In Punjab, a Christian cant present the provincial budget!

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
http://tribune.com.pk/story/183896/in-punjab-a-christian-cant-present-the-provincial-budget/

LAHORE:

Several provincial legislators in Punjab belonging to the ruling Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) have objected to Punjab cabinet member Kamran Michael presenting the budget on grounds that he is Christian, sources within the party told The Express Tribune.

Sources say PML-N leaders are in a bind trying to figure out who to assign the finance ministry portfolio before the budget is presented before the Punjab Assembly on June 10.

Several party members are reported to have objected to a Christian being given such a prominent position as that of delivering the annual budget speech and fear losing votes amongst some of their conservative, right-wing vote bank. The PML-N is already afraid of losing ground in its heartland of Punjab to other parties that have been making inroads in the province in recent months.

Michael had been given charge of the finance ministry in March, after the PML-N kicked out the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) from Punjabs ruling coalition. He replaced the PPPs Tanveer Ashraf Kaira, in addition to retaining his earlier portfolio of human rights and minorities affairs.

However, while Michael was minister in theory, in practise the position has been managed by Sardar Zulfiqar Khan Khosa, senior adviser to Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif. Khosa attended all meetings related to the budget and was the de facto head of the ministry, despite the fact that Punjab government rules prohibit an adviser from heading any departmental business, even those at a department to which he or she has been assigned.

Sources say that Michael was forbidden from even contacting the finance secretary or the chairman of the planning and development department.

Michael holds the finance ministry as an additional portfolio, which means that he is authorised to present the budget. However, he has not been assigned the ministry itself. Rule 136 of the Punjab Assembly Rules of Procedure requires the provincial budget to be presented by the finance minister or another minister who has been assigned his portfolio.

According to the rules of the Punjab Assembly, the residual powers of any unfilled portfolios in the provincial cabinet are transferred to the chief minister until a new minister is appointed. Shahbaz currently holds 20 portfolios himself, having failed to appoint cabinet ministers after kicking out the PPP from the ruling coalition.

Sources said that PML-N members have suggested that the additional portfolio for the finance ministry be given to Education and Excise Minister Mujtaba Shuja Rehman in order to avoid Michael presenting the budget. A final decision on the matter is expected to be taken at a party meeting on Tuesday (today).

Since the chief minister technically occupies the powers of finance minister, he could present the budget himself, without having to assign the portfolio to any other cabinet member.

Punjab Government spokesman Senator Pervaiz Rashid told The Express Tribune that Rehman is most likely to present the Punjab budget for fiscal year 2012.

Published in The Express Tribune, June 7th, 2011.



WTF!!! What kind of a country have we become!!!!???
 

cefspan

Minister (2k+ posts)
http://tribune.com.pk/story/183896/in-punjab-a-christian-cant-present-the-provincial-budget/

LAHORE:

Several provincial legislators in Punjab belonging to the ruling Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) have objected to Punjab cabinet member Kamran Michael presenting the budget on grounds that he is Christian, sources within the party told The Express Tribune.

Sources say PML-N leaders are in a bind trying to figure out who to assign the finance ministry portfolio before the budget is presented before the Punjab Assembly on June 10.

Several party members are reported to have objected to a Christian being given such a prominent position as that of delivering the annual budget speech and fear losing votes amongst some of their conservative, right-wing vote bank. The PML-N is already afraid of losing ground in its heartland of Punjab to other parties that have been making inroads in the province in recent months.

Michael had been given charge of the finance ministry in March, after the PML-N kicked out the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) from Punjab’s ruling coalition. He replaced the PPP’s Tanveer Ashraf Kaira, in addition to retaining his earlier portfolio of human rights and minorities affairs.

However, while Michael was minister in theory, in practise the position has been managed by Sardar Zulfiqar Khan Khosa, senior adviser to Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif. Khosa attended all meetings related to the budget and was the de facto head of the ministry, despite the fact that Punjab government rules prohibit an adviser from heading any departmental business, even those at a department to which he or she has been assigned.

Sources say that Michael was forbidden from even contacting the finance secretary or the chairman of the planning and development department.

Michael holds the finance ministry as an “additional portfolio”, which means that he is authorised to present the budget. However, he has not been assigned the ministry itself. Rule 136 of the Punjab Assembly Rules of Procedure requires the provincial budget to be presented by the finance minister or another minister who has been assigned his portfolio.

According to the rules of the Punjab Assembly, the residual powers of any unfilled portfolios in the provincial cabinet are transferred to the chief minister until a new minister is appointed. Shahbaz currently holds 20 portfolios himself, having failed to appoint cabinet ministers after kicking out the PPP from the ruling coalition.

Sources said that PML-N members have suggested that the “additional portfolio” for the finance ministry be given to Education and Excise Minister Mujtaba Shuja Rehman in order to avoid Michael presenting the budget. A final decision on the matter is expected to be taken at a party meeting on Tuesday (today).

Since the chief minister technically occupies the powers of finance minister, he could present the budget himself, without having to assign the portfolio to any other cabinet member.

Punjab Government spokesman Senator Pervaiz Rashid told The Express Tribune that Rehman is most likely to present the Punjab budget for fiscal year 2012.

Published in The Express Tribune, June 7th, 2011.



WTF!!! What kind of a country have we become!!!!???


This is PML-N's pro islamic agenda.......
 

strings

Voter (50+ posts)
WTF!!! What kind of a country have we become!!!!???

This kind of country...

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cifa1

Citizen
PHP:
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main swiss main rahta hun yahaan app masjad ka menaar nahi bana sakte
france belgem main muslaam women hejab nahi kar sakte
italy main aik pakistani ko aik paress chorane per QATAAL se zeyada sazaa
(14 saal ki) melti hy
APP LOOG PAKISTAN MAIN RAHTE HY PAKISTAN KA KHATE HY
AUR........................ AGEE APP KHUD SAMJ DAR HY
MAIN KOI BURI BAAT NAHI KARNA CHAHATA Q K MAIN B PAKISTANI HUN A TRUE PAKISTANI
 
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awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
main swiss main rahta hun yahaan app masjad ka menaar nahi bana sakte
france belgem main muslaam women hejab nahi kar sakte

Wahan musalmaan immigrants kay taur per gaye hein as outsiders bringing their culture with them.
Yahan Christians saddion say abaad hein as natives who converted. Inkay cultural values bhe hum say miltay hein.

Also we are supposed to give equal rights to the minorities as per our constitution. So technically we are DEFYING our laws while the Europeans are ENFORCING their laws.
Ye faraq hay hamaray aur un mein when it comes to implementing laws.
 

dukelondon

Senator (1k+ posts)
The members of PML-N who have this ghatya thinking should be ashamed of themselves. What kind of Islam is this? Do they think they are behaving like Muslims. Shame on these bas.tards!!!:angry_smile:

Why should a Christian be any different from a Muslim? Is he not a Pakistani? Shouldn't all citizens be equal regardless of their religion, sect, colour or creed? WTF??:angry_smile: This ideology has been imported from the Shayateen Aal-e-Saud
 
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dukelondon

Senator (1k+ posts)
PHP:
[FLV][ZSHARE][MENTION][/MENTION][/ZSHARE][/FLV]
main swiss main rahta hun yahaan app masjad ka menaar nahi bana sakte
france belgem main muslaam women hejab nahi kar sakte
italy main aik pakistani ko aik paress chorane per QATAAL se zeyada sazaa
(14 saal ki) melti hy
APP LOOG PAKISTAN MAIN RAHTE HY PAKISTAN KA KHATE HY
AUR........................ AGEE APP KHUD SAMJ DAR HY
MAIN KOI BURI BAAT NAHI KARNA CHAHATA Q K MAIN B PAKISTANI HUN A TRUE PAKISTANI

How old are you? Tumhein in dono situations mein difference nazar nahi aa raha jo zameen aur aasmaan ka hai???? Sawaal gandum jawab chana!!!!
 

Abdul Allah

Minister (2k+ posts)
The members of PML-N who have this ghatya thinking should be ashamed of themselves. What kind of Islam is this? Do they think they are behaving like Muslims. Shame on these bas.tards!!!:angry_smile:

Why should a Christian be any different from a Muslim? Is he not a Pakistani? Shouldn't all citizens be equal regardless of their religion, sect, colour or creed? WTF??:angry_smile: This ideology has been imported from the Shayateen Aal-e-Saud

Read Quran
if you believe on it
 

hans

Banned
Read Quran
if you believe on it

Now let read Quran and witness what it says.....

Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim

Qur'an 23:53 Marmaduke Pickthall: But they (mankind) have broken their religion among them into sects, each sect rejoicing in its tenets.

Quran says: God does not forbid you, to act fairly towards those who have never fought you over religion nor have driven you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them. (60:8)

Quran says: Do not argue with the people of the Book, unless it is in the politest manner.(29:46)

Quran says: This day, are all things good an pure made lawful to you. The food of the people of the Book is lawful unto you and yours is lawful unto them. Lawful unto you in marriage are not only chaste women who are believers, but chaste women among the people of the Book revealed before your time. (5:6)

Quran says about Jesus: O Mary! God gives you good news of a word from Him, whose name shall be Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, honoured in this world and the Here after, and one of those brought near to God. (3:45)


Technically those who oppose the rights of Minority are Kaffir them selves....
Sorry But that is what I learn from Quran.
 

salaam

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Also we are supposed to give equal rights to the minorities as per our constitution. So technically we are DEFYING our laws while the Europeans are ENFORCING their laws.
Ye faraq hay hamaray aur un mein when it comes to implementing laws.

Actually Pakistan constitution does not give equal rights to non-muslims. One example is an Ahmadi, hindu or christian can never legally be president or prime-minister of pakistan whereas that restriction doesn't apply to western countries.
 

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Actually Pakistan constitution does not give equal rights to non-muslims. One example is an Ahmadi, hindu or christian can never legally be president or prime-minister of pakistan whereas that restriction doesn't apply to western countries.

Ok Agreed. But representational rights nonetheless. And since this guy is a public representative and holds a finance portfolio, he has every right to present the budget. Theres no constitutional bar on that.
 

Abdul Allah

Minister (2k+ posts)
Now let read Quran and witness what it says.....

Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim

Qur'an 23:53 Marmaduke Pickthall: But they (mankind) have broken their religion among them into sects, each sect rejoicing in its tenets.

Qur’an says: “God does not forbid you, to act fairly towards those who have never fought you over religion nor have driven you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them.” (60:8)

Qur’an says: “ Do not argue with the people of the Book, unless it is in the politest manner.”(29:46)

Qur’an says: “This day, are all things good an pure made lawful to you. The food of the people of the Book is lawful unto you and yours is lawful unto them. Lawful unto you in marriage are not only chaste women who are believers, but chaste women among the people of the Book revealed before your time.” (5:6)

Qur’an says about Jesus: “ O’ Mary! God gives you good news of a word from Him, whose name shall be Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, honoured in this world and the Here after, and one of those brought near to God.” (3:45)


Technically those who oppose the rights of Minority are Kaffir them selves....
Sorry But that is what I learn from Quran.

dealing justilly
talking with plotiness
Who deny that???

Equal rights?
in terms of jan-o-mal yes

but as per the sitution under discussion the Ayath you present does not fit here.

READ Sura 9
(29. Fight against those who believe not in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth among the People of the Scripture, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.)

So under light of this Ayath now consider the the topic under discussion.
 

Abdul Allah

Minister (2k+ posts)
I've read the Quran 2 times with translation and Maulana Maududi's (RA) tafseer. So, I think you are the one who needs to read it brother.

dealing justilly
talking with plotiness
Who deny that???

Equal rights?
in terms of jan-o-mal yes

READ Sura 9
(29. Fight against those who believe not in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth among the People of the Scripture, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.)

So under light of this Ayath now consider the topic under discussion.