh. With The wadera Shai Rule in Sindh this will never happen. This SAAND is million times better person to represent Mohajirs than the current one :Taffu". This guy is not against Pakistan and is not an Indian agent. He has been demanding a province since 1978 and has never changed his stance. He is right, Mohajirs were one of the most educated group of people and MQM has taken that identity away from them and put them on the wrong track of violence.
Having said that, I believe that our first identity should be muslim and second Pakistani and then anything else. Peoples Party says "pakistan khappay" and everyone appreciates them. The fact is that they are one side of the sindhi black mail coin, G.M Syed and other Sindhi Separatist have been the other side. They go hand in hand. Altaf Hussain tried to copy them and failed miserably. MQM thinks that by blackmailing with a separate country they can get rights for mohajirs just like GM Syed and peoples party have. The problem is that Altaf Hussain is the Mohajir GM Syed but where is the Mohajir Peoples Party. I think This "Saand" in the Video could be that.
A very sad situation for Pakistan.

 

[ZenoInTheZoo]

Sir koshish ki aapki video aur posts padhne ki but my knowledge of Punjabi is as good as Quaid-e-Azam's knowledge of Urdu, Hindi and Gujarati. Haan samjha key yeh poem dil ko cheer ke rakhdeti hai.

Partition ke time buhat se beqasur Hindus aur Sikhs bhi maregaye Pakistan se India jate hue. I am also an Urdu Speaking but after further research I realized that many Memons, Kutchis/Gujaratis, Punjabis and Pathans had also suffered the consequences of the carnage. There could be few other minor communities too. Moreover, look at the demographics of both Punjabs after partition, Muslims continue to form a vote bank in U.P., Bihar and other parts of present day India but what's their strength and population in Indian Punjab and states of Haryana and Himachal Pradesh which were also part of East Punjab in 1947.

But MQM would never like to share such facts since their tactics and strength lie in over exaggeration and tampering with facts too.

Agree with each word of yours..........In countries like Pakistan, it was/is always a class struggle, from start to end, between haves and have-not and most of the leadership and guidance would come from educated communities/sections of society. Having a greater share of such educated people among the Urdu-speakers, they would more often provide that leadership.

But this route to attainment to rights and power was tough one. So, Altaf and other MQM ideologues saw an opportunity in the vacuum/anger created by the Quote system and prodded/helped by the ISI they picked up the flag of ethnicity and raped the class struggle!

 

[ZenoInTheZoo]

The Question is How Many Centuries are required to achieve the goal of bringing Interior Sind at the same level as Urban Sindh. With The wadera Shai Rule in Sindh this will never happen. This SAAND is million times better person to represent Mohajirs than the current one :Taffu". This guy is not against Pakistan and is not an Indian agent. He has been demanding a province since 1978 and has never changed his stance. He is right, Mohajirs were one of the most educated group of people and MQM has taken that identity away from them and put them on the wrong track of violence.
Having said that, I believe that our first identity should be muslim and second Pakistani and then anything else. Peoples Party says "pakistan khappay" and everyone appreciates them. The fact is that they are one side of the sindhi black mail coin, G.M Syed and other Sindhi Separatist have been the other side. They go hand in hand. Altaf Hussain tried to copy them and failed miserably. MQM thinks that by blackmailing with a separate country they can get rights for mohajirs just like GM Syed and peoples party have. The problem is that Altaf Hussain is the Mohajir GM Syed but where is the Mohajir Peoples Party. I think This "Saand" in the Video could be that.
A very sad situation for Pakistan.

Dont have much to disagree with u.

But there is thing called solidarity......ever heard about it? Solidarity with those who are not as blessed as we are. Muhajirs are fortunate that they have awareness of the rights......but those in the interior even dont have this luxury.......they deserve our helping hand.

For example why MQM do not shut down Karachi and Hyderabad completely in solidarity with the poor hari until lands of waderas are taken from them? This one stroke would earase all the bad memories of bitterness and anger against MQM and Pak would be an old pre-80s Pak.

 

[Imran Siddiqi]

Dont have much to disagree with u.

But there is thing called solidarity......ever heard about it? Solidarity with those who are not as blessed as we are. Muhajirs are fortunate that they have awareness of the rights......but those in the interior even dont have this luxury.......they deserve our helping hand.

For example why MQM do not shut down Karachi and Hyderabad completely in solidarity with the poor hari until lands of waderas are taken from them? This one stroke would earase all the bad memories of bitterness and anger against MQM and Pak would be an old pre-80s Pak.

I agree with you. The problem is that you are expecting it from MQM which is primarily a separatist movement. They will never do that.
Why a main stream national political party does not pick up the cause and MQM will be history in not time. Last election PTI proved that if we provide alternative people of karachi will opt for it. This however will not happen with lip service. We have to recognize the problems and publically and vocally address them. We all say today that we did not treat Bangalis properly but few people said it when it mattered.
Mujeeb was Altaf Hussain of bangladesh. If parties from west pakistan picked up the cause of fighting for their rights Begalis would have kicked Mujeeb out. They were more pakistani than the west pakistan. They actively participated in pakistan movement unlike majority of west pakistan. Whenever we will leave that vacum foreign powers will exploit that. We see similar exploitation in Balochistan today.
The real divide is haves and have nots I agree.

 

[Rizwan2009]

عجيب مہاجر ہيں جو مقيم ہي نہيں ہوتے مہاجر وفات پا چکے ان کي آنے والي نسليں تو مہاجر نہيں ليکن پھر بھي مہاجر صوبہ بنانے کي بات ہورہي ہے پتہ نہيں تم لوگ کب تک مہاجر رہو گے يہ سمجھ نہيں آتي

 

[aykay47]

yeh baat tou unn ko qaadri sahab he samjha saktay hain, after all inqilaab march main donon ikkathay thay na

عجيب مہاجر ہيں جو مقيم ہي نہيں ہوتے مہاجر وفات پا چکے ان کي آنے والي نسليں تو مہاجر نہيں ليکن پھر بھي مہاجر صوبہ بنانے کي بات ہورہي ہے پتہ نہيں تم لوگ کب تک مہاجر رہو گے يہ سمجھ نہيں آتي

 

[Rizwan2009]

yeh baat tou unn ko qaadri sahab he samjha saktay hain, after all inqilaab march main donon ikkathay thay na

جب وہ شير ببر جو آنے والا ہے آئے گا تو تمھيں ساري باتيں معلوم ہوجائيں گي جا کر شريفوں کو بتا دو جہاں بھاگ سکتے ہو بھاگ جاؤ اگر بھاگ بھي گئے تو وہ ايسا خوفناک پيچھا کرے گا کہ ياد رکھو گے

 

[aykay47]

achhaaaa???? aye gaaaaa???

Qaadri sahab ko kuchh naheen kahay ga shair? ya woh sirf Pak passport walon ko kahay ga, canadian passport ko shair kuchh naheen kehta na :P

جب وہ شير ببر جو آنے والا ہے آئے گا تو تمھيں ساري باتيں معلوم ہوجائيں گي جا کر شريفوں کو بتا دو جہاں بھاگ سکتے ہو بھاگ جاؤ اگر بھاگ بھي گئے تو وہ ايسا خوفناک پيچھا کرے گا کہ ياد رکھو گے

 

[Rizwan2009]

achhaaaa???? aye gaaaaa???

Qaadri sahab ko kuchh naheen kahay ga shair? ya woh sirf Pak passport walon ko kahay ga, canadian passport ko shair kuchh naheen kehta na :P

ہر وہ شخص جس نے پاکستان کو کسي بھي طرح لوٹا يا نقصان پہنچايا ہے اس کي گردن مارے گا

 

[سعد]

کراچی میں متحدہ والوں کو کوئی اپنا مکان کرایہ پر نہیں دیتا ... صوبہ کہاں سے ملے گا ان کو

 

[aykay47]

Qaadri sahab nay tou kuchh naheen loota na

unhon nay tou aik container he deya hai mulk ko, naheen? :P

ہر وہ شخص جس نے پاکستان کو کسي بھي طرح لوٹا يا نقصان پہنچايا ہے اس کي گردن مارے گا

 

[Rizwan2009]

Qaadri sahab nay tou kuchh naheen loota na

unhon nay tou aik container he deya hai mulk ko, naheen? :P

قادري ہو يا کوئي اور جس نے ملک کو تباہ کيا ہے اسے اس کا خميازہ بھگتناہوگا ان سب کے سروں کي فصل پک چکي ہے بس کٹنے کي دير ہے

 

[aykay47]

Sahee, yeh dialogue purana ho chuka hai, umeed hai nai naaron or nai dialogue kay saath haazir hon gay agli mrtaba, tab tak kay liay ijazat detay hain aap ko :P

قادري ہو يا کوئي اور جس نے ملک کو تباہ کيا ہے اسے اس کا خميازہ بھگتناہوگا ان سب کے سروں کي فصل پک چکي ہے بس کٹنے کي دير ہے

 

[jussep]

Aaj nahi tu kal Muhajir Soba ban kar rahay ga, InshaAllah