"Imran Khan is a confused Man, He doesn't understand politics" - Haroon Rasheed

mrk123

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Imran is a confused thing: Haroon Rasheed thrashes Imran Khan

iss ney kaha shehbaz shareef ki tarha hona chata hoon phir terrorists k mutaliq iska mind bikil clear nahi hai iss ney awam ko mayoos kia hai.iski jagha asad umar theek tha

Bhai usski policy koee personal policy tu nahin naa - woh tu apni jamaat ka numainda hai. Jo jamaat faisla karay gi policy wise tu ussnay ussee line ko follow karna hai.

Shayad aap sahee kah rahay hoon magar meri naqis rai mein Asad Umar iss job kay liyay fit nahin hai. Woh federal government mein aik policy portfolio tu shaee sambhaal sakta hai magar KPK jaisay janjaal soobay mein CMship nahin kar sakta. Aur agar PTI nay yeah ghalti kar bhi di tu phir ussay usska nuqsaan long term mein uthaana parray ga.
 
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modern.fakir

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: "Imran Khan is a confused Man, He doesn't understand politics" - Haroon ur Rasheed

You are a very wise man my friend (clap)

Unfortunately I fear at giving my true opinion, If I give my opinion on this then I may be abused and black listed by my peers. This will endanger my bigger aim on this forum.

Therefore I will keep quiet
:(:P:);) Samajdaar ka liya ishara hee kaafi hota hai. ;)
 

moazzamniaz

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Imran is a confused thing: Haroon Rasheed thrashes Imran Khan

I think you have accurately captured the symptoms. But what are the root cause(s) of this problem?

There are usually solutions available to any problem. They may not be the most desirable ones but there sure are solutions to almost all the problems. Could it be that the real problem is complete lack of comprehension on part of Pakistani state (military included) and the media in general.

Could it be that we don't know what the problem is? Do we even know if the problem is foreign or domestic or what part of the problem is domestic and which one is foreign? Why is it that only this fight is the one that we can't finance? Can't we do the simple risk/benefit or rather cost/benefit analysis of fighting this war? If things continue to happen the way they are then what would be the end result? Can we afford to wait any longer? You rightly said that we are not prepared to fight this war they way it should in terms of police and resources then what were we doing for the last 10-12 years? Where did the $20B, yes thats the big B, go that we received on the pretext that we were fighting the 'war on terror'? Are we just hoping that the problem will go away on its own one day? Something has to give and that something in my humble opinion is for us to stop being naive and simplistic in our approach. This problem is nuanced and a nuanced solution is required. I hate cliches but I am going to use one here - we need a multi-pronged approach to solve this solution. For that to happen we have to be realistic in our approach to the problem and make an attempt to understand it. Once you are clear on whats are the root causes then you can at least attempt to address those issues. For example general statements are made of foreign support and such but no one talks about whats being done to counter that 'foreign' support to these elements. Sometime it seems that our side has accepted that they can't do anything about stopping this foreign support. Why not stop the flow of funds - where are these groups getting the weaponry from? Where do they get their cars/trucks, where they get fuel etc. Whats being done to cut those logistics - whats being done to disrupt their command and control. How many of these group being infiltrated by the state? There are so many questions as to the competence of the state machinery.

I agree that IK should not be made the scapegoat. This problem is not of his making. The problem is that he has himself become a strong voice on this issue. In some ways I agree with Haroon Rashid that IK misses the bigger picture and just as he stuck with Mansoor Akhtar far too long when he was playing cricket he is making a mistake by sticking with this narrative of talks without some substance and clarity behind the framework of these talks and without a notion of pre-conditions or red-lines.

میری ناقص راۓ میں فوج جہادی نرسریوں و نیٹ ورک (تمام پاکستان میں ) کو ختم نہیں کرنا چاہتی تا کہ افغان طالبان کو حال اور مستقبل میں فاٹا میں سپلائی جاری رہے. لیکن جب ایک لڑکا فاٹا پہنچ جاتا ہے تو اب یہ فوج کے اختیار میں نہیں کہ وہ ٹی-ٹی-پی کے ہتھے چڑھ کر پاکستان میں پھٹے گا یا کہ افغان طالبان کے ہتھے چڑھ کر افغانستان میں. افغان طالبان بھی افغانستان کو بھول کر پاک فوج کیلیے ٹی-ٹی-پی سے لڑائی نہیں لڑیں گے. سارے طالبان خوش ہیں، کوئی ایک دوسرے کو نہیں چھیڑنے والا. البتہ اگر دو قسم کے یعنی شیعہ-سنی طالبان ہوتے تو شاید کام چل جاتا:)۔

٢- آفپاک بارڈر کی کیا بات ہے:)!یہ وہ پورس (سوراخ دار)بارڈر ہے جو اب تک امریکہ اور روس کو لڑا تھا. اب ہمیں یہ دن میں تارے دکھانے والا ہے، اگر افغانستان میں ہماری بھرپور مدد سے طالبان کی حکومت نہیں بنتی

حل: صبر. اگر افغانستان میں ہماری مدد سے طالبان کی حکومت بن جاتی ہے تو یہ' کام' ختم ہو گا، آہستہ آہستہ . لیکن طالبان کی پچھلی حکومت کی طرح پاکستان میں شیعہ ماری پھر بھی ختم نہیں ہو گی

یہ اوپری سوچ ہمارے جرنیلوں کی ہے کہ جو لاجیکل بھی لگتی ہے. لیکن اس دوران جو ہم پاکستانیوں کو روزانہ پھینٹا لگ رہا ہے تو اسکا ایک حل تو وہ ہے جو میں کرتا ہوں؛ یعنی کہ بم پھٹول کی خبر پڑھ کر کربلائی مرثیے سنے، چار آنسو بہاے اور تازہ دم ہو کر "نیکسٹ پلیز
 

sjpti

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Imran is a confused thing: Haroon Rasheed thrashes Imran Khan

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if only you kud tell me where did it happen . also how many are they 20 people , i don't there were 220 christians in PAKISTAN of which 20 are doing this and 200 got either killed or got injured
 

sjpti

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Imran is a confused thing: Haroon Rasheed thrashes Imran Khan

Was it only PTI favouring talks with the TTP in the APC? We all know about Haroon Rashid's anguish.


sorry for asking something irrelevant but how did u linked that mohammad amir ali name in yesterday thread. he was mimicking tariq aziz remember! name when for his youtube clip
i need to this plz. when i clicked the name it took me to actual youtube URL address. kud u tell me please
 

aamir_uetn

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: "Imran Khan is a confused Man, He doesn't understand politics" - Haroon ur Rasheed


پر امن پاکستان بہت سی بیرونی قوتوں کو منظور نہیں کیونکہ بہانہ کوئی نہیں بچے گا پاکستان کے ایٹمی پرگرام کو ختم کرنے کا اس لیے وہ اسی کوشش میں لگی رہتی ہیں پاکستان آپس ہی میں لڑ لڑ کے کمزور ہو جائے اور پھر اسے نرم نوالے کی طرح نگل لیا جائےکچھ اندورنی قوتیں بھی لڑائی جا رکھنا چاہتی ہیں کیوں کہ اسی لڑائی نے انھیں چوکیدار ، لفٹ آپریٹر اور مزدور سے امیر المجاہدین بنا دیا ، جنگ ختم ہوتے ہی انھیں اوقات پے واپس آنا پڑے گا

یہی اندرونی و بیرونی قوتیں اسی جنگی ماحول کا فائدہ اٹھا کے بہت سے سادہ اور معصوم لوگوں کوایندھن بنا رہی ہیں اپنی لالچ کی بھٹی کا ، اسی ایندھن میں ایک قسم انتقامی ایندھن ہے جن کے خاندان اس خونی جنگ کی نظر ہو گئے

اس لیے یہ قوتیں پوری کوشش کریں گی ک مذاکرات کامیاب نا ہوں اور مجھے ڈر ہے کہ پشاور جیسے کچھ مزید واقعات بھی ہو سکتے ہیں


 

rtabasum2

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Imran is a confused thing: Haroon Rasheed thrashes Imran Khan

میری ناقص راۓ میں فوج جہادی نرسریوں و نیٹ ورک (تمام پاکستان میں ) کو ختم نہیں کرنا چاہتی تا کہ افغان طالبان کو حال اور مستقبل میں فاٹا میں سپلائی جاری رہے. لیکن جب ایک لڑکا فاٹا پہنچ جاتا ہے تو اب یہ فوج کے اختیار میں نہیں کہ وہ ٹی-ٹی-پی کے ہتھے چڑھ کر پاکستان میں پھٹے گا یا کہ افغان طالبان کے ہتھے چڑھ کر افغانستان میں. افغان طالبان بھی افغانستان کو بھول کر پاک فوج کیلیے ٹی-ٹی-پی سے لڑائی نہیں لڑیں گے. سارے طالبان خوش ہیں، کوئی ایک دوسرے کو نہیں چھیڑنے والا. البتہ اگر دو قسم کے یعنی شیعہ-سنی طالبان ہوتے تو شاید کام چل جاتا:)۔

٢- آفپاک بارڈر کی کیا بات ہے:)!یہ وہ پورس (سوراخ دار)بارڈر ہے جو اب تک امریکہ اور روس کو لڑا تھا. اب ہمیں یہ دن میں تارے دکھانے والا ہے، اگر افغانستان میں ہماری بھرپور مدد سے طالبان کی حکومت نہیں بنتی

حل: صبر. اگر افغانستان میں ہماری مدد سے طالبان کی حکومت بن جاتی ہے تو یہ' کام' ختم ہو گا، آہستہ آہستہ . لیکن طالبان کی پچھلی حکومت کی طرح پاکستان میں شیعہ ماری پھر بھی ختم نہیں ہو گی

یہ اوپری سوچ ہمارے جرنیلوں کی ہے کہ جو لاجیکل بھی لگتی ہے. لیکن اس دوران جو ہم پاکستانیوں کو روزانہ پھینٹا لگ رہا ہے تو اسکا ایک حل تو وہ ہے جو میں کرتا ہوں؛ یعنی کہ بم پھٹول کی خبر پڑھ کر کربلائی مرثیے سنے، چار آنسو بہاے اور تازہ دم ہو کر "نیکسٹ پلیز

Sadly this is the best play scenario..........
 

saadkiakaray

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: "Imran Khan is a confused Man, He doesn't understand politics" - Haroon ur Rasheed

problem is ony that harun is darbari of stablishment when it doesnt feel fear 4m ik all was ok now he is sobing behalf of his masters ! besharam
 

Abdul Haadi

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: "Imran Khan is a confused Man, He doesn't understand politics" - Haroon ur Rasheed

Whole media is confused or corrupt. Haroon Rasheed I can only pray for you. I stand with Imran Khan. may Allah SWT help him bring the peace & prosperity to the country.
 

Zaidi Qasim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Imran is a confused thing: Haroon Rasheed thrashes Imran Khan

I think you have accurately captured the symptoms. But what are the root cause(s) of this problem?

There are usually solutions available to any problem. They may not be the most desirable ones but there sure are solutions to almost all the problems. Could it be that the real problem is complete lack of comprehension on part of Pakistani state (military included) and the media in general.

Could it be that we don't know what the problem is? Do we even know if the problem is foreign or domestic or what part of the problem is domestic and which one is foreign? Why is it that only this fight is the one that we can't finance? Can't we do the simple risk/benefit or rather cost/benefit analysis of fighting this war? If things continue to happen the way they are then what would be the end result? Can we afford to wait any longer? You rightly said that we are not prepared to fight this war they way it should in terms of police and resources then what were we doing for the last 10-12 years? Where did the $20B, yes thats the big B, go that we received on the pretext that we were fighting the 'war on terror'? Are we just hoping that the problem will go away on its own one day? Something has to give and that something in my humble opinion is for us to stop being naive and simplistic in our approach. This problem is nuanced and a nuanced solution is required. I hate cliches but I am going to use one here - we need a multi-pronged approach to solve this solution. For that to happen we have to be realistic in our approach to the problem and make an attempt to understand it. Once you are clear on whats are the root causes then you can at least attempt to address those issues. For example general statements are made of foreign support and such but no one talks about whats being done to counter that 'foreign' support to these elements. Sometime it seems that our side has accepted that they can't do anything about stopping this foreign support. Why not stop the flow of funds - where are these groups getting the weaponry from? Where do they get their cars/trucks, where they get fuel etc. Whats being done to cut those logistics - whats being done to disrupt their command and control. How many of these group being infiltrated by the state? There are so many questions as to the competence of the state machinery.

I agree that IK should not be made the scapegoat. This problem is not of his making. The problem is that he has himself become a strong voice on this issue and put himself in the center of this debate. In some ways I agree with Haroon Rashid that IK misses the bigger picture and just as he stuck with Mansoor Akhtar far too long when he was playing cricket he is making a mistake by sticking with this narrative of talks without some substance and clarity behind the framework of these talks and without a notion of pre-conditions or red-lines.

That is where your problem really lies.... A whopping 20 Billion Dollars to fight the war on Terror at the time when it wasn't even started .....I must say it is a very lucrative sum to place your country at the side of the donors ..... would you refuse it ?

Hum nay Mana kay kuch nahi Ghalib
Muft Hath aae tu Bura kya hai .
 

mrk123

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Imran is a confused thing: Haroon Rasheed thrashes Imran Khan

میری ناقص راۓ میں فوج جہادی نرسریوں و نیٹ ورک (تمام پاکستان میں ) کو ختم نہیں کرنا چاہتی تا کہ افغان طالبان کو حال اور مستقبل میں فاٹا میں سپلائی جاری رہے. لیکن جب ایک لڑکا فاٹا پہنچ جاتا ہے تو اب یہ فوج کے اختیار میں نہیں کہ وہ ٹی-ٹی-پی کے ہتھے چڑھ کر پاکستان میں پھٹے گا یا کہ افغان طالبان کے ہتھے چڑھ کر افغانستان میں. افغان طالبان بھی افغانستان کو بھول کر پاک فوج کیلیے ٹی-ٹی-پی سے لڑائی نہیں لڑیں گے. سارے طالبان خوش ہیں، کوئی ایک دوسرے کو نہیں چھیڑنے والا. البتہ اگر دو قسم کے یعنی شیعہ-سنی طالبان ہوتے تو شاید کام چل جاتا:)۔

٢- آفپاک بارڈر کی کیا بات ہے:)!یہ وہ پورس (سوراخ دار)بارڈر ہے جو اب تک امریکہ اور روس کو لڑا تھا. اب ہمیں یہ دن میں تارے دکھانے والا ہے، اگر افغانستان میں ہماری بھرپور مدد سے طالبان کی حکومت نہیں بنتی

حل: صبر. اگر افغانستان میں ہماری مدد سے طالبان کی حکومت بن جاتی ہے تو یہ' کام' ختم ہو گا، آہستہ آہستہ . لیکن طالبان کی پچھلی حکومت کی طرح پاکستان میں شیعہ ماری پھر بھی ختم نہیں ہو گی

یہ اوپری سوچ ہمارے جرنیلوں کی ہے کہ جو لاجیکل بھی لگتی ہے. لیکن اس دوران جو ہم پاکستانیوں کو روزانہ پھینٹا لگ رہا ہے تو اسکا ایک حل تو وہ ہے جو میں کرتا ہوں؛ یعنی کہ بم پھٹول کی خبر پڑھ کر کربلائی مرثیے سنے، چار آنسو بہاے اور تازہ دم ہو کر "نیکسٹ پلیز

I think that 'logical thinking' as it relates to Pakistan military is an oxymoron :)

This asinine doctrine of strategic depth on the left flank is surely a recipe for our annihilation.
 

moazzamniaz

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Imran is a confused thing: Haroon Rasheed thrashes Imran Khan

I think that 'logical thinking' as it relates to Pakistan military is an oxymoron :)

This asinine doctrine of strategic depth on the left flank is surely a recipe for our annihilation.

Well, it is all for "Greater Good" ie Wasee tar Qaumi Mufaad:).
 

viceKaptan

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Imran is a confused thing: Haroon Rasheed thrashes Imran Khan

sorry for asking something irrelevant but how did u linked that mohammad amir ali name in yesterday thread. he was mimicking tariq aziz remember! name when for his youtube clip
i need to this plz. when i clicked the name it took me to actual youtube URL address. kud u tell me please


Check this out
 

asmirza

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: "Imran Khan is a confused Man, He doesn't understand politics" - Haroon ur Rasheed

ab chacha tateeri ko galiyan do
jo sach bole us ko bura bhala kaho
munafqo apposition mein to sab par tanqeed karte thai
ab pata chala keh govt.chalana kitna mushkil hai
 
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حکایت جنوں

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Re: Imran is a confused thing: Haroon Rasheed thrashes Imran Khan

I think you have accurately captured the symptoms. But what are the root cause(s) of this problem?

There are usually solutions available to any problem. They may not be the most desirable ones but there sure are solutions to almost all the problems. Could it be that the real problem is complete lack of comprehension on part of Pakistani state (military included) and the media in general.

Could it be that we don't know what the problem is? Do we even know if the problem is foreign or domestic or what part of the problem is domestic and which one is foreign? Why is it that only this fight is the one that we can't finance? Can't we do the simple risk/benefit or rather cost/benefit analysis of fighting this war? If things continue to happen the way they are then what would be the end result? Can we afford to wait any longer? You rightly said that we are not prepared to fight this war they way it should in terms of police and resources then what were we doing for the last 10-12 years? Where did the $20B, yes thats the big B, go that we received on the pretext that we were fighting the 'war on terror'? Are we just hoping that the problem will go away on its own one day? Something has to give and that something in my humble opinion is for us to stop being naive and simplistic in our approach. This problem is nuanced and a nuanced solution is required. I hate cliches but I am going to use one here - we need a multi-pronged approach to solve this solution. For that to happen we have to be realistic in our approach to the problem and make an attempt to understand it. Once you are clear on whats are the root causes then you can at least attempt to address those issues. For example general statements are made of foreign support and such but no one talks about whats being done to counter that 'foreign' support to these elements. Sometime it seems that our side has accepted that they can't do anything about stopping this foreign support. Why not stop the flow of funds - where are these groups getting the weaponry from? Where do they get their cars/trucks, where they get fuel etc. Whats being done to cut those logistics - whats being done to disrupt their command and control. How many of these group being infiltrated by the state? There are so many questions as to the competence of the state machinery.

I agree that IK should not be made the scapegoat. This problem is not of his making. The problem is that he has himself become a strong voice on this issue and put himself in the center of this debate. In some ways I agree with Haroon Rashid that IK misses the bigger picture and just as he stuck with Mansoor Akhtar far too long when he was playing cricket he is making a mistake by sticking with this narrative of talks without some substance and clarity behind the framework of these talks and without a notion of pre-conditions or red-lines.
sir g to aap bata dein kidher gaye 20 billion???? sir g lage hote to nazar aate. Don't we know that our elites are one the most corrupt elites of the world. Lets not go into the details of root cause because everyone knows it. In the first 30 years of independance from colonial rule, a political struggle was going on for the Islamic identity of these countries in every Muslim country and it was a very positive sign and Muslims could have found the harmony between religion and modernity with the passage of time. Palestine and Kashmir were there but these were more or less localized problems and all of a sudden Soviets started again their colonial adventures by attacking Afghanistan and Capitalist world and secular elites of Muslim world decided to use Islam to fight this war for their own political interests. Wars create their own monsters and Taliban and other banned organizations are some of the examples. and Now these monsters are out of control from their secular gods. This is the root cause.

How to eridicate it???? there are two ways either go to war and give them also incentives as u mentioned multi pronged policy. For this, you need money so I think we should ask our dear friend America who was the creator of this conflict besides USSR, Saudia and Pakistan (yaani Attar ke usi londey se dawa leejey), to provide us agian with some money and expertise but our own politicians and institutions say that Pakistani state suffered more loss in terms of money than it got from America. If this is the case then please enlighten us how will this time this war be successful?
The 2nd solution is not agreements or Muzakaraat. It is a very simplistic formulation of what is needed. The 2nd solution is that our elite change its role and character which it has acquired since three centuries. Instead of continuing their role as a comprodor elite they at least become loyal to this country and their people. I don't say that they don't work for their interests because it would be unfair because every class search for its interests but what I suggest that they find and associate their interests with their own country. After that if they initiate talk they can be successful in defeating the militants either through dialogues or through military actions. magar 3 sadion ki aadat itni aasaani se chhoot jaye gee yeh na mumkin hai so status quo he rahe ga......Drone strikes,,,, taliban attacks,,,,,,limited operations,,,,lack of initiative on the part of politicians....is mein ho sakta hai mulk he haath se nikl jaye to yeh bhi mumkin hai
 
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Zaidi Qasim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Imran is a confused thing: Haroon Rasheed thrashes Imran Khan

sir g to aap bata dein kidher gaye 20 billion???? sir g lage hote to nazar aate. Don't we know that our elites are one the most corrupt elites of the world. Lets not go into the details of root cause because everyone knows it. In the first 30 years of independance from colonial rule, a political struggle was going on for the Islamic identity of these countries in every Muslim country and it was a very positive sign and Muslims could have found the harmony between religion and modernity with the passage of time. Palestine and Kashmir were there but these were more or less localized problems and Soviets started again their colonial adventures by attacking Afghanistan and Capitalist world and secular elites of Muslim world decided to use Islam to fight this war for their own political interests. Wars create their own monsters and Taliban and other banned organizations are some of the examples. and Now these monsters are out of control from their secular gods. This is the root cause.

How to eridicate it???? there are two ways either go to war and give them also incentives as u mentioned multi pronged policy. For this, you need money so I think we should ask our dear friend America who was the creator of this conflict besides USSR, Saudia and Pakistan (yaani Attar ke usi londey se dawa leejey), to provide us agian with some money and expertise but our own politicians and institutions say that Pakistani state suffered more loss in terms of money than it got from America. If this is the case then please enlighten us how will this time this war be successful?
The 2nd solution is not agreements or Muzakaraat. It is a very simplistic formulation of what is needed. The 2nd solution is that our elite change its role and character which it has acquired since three centuries. EIther of continuing their role as a comprodor elite they at least become loyal to this country and their people. I don't say that they don't work for their interests because it would be unfair because every class search for its interests but what I suggest that they find and associate their interests with their own country. After that if they initiate talk they can be successful in defeating the militants either through dialogues or through military actions. magar 3 sadion ki aadat itni aasaani se chhoot jaye gee yeh na mumkin hai so status quo he rahe ga......Drone strikes,,,, taliban attacks,,,,,,limited operations,,,,lack of initiative on the part of politicians....is mein ho sakta hai mulk he haath se nikl jaye to yeh bhi mumkin hai


Lol.... sorry I couldn't stop laughing even on the thought of this rather rich lounda !!!!! Look, mehruban, I wish if the people of my nation would use a bit of their God given Grey matter to understand this complex and '' Pur Ashoob" game which is being played around their lives. I can never forget the trapped human beings inside those containers which were being auctioned on the route to Afghanistan, and our elites in forces were pocketing the dollars in bundles by selling these masses of human beings. The dignity of humanity were on sale ,innocent or guilty , there was not a division...... The greed of getting more is the one which kills us all. And the greater greed requires greater conspiracy which our high command is never short of. God Bless Pakistan.....
 

jeosher

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Watch Haroon Rashid again Criticizes Imran Khan

mian saib za darta waema criticism na maney no ta way na!!


Imran khan apnay iraday ka pakka hai. Kal bhi dialogue ka keh raha tah aur aaj bhi. HR propaganda kar rahay hai. Isko apni bhi ghalti maanni chahiye jab is ne Media ki baatay sun kar Samad mursaleen k vote 17 thousand batae thay jabkay os ne 17 hundred vote liye thay.
 

Politcs

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Watch Haroon Rashid again Criticizes Imran Khan

Imran khan apnay iraday ka pakka hai. Kal bhi dialogue ka keh raha tah aur aaj bhi. HR propaganda kar rahay hai. Isko apni bhi ghalti maanni chahiye jab is ne Media ki baatay sun kar Samad mursaleen k vote 17 thousand batae thay jabkay os ne 17 hundred vote liye thay.

Iradey ka paka ya stupidness. Sometime you listen to others because they might be right and you are wrong. If I start thinking like IK and never listen to other points of view then I will not be able to spend more than two days with my wife. IK is not holy prophet and he is a man like us and he can be wrong and I am sure he totally wrong about Taliban.
 
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Re: Imran is a confused thing: Haroon Rasheed thrashes Imran Khan

Lol.... sorry I couldn't stop laughing even on the thought of this rather rich lounda !!!!! Look, mehruban, I wish if the people of my nation would use a bit of their God given Grey matter to understand this complex and '' Pur Ashoob" game which is being played around their lives. I can never forget the trapped human beings inside those containers which were being auctioned on the route to Afghanistan, and our elites in forces were pocketing the dollars in bundles by selling these masses of human beings. The dignity of humanity were on sale ,innocent or guilty , there was not a division...... The greed of getting more is the one which kills us all. And the greater greed requires greater conspiracy which our high command is never short of. God Bless Pakistan.....
Aap ki trah mera bhi hanste hanste bura haal ho gia hai. Bas kuch meherbaan hain jo umeed lagaye baithey hain keh yeh national elites (jin ke mufaad ab globalized ho chuke hain) kuch insaanon ka bhi sochen gee....
 
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Re: Imran is a confused thing: Haroon Rasheed thrashes Imran Khan

میری ناقص راۓ میں فوج جہادی نرسریوں و نیٹ ورک (تمام پاکستان میں ) کو ختم نہیں کرنا چاہتی تا کہ افغان طالبان کو حال اور مستقبل میں فاٹا میں سپلائی جاری رہے. لیکن جب ایک لڑکا فاٹا پہنچ جاتا ہے تو اب یہ فوج کے اختیار میں نہیں کہ وہ ٹی-ٹی-پی کے ہتھے چڑھ کر پاکستان میں پھٹے گا یا کہ افغان طالبان کے ہتھے چڑھ کر افغانستان میں. افغان طالبان بھی افغانستان کو بھول کر پاک فوج کیلیے ٹی-ٹی-پی سے لڑائی نہیں لڑیں گے. سارے طالبان خوش ہیں، کوئی ایک دوسرے کو نہیں چھیڑنے والا. البتہ اگر دو قسم کے یعنی شیعہ-سنی طالبان ہوتے تو شاید کام چل جاتا:)۔

٢- آفپاک بارڈر کی کیا بات ہے:)!یہ وہ پورس (سوراخ دار)بارڈر ہے جو اب تک امریکہ اور روس کو لڑا تھا. اب ہمیں یہ دن میں تارے دکھانے والا ہے، اگر افغانستان میں ہماری بھرپور مدد سے طالبان کی حکومت نہیں بنتی

حل: صبر. اگر افغانستان میں ہماری مدد سے طالبان کی حکومت بن جاتی ہے تو یہ' کام' ختم ہو گا، آہستہ آہستہ . لیکن طالبان کی پچھلی حکومت کی طرح پاکستان میں شیعہ ماری پھر بھی ختم نہیں ہو گی

یہ اوپری سوچ ہمارے جرنیلوں کی ہے کہ جو لاجیکل بھی لگتی ہے. لیکن اس دوران جو ہم پاکستانیوں کو روزانہ پھینٹا لگ رہا ہے تو اسکا ایک حل تو وہ ہے جو میں کرتا ہوں؛ یعنی کہ بم پھٹول کی خبر پڑھ کر کربلائی مرثیے سنے، چار آنسو بہاے اور تازہ دم ہو کر "نیکسٹ پلیز
Huzoor hamari fauj ko is se koi gharz nahi talebaan aaen ya un ka baap aaye. Woh chahte hain bas un ki dhaak bandhi rahe aur kuch maal paani koi nia hathyaar bhi milta rahe. Ab drone attacks per hamari fauj ka sara vaaveila kis liye tha. Is liye nahi keh log marr rahe hain balkeh mehez is liye keh kuch hamen bhi drones ka charrhawa charrha do mere malikkkkk....
 

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