'FLOTILLA' ISRAEL attacks aid ship headed for Palestine - [Update: Israel rejects UN multinational i

ConcernedPakistani

MPA (400+ posts)
The day Pakistan gets any leader who is ready to lead Pakistanis with honour and dignity, then Pakistan will get out of being a slave and lead the Muslim World. At the moment all Pakistani leaders have a slavish mentality, look at Nawaz Sharif, Zardari, Altaf Hussain, ANP, Musharraf, Religious parties, Imran Khan everyone says and thinks USA is the master and Pakistan is the slave and there is no way out of it.
 

aqeel813

Minister (2k+ posts)
The day Pakistan gets any leader who is ready to lead Pakistanis with honour and dignity, then Pakistan will get out of being a slave and lead the Muslim World. At the moment all Pakistani leaders have a slavish mentality, look at Nawaz Sharif, Zardari, Altaf Hussain, ANP, Musharraf, Religious parties, Imran Khan everyone says and thinks USA is the master and Pakistan is the slave and there is no way out of it.

I don't think that including Ik in this list would be fare. As the statements are concerned, he has been the most responsible person so far and as far as the actions are concerned, he has not been tested yet.
 

ConcernedPakistani

MPA (400+ posts)
he has been the most responsible person so far and as far as the actions are concerned, he has not been tested yet.

It is true that he hasnt had the chance yet but he, like other politicians in Pakistan, never dares to go against Israel in public. Why look to USA for help or approval?
 

biomat

Minister (2k+ posts)
Salam guys. mr weber have send me PM, i am waiting for his approval to post it here, if he does, i will post his reply about irish ship & peaceful control of MV Rachel Corrie by israeli commandoes..
 

Spartacus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I don't think that including Ik in this list would be fare. As the statements are concerned, he has been the most responsible person so far and as far as the actions are concerned, he has not been tested yet.



IK Aik Aasa Kartoos Hay Jo Baghair TEST Kay EXPIRED Ho Gaya Hay.
Now IK has only chance if he is ready to join MUSHARRAF again as he did before ( If Musharraf is also ready to accept him , I think Musharraf will accept him with some conditions ).This was last time in 2002 he got a seat because of him and MUSHARRAF wanted him to be PM but our SECRET AGENCIES did not allow MUSHARRAF.
IK took this against him and he was against MUSHARRAF.
Some stupid think that because MUSHARRAF supported USA on Sept.11 ,2001 and that is why IK was against MUSHARRAF.( IK supported MUSHARRAF even atleast till REFERENDUM 2002).
Till that time IK and MUSHARRAF thought that IK will be PM and MUSHARRAF will be PRESIDENT but IK has been rejected by AGENCIES. ( Bad Luck for him ).
 

biomat

Minister (2k+ posts)
Salam guys, after mr weber approval i am posting his words sent to me by PM message.
biomat bhai,
1. As you all know that the Israeli forces have ceased another ship that was heading towards Gaza.

2. But, please observe that this time there was no bloodshed, everything went smoothly.
Compared to the earlier incident this was more...civilized.

3. Friends, lets compare the two scenarios...
In both scenarios, there were some constants and some variables...

Constants: a) Brave Israeli forces.
b) boats heading towards Gaza.

Variables: a) The flotilla had a number of pseudo-humanitarians, pseudo-human rights activists. (Peaceful people and humanitarian workers don't try and lynch armed soldiers or anyone for that matter.)

b) The Irish ship had true humanitarians on board. They peacefully protested and did not physically attack the soldiers.

4. There as we can see when we compare both the incidents, Israel cannot be blamed for the unfortunate deaths that occurred on the flotilla boats.
The Israeli soldiers were provoked by Islamofascists that were posing as humanitarian workers.

5. I request you not to be influenced by propaganda against Israel.
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bhai weber, as per your say what international cargo ships should do against SOMALI PIRATES.. ??
any MATHEMATICAL EQUATION (3. Friends, lets compare the two scenarios...
In both scenarios, there were some constants and some variables...)
Any similarity equation???
 
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Murshad Jee

Guest
IK Aik Aasa Kartoos Hay Jo Baghair TEST Kay EXPIRED Ho Gaya Hay.


چلو تمہارے مطابق وہ استعمال کرنے کے قابل تو تھا لیکن اس کی نوبت آنے سے پہلے ہی ایکسپائر ہو گیا
لیکن
تمہارا کارتوس تو بیچارہ پیچھے سے ہی پھٹا ہوا آیا تھا لیکن اب بین لاقوامی ایجنسیاں اسے استعمال کے قابل بنا رہی ہیں

 

Waseem

Moderator
Staff member
Flotilla activist: 'We never saw any knives'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/middle_east/10210250.stm

German pro-Palestinian activist Norman Paech has said he only saw wooden sticks being brandished as Israeli commandos abseiled on to the deck of the Mavi Marmara.

Eyewitness accounts from ships raided by Israeli commandos have cast doubt on Israel's version of events that led to the deaths of at least 10 people.

Israel says its soldiers were attacked with "knives, clubs and other weapons" and opened fire in self defence.
 

biomat

Minister (2k+ posts)
[video]http://ht.cdn.turner.com/cnn/big/world/2010/06/05/rajpal.london.protest.cnn_640x360_dl.flv[/video]
 

Spartacus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

چلو تمہارے مطابق وہ استعمال کرنے کے قابل تو تھا لیکن اس کی نوبت آنے سے پہلے ہی ایکسپائر ہو گیا
لیکن
تمہارا کارتوس تو بیچارہ پیچھے سے ہی پھٹا ہوا آیا تھا لیکن اب بین لاقوامی ایجنسیاں اسے استعمال کے قابل بنا رہی ہیں


If you know how did you get this corrupt NAWAZ and ZOORDARI , in the name of democracy ,as a ruler in 2008 , you would also realise , this was USA who was behind all of this game ( Particularly DICK CHENY)
I am giving you 7 out of 10 points. Musharraf is trying to prove to west and particularly to USA that he is the best for PAKISTAN and for the west , as soon as he will get success , he will back to Pakistan.He will go through all democratic process to get PM post to serve PAKISTAN. This time he will be PM and not PRESIDENT.
 

aqeel813

Minister (2k+ posts)
IK Aik Aasa Kartoos Hay Jo Baghair TEST Kay EXPIRED Ho Gaya Hay.
Now IK has only chance if he is ready to join MUSHARRAF again as he did before ( If Musharraf is also ready to accept him , I think Musharraf will accept him with some conditions ).This was last time in 2002 he got a seat because of him and MUSHARRAF wanted him to be PM but our SECRET AGENCIES did not allow MUSHARRAF.
IK took this against him and he was against MUSHARRAF.
Some stupid think that because MUSHARRAF supported USA on Sept.11 ,2001 and that is why IK was against MUSHARRAF.( IK supported MUSHARRAF even atleast till REFERENDUM 2002).
Till that time IK and MUSHARRAF thought that IK will be PM and MUSHARRAF will be PRESIDENT but IK has been rejected by AGENCIES. ( Bad Luck for him ).

What a comparison!!! I may disagree with some of the actions of IK but still he is the only honest person remaining. Aur janab kya khabar nikal k laay hen. kamal ker diya aap ne to. Aisi theory create ki ha jese agencies ne aap he se ijazat le k sara kuch kiya ho. Aisay references diay hen jin ko verify krna b chaho to na ker sako. Aap to baday nteresting khwab dekhtay hen raat ko jis mein musharraf aur IK aur agencies aap ko sab kuch bta k jati hen. kya kashf ka ilm b rakhtay hen janab!!!!!!?????
 

aqeel813

Minister (2k+ posts)
It is true that he hasnt had the chance yet but he, like other politicians in Pakistan, never dares to go against Israel in public. Why look to USA for help or approval?

Dear brother, how is it even possible to rule out a person before even seen him working!!! Jahan tak rahi statements ki baat to mein ne aik cheez hamesha note ki ha. jab b kahin b koi b incident hota ha aap foren jang news ki website pe jaen. muzammat ki sab se pehli statement janab Hazrat Altaf Hussain ki taraf se hoti ha, but what difference has it ever made??? aisa lgta hota ha jese janab ne aik bnda isi kaam k liay bithaya hua ha.. but did it ever serve any purpose!!!!
 
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Murshad Jee

Guest
If you know how did you get this corrupt NAWAZ and ZOORDARI , in the name of democracy ,as a ruler in 2008 , you would also realise , this was USA who was behind all of this game ( Particularly DICK CHENY)
I am giving you 7 out of 10 points. Musharraf is trying to prove to west and particularly to USA that he is the best for PAKISTAN and for the west , as soon as he will get success , he will back to Pakistan.He will go through all democratic process to get PM post to serve PAKISTAN. This time he will be PM and not PRESIDENT.

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Spartacus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
What a comparison!!! I may disagree with some of the actions of IK but still he is the only honest person remaining. Aur janab kya khabar nikal k laay hen. kamal ker diya aap ne to. Aisi theory create ki ha jese agencies ne aap he se ijazat le k sara kuch kiya ho. Aisay references diay hen jin ko verify krna b chaho to na ker sako. Aap to baday nteresting khwab dekhtay hen raat ko jis mein musharraf aur IK aur agencies aap ko sab kuch bta k jati hen. kya kashf ka ilm b rakhtay hen janab!!!!!!?????

IK possesses good qualities no daubt. He will be better than alot of political people.
1.IK supported MUSHARRAF on 12 oct. 1999.....................Yes
2.IK supported MUSHARRAF,s REFERENDUM 2002............. yes
3.Kea IK MUSHARRAF Kay Saath Nahee THa......................Yes , he was
4.IK stoped his support to MUSHARRAF only because he knew that has no chance any more to be PM
5.His chance took by SHOUKAT AZIZ and that is why he is very against SHOUKAT AZIZ...IK always said SHORT CUT AZIZ TO SHOUKAT AZIZ.
6.About CERTIFICATE from AGENCIES , you should not worry ask any of big political party , you will know I am right.
 

Star Gazer

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Good but surprising that israel now wants to solve the problem "peacefully". Why could they not think of it a week ago??
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Terrorism is Israeli right Secular Democratic Human Right Champion America

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oscar

Minister (2k+ posts)
*******Breaking News: Altaf Hussain nay next Gaza ship par janay ka ilaan kar diya.*********


Note: I am not responsible of any shock deaths due to this news.
consider sarcasm alert.
 
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sshahid

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Mr. Erdogan, I salute you sir. You are standing up for the week and distressed people. May Allah help you and make us all to follow your lead, specially leaders of other Muslim countries.
 

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