Imran Khan's success means Pakistans'

walayti jatt

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
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Awan S

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Everyone want Khan to be successful but problem is that he is not getting successful. He can be successful to maximum that more failure will not occur but damage in last one year cannot be restored back. Dollar cannot come back below 150, prices due to 12% price hike cannot be reversed, oil cannot back to 80 rupees/litre, electricity cannot go back to 2018 level. All khan can do bring back inflation to 7-8% which will be still double the PML(N)'s last year. Oil & Electricity prices may now increase slowly but it is already beyond the reach of poor. Dollar may stop roller coaster flight but will remain 150-160 ranch which is very very poor.
 

Wake up Pak

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Pakistan was dependent on China for major source of Foreign Direct Investment since 2015 Despite going from CPEC Phase 1 to Phase 2 & less chinese inflow • FDI in Sep 2019 was $385M, 26th MONTH HIGH • FDI in July-Sep 2019(Q1) was $542M • Total Investment was $886M, up by 137%
 

walayti jatt

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Everyone want Khan to be successful but problem is that he is not getting successful. He can be successful to maximum that more failure will not occur but damage in last one year cannot be restored back. Dollar cannot come back below 150, prices due to 12% price hike cannot be reversed, oil cannot back to 80 rupees/litre, electricity cannot go back to 2018 level. All khan can do bring back inflation to 7-8% which will be still double the PML(N)'s last year. Oil & Electricity prices may now increase slowly but it is already beyond the reach of poor. Dollar may stop roller coaster flight but will remain 150-160 ranch which is very very poor.
Insha Allah everything can be reversed. Take Turkey's example. Allah Almighty gas blessed mankind with many talents, if they really want they can achieve anything. Sky is the limit.
 

MianJi

MPA (400+ posts)
Everyone want Khan to be successful but problem is that he is not getting successful. He can be successful to maximum that more failure will not occur but damage in last one year cannot be restored back. Dollar cannot come back below 150, prices due to 12% price hike cannot be reversed, oil cannot back to 80 rupees/litre, electricity cannot go back to 2018 level. All khan can do bring back inflation to 7-8% which will be still double the PML(N)'s last year. Oil & Electricity prices may now increase slowly but it is already beyond the reach of poor. Dollar may stop roller coaster flight but will remain 150-160 ranch which is very very poor.

Are you suggesting that the current government borrow money to artificially prop up the rupee against the dollar, a la the PMLN government?
 

MianJi

MPA (400+ posts)
July-Sep 2019 C/A Deficit= 64%⬇ Trade Deficit= 35%⬇ Exports= 2.8%⬆ Fiscal Deficit= 36%⬇ Tax Revenue= 15%⬆ Inland Revenue= 25%⬆ Tax Fillers= 446,000⬆ Foreign Private Investment= 51%⬆ Total Foreign Investment= 137%⬆ Circular Debt= 54%⬇ PSX KSE100 ⬆ Dollar▶Rupee = Stable

Thank you for taking the time to list the numbers and include icons for better understanding. Unfortunately, you forgot to include any khota keema naans with the data ;)
 

islamabadi

Minister (2k+ posts)
90 din mein corruption khatam kardonga.....
KPK police scotland Yard k level ki police banegi
15 din mein Oil Jackpot nikleyga
Police mein SHO american sheriff ki tarha elected hoga..

We are no longer buying this crap from thee laantis
 

Ratan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
90 din mein corruption khatam kardonga.....
KPK police scotland Yard k level ki police banegi
15 din mein Oil Jackpot nikleyga
Police mein SHO american sheriff ki tarha elected hoga..

We are no longer buying this crap from thee laantis
Who cares? You Patwaries the friends of thugs (Noora & Mr 10% Zardari) are minorities, the majority with IK & PTI.
Rok sako to rok lo.......?
 

bigfoot

Minister (2k+ posts)

Awan S

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Insha Allah everything can be reversed. Take Turkey's example. Allah Almighty gas blessed mankind with many talents, if they really want they can achieve anything. Sky is the limit.
OK man, if you trust that much, let us hope for the best
 

Awan S

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Are you suggesting that the current government borrow money to artificially prop up the rupee against the dollar, a la the PMLN government?
I am not saying that current government did any artificial prop up. Initially when a permanent financial solution was required, Khan government was in different illusions. First was to get money from corrupts and run this country with that money. Second was bring looted money from abroad to find a permanent financial solution. Third was that foreign Pakistani will send such big amounts that finances will never be an issue again. When these all things failed; financial uncertainty ruined the market. When our foreign reserves went down toward bottom, financial uncertainty pushed dollar & inflation up and some financial indicators like stock market down. It was big mismanagement and miscalculation of financial sources which caused our economy to ruin just in one year which takes several years to go that low.
 

Sonya Khan

Minister (2k+ posts)
I am not saying that current government did any artificial prop up. Initially when a permanent financial solution was required, Khan government was in different illusions. First was to get money from corrupts and run this country with that money. Second was bring looted money from abroad to find a permanent financial solution. Third was that foreign Pakistani will send such big amounts that finances will never be an issue again. When these all things failed; financial uncertainty ruined the market. When our foreign reserves went down toward bottom, financial uncertainty pushed dollar & inflation up and some financial indicators like stock market down. It was big mismanagement and miscalculation of financial sources which caused our economy to ruin just in one year which takes several years to go that low.
So in all you do agree that Nawaz left the country bankrupt and that he was one of the looters ..... And only fault of Khan is he did not get money to run the country hence the inflation ...... Good going genius.....
 

Awan S

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
So in all you do agree that Nawaz left the country bankrupt and that he was one of the looters ..... And only fault of Khan is he did not get money to run the country hence the inflation ...... Good going genius.....
Why are you taking different meanings of what I have said. If there were a competent government after PML(N) then first they have got a package from IMF which they have to take later too. Once your finances were arranged, no financial indicator would have gone in negative territory. Ishaq Dar took three year package in first month of government which gave a stable finances message to everyone and everything was in control. Nawaz took country what PPP has left; they have to take loans too to return previous loan plus run the country until country is of their own. Case is very similar for Khan government, nothing different, they should have realised from Day 1 that there is no choice but to take loans for now. Finances which are messed up especially the dollar crossing 150 and its impact to other financial indicators is very very hard to fix.
 

Sonya Khan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Why are you taking different meanings of what I have said. If there were a competent government after PML(N) then first they have got a package from IMF which they have to take later too. Once your finances were arranged, no financial indicator would have gone in negative territory. Ishaq Dar took three year package in first month of government which gave a stable finances message to everyone and everything was in control. Nawaz took country what PPP has left; they have to take loans too to return previous loan plus run the country until country is of their own. Case is very similar for Khan government, nothing different, they should have realised from Day 1 that there is no choice but to take loans for now. Finances which are messed up especially the dollar crossing 150 and its impact to other financial indicators is very very hard to fix.
So that means Nawaz messed up the country which is now very very hard to fix .... You are right .... in sha Allah IK govt will fix it ... Don’t worry...:)
 

Awan S

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
But why did Nawaz increase dollar from 60 in Musharraf era to 100???? ..... ?..... And why did Nawaz decrease exports from Zardari era ????.... ?......
Nawaz got dollar at 95 and left at 115. There was 5 year PPP era when Dollar increased from 60 to 95. Please check the facts first.
Nawaz was in power from 2013-2018; how he messed up in those years? He was last in power before this from 1997-99. In five years of his term (2013-2018), he resolved following two major issues:
(1) Generated 11,000 mv to resolve power issue; he started from 18 hours of load shedding in 2013
(2) He restored peace in :
(a) Karachi although rangers were there in PPP era (2008-2013) has well
(b) Restored peace overall country although army was there when in PPP at least one bomb blast every week countrywide

There was a project who will earn permanent income for Pakistan when completed. This was CPEC; started in PML(N) era from Memorandum of understanding (MOU) to construction. Gwadar port became functional as well.
23 new Universities were opened which include upgradation from college to universities
3 Mega hospital projects completed two in Lahore and one in Multan
(10 storey Meo 2 and Asia's biggest Kidney and liver hospital in Lahore and Nishtar 2 in Multan)
Two new metros were completed Multan and Rawalpindi/Islamabd
Orangeline Train finished 90%; had high court not stopped work for three years, it would have been completed and operational.
Can PTI match with these projects? They have taken highest loan in any year by any government in year 1 (16 Billion Dollers and overall loans exceeded from 95 to 106 Billions).
My friend, it is very easy to talk but very hard to deliever. Shahbaz Sharif deliever for Punjab and few things like peace, load shedding, Lahore Karachi motorway and CPEC is for entire country.
 

Sonya Khan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Nawaz got dollar at 95 and left at 115. There was 5 year PPP era when Dollar increased from 60 to 95. Please check the facts first.
Nawaz was in power from 2013-2018; how he messed up in those years? He was last in power before this from 1997-99. In five years of his term (2013-2018), he resolved following two major issues:
(1) Generated 11,000 mv to resolve power issue; he started from 18 hours of load shedding in 2013
(2) He restored peace in :
(a) Karachi although rangers were there in PPP era (2008-2013) has well
(b) Restored peace overall country although army was there when in PPP at least one bomb blast every week countrywide

There was a project who will earn permanent income for Pakistan when completed. This was CPEC; started in PML(N) era from Memorandum of understanding (MOU) to construction. Gwadar port became functional as well.
23 new Universities were opened which include upgradation from college to universities
3 Mega hospital projects completed two in Lahore and one in Multan
(10 storey Meo 2 and Asia's biggest Kidney and liver hospital in Lahore and Nishtar 2 in Multan)
Two new metros were completed Multan and Rawalpindi/Islamabd
Orangeline Train finished 90%; had high court not stopped work for three years, it would have been completed and operational.
Can PTI match with these projects? They have taken highest loan in any year by any government in year 1 (16 Billion Dollers and overall loans exceeded from 95 to 106 Billions).
My friend, it is very easy to talk but very hard to deliever. Shahbaz Sharif deliever for Punjab and few things like peace, load shedding, Lahore Karachi motorway and CPEC is for entire country.
This is all Nawaz has to show for his 35 year rule???? And then you conveniently forget that Nawaz in his 90s got a thriving Pakistan which he reduced to an indebted Pakistan .... And in 2013 he got Pakistan with 55 billion dollars debt which he increased to 90 billion dollar by 2018 .... He artificially propped the rupee price which killed local industry and exporters .... What his govt essentially was doing was borrowing money from everywhere , starting few fancy projects and rest doing money laundering ..... He left the economy in shambles ..... and with minimal exports and debt servicing to the tune of 9 billion dollars or more annually which IK govt has to pay ..... You can praise his govt as much as you want but every economist , every business journal here and abroad universally agree that that Pakistan’s economy was on ventilator in 2018 ..... And lastly real economic boom means solid innovative industries, not just a motorway here and there and a hospital here and there ..... Solid economy means institution building .... He never took care of Pakistan being built stronger and especially he acted like a slave to India ..... That is why we regret why our elders voted for him and his cronies..... and that is why Pakistan economy was on ventilator when he left after decades of rule .....
 

Awan S

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
This is all Nawaz has to show for his 35 year rule???? And then you conveniently forget that Nawaz in his 90s got a thriving Pakistan which he reduced to an indebted Pakistan .... And in 2013 he got Pakistan with 55 billion dollars debt which he increased to 90 billion dollar by 2018 .... He artificially propped the rupee price which killed local industry and exporters .... What his govt essentially was doing was borrowing money from everywhere , starting few fancy projects and rest doing money laundering ..... He left the economy in shambles ..... and with minimal exports and debt servicing to the tune of 9 billion dollars or more annually which IK govt has to pay ..... You can praise his govt as much as you want but every economist , every business journal here and abroad universally agree that that Pakistan’s economy was on ventilator in 2018 ..... And lastly real economic boom means solid innovative industries, not just a motorway here and there and a hospital here and there ..... Solid economy means institution building .... He never took care of Pakistan being built stronger and especially he acted like a slave to India ..... That is why we regret why our elders voted for him and his cronies..... and that is why Pakistan economy was on ventilator when he left after decades of rule .....
Forget about more than that; PTI government cannot achieve what PML(N) has done in last five years. GDP from 5.7 was brought back to 2.4% within a year, inflation from 4% to 12% and many other negative indicators. PTI is in power in KPK in its seven years. They started a metro bus project, it is now four year and project is incomplete. The cost of this project has passed 100 billion rupees. Shahbaz Sharif completed same project in Lahore in 11 months and 30 billions only. What PTI has done for KPK, any school, college, university, hospital any other reform? These people only talk, talk and talk nothing more than that.
Do you think letting rupee going down help local industry. 75% of our imports are raw material for our industries. When dollar has passed 150 then our local industry is dying now as raw material from abroad became very expensive.