Karachi Night Club . Mummy Daddy's and Burgers enjoying western types of night clubs .

[BrotherKantu]

True sign of a fanatic: He would regress everything and every topic to a mother, sister and daughter issue.

Dude, what is this sick obsession with mothers, sisters and daughters?

Western societies have learnt the civility that rather than caging women in 'burqas' - they treat women outside of family like they would want their family members to be treated. This is a civil way. Caging women like poultry IS NOT.

Of course, bad things happen here too. They will always happen in any human society, even in a small percentage at least. But caging women like poultry-farm stock is hardly a solution.

Please tell me something - if a teenage boy hangs out with a girl and behaves with her the same way he wants his sister to be treated by her friend - what is wrong in that? It's the perfect scenario of 'do unto others..'

But no, fanatics of Fundamentalistan will NOT be at ease until they have every women caged up like some poor poultry-farm lot.

and you, nvra911 how many times I told you to go and see a psychiatrists. Your brain is completely fuc**d up. I feel sorry for your parents.
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[nvra911]

...Here In around me people pay $150 a month per kid to teach them Holy Qur'an on Skype...​

And this is my point. Islam today is a business. And profitable at that too. See: Farhat Hashmi or Zakir Naik for example.

 

[nvra911]

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I have attended many marriage ceremonies where Gents and ladies sit separately. You learn the value of something when you lose it.​

Dude please explain to me the huge hidden value that lies in gender segregation?!? I'm lost. I thought we have to move forward from the ignorance and not get back to stuff like gender segregation.

 

[Sharjil Ahmad]

So, hold on a second. Let me ask you something: You're from Scotland. There, everyone has social liberties, unlike Pakistan. Liberty of dress, ideas, courtship and almost all aspects of social life. Do you think that the girls who wear mini-skirts and drink are immoral and bad? What have you done about it other than talk and talk. I will come to you to where ever you are up North and then please allow me to make a video of saying what you mean. I want you to say that alcohol drinking and mini-skirt wearing girls are wrong in your opinion and you want to stop it because you think is it immoral.

I really want to help the authorities snub the Islamists' craziness in the UK and getting you would be a good starting point.

Dude, it's fanatics like you who're poisoning the society in the UK. Your 1400 year old stuck mentality encourages the radicalization like this news story here or the woolwich attacker.

Whoeever you are, and where ever you live, contact me, and bring your camera. And I will say it in front of your camera whatever you asked this person to say. Secondly, if covering ones self is Islamic Craziness, then YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ISLAM.
You cannot generalize people with examples of some crazy mentally sick dude who himself thought of pulling a stunt. And then Islamic extremism got labeled. Come on..... You know the truth too, just create some courage to face it.

 

[Imranpak]

So, hold on a second. Let me ask you something: You're from Scotland. There, everyone has social liberties, unlike Pakistan. Liberty of dress, ideas, courtship and almost all aspects of social life. Do you think that the girls who wear mini-skirts and drink are immoral and bad? What have you done about it other than talk and talk. I will come to you to where ever you are up North and then please allow me to make a video of saying what you mean. I want you to say that alcohol drinking and mini-skirt wearing girls are wrong in your opinion and you want to stop it because you think is it immoral.

I really want to help the authorities snub the Islamists' craziness in the UK and getting you would be a good starting point.

Dude, it's fanatics like you who're poisoning the society in the UK. Your 1400 year old stuck mentality encourages the radicalization like this news story here or the woolwich attacker.

Fanatics like me when I am not even a practising Muslim:lol: :lol: :lol:. UK is not an Islamic country so we can not call them hypocrites in fact they are not even Christian. I disagree with flesh exposure but would never harm any westerner who dresses in such a way as living here I accept the British law. Islam indeed is a 14000 ideology and will remain that for eternity so take it or leave it, the point is that why call yourself Islamic like Pakistan yet do everything that the faith disapproves off?

You are obviously confused between liberalism/atheism and so-called Islamic Pakistan. The west is true to itself where as Pakistan is hypocritical.

 

[Sharjil Ahmad]

True sign of a fanatic: He would regress everything and every topic to a mother, sister and daughter issue.

Dude, what is this sick obsession with mothers, sisters and daughters?

Western societies have learnt the civility that rather than caging women in 'burqas' - they treat women outside of family like they would want their family members to be treated. This is a civil way. Caging women like poultry IS NOT.

Of course, bad things happen here too. They will always happen in any human society, even in a small percentage at least. But caging women like poultry-farm stock is hardly a solution.

Please tell me something - if a teenage boy hangs out with a girl and behaves with her the same way he wants his sister to be treated by her friend - what is wrong in that? It's the perfect scenario of 'do unto others..'

But no, fanatics of Fundamentalistan will NOT be at ease until they have every women caged up like some poor poultry-farm lot.

LOL...... You are one sick person..... And i'm confident about that.
Talking about western civilization. Talking about women's rights in west Talking about caging women......LOL man LOLLLLL......
I thought of putting up some points of argument, but you know what....... I figured its useless. Because its like banging my head against a wall. Guess what...... I can safely say, you know nothing about neither Islam, nor Western Civilization. Lemme just say one thing.... If there is one civilization, that gave women their rights last, that is you western civilization. As I said, you know nothing about western civilization. Read some history books, and then we can talk.

 

[Sharjil Ahmad]

Fanatics like me when I am not even a practising Muslim:lol: :lol: :lol:. UK is not an Islamic country so we can not call them hypocrites in fact they are not even Christian. I disagree with flesh exposure but would never harm any westerner who dresses in such a way as living here I accept the British law. Islam indeed is a 14000 ideology and will remain that for eternity so take it or leave it, the point is that why call yourself Islamic like Pakistan yet do everything that the faith disapproves off?

You are obviously confused between liberalism/atheism and so-called Islamic Pakistan. The west is true to itself where as Pakistan is hypocritical.

Well said ! These people are surely confused.
Want a piece of everything yet own nothing !

 

[desicad]

True sign of a fanatic: He would regress everything and every topic to a mother, sister and daughter issue.

Dude, what is this sick obsession with mothers, sisters and daughters?

Western societies have learnt the civility that rather than caging women in 'burqas' - they treat women outside of family like they would want their family members to be treated. This is a civil way. Caging women like poultry IS NOT.

Of course, bad things happen here too. They will always happen in any human society, even in a small percentage at least. But caging women like poultry-farm stock is hardly a solution.

Please tell me something - if a teenage boy hangs out with a girl and behaves with her the same way he wants his sister to be treated by her friend - what is wrong in that? It's the perfect scenario of 'do unto others..'

But no, fanatics of Fundamentalistan will NOT be at ease until they have every women caged up like some poor poultry-farm lot.

.............rock baby rock.........

 

[nvra911]

The west is true to itself where as Pakistan is hypocritical.

Thank you. Apology accepted.

 

[nvra911]

.............rock baby rock.........

Did I, just, write some music for your ears?

hehehe

 

[Sharjil Ahmad]

And this is my point. Islam today is a business. And profitable at that too. See: Farhat Hashmi or Zakir Naik for example.

Give me a break.....
It might be business for some, yet a valuable asset for others.
Point is, those who are being payed, might have it as business, but those who are paying, value it alot.
I never said everyone acts the same way as i mentioned. I gave an example of a few. A few of those, who yet love who they are. Unlike you. Who don't even know who they are. Trying to be something they can never be.
And I didn't pull this information from some fictional source my friend. Open your eyes and you will see. Where there are thousands of muslim children adopting such modernism, the same place there are children who are becoming Aalims. So, I dont know where you get ur info. Just open your eyes. And i dont curse you, the way you do to others. Because I hope and I pray that one day ALLAH gives you the right path. As I pray for myself.

 

[nvra911]

...but you know what....... I figured its useless...

Happens dude. When there are no arguments to make - only fanatic ramblings. It happens.

...If there is one civilization, that gave women their rights last, that is you western civilization...

Oh yeah sure, unlike some religion which has an organised way of snubbing punishment for rape by adding the the impossible errand of four witnesses. Very civilised then and very civilised now. Hats off to the liberty that religion has brought to women.

In the 'immoral West' if a woman is raped, the Police's investigation based on circumstancial evidence gets the rapist punished.

In 'moral Pakistan' if a woman is raped, and if she dare approach the Police, above everything she has to bring 4 witnesses or take punishment of بہتان.

*facepalm*

 

[desicad]

Did I, just, write some music for your ears?

hehehe

haha.......whatever it was, was very rhythmic.........(bigsmile)

 

[Sharjil Ahmad]

Happens dude. When there are no arguments to make - only fanatic ramblings. It happens.


Oh yeah sure, unlike some religion which has an organised way of snubbing punishment for rape by adding the the impossible errand of four witnesses. Very civilised then and very civilised now. Hats off to the liberty that religion has brought to women.

In the 'immoral West' if a woman is raped, the Police's investigation based on circumstancial evidence gets the rapist punished.

In 'moral Pakistan' if a woman is raped, and if she dare approach the Police, above everything she has to bring 4 witnesses or take punishment of بہتان.

*facepalm*

Mr. Smart:
I never defended Pakistan. If you cannot understand what the argument is about, don't bother answering.

 

[nvra911]

...I myself had the good luck of studying from 2 well-renouned young scholars...

OMG - I was right. I am talking to a real fanatic. *feels privileged in a weird way*

...not the modernism that makes kids naked...

No, no. No one wants the kids naked anywhere either. Careful with these Freudian Slips, dude.

...And by the way, the percentage of Muslims that attend mosques in my locality, and i'm talking about New York & New Jersey...

I bet you're making the best use of your immigration status. Keep it up. I wish well to you sincerely.

 

[nvra911]

...I happened to teach at a Sunday school ... more than 80% of the muslim children ... attend the school ... of those families where the adults do not even step inside a masjid ... And the masjid does NO advertisement... People come and beg the management to make it happen ... its a great business ... these kids are the best in studies ... win different competitions.

My god. This fiction just keeps getting better and better. So when are we expecting this new crop of Super-Scientist-Every-Competition-Winning-Sportsmen-Muslims? Please let me know becuase in last 900 years or so, hardly any scientific discovery or progress has been made by Muslims and in the modren world today, nothing except for headache and middle eastern oil is being contributed by the Muslim world - and this is NOT an achievement, I tell you.

Please don't tell me to wait just a few years for these super-Muslim-kids-of-the-future. Please don't...

 

[Sharjil Ahmad]

OMG - I was right. I am talking to a real fanatic. *feels privileged in a weird way*



No, no. No one wants the kids naked anywhere either. Careful with these Freudian Slips, dude.



I bet you're making the best use of your immigration status. Keep it up. I wish well to you sincerely.

haha..... So, finally you had no argument huh.....
Dude, dont talk **** if you dont know what you re talking about. Just say IMO, and no one will object. Because we know how sick your opinions are. But, if you know nothing about reality, dont make it a general case. You know nothing about, neither Islam, nor the Western Civilization. There is NOTHING in this civilization that had not been taught by our Islam. Difference is, us muslims have deteriorated from the right path, and we are lost in the mix. We lost our identity, and we ourselves are to blame. And now we are labeled with the names of people such as that French fool. And then naysayers like you get an opportunity to bs.
Learn something about West before you make your case. Just an advice.
And yes, I'm making the most of my status here, as I am more educated than you are (I can tell without even asking), and I'm making decent enough money to support myself well. And paying a lot of taxes to the place I live in. And so, i fall into the category of the best citizens here. Except that I dont attend night clubs such as you. Makes me no worst than you.

 

[Imranpak]

Thank you. Apology accepted.

What apology!!!?:lol: :lol::lol:.

 

[Badmaash]

Really? Is it 10 years old? How do you know that. Please let me know. I'm interested in knowing what's happening in Karachi these days.

Don't you read/watch news on TV? Target killing, Batta khori, Chori Bazari is rife now rays in Karachi.:13:

 

[Username]

Dont be child. just learn how culture and fashions goes and work... always fasion and culture come from top to down..

All fashion come in any society from hollywood.
same way all culture come from rich socities to less rich society,

culture is like water it flows from hight to down. this music culture will become part of pak, as we move towards indusltraiztion and urbanization.

these rich people of karachi are not from mars they r pakistani..

y these people adopt this bcz they know this is in fasion and part of rich socities, so have to follow them, it is human nature
in this video u showed poor pakistni also.. trust me if these poor pakistani were rich they will adopt this also.. there is always exceptions. but i m talking for majority..

remember both poor and rich people in this video r pakistani.. difference is industralization and urbanization..

I have few submissions for you guys consideration..

1. First of all never think that free sex and music culture symbolizes West. Since the advent of history MOST people on this earth been practicing free sex from life in Caves to the Roman Empire and Cloe Patra and from the Ignorant Arabs before Prophet SAW upto now. But there has always been People who dint find it right and tried to stick to the Conservativeness via Religion. So this is not something we should attribute only to the West because People in Africa and east Asia have been practicing free sex since ages. As a matter of fact only Muslims dominated countries despise it for religious reasons otherwise its practiced widely all over the world and it has nothing to do with the Rich and the Poor or blah blah.

2. Secondly its not Urbanization or Industrialization that results in such social evils, its in fact the absence of a religion that gives rise to such social practices. Have a look at the world atlas and you come to know that Religion is faded away and its dominated by the Instinctual Needs .. for sex and alcohol etc...merging some religious concepts that favor such life style with the culture..(for example Jesus died with the burden of all our sins we did or will do...... or like Jews says we are the best nation and God favors us etc), thus using the concept of religion as a scapegoat for sins.

3. Thirdly, the term Culture is always misinterpreted by most of us. Culture is not limited to only dancing and music, it has a very wide spectrum its how we live a life. It includes our food types and habits, our language, our framework of understanding, our dress, our interpersonal relations, our social values, the role of gender, Ethics, social structure, Literature, Ideologies, even Geography, Music, Taboos, Festivals etc etc etc. Meaning what was showed in this video is not Pakistani culture, neither Culture is such a soft phenomenon which can so easily be molded.

4. Continuing the above point, we have had British and almost all European Nations in Indian Sub Continent.. what happened? Did they change our Culture? Nope.... despite their best efforts to change our ideology and culture they couldn't succeed to change the Culture of the Masses and eventually they had to leave. Even when Goras left we had dance floors and Alcohol Cabinets as part of houses in Pakistan...specially in Army which finally was banned by Zia ul Haq.. so what? did we become like Goras? or did we accept the Western Culture? Nope. In fact situation is much better now as we have contained such social evils to a few so called Night Clubs which are kind of hidden and still considered taboo. Moreover Culture never travels downward. Popular Culture lives among Masses not among the affluent ones. Rich or Upper class in all societies has a distinct and unique culture which never matches the popular culture of the masses so if some people form a night club in Pakistan its not something to worry about.

4. Fourthly, I dont even think its a proper night club.. shown above. There were a few people smoking as a fashion, nobodys dancing, no excessive use of Alcohol, no crazy kisses, no short clothes almost naked bodies etc etc. These people have named it as Night Club just to satisfy their Status Conscious sense. Pretending these guys have a different lifestyle than the damned masses. It can clearly be seen in the statement of that Kaali dj at the start who CLAIMED this is not for the masses. Means these night club activities are for Special People, clearly spitting out her superiority complex. We can follow Maslows Hierarchy of Needs or the Group Dynamic and Affiliation Model to understand the intentions behind such Funny Desi Night Clubs. Even those who were present dont seem to have such lifestyle they were probably there for it sounds great to be in a "night club". Now a days open a brothel house in Pakistan and name it a night club, you would find plenty of people coming there as the numbers of Prostitutes is ever rising in Pakistan, due to many different reasons mostly economic.

Lastly, i just wanna say that we have a very strong religion and religion in Pakistan shapes the culture of Pakistanis to a greater extent so we neednt worry about such activities or such foreign cultural elements. I in fact found it a bit funny as they called it a night club :P

but yeah i'm quite concerned on the rising trend of prostitution in Pakistan which is right now the biggest social problem in Pakistan.