JI responds to ISPR statment :Press Conference video

coolhaider

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: جماعت اسلامی کا رد عمل


I have already answered you,please read again and provide evidence when and where he opposed.
He just opposed some persons around Qaid Azam(RH) and the time proved truth,once Qaid said I have coins in my pocket with no value.
madoodi ka beta to kuch aur kehta hai
wo to manta hai k hum pakistan ko nahi mantay
 

famamdani

Minister (2k+ posts)
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awaiskhantanoli

MPA (400+ posts)
Aik bat to tay h k , Army should not interfere in the democratic govt policies. Our policy is still governed by Army and which is not acceptable at all. You all must have justifications but jo bat galat h wo galat h.

Bilkul sai kaha janab..aur US dollars ke liay logon key jan lena be ghalat ha...
 

mrk123

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Both are hypocrites, JI has been a part and parcel of Army dictatorship and has went out of its way to defend Army whenever it committed illegal coups against elected governments. In-fact it was instrumental in overthrowing BB's govt in 90's at the nod of establishment. So when JI complains of Army interfering into politics its a freaking hilarious.

Like I said earlier, army unlike the political parties of Pakistan does not let any slight to its prestige (? lol) go unpunished. JI should be extremely careful now because if you look at the recent 'strategy' it seems army is all set to promote TuQ as its political prostitute and for supporting him an alternate force is being created which primarily consists of Brailvi and Ahle Tashee Ulema plus dime a dozen Mushaikh (meaning the national narrative so to speak will no longer be Deobandi but Brailvi). Little do these Ulema realize that they will be used and abused in the same manner the last prostitutes were used (that much is certain because army is not touching its Indian 'assets') but by now I agree to the notion itself, TTP will do no good but drag Pakistan another fifty years back and looking at India we must shape up right now.

The only problem I see is that TuQ will be used to bring down another elected Govt and that is unacceptable for me (I have no problem if TuQ is promoted to the degree that he wins in general elections which will atleast keep the system intact). Still if we understand the dynamics of power struggle, Army would not allow democracy to mature as it will sooner or later challenge its absolute hold on Pakistan. Thus a coup will be much more likely.

Agree that both sides are to be blamed in different theaters. If we just use the sheer scale as a metric to judge then the Talibans take the cake.
The duplicitous role of the armed forces has made things very complicated. Military establishment is good if it fights the extrernal threat deliberately, effectively and judiciously. They are good if they fight against any internal threats to the state like the talibans. But the same military is bad if it create proxy groups to fight unnecessary wars under the guise of strategic depth or if it commits excesses when it fights the insurgency in Baluchistan or if it dabbles and interferes in Pakistan's political landscape.

The problem with most of us is that things can only be black and white. People just dont want to see any shades of gray even if it stares right at them..

I believe you give too much weight to Qadri. He is just a pawn and will always be used as a counter weight but never as the main player.
 

usmanaslam

MPA (400+ posts)
Munawar Hassan Statement .....

Puppet media and politicians are both playing game on it so pplz forget the drones and start playing shaheed shaheed on puppet media and this proof that couple of our generals are also puppet......

Where was ISPR and puppet media when altaf barks .... anp hold meeting on anti Pakistan movements when Hussain Haqni and Asma Janhghir barks on Pakistan Army .....

We request PTI and Imran Khan ..... please stop NATO supplies ...... we will stand for Pakistan ....
 
L

Liberal Fascist

Guest
Re: Munawar Hassan Statement .....


چار دِن پہلے تک یہی میڈیا جب دِن رات ملالہ ملالہ کھیلتا تھا تو نہ پپٹ تھا نہ دجالی بلکہ عین اِسلامی اور حلالی
تھا۔ تب تو ہر طرف راوی چین ہی چین لِکھتا تھا، نہ دھماکے ہوتے تھے نہ ڈرون حملے۔ اُمتِ مُسلمہ کے چودہ سو سالوں کے ہر درد کی وجہ (ملالہ ) دریافت ہو گئی تھی جِسکے تذکروں سے اخبارات کے صفحات سجے تھے، ٹی وی سکرینیں روشن تھیں۔
 

hans

Banned
Re: Munawar Hassan Statement .....

May I ask what the diffrence in the following parties .....
Al-Qaeda, Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP) & Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ) & Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat (ASWJ), Takfiri Deobandis & Salafists & Kharijites, Taliban, Ji, PTI.... etc etc
 

khalilkhan

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Munawar Hassan Statement .....

​pakistan ki aawam sari mehngai pani bijli sab bhool gay sara media awam ki taklifon ko bhool gaya yeh kia drama machaya hoa hai jin lougon ke jawan bete shaheed hoe hain uon lougon ke sath drame baazi kar rahe hain kitni taklif hogi or yeh media mulk main afra tafri phelaraha hai shaheed ka darja sirf allah hi janta hai
 

Believer12

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Munawar Hassan Statement .....

محترم آپ جماعتی ھیں اسلیے انصاف کی توقع آپ سے عبث ھے آپکی گندی فطرت تو ھر دور میں سب سے بالا رھی ھے
آپ نے پانچ لائنز کے تھریڈ میں پونے پانچ لائنیں محض گالم گلوچ سے بھر دیں مثلا میڈیا اور آی ایس پی آر پپٹ، عاصمہ اور حقانی بھونکتے ھیں، جنرل پپٹ ھیں،
آپ کھنا چاھتے ھیں کہ ڈرون اٹیکس سے توجہ ھٹانے کیلیے یہ شھید کی بحث چھیڑ دی گئ ھے۔ بالکل درست لکھا ھے
تو چلیے جس نے یہ بحث چھیڑی آپکی وساطت سے اسکے انڈین کٹھ پتلی ھونے کا ثبوت ھمیں مل گیا۔انڈیا میں مٹھائیاں بٹ رھی ھیں۔کہ اب کوی پاکستانی اپنی قوم کیلیے شھید نھیں ھوگا
 

Fursan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Munawar Hassan Statement .....

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hawkeyeblue

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Munawar Hassan Statement .....

The 'Shaheed" controversy is yet another drone to confuse public opinion and sabotage and deviate constructive debate how to give "Peace a Chance"



 

Believer12

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Munawar Hassan Statement .....

The 'Shaheed" controversy is yet another drone to confuse public opinion and sabotage and deviate constructive debate how to give "Peace a Chance"




so kill this new Drone Operator for this deadly attack on our shaheeds.
 

rashidfarooq

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Munawar Hassan Statement .....

منور حسن صاحب سادہ لوح آدمی ہیں، یہ سلیم لفافی خبیث کی سازش ہے کہ اس نے داؤ پیچ لگا کر اپنے مطلب کی بات ان سے کروا لی اور اتنا بڑا ہنگامہ کھڑا کر دیا۔ اس سلیم لفافی کو بڑے سے لفافے میں بند کر کے شہید کردینا چاہئے۔
 

hawkkhan

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Munawar Hassan Statement .....

May I ask what the diffrence in the following parties .....
Al-Qaeda, Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP) & Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ) & Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat (ASWJ), Takfiri Deobandis & Salafists & Kharijites, Taliban, Ji, PTI.... etc etc

All different parties
 

fasijan

Councller (250+ posts)
Re: Munawar Hassan Statement .....

you forgot to ad... Sipah-e-Muhammad, Jafaria Party and other thousands of Matimi Sangts...
 

fasijan

Councller (250+ posts)
Re: Munawar Hassan Statement .....

May I ask what the diffrence in the following parties .....
Al-Qaeda, Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP) & Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ) & Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat (ASWJ), Takfiri Deobandis & Salafists & Kharijites, Taliban, Ji, PTI.... etc etc

you forgot to ad... Sipah-e-Muhammad, Jafaria Party and other thousands of Matimi Sangts...​
 

ISLAM4LIFE

Councller (250+ posts)
Re: Munawar Hassan Statement .....

simple question to any1 who may wish to answer!!

The victim of a blast in Swat 'round 2 years ago were Pakistani soldiers along with US Army Seals - if Pakistanis were martyred than what about American soldiers? would you call them martyr as well since they died for the same cause, if not, Why?

p.s. The loss is not of
weapons as was the case in Afghan War but humans i.e. american seals
 

hans

Banned
Re: Munawar Hassan Statement .....

Yah I forgot... but problem is no one is scared of these Groups...

Like ST, Sipah e Muhammad.. are babies compared to Al-Qaeda, Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP) & Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ) & Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat (ASWJ), Takfiri Deobandis & Salafists & Kharijites, Taliban, Ji, PTI.... etc etc

You did not get my point.... my post was pointing to PTI being part of this Mafia Gang.. Dont you agree????

You have to agree that most death caused to common Pakistani has been due to Al-Qaeda, Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP) & Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ) & Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat (ASWJ), Takfiri Deobandis & Salafists & Kharijites, Taliban.....


Also I would like to make it clear that Al-Qaeda, Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP) & Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ) & Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat (ASWJ), Takfiri Deobandis & Salafists & Kharijites, Taliban, Ji, PTI.... etc etc have nothing to do with Sunni sect.

So do not muddle or get confused. Wahabi or Salfist have nothing to do with Islam.. Agree???

you forgot to ad... Sipah-e-Muhammad, Jafaria Party and other thousands of Matimi Sangts...​
 

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