How to Boycott Bank Alfalah

[sher_khan]

keeping in mind the quick firing of a pti-supporter for hurting the sensitive feelings of a dawn employee, i have decided to boycott bank alfallah.
the whole episode seems to be fishy.
ideally an employee should only be suspended during the time the complaint is being thoroughly investigated.
all the factors should be taken into consideration, including if any instigation took place.
one isolated incident without taking into consideration the behavior of all the parties involved in the controversy, should not be the grounds for dismissal.
hurting the feelings of a dawn employee via abusive language is not a crime.
yes, morally it is despicable, however the dawn employees also make despicable comments on social media without any consequences - i remember a dawn employee referring to the PSL team of lahore qalandars as lahore 'kanjars,' with immunity.
dismissal from employment for hurting feelings of an instigative dawn employee is a bit too heavy and harsh.
a severe warning or temporary suspension without pay would have suffice.

bank alfallah has demonstrated partiality.

here are the ways you can boycott bank alfallah;
1 - move your bank account to a different bank.
note: do not close your alfallah account right away. open a new account first and then slowly transfer your money to the new bank. otherwise it will become cumbersome.
2 - if you are an expat and send money to pak. don't use this bank
3 - if you are an expat and help family/families in pakistan, advise your acquaintances to switch to a different bank
4 - boycott all the tv shows which have this bank's ads on it.
5 - if there other ways to boycott this bank, please share it on this thread.


if the bank has decided to be intolerable to the abuse of only one political side, it should pay for it.

 

[bhaibarood]

Potiyan ka randii rona shuru ? ?
one begharata potiyan who abused him is already fired!
Get that moron job in other bank if you can ?

 

[Humi]

It is not just about hurting feelings of the Dawn employee. It is about dragging his mother and according to his other posts, dragging female relatives of many other twitter members into arguments in a derogatory manner as well. The dude has never met those female family members yet he felt he had the right to insult them.

 

[Dunkin Donut]

this guy is done. he will not be able to continue in any Bank or customer service industry at all!

 

[insouciant]

It doesn't matter whatever he said! Did he say that as the representative of the bank or in his personal capacity? Now will my employer also control what I do in my personal life?? Who should I meet after work and who should I marry or What should I say? Since when this started happening??

This guy needs to drag Bank Alfalah to the court for this and the Bank needs to apologize for their unjust act!!

It is not just about hurting feelings of the Dawn employee. It is about dragging his mother and according to his other posts, dragging female relatives of many other twitter members into arguments in a derogatory manner as well. The dude has never met those female family members yet he felt he had the right to insult them.

 

[sher_khan]

It is not just about hurting feelings of the Dawn employee. It is about dragging his mother and according to his other posts, dragging female relatives of many other twitter members into arguments in a derogatory manner as well. The dude has never met those female family members yet he felt he had the right to insult them.

that's not justification enough for a permanent dismissal.
read between the lines...it's about the clashes of economic classes.
dawn employees can abuse average people but the other way around is foul.

also, if you really have strong feeling against vulgarity and profanity against the females then you should look into the social and economic profanity against the pakistani women, rather than the linguistic ones.

dawn supports and enjoyed the ad revenues of the political parties that celebrate and promote patriarchy.
go to rural sindh where women are dying of malnutrition and birth mortality due to the wadera system of the PPP.
go to rural punjab where jirgas/panchayats allow women to be gang raped as a consolation of the actions of their male relatives. pmln protects this chaudry system.
count the number of women who attend pmln jalsas.
the above is the true profanity against the pak women.
beat the physical and economic abuse. linguistic abuse is secondary.
don't stand, hand-in-hand with organizations like dawn (and its employees) who earn ad monies from the chaudries and vaderas of pmln and ppp.

 

[Humi]

It doesn't matter whatever he said! Did he say that as the representative of the bank or in his personal capacity? Now will my employer also control what I do in my personal life?? Who should I meet after work and who should I marry or What should I say? Since when this started happening??

This guy needs to drag Bank Alfalah to the court for this and the Bank needs to apologize for this!!

Companies reprimand employees and refuse to hire them for their online conduct outside of working hours all the time nowadays. Usually because they have become a PR headache. It adds discomfort not just for the customer but fellow employees as well. At the end of the day, they are running a business and have no need to be tolerating such headaches. This is nothing new at all. His own mistake of associating his workplace with his derogatory behavior by not doing his abuse anonymously like most people do anyways. Also, there is zero chance of the bank issuing an apology for this.

 

[insouciant]

I'm not sure. But I need to check. Labor laws only allow an employer to discharge someone from responsibilities in lieu of gross misconduct/poor performance at work! And I doubt that Alfalah has taken prior consent from its employees on a signed paper that they can be fired on their behavior on social media!

If Alfalah wanted a headache free resolution, they would have just ignored this affair by issuing a statement that bank distances itself from the personal/social lives of its employees. Simple!

The very fact that it went out of its way to Fire the employee shows prejudice of the bank's HR towards Dawn or PMLN/PPP etc.!

If I was that employee, I would sue it for 1 Arab at least and take it to the court! And ask Alfalah then how's its headache now? ? ?

Companies reprimand employees and refuse to hire them for their online conduct outside of working hours all the time nowadays. Usually because they have become a PR headache. It adds discomfort not just for the customer but fellow employees as well. At the end of the day, they are running a business and have no need to be tolerating such headaches. This is nothing new at all. His own mistake of associating his workplace with his derogatory behavior by not doing his abuse anonymously like most people do anyways. Also, there is zero chance of the bank issuing an apology for this.

 

[NasNY]

As a PTI Supporter
Trust and Morals are are an integrate part of Banking, firing was justified.​

 

[Raiwind-Destroyer]

I'm not sure. But I need to check. Labor laws only allow an employer to discharge someone from responsibilities in lieu of gross misconduct/poor performance at work! And I doubt that Alfalah has taken prior consent from its employees on a signed paper that they can be fired on their behavior on social media!

If Alfalah wanted a headache free resolution, they would have just ignored this affair by issuing a statement that bank distances itself from the personal/social lives of its employees. Simple!

The very fact that it went out of its way to Fire the employee shows prejudice of the bank's HR towards Dawn or PMLN/PPP etc.!

If I was that employee, I would sue it for 1 Arab at least and take it to the court! And ask Alfalah then how's its headache now? ? ?

see the problem with this Humi is she lives in Canada and enjoys all the rights but she does not want those rights to be enjoyed by Pakistani especially if that Pakistani happens to be a man

 

[insouciant]

And instead of monitoring the trust and morality of the employees at work by checking which employee is opening "Benami" accounts in their bank, they should monitor it on the Social media feeds of their employees. Right? ? ? ?

As a PTI Supporter
Trust and Morals are are an integrate part of Banking, firing was justified.​

 

[insouciant]

Well.. This happens in the west too! But so do many other things. Like porn industry etc. But if something happens in the west then it doesn't make it right and justified here!

14 Canadians who were fired for social media posts - Workopolis Blog

If you're not careful, that post on social media can cost you dearly.

careers.workopolis.com

see the problem with this Humi is she lives in Canada and enjoys all the rights but she does not want those rights to be enjoyed by Pakistani especially if that Pakistani happens to be a man

 

[Raiwind-Destroyer]

Well.. This happens in the west too! But so do many other things. Like porn industry etc. But if something happens in the west then it doesn't make it right and justified here!

14 Canadians who were fired for social media posts - Workopolis Blog

If you're not careful, that post on social media can cost you dearly.

careers.workopolis.com

yes it does all the time but they have the right to go further and challenge that firing in most cases they lose but at least they can try

 

[NasNY]

And instead of monitoring the trust and morality of the employees at work by checking which employee is opening "Benami" accounts in their bank, they should monitor it on the Social media feeds of their employees. Right? ? ? ?

2 wrongs don't make a right.
If he was a noon supporter, we would be praising the bank

 

[Kamboz]

I'm not sure. But I need to check. Labor laws only allow an employer to discharge someone from responsibilities in lieu of gross misconduct/poor performance at work! And I doubt that Alfalah has taken prior consent from its employees on a signed paper that they can be fired on their behavior on social media!

If Alfalah wanted a headache free resolution, they would have just ignored this affair by issuing a statement that bank distances itself from the personal/social lives of its employees. Simple!

The very fact that it went out of its way to Fire the employee shows prejudice of the bank's HR towards Dawn or PMLN/PPP etc.!

If I was that employee, I would sue it for 1 Arab at least and take it to the court! And ask Alfalah then how's its headache now? ? ?

It will be hard to fight such lawsuit in Pak.
However, this fellow was in a rage in many of the tweets and then he messed up with our Upper Class folks such as this Zaidi dude, who knew the head of Alflalah. I personally think this guy kind of deserves it. Being a CA, he had to exercise control on use of abusive language.

 

[insouciant]

Agreed! Similarly, it is WRONG that an employer becomes the judge of my personal conduct and life out of work!

If I murder or rape someone outside work, should police/courts punish me for it or my employer? Yes, once I am convicted, my employer can say that he fired me because we don't hire a convict! But no law gives the right to the employer to be the judge of someones out of office conduct!

The right process, in this case, would have been to register a compalint against the said employee under harassment/cyber crime laws etc. If once he was convicted, then Alfalah was justified in firing him!

2 wrongs don't make a right.

 

[insouciant]

This is what I think too! It has more to do with personal influence/revenge from the journalist than Bank acting out of morals! Read my above post. I have no problem if due process was followed for his removal! But this is victimization. Free speech is legal, but victimization is illegal. And that's why I'm raising the voice for the employee!

It will be hard to fight such lawsuit in Pak.
However, this fellow was in a rage in many of the tweets and then he messed up with our Upper Class folks such as this Zaidi dude, who knew the head of Alflalah. I personally think this guy kind of deserves it. Being a CA, he had to exercise control on use of abusive language.

 

[sher_khan]

People trying to make moral, legal and intellectual discussions out of this issue.
It is none of the above.
It is political.
Dawn employees can call Lahore Qalandars, Lahore Kanjars without any reprimand from its employer.
Dawn employees like the Dyed Hair Zaidi uses foul language on a chronic basis, without any reprimand from its employer.
There was a grey haired Zaidi who referred to Imran Khan's third wife as a new cricket ball. He was not reprimanded.

Don't take this issue on a moral, legal or intellectual basis.
It is purely political. One side perpetually gets away with the abuse and the cries foul when it is on a receiving end.
This is an issue of entitlement and nepotism.
These - the rich and their affiliates - will always show us our "place."
How dare we talk back to them?
We should just absorb their abuse and never retaliate.
A trait common among the politically corrupt leaders of Pakistan.
There is a reason behind the ideological marriage of the politically corrupt and Dawn News.
The sense of Entitlement.....

 

[sher_khan]

One additional recommendation of mine is to start a contact with this fired PTI supporter and advise him to start a go fund me campaign.

We should fund his legal battle against the bank and zaidi.
Especially, Zaidi's referral to the claim that the pertinent accountant fudges accounting figures. He did this on a public forum. The calim should be proved by the dyed haired zaidi or legal damges should be paid.

Can the Siasat.PK initiate a contact with this PTI supporter?

 

[Eyeaan]

It is not just about hurting feelings of the Dawn employee. It is about dragging his mother and according to his other posts, dragging female relatives of many other twitter members into arguments in a derogatory manner as well. The dude has never met those female family members yet he felt he had the right to insult them.

To make it clear i have zero information about the incident other than this post and the following comments.
The issue is not what happened between two private parties - or how our feelings were hurt. There is a proper legal channel if anyone's rights were abused. But is a private employer the right forum to file the complaint? Is it appropriate to drag a private employer to it?

The issue is the alleged action of the bank administration - Would you allow an employer to monitor private social media communication or be a party to a private conflict on the social media? Where is the end? What is the criteria? -- In this very case, obviously, being a member of a powerful media group was sole deciding factor- IMO, Alflah was blackmailed by a powerful group.

Of course you may respond that it is the sole prerogative of a private employer - but perhaps I may disagree -- imo, the employees have right in all type of organizations and there ought to be rules for fairness.