Mind blowing words of the Dervaish of the time!! [Zaid Hamid]

[haqiqat]

Did he just call MQM napaak and paleet????

yes he did he has got iron balls !!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Brave Heart]

pata nahi yeh darvesh sifat insaan zarourat key waqt kahan ghayeb ho jata hai, Raymond davis or OBL case ney in jaisey moqa parastoun ki sari asliyaat khol ker rakh di hai, yeh chala tha dehli main Pakistan ka jhanda lehraney, pehley apney ghar ki khabar to ley lo bhai josheeley dramey.

Kuch khuda ka khof karain Mod Sahab, Aik dervesh ko drama keh rahe, Ap ke kisi aur leader ko to kabhi ye taufeeq nahin huwi k Islamic history ya Allama Iqbal pe itni detail discussion kare. Aur kon hai jo Allama sb ke mazar pe ja ker Darood Sharif perhe aur Mulk ke liye dua kare. Kon hai jo itni haq aur sach baat kare. OBL pe iss ki asliyat kaise khul gyi, he took very brave stance , ab kya apni army aur ISI ko galiyan nakalay? Kya mulk ke haalaat ZH ki wajah se kharab hain jo ap uss ko ghar ki khabar lene ka tana maar rahe?

 

[strings]

yes he did he has got iron balls !!!!!!!!!!!!!

a man talking about another man's balls...!! sounds so GAY...!

btw, what happened to his own balls..? lohay ki lagwani per gayeen becharay ko :(

 

[Wadaich]

Kuch khuda ka khof karain Mod Sahab, Aik dervesh ko drama keh rahe, Ap ke kisi aur leader ko to kabhi ye taufeeq nahin huwi k Islamic history ya Allama Iqbal pe itni detail discussion kare. Aur kon hai jo Allama sb ke mazar pe ja ker Darood Sharif perhe aur Mulk ke liye dua kare. Kon hai jo itni haq aur sach baat kare. OBL pe iss ki asliyat kaise khul gyi, he took very brave stance , ab kya apni army aur ISI ko galiyan nakalay? Kya mulk ke haalaat ZH ki wajah se kharab hain jo ap uss ko ghar ki khabar lene ka tana maar rahe?

Brave Heart!
Don't get annoyed everybody speaks with reference to his/her background. ZH is a faqeer and giving azaan before the people who love life more than anything and hate death. Please refer to the Hadees Nabvi pbuh

لیکن رسول کریم صلی اللہ علیہ و علی آلہ وسلم کا یہ فرمان اُن پر بالکل پورا ہوتا ہوا نظر آتا ہے کہ (یُوشِکُ الاُمَمُ اَن تَدَاعَی عَلَیکُم کما تَدَاعَی الاَکَلَۃُ اِلی قَصعَتِہَا ) ( بہت قریب ہے کہ(کافر) قومیں تُم لوگوں کے خِلاف (ہر قِسم کی کراوائیاں کرنے کے لیے ) اِس طرح ایک دوسرے کو دعوت دیں گی جیسے کھانا کھانے والوں کو اُس کے حلقے (دستر خوان ) کی طرف دعوت دی جاتی ہے) کِسی(صحابی رضی اللہ عنہُ ) نے عرض کیا ::: کیا ہم لوگ اُس دِن (یعنی اُس وقت ) کم ہوں گے ؟::: تو رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ و علی آلہ وسلم فرمایا ( بَل اَنتُم یَومَئِذٍ کَثِیرٌ وَلَکِنَّکُم غُثَاء ٌ کَغُثَاء ِ السَّیلِ وَلَیَنزَعَنَّ اللَّہ من صُدُورِ عَدُوِّکُم المَہَابَۃَ مِنکُم وَلَیَقذِفَنَّ اللَّہ فی قُلُوبِکُم الوَہنَ ) ( (نہیں ) بلکہ تُم لوگ اُس دِن (یعنی اُس وقت )بہت زیادہ ہوگے لیکن تُم لوگ سیلاب کی (یعنی سیلاب کے پانی میں بہنے والی ) بُھس (خشک گھاس پھونس )کی طرح ہو گے ، اور ضرور اللہ تعالیٰ تُمہارے دُشمنوں کے دِلوں میں سے تُمہارا خوف اُتار دے گا اور ضرور اللہ تُم لوگوں کے دِلوں میں وھن ڈال دے گا ) تو کِسی(صحابی رضی اللہ عنہُ )نے عرض کِیا ::: اے اللہ کے رسول اوریہ وھن کیا ہے ؟ ::: تو رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ و علی آلہ وسلم فرمایا (حُبُّ الدُّنیَا وَکَرَاہِیَۃُ المَوتِ) ( دُنیا کی محبت اور موت سے کراہت (یعنی ناپسندیدگی)) سُنن ابن ماجہ /حدیث ٤٢٩٧/کتاب الملاحم /باب٥ ، السلسلۃ الصحیحۃ / حدیث ٩٥٨​

 

[gazoomartian]

Although Zaid Hamid has denounced his affiliation with Yousuf Kazab, still he has similar believes as Yousuf Kazab had. The problem is that most of Pakistanis have similar believes as Zaid Hamid. But he is still a Muslim, we can still hope that he might get hidayat one day and come to right path. Surely Zaid Hamid is not suitable for any religious post but he may be an asset in defense of Pakistan.

I am very hopeful if we continue to educated different Muslim sects and bring them towards Quraan and Sunnah we can eliminate sects and unite all Muslim into one banner of Quraan and Sunnah pbuh (authentic Hadeeths).

It is very clear that Allah does not like Muslims dividing into different sects. The Glorious Qur'an says :

إِنَّ الَّذِينَ فَرَّقُوا دِينَهُمْ وَكَانُوا شِيَعًا لَّسْتَ مِنْهُمْ فِي شَيْءٍ ۚ إِنَّمَا أَمْرُهُمْ إِلَى اللَّهِ ثُمَّ يُنَبِّئُهُم بِمَا كَانُوا يَفْعَلُونَ
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Yusuf Ali 159: As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects, thou hast no part in them in the least: their affair is with Allah. He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did. [Al-Qur'an 6:159]

جنہوں نے اپنے دین کو ٹکڑے ٹکڑے کر دیا اور کئی جماعتیں بن گئے تیرا ان سے کوئی تعلق نہیں اس کا کام الله ہی کے حوالے ہے پھر وہی انہیں بتلائے گا جو کچھ وہ کرتے تھے​

And you are carrying the agenda of maulvis at AMTKN.

What is you guys at AMTKN afraid of? Yousuf would have revealed something damaging to AMTKN?

 

[samar]

yes he did he has got iron balls !!!!!!!!!!!!!

r u sure ................(thumbsdown)(thumbsdown)

 

[samar]

Mind blowing lies of the behroopia of the time!! [Zaid Hamid]

zaid hamid chaelaas use fakeer = behroopia

Mind blowing lies of the beroopia of the time

 

[biomat]

Assalam-o-alaikum
I will not call him bad names or blame him as ISI or ARMY agent..
Three questions if he can give answer using his so called wisdom
#1) HOW & WHO LET RAYMOND DAVIS GO FREE.
#2) HOW & WHO LET BLACK WATER EMPLOYEE DE HAVEN GO FREE.
#3) HOW & WHO LET (so called) OSAMA STAYED IN ABBOTTABAD. OR HE WAS NOT THERE AT ALL.
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I have seen his response in programs, he was waiting for response from ISPR. Now ISPR have responded what is the reality.
Please use your wisdom, darvaishy & vision to answer these questions at once & as soon as possible.
As these questions have divided our nation morally & emotionally.
Even we are divided on this forum.
Any Zaid supporter can get his video response on these issues...
Jaza-k-ALLAH

 

[gazoomartian]

Why do we fight for/against zaid hamid?

We dont fight for or against Zaid Hamid.

We fight for his wisdom, his truth, what he says, about whom he says and always says aqapbuh. Jo shakhs nabi-e-karim pbuh ka naam ley hum usko kaisey rud kar saktey hain w/o any proof.

Recently a captured target killer told it all. He said there is a training center 5 hrs from New Delhi where MQM terrorist are being trained for target killings and the go-between man's name is Raj.

How much proof do we need what and whose agenda the MQM is on. May be MQMers have been brainwashed or may be they are scared that leaving MQM would earn a bullet in brain. BUT even if the PPP is very inclined to prosecute MQMers, the fear of losing govt coalition keeps them from doing it. If the PPP had least bit conscience and hubbul watani, they would give the nation's security a big tarjeeh over personal gain. But alas we havent had one since the two Qaeds - Jinnah and Liaquat.

aman al hafeez

 

[gazoomartian]

r u sure ................(thumbsdown)(thumbsdown)

why dont you go and hold his iron balls and find out yerself[hilar]

 

[SaadKnight]

We dont fight for or against Zaid Hamid.

We fight for his wisdom, his truth, what he says, about whom he says and always says aqapbuh. Jo shakhs nabi-e-karim pbuh ka naam ley hum usko kaisey rud kar saktey hain w/o any proof.

Recently a captured target killer told it all. He said there is a training center 5 hrs from New Delhi where MQM terrorist are being trained for target killings and the go-between man's name is Raj.

How much proof do we need what and whose agenda the MQM is on. May be MQMers have been brainwashed or may be they are scared that leaving MQM would earn a bullet in brain. BUT even if the PPP is very inclined to prosecute MQMers, the fear of losing govt coalition keeps them from doing it. If the PPP had least bit conscience and hubbul watani, they would give the nation's security a big tarjeeh over personal gain. But alas we havent had one since the two Qaeds - Jinnah and Liaquat.

aman al hafeez

Pehli baat MQM alag masla hai.

Nabi ka naam ulema bhi letay hain bas ulema boltay hain k namaz parho, ganay mat suno, ghair larkian na dekho, quran parho samjho waghera waghera, to ulema ko hum kioun rad kar rahay hain. Is hisab se to woh hadith theek hai k 1 dor aaye ga jab ulema ki koi naehin sunay ga. Mera khayal se abhi wohi dor chal raha hai.

 

[gazoomartian]

Pehli baat MQM alag masla hai.

Nabi ka naam ulema bhi letay hain bas ulema boltay hain k namaz parho, ganay mat suno, ghair larkian na dekho, quran parho samjho waghera waghera, to ulema ko hum kioun rad kar rahay hain. Is hisab se to woh hadith theek hai k 1 dor aaye ga jab ulema ki koi naehin sunay ga. Mera khayal se abhi wohi dor chal raha hai.

Ulema ko tum hi rad kartey hogey, main to hargiz nahi karta except for political maulvis. My father was a maulvi aslo, a darn good one at that. He was a mufassir, hakim, farsi ka ustad, school mein urdu teacher. When I think of him I think of Dr. Israr (merhoom o maghfoor). He taught me gulistan wa bostan-i-saadi when I was 12 only.

yes I do reject political mauliz or ulema. List is to long. All maulvis need to be investigated for their anti-pak activities and see if they receiving any money from the enemy for anti-Pak activities.

 

[SaadKnight]

Ulema ko tum hi rad kartey hogey, main to hargiz nahi karta except for political maulvis. My father was a maulvi aslo, a darn good one at that. He was a mufassir, hakim, farsi ka ustad, school mein urdu teacher. When I think of him I think of Dr. Israr (merhoom o maghfoor). He taught me gulistan wa bostan-i-saadi when I was 12 only.

yes I do reject political mauliz or ulema. List is to long. All maulvis need to be investigated for their anti-pak activities and see if they receiving any money from the enemy for anti-Pak activities.

Acha, aisay to mera cousin bhi Mufti hai . Polotical movioun k to main bhi khilaf hon, par Alhamdolliah ulema se doori nahein hon. Zaid Hamid koi Aalim nahein hai yeh yaad rakho aur is ka track record kharab hai. Main bhi kisi zamany mein fan tha par phir main ne bhi neutral position ikhtiar kar li. Mere pass is mamlay pe fazool behas karnay ka waqat nahein, tumharay pass waqat ho to meri yeh post parh lena:

http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthre...ER-OF-PAKISTAN&p=386426&viewfull=1#post386426

 

[samar]

why dont go and hold his iron balls and find out yerself[hilar]

[hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar]

uncle jee ye shaok zaid hamid k chealey hi kr saktey hain.......hmain maaf hi rakhain[hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar]

 

[Pakistani1947]

Why Zaid Hamid was trapped by Yousuf Kazab?

Why Zaid Hamid was trapped by Yousuf Kazab?

My Answer is: Because of his wrong Islamic believes.

Click here to read more about above article:

Some of Correct Islamic believes are:

1. Nobody has the knowledge of unseen (علم الغیب) : Say: None in the heavens and the earth knows the Ghaib (Unseen) except Allaah, nor can they perceive when they shall be resurrected [Quraan: al-Naml 27:65]

2. Prophet Muhammad (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) has died as declared by Khalifah Abu Bakr Siddique (RA) after the death of Prophet Muhammad (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم): "And Muhammad is no more than a messenger; the messengers have already passed away before him; if then he dies or is killed will you turn back upon your heels? And whoever turns back upon his heels!s, he will by no means do harm to Allah in the least and Allah will reward the grateful." (Quraan 3.144)

Allah says in Quraan Sura #39 (Az-Zumar), verse 30:

إِنَّكَ مَيِّتٌ وَإِنَّهُم مَّيِّتُونَ
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Yusuf Ali 30: Truly thou wilt die (one day), and truly they (too) will die (one day).

بے شک آپ کو بھی مرنا ہے اور ان کو بھی مرنا ہے
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Allah says in Qur'aan Sura #21 (Al-Anbiya), verse 34-35

وَمَا جَعَلْنَا لِبَشَرٍ مِّن قَبْلِكَ الْخُلْدَ ۖ أَفَإِن مِّتَّ فَهُمُ الْخَالِدُونَ
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Yusuf Ali 34: We granted not to any man before thee permanent life (here): if then thou shouldst die, would they live permanently?

اور ہم نے تجھ سے پہلے کسی آدمی کو ہمیشہ کے لیے زندہ رہنے نہیں دیا پھر کیا اگر تو مر گیا تو وہ رہ جائیں گے
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كُلُّ نَفْسٍ ذَائِقَةُ الْمَوْتِ ۗ وَنَبْلُوكُم بِالشَّرِّ وَالْخَيْرِ فِتْنَةً ۖ وَإِلَيْنَا تُرْجَعُونَ
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Yusuf Ali 35: Every soul shall have a taste of death: and We test you by evil and by good by way of trial. to Us must ye return.

ہر ایک جاندار موت کا مزہ چکھنے والا ہے اور ہم تمہیں برائی اوربھلائی سے آزمانے کے لیے جانچتے ہیں اورہماری طرف لوٹائے جاؤ گے
​

3. Only those person could claim with 100% confidence that they have seen the Prophet (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) in their dream who had seen him in wakefulness, i.e. in real life. Narrated Abu Huraira: I heard the Prophet (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) saying, Whoever sees me in a dream will see me in his wakefulness, and Satan cannot imitate me in shape. Abu Abdullah said, Ibn Sirin said, Only if he sees the Prophet in his (real) shape. (Sahih Bukhari Book #87, Hadith #122)

I had been a very strong supporter of Zaid Hamid until his affiliation with Yousuf Kazaab was revealed. I still believe that he is very sincere person. He is million times more patriotic than Zardari, Navaz and Altaf. We need leaders like Zaid Hamid.

All I am trying to say that due to some of his wrong believes which are against Quraan and Sunnah (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) he was fooled by Yousuf Kazab. I have seen Zaid's video he might have realized his past mistakes and denounce his affiliation with Yousuf Kazab. So the point I want to make is that if an intellectual like Zaid Hamid is fooled by Yousuf Kazab what about poor innocent and Jahil people.

It is very important to have correct Islamic believes otherwise there are very serious implications. For example, the correct Islamic believe is that we cannot claim with 100% confidence that we have seen Prophet Muhammad (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) in a dream. In fact, the Bukhari hadith says that whoever sees Muhammad (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) in a dream has seen him in wakefulness. Since none of us have seen him in wakefulness, we cant claim with 100% confidence that we have seen him (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) in a dream.

Narrated Abu Huraira: I heard the Prophet saying, "Whoever sees me in a dream will see me in his wakefulness, and Satan cannot imitate me in shape." Abu 'Abdullah said, "Ibn Sirin said, 'Only if he sees the Prophet in his (real) shape.'" (Sahih Bukhari, Book #87, Hadith #122)

The correct believe is only Allah informs his Messengers, whenever he wants to, via Wahee (وحی) about Ghaib. Hence Prophet Muhammad (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) would not know about Ghaib (غیب) unless Allah informs him (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم). Following Hadeeth narrates once Bibi Aisha (Razi Allah Talah Unhun) was wrongly accused and Prophet Muhammad (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) were very worried and had no way of knowing the truth until Allah revealed the Verses (concerning the matter):

Narrated Masruq: I asked Um Ruman, 'Aisha's mother about the accusation forged against 'Aisha. She said, "While I was sitting with 'Aisha, an Ansari woman came to us and said, 'Let Allah condemn such-and-such person.' I asked her, 'Why do you say so?' She replied, 'For he has spread the (slanderous) story.' 'Aisha said, 'What story?' The woman then told her the story. 'Aisha asked, 'Have Abu Bakr and Allah's Apostle heard about it ?' She said, 'Yes.' 'Aisha fell down senseless (on hearing that), and when she came to her senses, she got fever and shaking of the body. The Prophet came and asked, 'What is wrong with her?' I said, 'She has got fever because of a story which has been rumored.' 'Aisha got up and said, 'By Allah! Even if I took an oath, you would not believe me, and if I put forward an excuse, You would not excuse me. My example and your example is just like that example of Jacob and his sons. Against that which you assert, it is Allah (Alone) Whose Help can be sought.' (12.18) The Prophet left and then Allah revealed the Verses (concerning the matter), and on that 'Aisha said, 'Thanks to Allah (only) and not to anybody else." (Sahih Bukhari, Book #55, Hadith #602)

The correct believe is that the Silsila of Wahee (وحی) has been discontinued since the death of Prophet Muhhamd (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم). Hence anybody who claims that he has revelation from Allah about Ghaib (غیب) is Kazzaab (کذاب).

There are very serious implication of holding wrong belief is that many hopefuls, Durwaish, Peer, Wali, have launched their religious careers (fan following) by making claim that they have the knowledge of unseen (غیب). Almost all our Sufi saints have established their credibility, and their thrones, by doing this. They first claim to have seen the Prophet (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم), then they say they are in direct contact with him, then they claim they have been divinely inspired, and then they build their economic empires which they leave to their successors.​

 

[karachiwala]

Re: Mind blowing lies of the behroopia of the time!! [Zaid Hamid]

zaid hamid chaelaas use fakeer = behroopia

Mind blowing lies of the beroopia of the time

My dear no matter what proof you bring these people will always only believe in Zaid Hamid. There are people on this forum who have even defended yusuf kazzab of all the things. I would like to know from them now that they claim zh has denounced yusuf kazzab (against as per their saying - no proof has yet been provided) then what about all the commotion they created saying yusuf was called kazzab by deobandis, or court had no right to do that or who came forward against yusuf from amongst the ulema?? My questions to all those love birds of zh is what now when as you say he has denounced him where does your stand of love with kazzab go???

 

[karachiwala]

[hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar]

uncle jee ye shaok zaid hamid k chealey hi kr saktey hain.......hmain maaf hi rakhain[hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar]

You can always use a hammer on them to see if what uncle gee is saying is correct!!!!

 

[Jshah]

This person doesn't know even alphabets of Islam. The following sentences leads him to Kuft:

- Allah kea mezaj ko samjho
- Allah ko us waqt faraq parta hay jab mulk ka ashrafya kumrah ho jata hay. Allah ko faraq parta hay?
- Paksitan is madinah e sani ? My God, I cannot here him any further.

Those who don't know anything about Islam, are the Scholars of Islam in Pakistan?

God bless this nation ?

 

[gazoomartian]

pata nahi yeh darvesh sifat insaan zarourat key waqt kahan ghayeb ho jata hai, Raymond davis or OBL case ney in jaisey moqa parastoun ki sari asliyaat khol ker rakh di hai, yeh chala tha dehli main Pakistan ka jhanda lehraney, pehley apney ghar ki khabar to ley lo bhai josheeley dramey.

yeh drama jo aap ZH ko kehtey hian woh hukmranon key aur Obama key dramey sey to 1000 darja behter hai. Aisa drama jis main truth ho, josh ho, hosh ho aur aqeeda ho usko drama nahi bulkeyhaqiqat ketey hain.

haan agar aapney MQM join kar li hai to phir hum aap kich nahi kah saktey

waisey moderator key mouth sey aisey lehjey kuch achey nahi lagtey. Of curse it is a different thing if you have quit siasat.pk

 

[gazoomartian]

This person doesn't know even alphabets of Islam. The following sentences leads him to Kuft:

- Allah kea mezaj ko samjho
- Allah ko us waqt faraq parta hay jab mulk ka ashrafya kumrah ho jata hay. Allah ko faraq parta hay?
- Paksitan is madinah e sani ? My God, I cannot here him any further.

Those who don't know anything about Islam, are the Scholars of Islam in Pakistan?

God bless this nation ?

why do you have ? mark after this?