Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
These indian fellas can say whatever they feel like but our response gets deleted?

The same is happening with me See the message below as a case in point:

This is the message that was sent:
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Hi wadaich,

The post that you created in the following thread has been deleted

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Post ID: Lagta Jimpack ko "Cow colla" Charha hoowa hay....
Thread: For Indian members of this forum (http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?t=43023)
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I feel this is the right time to say goodbye with grace.
When Money overrides Ideology then a graceful decision needs to be taken.
 

JewayPakistan

MPA (400+ posts)
you can claim as indians are fastly following path of europians and americans.They dont feel shame in incest relations.Their Pujaris s*x vedios are on net.They have fast growing AIDS victims.They feel proud to naked in public.They dont have values.
 

az.ay

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Incest: India’s shameful social heritage

It was a national debate on a news channel. Tempers were running high, so were the decibels. The subject was explosive – Haryana’s khaps and their diktats. In the midst of this charged atmosphere, a voice rose above the rest, silencing them all. Seema, a law graduate and resident of Karora village, made an allegation that changed the course of the debate. Her brother had been executed for marrying a woman from the same gotra, but that was not what Seema wanted to talk about on the primetime show. It was another shameful reality of Haryana villages she wanted to expose – incest.


“Khaps should look into their homes before passing fatwas on lovers and crying hoarse about honour. Incest is rampant in the state and virtually every home is affected. Where is the honour anyway ?” she screamed.


Early this week, the state was shocked when a pregnant girl was strangled by her parents and her body dumped on the outskirts of Bahadurgarh in Jhajjar district. Her crime: she was reportedly having an affair with her brother-in-law and her vengeful elder sister had complained to their parents.


In another embarrassing case earlier this year, a farmer in his early 50s developed a sexual relation with his 30-year-old daughter-in-law in a village in Kaithal district. Their liaison continued for almost a year. The matter even reached the village panchayat, which ordered separation of the two unlikely partners so that the woman could go back to her husband.

And only last month, Sonepat was jolted by the gruesome murder of two minor girls, just 12 and 14. They were killed and their bodies flung in a canal by their uncles and grandmother after their “affair” with a cousin was exposed. The police said the kin of the victims were enraged when they allegedly caught the minors getting intimate with their cousin. In Yamunanagar, a girl complained to the police that her father-in-law had raped her just a few months after her marriage.


These are not isolated incidents: incest is reportedly a real part of life in rural Haryana. “It’s a menace nobody wants to talk about. Even the elders are setting a bad example, ” says D R Chaudhary, member of the Haryana Administrative Reforms Commission. The elders, predictably, blame this perversion on the growing sway of the west over the state’s youth.

When Kurukshetra-based Ramesh Kumar’s daughter married a close relative, he blamed it on urban influence. Now he is fighting a legal battle to have the marriage declared null and void, terming it a contravention of the provisions of the Hindu Marriage Act, 1955. The mothers of the newly-wed couple were apparently related, being granddaughters of the same person.

The incidence of incest may be higher in rural areas. “Social mores in villages are different. People here are very conservative and there is no scope for interaction between men and women and boys and girls outside their homes. So, they often end up having relationships with members of their accessible, extended family, ” says Balbir Singh, a social activist in Fatehabad district.

Experts believe that such relationships have survived behind closed doors for many years. But given the modern means of communication and the proliferation of the media, the skeletons are now tumbling out of family cupboards.
The youth, interestingly, believe that incest is a traditional practice and not a new reality. “Yeh to hame virasat mein mili hai (incest is a part of our tradition), ” says Naresh Kumar, a villager in Rohera in Kaithal district. Sociologists, in turn, say that the ethnic history of the region is full of such instances.


“In the pre-Independence era, in some parts of north India, the father-in-law almost had the right to physical relations with a daughter-in-law, and in most cases the female was not in a position to resist much. The very young husband also had no say in the matter. Sharing of the wife by brothers was also not uncommon, ” says Ravinder Kaur, a professor at IIT-Delhi.


What adds to this problem in Haryana is its skewed sex ratio caused by rampant female foeticide. “Its effects are now being felt on intimate relationships within and without the family. The shortage of marriageable women can have many unintended consequences, especially when only one out of four men find a bride (as in the case of Haryana) in their own community, ” adds Kaur.


Kumar’s 35-year-old nephew, Roshan, is yet to get any offers for marriage. “We are at a loss, wondering what to do, ” says Kumar. A growing army of bachelors has become a problem in the state, leading to more illicit relations.


Yet, there seems little the government and social organisations can do about this. Haryana has not seen any strong social movement in recent years and there are very few NGOs working on such issues. While a Haryana court was quick (it took three years) to deliver the death penalty to five khap members accused in the sensational murder of Manoj and Babli in March this year, it took a Bhiwani court around five years to give its verdict in a shocking case of incest that surfaced almost a decade ago.

In a letter to Bhiwani senior superintendent of police, an 18-year-old girl spoke of how her father and cousin exploited her sexually for seven months. “My father used to rape me. Not only this, my uncle and his son too sexually assaulted me, ” stated the girl.

“My mother was usually sent to sleep in another house and I was made to sleep with my father. My mother was not aware of all this. When I told my boyfriend and he objected, my father and cousin beat him up and also got a false case registered against him. When I threatened to go to the police, I was locked up, ” she wrote in the letter.


It was only after the girl said she would tell her mother that she was released from her confinement. The girl then ran away with her boyfriend and a case of abduction was slapped on the boy. Nobody knows where the couple is today.


Chilling tales of incest and abuse have been pouring in from all over the state. Inquiries reveal that physical relationship with a husband’s brother is not considered ‘unusual. ‘ “Such relations are not objected to. They are considered a family’s ‘internal affair’, ” says Prem Singh, a farmer-leader from Kaithal.


In a study conducted by the UNICEF in 2001 to gauge the context of abortions involving 83 adolescent girls in the age group of 10 to 19 years in Rohtak district, it was found that incest was a common cause. “It was responsible for pregnancies in 16 per cent of the cases. We have even had cases of girls getting pregnant through their kin, including fathers and brothers, ” says Sonia Trikha, who’s associated with the UNICEF. Many feel the situation has worsened in the last decade.


Leaders of gotra-based khap panchayats blame the law for protecting those who are guilty of incest. “A scheduled caste girl had run away with a boy from her family. Later, they married and even got police protection, ” says Badan Singh, leader of the Kalayat khap. Another prominent leader, Om Parkash Dhankar, president of the Dhankhar khap, complains about new social trends: “Illicit relationships are on the rise. Even a Supreme Court ruling spoke of permitting live-in relationship without marriage. “


But Seema blames the khaps for shifting the focus from the real problems. “The problem, ” she says, “is not of love marriages, or marriages within gotras and villages, but incest. Marrying out of choice is not a crime, incest is. Khap leaders should be addressing the problem of incest and check this evil instead of hounding people who are in love. “


The Times of India
 
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zjamal

Voter (50+ posts)
tum indians ko hum itne he bure lagtay hain ya humari agar koi value dunya main nai hai to bar bar forum p akay dimag kiun chatte ho...apna forum kiun nai khol lete...tum log 100% better ho hum se to hum mai mat ghoso na...apne logo me raho....phir bar bar is forum p akay kia nikalna hai....asal mai baat ye hai k tum log khush hote ho agar hum problems mai hoon ya humare mulk k halat khrab hoon, humare log bomb blasts mai marain, floods aaen, to tum log bohat khush hote ho..isi liay bar bar yahan ghuste ho ye dekhne k hum abhi bhi museebat main hain k nai....dil ko thand perti hai na tum logo ko jab confirmation ho jati hai k haan yaar abhi bhi mushkil main hain....aik baat main clear ker doon...humare forum p hum apne mulk ki problems discuss kerte hain ya dosre foriegn affairs discuss hote hain...kabhi bhi india ki khabrain highlight ho k nai lagain coz we have our own issues to discuss...humare pass tum logo ki tarah sazashain kerne ka time nai hai k her time india ko rote rahain...ye post bhi is liay hoi hai coz tum log her jaga akar hum p tanqeed kerte ho is liay ye batane k liay videos post ki hain k tum logo k mulk mai bhi masle hain...humari taraf itna interest show kerne ki zaroorat nai hai...tum logo k dramas dekh k he tum logo ke dimago ka pata lagaya ja sakta hai k kitne sazshi ho.....JESA STAR PLUS WESE STAR INDIA....
 

abbasiali

Minister (2k+ posts)
A real disappointing thread, let me ask the initiator of this thread,

Why did you initiate this thread, have any of Indian member did any offense in this forum to you, I believe you simply joined and started this hatred and our regular member feels pride to joined this nonsense.

Ok friends let me confess I am an Indian agent as well as Yahoodi lobbiest, and making very big money, (I am sure this will make you feel more satisfying) so please don't waste your time to prove me as same I mentioned above, I know you guys have no answer except start blame game.

I will wait for a while for this initiator's responser and then will close this thread.
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
lol, It seems after dealing with Pakistan Cricket Team, News of World investigative journlist had been on your case and you are just pre-empting tomorrow's edition with all these revelations and categoric admissions :)

There had been many bad news in last few days and Indian members created not just one but a few threads on each one of these incidents, this thread creation seems to be a counter attack, didn't get much attention as real news remained the thread created by Indians.

You won't have to lock as a thread is automatically killed when a Shurta (moderator) makes himself visible on any thread.

BTW this year Eid party is on you, you just confirmed huge earnings :lol:
 

az.ay

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
A real disappointing thread, let me ask the initiator of this thread,

Why did you initiate this thread, have any of Indian member did any offense in this forum to you, I believe you simply joined and started this hatred and our regular member feels pride to joined this nonsense.

Ok friends let me confess I am an Indian agent as well as Yahoodi lobbiest, and making very big money, (I am sure this will make you feel more satisfying) so please don't waste your time to prove me as same I mentioned above, I know you guys have no answer except start blame game.

I will wait for a while for this initiator's responser and then will close this thread.


Respected moderator. I am seeing a lot of Indians peddling only negative and demoralizing content against Pakistan and Pakistanis on this website. Kindly take a look at the following threads and posts made by Indians:

http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?43088-counter-culture-Many-pakistani-youth-giving-up-Islam

http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthre...liban-says-we-did-it-Pak-says-no-India-did-it

http://www.siasat.pk/forum/search.p...9667&starteronly=1&contenttype=vBForum_Thread (All topics started by "yeh mera india")

http://www.siasat.pk/forum/search.p...7381&starteronly=1&contenttype=vBForum_Thread (All topics started by "jimpack")

http://www.siasat.pk/forum/search.p...9356&starteronly=1&contenttype=vBForum_Thread (All topics started by "dil-se-desi")

Please have a look at each and every topic started by them. These are just some of the ring of Indians who are posting here nothing but demoralizing topics on this forum. We can't let them hijack this website to their designs. We need to make them know their own country before they can belittle ours.
 
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Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
A graceful response instead of childish one is requested please.

A real disappointing thread, let me ask the initiator of this thread,

Why did you initiate this thread, have any of Indian member did any offense in this forum to you, I believe you simply joined and started this hatred and our regular member feels pride to joined this nonsense.

Ok friends let me confess I am an Indian agent as well as Yahoodi lobbiest, and making very big money, (I am sure this will make you feel more satisfying) so please don't waste your time to prove me as same I mentioned above, I know you guys have no answer except start blame game.

I will wait for a while for this initiator's responser and then will close this thread.

Respected moderator. I am seeing a lot of Indians peddling only negative and demoralizing content against Pakistan and Pakistanis on this website. Kindly take a look at the following threads and posts made by Indians:

http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?43088-counter-culture-Many-pakistani-youth-giving-up-Islam

http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthre...liban-says-we-did-it-Pak-says-no-India-did-it

http://www.siasat.pk/forum/search.php?searchid=5714705 (All topics started by "yeh mera india")

http://www.siasat.pk/forum/search.php?searchid=5714775 (All topics started by "jimpack")

http://www.siasat.pk/forum/search.php?searchid=5714830 (All topics started by "dil-se-desi")

Please have a look at each and every topic started by them. These are just some of the ring of Indians who are posting here nothing but demoralizing topics on this forum. We can't let them hijack this website to their designs. We need to make them know their own country before they can belittle ours.

Dear Moderator,

Would you please enlighten us as to why are you shattered, disturbed and screaming in panic when the India's fourth generation cyber army is given a befitting response, while you have been enjoying the attacks of these planted Indians on this forum with a cheeky smile?

I have suggestion for you. Please ban all the Patriotic Pakistanis on this forum who are defending the ideological fronts of Pakistan and revel with your Indian Cyber Army Buddies.

And it is understandable, as some of the people sitting overseas have no stakes in Pakistan as they are safe and sound there. And the ones who have, the Moderators should kick them out of this forum to allow the Indian attack freely to their heart content.

I Hope I Will be first person to be banned on this forum.
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
A real disappointing thread, let me ask the initiator of this thread,

Why did you initiate this thread, have any of Indian member did any offense in this forum to you, I believe you simply joined and started this hatred and our regular member feels pride to joined this nonsense.

Ok friends let me confess I am an Indian agent as well as Yahoodi lobbiest, and making very big money, (I am sure this will make you feel more satisfying) so please don't waste your time to prove me as same I mentioned above, I know you guys have no answer except start blame game.

I will wait for a while for this initiator's responser and then will close this thread.

Abbasi bhai

Iqbal ka kya sher hai woh?

zuban-e-khalq ko naqqara-e-khuda samjho (aur close to it)

We always thought this was a Pakistani forum. Many member will witness that this forum seems to be slipping away to Indians. May be or may be not because of their advertising dollars, nonetheless this is the general consensus is.

Indians are very active here and on all Pak forum. I always believe they are actually volunteer/employee of the Indian govt unleashed for the purpose of taking over Pakistani forums and/or harassing Pakis. All this slips away from under your eyes.

I even took a survey and 9 out of ten Pakis voted to ban Indians. But you quickly closed the thread. What kinda reputation do you think you established in Pakis hearts?

Even yesterday one of my post was deleted citing 'off topic' subject. When I asked the moderator to send me the post I was told 'I dont remember'

look pal, you are just not protecting your and our common turf - Pakistan.

I always tell it like it is. I know you might be furious and hot under the collar reading tehse comments but I must write as I see fit, not as you would like to hear. I hope you understand

Salam

Gazoo
 

bons

Minister (2k+ posts)
I think Indian members are not from Indian Public rather they are paid agents of Indian agencies. If you closely monitor their behavior you will also come to the same conclusion. If someone still insists that they are not agents then tell me their motive of coming here. Indian public have problems of their own and they don't have so much free time to constantly monitor a Pakistani web site and strategically post threads and reply to different posts.

It is very important that we show them their ugly faces in the mirror and keep them in defensive mode. Otherwise they will get a chance to launch another concerted offensive against us. So brothers, continue the good work and keep these "ghus bathias" busy.
 
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Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
I think Indian members are not from Indian Public rather they are paid agents of Indian agencies. If you closely monitor their behavior you will also come to the same conclusion. If someone still insists that they are not agents them tell me their motive of coming here. Indian public have problems of their own and they don't have so much free time to constantly monitor a Pakistani web site and strategically post threads and reply to different posts.

It is very important that we show them their ugly faces in the mirror and keep them in defensive mode. Otherwise they will get a chance to launch another concerted offensive against us. So brothers, continue the good work and keep these "ghus bathias" busy.

A serious question for the moderators if the indians are not their buddies.
 

bons

Minister (2k+ posts)
The same is happening with me See the message below as a case in point:

This is the message that was sent:
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Hi wadaich,

The post that you created in the following thread has been deleted

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Post ID: Lagta Jimpack ko "Cow colla" Charha hoowa hay....
Thread: For Indian members of this forum (http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?t=43023)
Reason:
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I feel this is the right time to say goodbye with grace.
When Money overrides Ideology then a graceful decision needs to be taken.

Aray Wadaich bhai,
Dil chhota nahi kartay.
Why shall we leave, we are Pakistanis and it is our site. We shall kick these Indian ghus bathias out of here. Just keep showng them their ugly faces and they will be pissed. Otherwise jootay khatay rahain gay.
 
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Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
تینوں تاپ چڑھے میں ہونکاں

Aray Wadaich bhai,
Dil chhot nahi kartay.
Why shall we leave, we are Pakistanis and it is our site. We shall kick these Indian ghus bathias out of here. Just keep showng them their ugly faces and they will be pissed. Otherwise jootay khatay rahain gay.

God Bless You! May Allah save you from all the testing times.

The Moderators may not like to answer me. Would you please request the moderators on my behalf to add something into my poor knowledge as to why they are hurt and cry (cry)like babies and set all the manners aside and hunt the patriotic pakistani when the Indian cowards:133::smashfreakB: are hit hard:smashfreakB:? The situation seems to me like this Punjabi idiom:


تینوں تاپ چڑھے میں ہونکاں

Fever = تاپ
The sounds a person suffering from fever utters = ہونکاں
 

az.ay

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)

Not a day passes by when some 'higher-up' from the Indian government blames the Kashmir's independence uprising on Pakistan.

This video, however, shows the amount of torturous force being used by Indian army on anti-India protesters in Manipur.

My question here is: Are these poor Manipur protesters funded by Pakistan?
 

Night_Hawk

Siasat.pk - Blogger
A real disappointing thread, let me ask the initiator of this thread,

Why did you initiate this thread, have any of Indian member did any offense in this forum to you, I believe you simply joined and started this hatred and our regular member feels pride to joined this nonsense.

Ok friends let me confess I am an Indian agent as well as Yahoodi lobbiest, and making very big money, (I am sure this will make you feel more satisfying) so please don't waste your time to prove me as same I mentioned above, I know you guys have no answer except start blame game.

I will wait for a while for this initiator's responser and then will close this thread.

Mr. Ali Abbasi could you please clarify the following if you can.
" Ok friends let me confess I am an Indian agent as well as Yahoodi lobbiest, and making very big money, (I am sure this will make you feel more satisfying) so please don't waste your time to prove me as same I mentioned above, I know you guys have no answer except start blame game."

I do not believe it a bit.
If you made this statement that you were just kidding, it not good for a Muslim to make such a statement.
I hope it not true.
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Mr. Ali Abbasi could you please clarify the following if you can.
" Ok friends let me confess I am an Indian agent as well as Yahoodi lobbiest, and making very big money, (I am sure this will make you feel more satisfying) so please don't waste your time to prove me as same I mentioned above, I know you guys have no answer except start blame game."

I do not believe it a bit.
If you made this statement that you were just kidding, it not good for a Muslim to make such a statement.
I hope it not true
.

Oh Come on Brother, he' been writing sarcastically.
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
brothers/isters

stop fighting please. There is a simple solution to it.

Every Pakistani put every Indian in their ignore list, allah allah khair sallah. Yeh kaunsi bari baat hai.

Do we have to read their posts. If the posts are anti Pak, so be it. they are attention grabber and will leave if they find no attention. Like nana/dada always taught us: Whachya dont see dont hurt

I have got all except tow in ignore. These two have not tested my patience to the limit yet. When that happens they will be in my iggy bin
 

az.ay

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)

Does India really need its multi-billion dollar defence deals and the ever increasing nuclear stockpiles? If the Indian government doesn't care, international community does.
 

az.ay

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)

The secular India, which claims itself the world's largest democracy, is in fact the world's largest concentration of poverty and religious intolerance. My prayers for the Christians, Sikhs and Muslims of India.
 

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