Hassan Nisar "A Traitor?" What do you guys think?

jh_haroon

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
What do you think about "Hassan Nisar"?

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Nepali Pandit

MPA (400+ posts)
Why you have so many traitors in Pakistan...........looks like you guys have made a big factory for producing traitors. Or you just have the habit of calling traitor to anyone speaking truth or speaking against your long held belief.
 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
This very old issue and clip. we have discussed it in past.
Please think about future of Pakistan and Muslims and donot waste time in stupid discussions.
 

patriot

Minister (2k+ posts)
Hassan Niasar is not a traitor he is more patriotic than any of us.
He is just showing us the mirror but we don't like the image in it.
 

jh_haroon

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
@ patriot
And what you say abt his comments on Dr. Abdul Qadir Khan?


Alhamdulillah our history is more brighter then his descriptions.
 

sshahid

Siasat.pk - Blogger
I didn't know HN this way. Ironic. These type of people lose mental balance and unable to take both negatives and positives into account or look things into proper perspectives.
 

habib22

MPA (400+ posts)
Nisar is himself a bigest choore because he steal words and take mony from the enmay of pakistan and try to confuse the nation i am not angery on him but he is a mental person only those who can not come up in knolodge they bring others down by calling"CHoore"
 

sarbakaf

Siasat.pk - Blogger
why is he traitor ?
what makes him traitor ?

just coz he says we live in past makes him traitor .........
just coz he criticises even religious leaders is he traitor ?
or just coz he has got a big mouth is he a traitor ?
how many of his comments were based on lie ??????

if people can not answer him .....does that make him traitor..........

or is he traitor because we have no patience to listen to his bitter words.....

to me he is not a traitor ...........rather he is among those few journalists who can speak with a loud voice at any forum.............
 
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Guest

Guest
the problem with some people trying to label Hasan Nisar as a "traitor" is because he says the truth and the most bitter truth!
v should have balls to listen to the truth..its time v muslims forget about the glorious past and try to make a glorious future...
Hasan Nisar is 200% right!!!
 

patriot

Minister (2k+ posts)
jh_haroon said:
@ patriot
And what you say abt his comments on Dr. Abdul Qadir Khan?


Alhamdulillah our history is more brighter then his descriptions.
AQ Khan is a true hero of our nation, no doubt about it.
But HN says simply that he has not invented anything. He has only collected parts from different parts of the world and has made a reactor to enrich uranium and the resultant nuclear arms.
And it was obviously not an easy task. It is this work, we all recognize and commend him for. It is what makes him a hero.

I think it was wrong of HN to call AQ Khan a thief, because if he is a thief then all but German scientists are thieves.

Regarding Muslim history, he is right that we have not given the world anything beneficial for the last five hundred years.

We all know that the West had not made progress in either science or technology if Muslims had not laid the foundations for them. But it was the times. We can not sit and dream of a time which has passed. Better to think about what went wrong and change it.
As Allama Iqbal expressed it for us:
Thay tau aba woh tumhare hi Magar tum kia ho
Hath pur hath Dhare muntazare furda ho. :)
 

pigeon

Voter (50+ posts)
patriot said:
Hassan Niasar is not a traitor he is more patriotic than any of us.
He is just showing us the mirror but we don't like the image in it.







see another view of a patriot Pakistani



zubair_chachar zubair_chachar
Member


Re: Can we forgive Jinnah & Iqbal


I think this Debat should be over

Pakistan has two problem,
one
its people does not welcome true criticism , thats why we have no true information about

that time but there are many sources you can study..... we should welcome true critics

i.e Bhutto was good in sense of Muslim coz he was against America and EU ....... But at

the same time he was responsible of division Pakistan in 1971 with army but people blame

only army he was responsible of hatred between Sindh and Punjab but v does nt know..

Two
Pakistan followed Iqbal`s theory of religious and haterd , it left its founder vision and

Pakistani Refugee PM kept Quaid in house arrest and kill him with poison this is a great

reality of time , and slowly history prove it you will know it ..when Quaid dead body

brought to Karachi there were no man without local comesioner to stand on maripur and

ambulance was punchered ......was it legacy of founder of country , Refuge PM shoud

collect body but he was in sleep..........

it is only way to create a great Pakistan follow Quaids Speech of 1940 , All States of

Pakistan ( not provinces ) will be independent in their way and hold their resource for

them and they have right of review coalition and split with federation after every 10

years.

But Pakistan follow Iqbal principle of Punjabi Dominancy (Iqbal says in Allahabad Sindh,

Punjab Baluch and NWFP should be Pakistan) because of most Punjabis in British India

force .. And it inherits by Pakistan. Why west Pak became Bangladesh although it was

most strategic for Indian dominance but it contradict Iqbal`s vision of Punjabi dominance

BD has more population then West pak. That time NFC was on the resource basis but now

it is on population basis, mind it

But you cant hold fake Punjabi federation on power basis, follow Quaid and gave states

status to province like in Russia, gave them independence in their own resources. Then

Pak become great it is the only solution we can stand together ..
 

Arrow

Citizen
No he is not a traitor. What prompts you to call him a traitor?
Yes you can disagree with him on issues.
But traitor...
ah come on grow up....
 

Star Gazer

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Nepali Pandit said:
Why you have so many traitors in Pakistan...........looks like you guys have made a big factory for producing traitors. Or you just have the habit of calling traitor to anyone speaking truth or speaking against your long held belief.

Recall the commentys by indians on the post where Jaswant Singh is talking about a possible third division of india!!!
 

pigeon

Voter (50+ posts)
you people should thank GOD in society like yours where DEATH fatwas by mullah
are quiet common ,you have brave person like HASSAN NISSAR.
who dare to say something.


the u tube video you are showing to counter him just prove HN right.
you should have given these proof by some your text book contexts which
your kids study at school and feel proud,
videos by muslims scholars. videos made by u peoples.

why you have have to show the videos made by western people not by u
which you often say they are biased.


don't just start jumping by achievements of other muslims societies 1000
year old achievements. still today you guys are far behind from them.

what you as a pakistani nation achieved and gave to muslim and other world.

you people have undermine the name and cause of islam by your double standards.

HN is a patriot Pakistani,at least respect him for the sake of being a pakistani.
 

avatar

Councller (250+ posts)
dosoroon ko traitor khane wale pata ni khud kitne bary mohibwatan hain. Ye wo jihoon ne na kabi pakistan kylie kuch kia tha ur na karen ge. Certificate denewale apne giraban main jhanken.
 

pigeon

Voter (50+ posts)
sobia403 said:
Nepali Pandit said:
Why you have so many traitors in Pakistan...........looks like you guys have made a big factory for producing traitors. Or you just have the habit of calling traitor to anyone speaking truth or speaking against your long held belief.

Recall the commentys by indians on the post where Jaswant Singh is talking about a possible third division of india!!!







Jaswant singh is a politician groomed in BJP's philosophy by saying these things
he is making fool of you people.don't be too optimistic.

he want to get attention of u people and sell his book about jinnah in pakistani
and make more money.
he already released his book's international version for overseas pakistani's in london
last week.who will buy his book for $200 but will not donate $10 to back home
pakistan.
you will consciously buy his book about jinnah will find nothing new
and feel cheated and he would already have made millions of dollars.
and next year he will apologies to advani and will back in BJP by saying "bharat mata ki jai"
 

khan afghan

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
This person should be brought to justice>He is swearing to the HERO of pakistan.Hassan Nisar himself is CHOR.I never read his column.I never watch his tv talk show,not now but before long.When i look at his face it is full of NAHOOSATH.The best thing to defeat such chor ,haram khor is to boycot his talk show and his column.And also dont give too much attention to such a person.KHud he khatham hojaiga.A lot came and gone under the tonns of mud.
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
patriot said:
jh_haroon said:
@ patriot
And what you say abt his comments on Dr. Abdul Qadir Khan?


Alhamdulillah our history is more brighter then his descriptions.
AQ Khan is a true hero of our nation, no doubt about it.
But HN says simply that he has not invented anything. He has only collected parts from different parts of the world and has made a reactor to enrich uranium and the resultant nuclear arms.
And it was obviously not an easy task. It is this work, we all recognize and commend him for. It is what makes him a hero.

I think it was wrong of HN to call AQ Khan a thief, because if he is a thief then all but German scientists are thieves.

Regarding Muslim history, he is right that we have not given the world anything beneficial for the last five hundred years.

We all know that the West had not made progress in either science or technology if Muslims had not laid the foundations for them. But it was the times. We can not sit and dream of a time which has passed. Better to think about what went wrong and change it.
As Allama Iqbal expressed it for us:
Thay tau aba woh tumhare hi Magar tum kia ho
Hath pur hath Dhare muntazare furda ho. :)
Calling him a traitor would be going over the top a bit however his way of talking is highly objectionable. He is talking about Mohsin e Pakistan as if he is talking about his personal servant, even servant deserves a better attitiude.
Just imagine if we did not had nuclear assets, India would have no fear and with American collusion, would have done everything to harm us.
One must ask Hassan Nisar, what is your contribution in to Pakistan, apart from promoting Ahmediat.