Imran seeks steps to stop drone attacks - The Only Person Raisin a Voice on this issue (Update: Imra

rajakhanmd

Senator (1k+ posts)
Pakistani people and army both have made a clear cut distinction between the Talibans fighting against US and TTP. Army has launched action against the Taliban elements which are against the state of Pakistan, involved in terrorism activities (TTP).

NW '' supposedly '' has some key Afghan Taliban leaders like Haqqani group. That is the reason US wants us to start an army action there. Though, Gen. Musharraf sb captured and sold many Taliban people, still these Afghan Taliban never declared a war against Pakistan. The capture of Col. Imam and murder of Khawaja Khalid, that is highly suspicious as both of them, particularly Col. Imam had very strong ties with Afghan Taliban and it is beyond any doubt that Afghan Taliban are not involved in this. All of these recent events indicate that now the stage is being set for a military operation in NW. As I mentioned somewhere else, more drone attacks in NW........more terrorist activities in Pakistan.........more evidence linking terrorism to NW.......public opinion in favor of army action........army action in NW is the likely scenario in the near future.

Real Pakistan and Pakistanis are sandwiched between the the two small factions: religious extremists (TTP) and the liberal extremists and both are equally dangerous and deadly for our security.
 

jabeen

Voter (50+ posts)
yahan mojood Anti MQM logo ka pata nai hay ka MQM portested against Drone Attacks in 2006, MQM took out rallies all over pakistan against Drone Attack in Bajur agenci.

http://www.mqm.org/English-News/Jan-2006/mma-mqm-rally-15jan06.htm

Altaf Hussain Barack Obama ko letter likh chukkay hain ka Pakistan per Drone attack band karo.

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ab ap log ko pata nai ha to is ma MQM ka kasoor to nai ?
 

Abdali

Senator (1k+ posts)
Pakistan need to do the same with zionist run criminal christian empire.The current coward brown slave fake degrees dasti run joke of govt need to be remove
by force.

REVALUTION, REVALUTION LIKE IRAN WILL SAVE PAKISTAN FROM THIS KHANNJURR GOVT.
 

Zaidi Qasim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
MEHVISH
Ah goody, so Am I surprised by your fable words ''you are against these drone attacks" wow, wonder why is this so ? But then again, your sermon of thosand words against Talibans and a nice advise to us that get rid of these Talibas and you will request America to stop these attacks. what a twisted logic.Lady, these areas are under the control of pakistan , not America.
your Shameless words making the mockery of those innocent peoples whose lives are being taken under the excuse of Talibans.You got to have guts to warn Pakistans as long as "they" have Taliban in their country,these drones will continue and in the consequences the innocents people will be getting killed.What a logic from bottom sucker American stooges. What I have in my country,bad or good, is my problem and "I" will deal with it not America. Who gives them a right to attack my country and kill innocents people and then blame it on Talibans.? But if you hidding in England, using their passport and their refuge, you can't talk against them. But don't come here and write paragraph telling us that it is Americans Business what goes inside my country.
 

Zaidi Qasim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
yahan mojood Anti MQM logo ka pata nai hay ka MQM portested against Drone Attacks in 2006, MQM took out rallies all over pakistan against Drone Attack in Bajur agenci.

http://www.mqm.org/English-News/Jan-2006/mma-mqm-rally-15jan06.htm

Altaf Hussain Barack Obama ko letter likh chukkay hain ka Pakistan per Drone attack band karo.

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ab ap log ko pata nai ha to is ma MQM ka kasoor to nai ?
گلدان ميں سجا تو ليے شوق سے ادا
پھولوں سے بے طرح مجھے شرمندگی ہوئ
 

imemyself89

MPA (400+ posts)
Imran Khan Moves Supreme Court Against Drone Attacks


ISLAMABAD: Cricketing legend-turned politician Imran Khan has filed a lawsuit in Pakistans apex court asking it to declare drone attacks as war crimes. According to published reports, the Pakistan Tehrik-i-Insaf (PTI) chief on Wednesday filed a petition in the Supreme Court asking it to declare drone attacks as attacks on the sovereignty and defence of Pakistan and a war crime.
The petition, filed by Imran Khans lawyer Shaukat Aziz Siddiqui, argues that the provisions of logistics and facilities to any foreign country or alliance for mass destruction through drone strikes inside the territory of Pakistan resulting into killings of Pakistani citizen is illegal, unwarranted, unconstitutional, in violation the United Nations Charter, universal declaration of human rights, international law as well as the international humanitarian law, a war crime and an attack on the sovereignty, solidarity, integrity and defence of Pakistan.
Imran Khans petition was filed today after a Lahore court Lahore cort ruled against drone strikes and called on the government to take appropriate measures to halt strikes by unmanned drones in Pakistan if they arent approved by Islamabad.
Federal authorities should take measures to stop drone attacks in Pakistan if they are carried out without formal approval, the court said on Wednesday.


The court was responding to a petition that said drone strikes were a violation of national sovereignty.
Drone attacks have increased under the authority of U.S. President Barack Obama, notably inside Pakistan. The CIA, a civilian entity, said it is acting according to the code of law in carrying out the strikes.
Pakistans government publicly objects to the attacks, saying they violate its sovereignty. But it is widely thought there is a tacit agreement between the U.S. intelligence agency, the CIA, and Islamabad to allow such strikes, reported Voice of America on its website today.
(http://www1.voanews.com/english/new...ile-Strike-Kills-10-in-Pakistan-97396999.html)
Two missiles believed fired Tuesday by an unmanned drone struck a village in the tribal regions of Pakistan, killing militants including Hamza al-Jufi, an Egyptian allied with al-Qaida.
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
ISLAMABAD Chairman PTI, Imran Khan, has expressed his strongest condemnation of the fresh wave of drone attacks on North Waziristan Agency on Tuesday, 11 May, and demanded of the Government of Pakistan to take immediate steps to stop them.
He stated that these attacks were killing innocent Pakistani citizens and were not being targeted at so-called militants at all. If, as the Government and US believe, the drones were killing militants, there would have been no militant left in the tribal belt, he added.
Imran demanded that an independent inquiry should be conducted each time whenever there was a drone attack and the media must be provided access to the site of the attack so that the truth could be established. He raised some pertinent questions relating to the legality or otherwise of the drone attacks:
Firstly, where does international law allow extra-judicial killings and that too by one state against the citizens of another state in latters own territory?
Secondly where is a provision for mass killings under international law? Thirdly, under what international law or agreement is the US violating the sovereignty of another state, especially in this case of Pakistan? Fourthly, how can a state simply eliminate mere suspects by indiscriminate bombing? Surely in all civilised states, a suspect is innocent until proven guilty by a court of law.
Imran expressed fear that these drone attacks were resulting in continuous loss of innocent Pakistanis lives and if they were not stopped, they would result in more suicide attacks. He pointed out that the US strategy in FATA had failed because the fight against militancy and terrorism was a fight for hearts and minds and the US had not been able to achieve this because of its focus on a military-centric strategy. In fact, as a result of US policies in this region, anti-American sentiments have increased across the FATA.

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Imran takes the matter to sureme court

Imran Khan Moves Supreme Court Against Drone Attacks




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ISLAMABAD: Cricketing legend-turned politician Imran Khan has filed a lawsuit in Pakistans apex court asking it to declare drone attacks as war crimes.
According to published reports, the Pakistan Tehrik-i-Insaf (PTI) chief on Wednesday filed a petition in the Supreme Court asking it to declare drone attacks as attacks on the sovereignty and defence of Pakistan and a war crime.
The petition, filed by Imran Khans lawyer Shaukat Aziz Siddiqui, argues that the provisions of logistics and facilities to any foreign country or alliance for mass destruction through drone strikes inside the territory of Pakistan resulting into killings of Pakistani citizen is illegal, unwarranted, unconstitutional, in violation the United Nations Charter, universal declaration of human rights, international law as well as the international humanitarian law, a war crime and an attack on the sovereignty, solidarity, integrity and defence of Pakistan.
Imran Khans petition was filed today after a Lahore court Lahore cort ruled against drone strikes and called on the government to take appropriate measures to halt strikes by unmanned drones in Pakistan if they arent approved by Islamabad.
Federal authorities should take measures to stop drone attacks in Pakistan if they are carried out without formal approval, the court said on Wednesday.


The court was responding to a petition that said drone strikes were a violation of national sovereignty.
Drone attacks have increased under the authority of U.S. President Barack Obama, notably inside Pakistan. The CIA, a civilian entity, said it is acting according to the code of law in carrying out the strikes.
Pakistans government publicly objects to the attacks, saying they violate its sovereignty. But it is widely thought there is a tacit agreement between the U.S. intelligence agency, the CIA, and Islamabad to allow such strikes, reported Voice of America on its website today.
(http://www1.voanews.com/english/new...ile-Strike-Kills-10-in-Pakistan-97396999.html)
Two missiles believed fired Tuesday by an unmanned drone struck a village in the tribal regions of Pakistan, killing militants including Hamza al-Jufi, an Egyptian allied with al-Qaida.

IK in the lead again (clap)(clap)
 

dagreat123

Siasat.pk - Blogger
yahan mojood Anti MQM logo ka pata nai hay ka MQM portested against Drone Attacks in 2006, MQM took out rallies all over pakistan against Drone Attack in Bajur agenci.

http://www.mqm.org/English-News/Jan-2006/mma-mqm-rally-15jan06.htm

Altaf Hussain Barack Obama ko letter likh chukkay hain ka Pakistan per Drone attack band karo.

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ab ap log ko pata nai ha to is ma MQM ka kasoor to nai ?

Ki meray Qatal kay baad us nay JAFA say toba
HAEE us zoday pashay man ka pashay maa hona

This is not an action dear.this is called POINT SCORING!!!
 

hawk eyed

MPA (400+ posts)
mar gaen hen sab kursi k peechay.....i honestly want to shout at the top of my lungs WHERE IS OUR SOVEREIGNTY?????our pathan brothers are not safe in their own land....how pathetic situation this is.....what if bilawal is hit by drone?aah...i know....it shouldnt make any difference....when one can kill his own wife how would he.....well MS MEHWISH do u remember the drone attak on madrissa in 2008 which took life of 80 innocent muslim children including HUFFAZ didnt they have any families like we do.....wouldnt they think of taking revenge?about jamia hafsa....just imagine ur sister killed by a bullet from pak army.....wouldnt u think of taking revenge?plz miss dont try to mess with our feelings we r already so much rundown.
 

Ammar isb

Councller (250+ posts)
The fixation with drone attacks is absurd, these opponents do not condemn the brutal killings by the Taliban are those not citizens of Pakistan. The drone attacks on the other hand are conducted in accordance to government of Pakistan approval and the intelligence is shared by the Pakistan army. Contrary to the perception these attacks have been highly successful in killing many high profile targets
 

hawk eyed

MPA (400+ posts)
The fixation with drone attacks is absurd, these opponents do not condemn the brutal killings by the Taliban are those not citizens of Pakistan. The drone attacks on the other hand are conducted in accordance to government of Pakistan approval and the intelligence is shared by the Pakistan army. Contrary to the perception these attacks have been highly successful in killing many high profile targets[/Q i strongly condemn the brutal killings n extremism of taliban who r committing horrible crimes in the name of THE DIVINE but would u kindly justify the killing of civilians in pursuit of high profile targets.....i m just trying to describe how these talibans emerged n later they were exploited by our enemies.....but being a pakistani do tell me HOW CAN U TOLERATE THE TRASGRESSION IN FORM OF DRONES?i believe our army could do much well alone..........SAB BIKAY HUAY HEN..........BLOODY BEGGERS
 

hassam

MPA (400+ posts)

عدیل بھائی،

آپ ہمیں الزام نہ دیں کہ ہم ڈرون حملوں کا کسی بھی طرح دفاع کر رہے ہیں۔ ایک معصوم زندگی کی حرمت و قیمت ہمارے دین میں بہت زیادہ ہے۔ کون ہے جو معصوموں کا خون بہتا ہوا دیکھنا چاہتا ہے۔

ڈرون حملوں کے خلاف احتجاج بالکل ٹھیک ہے اور ہم خود اس صف میں آپ کے ساتھ موجود ہیں۔

مگر اگر ہم:

۔ ان ڈرون حملوں کو ختم کرنے میں واقعی سیریس ہیں

۔ اور ہم واقعیہ یہ نہیں چاہتے کہ ہمارا ایک بھی معصوم پاکستانی مسلمان بھائی ان ڈرون حملوں میں نہ مارا جائے۔

۔ اور ہم چاہتے ہیں کہ ہماری تقدیر کی باگ دوڑ پھر سے ہمارے اپنے ہاتھوں میں آ جائے۔


تو پھر اسکا صرف اور صرف ایک ہی واحد حل ہے اور وہ یہ کہ ہم پاک سرزمین کو ہر قسم کے فتنے سے پاک کرتے ہوئے اپنی رٹ قائم کر دیں۔ جس دن ہم اپنی پاک سرزمین کو اس طالبانی فتنے سے پاک کرنے میں آزاد ہو گئے، اُس دن یقین کریں کوئی معصوم پھر ان ڈرون حملوں سے نہیں مرے گا۔


ڈرون حملوں میں مارے جانے والے معصوم، مگر کیا طالبانی فتنے کا شکار ہونے والے معصوموں کے خون کی کوئی اہمیت نہیں؟

بڑی حیرت ہوتی ہے کہ جماعت اسلامی وغیرہ جب ان ڈرون حملوں کے خلاف "جہاد" کی بات کر رہی ہوتی ہیں۔

مگر کیوں ایسا ہے کہ ہم نے جماعت اسلامی والوں کے منہ سے آج تک اس طالبانی فتنے کے خلاف کبھی "جہاد" کرنے کا ذکر نہیں سنا۔ جی ہاں اسی طالبانی فتنے کے خلاف کہ جس نے ڈرون حملوں کی نسبت کئی ہزار گنا زیادہ معصوموں کو خاک و خون کی نذر کر دیا ہے۔

یہ اتنا بڑا تضاد کیوں؟

ان لاکھوں معصوموں کے خون بہانے پر اس طالبانی فتنے کے خلاف "جہاد" کا نعرہ بلند کرنے کی بجائے آج تک ہم نے یہی دیکھا کہ ان لوگوں نے نعرہ بلند کیا تو صرف یہ کیا کہ طالبان "ہمارے بھائی" ہیں۔

طالبان کو بچانے کے لیے بہانہ بنایا جاتا ہے کہ یہ معصوم ہیں اور امریکی اور انڈین را کے ایجنٹ طالبان کی شکل اختیار کر کے ان ہزاروں لاکھوں معصوموں کو قتل کر رہے ہیں۔ مجھے اپنی قوم کے اس ذہنی انحطاط پر افسوس ہوتا ہے کہ وہ ایسی ایسی جھوٹی سازشی جھوٹی باتوں پر بہل جاتی ہے۔

طالبان کے بڑے بڑے گروہ ملا نذیر اور بیت اللہ محسود اور انکے ترجمان ملا عمر وغیرہ کھل کر ٹی وی پر آ کر ان خود کش حملوں کی ذمہ داری قبول کرتے ہیں اور کھل کر دھمکیاں دیتے ہیں کہ وہ ہزاروں ایسے مزید خود کش حملے کریں گے۔ اُس علاقے کے تمام وہ قبائل جو کہ پاکستان کے وفادار ہیں وہ ان طالبان کی خونی فطرت کی گواہی دیتے ہیں کہ کیسے انہوں نے وہاں ان پاکستان سے وفادار قبائلیوں کا خون بہایا،۔۔۔۔ یہ سب کچھ ہماری آنکھوں کے سامنے ہے مگر پھر بھی یہ طالبان "ہمارے بھائی" ہیں؟

تو کبھی ان طالبان کو آپ لوگ "امریکی و را کا ایجنٹ" بناتے ہیں اور جب ان کے خلاف کاروائی کی بات ہوتی ہے تو انہی طالبان کو آپ "ہمارے بھائی" بنا لیتے ہیں۔

ہمیں یہاں صرف یہ بات سمجھنی ہے کہ ڈرون حملے میں مارے جانے والے بھی معصوم ہیں، مگر اس طالبانی خوارجی فتنے کی نظر ہونے والے کئی ہزار گنا زیادہ پاکستانی بھی معصوم ہیں اور انکا خون بھی ایسا ہی مقدس ہے جیسا کہ ڈرون حملوں میں مارے جانے والوں کا۔

ہمیں یہ بھی سمجھنا ہے کہ ڈرون حملے فتنہ ہیں، مگر یہ طالبان "ام الفتن" ہیں یعنی یہ فتنے کہ وہ ماں ہیں کہ جن کی کوکھ سے یہ تمام دیگر فتنے پھوٹ رہے ہیں۔

اور فتنوں کی اس ماں طالبان "ہمارے بھائیوں" کو خود امریکہ نے حرام ولادت دی تھی۔ انہی کی وجہ سے آج امریکہ افغانستان ہماری سرحد پر آ بیٹھا ہے۔ انہی کی وجہ سے پاکستان کو جتنا نقصان پہنچا ہے وہ دس انڈیا اور دس امریکہ مل کر بھی نہیں پہنچا سکتے تھے۔


اور آخر میں سب سے اہم بات۔ اس ام الفتن طالبان "ہمارے بھائیوں" کو جس دن ہم ختم کرنے میں کامیاب ہو گئے، اُس دن یہ ڈرون حملے جیسے تمام دیگر فتنے اپنی موت آپ مر جائیں گے، پاکستان میں امن و امان قائم ہو جائے گا، کوئی خود کش حملوں میں معصوم نہیں مارے جا رہے ہوں گے، فاٹا میں کوئی ہزاروں معصوموں کو ذبح نہیں کر رہا ہو گا۔

کاش کہ عمران خان اگر زیادہ نہیں تب بھی ان ڈرون حملوں جتنا ہی ان طالبانی ام الفتن کے خلاف آواز اٹھا لے۔ مگر نہیں ابھی تک عمران خان کے لیے یہ طالبان "ہمارے بھائی" ہیں۔

افسوس کہ عمران خان اس طالبان کو "ہمارے بھائی" کہہ کر دہشتگردی کے خلاف ہماری جنگ کو کمزور کر رہا ہے۔​

Do not compare apple with oranges. Our army has done a lot to tackle the antipakistani (so called) taliban. What are they doing to resist the drone attack? If you think that the fire in our neighbour hood would never reach your home think again.
 

raju

Senator (1k+ posts)
Jiyo khan sahab. The only leader who cares, now taking some action. He doesn't just talk..Well done sir!!!!!!
 

Ammar isb

Councller (250+ posts)
@ Manno, I appreciate the fact that you are not one the Taliban Apologists. Regarding the issue of drone attacks I would request you to search for some of the articles by Farhat Taj and Mossharaf Zaidi as they present a balanced and unbiased viewpoint.

Contrary to what you hear these attacks are carried out by the approval of Pakistan government, and for a drone attack first the locals themselves provide the information to Pakistan Army who transpires it to ISAF command. It is on the basis of this information an drone attack takes places.
 

Ammad Hafeez

Minister (2k+ posts)
yahan mojood Anti MQM logo ka pata nai hay ka MQM portested against Drone Attacks in 2006, MQM took out rallies all over pakistan against Drone Attack in Bajur agenci.

http://www.mqm.org/English-News/Jan-2006/mma-mqm-rally-15jan06.htm

Altaf Hussain Barack Obama ko letter likh chukkay hain ka Pakistan per Drone attack band karo.

up70.gif


ab ap log ko pata nai ha to is ma MQM ka kasoor to nai ?


گلدان ميں سجا تو ليے شوق سے ادا
پھولوں سے بے طرح مجھے شرمندگی ہوئ

Hahaha You have No Words Zaidi.. Well Post Jabeen
 

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