gazoomartian
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Isn't ShaheedChaudhary and Indian member? me think so
firdous ashiq awan and sania mirza
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shaheedchoudry
Minister (2k+ posts)
yes, read any of his biography(please not the one from pakistan) and you will find it out. Wikipedia may be a good start.
shaheedchoudry
Minister (2k+ posts)
FISRT OF ALL YOU GOT MY NAME WRONG. ITS SHAHEEDCHOUDRY. SECONDLY I DON'T EVEN KNOW INDIAN MEMBER. I THINK I CALLED JINNAH NON MUSLIM AND THAT MAKES ME INDIAN MEMBER RIGHT?
Jinnah was the eldest of seven children born to Mithibai and Jinnahbhai Poonja. His father, Jinnahbhai (1857–1901), was a prosperous Gujarati merchant who had moved to Sindh from Kathiawar, Gujarat before Jinnah's birth.[10][11] His grandfather was Poonja Gokuldas Meghji,[12] a Hindu Bhatia Rajput from Paneli village in Gondal state in Kathiawar. Jinnah's ancestors were Hindu Rajput who converted to Islam.[11] Jinnah's family belonged to the Ismaili Khoja branch of Shi'a Islam,[4]
NOW WHY DON'T YOU DO SOME RESEARCH ABOUT ISMAILI KHOJAS? I HAVE MET PLENTY OF THEM AND THEY DON'T CLAIM TO BE MUSLIMS.
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Knowledge Seeker
Senator (1k+ posts)
shaheedchoudry said:
Are you sure that All articles on Wikipedia are well scrutinized for reliability?It is strange that to prove him non-Muslim, you want to avoid the people who were with him till his last period of his life. I hope that you already know that Main Funeral Prayer of Muhammad Ali Jinnah (May Allah bless him) was led by Sheikh Shabbir Ahmed Usmani (Rehmat Ullah Alaihi) in the presence of many renowned Islamic Scholars of that time so let me know if is it permissible to offer Namaz-e-Janaza of Non Muslim according to Islam??
Knowledge Seeker
Senator (1k+ posts)
Brother, My post was not directed to you but I appreciate your contribution for Islamic ruling.
awan4ever
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Good work Sania!
Thank you for putting this whole crap fest to rest and puncturing my over excited countrymen's bloated egos!
She has married Shoaib, koi bhaag ker nahi aye. Lets not treat her as a 'trophy'. Give her some real respect.
All over the media we are giving this false impression that we are giving her respect by welcoming her but in reality hamaray dil mein laddoo phoot rahay hein that 'india ke beti' ko hamara jawan 'chuk' ker lay aya like its a goddman Punjabi film!
Please grow up.
And Firdaus Ashiq Awan is the biggest douchebag in Pakistan right now!
Thank you for putting this whole crap fest to rest and puncturing my over excited countrymen's bloated egos!
She has married Shoaib, koi bhaag ker nahi aye. Lets not treat her as a 'trophy'. Give her some real respect.
All over the media we are giving this false impression that we are giving her respect by welcoming her but in reality hamaray dil mein laddoo phoot rahay hein that 'india ke beti' ko hamara jawan 'chuk' ker lay aya like its a goddman Punjabi film!
Please grow up.
And Firdaus Ashiq Awan is the biggest douchebag in Pakistan right now!
Jinnah was Muslim and we dont't have any right to call someone kafir without any knowlege. Secondly Jinnah never said religion and politics should be seperate .Now come to the main point. Why are we jumping to the conclusion.We should see things in their context. She is indian and there's nothing wrong in that .she is shoaib's wife and you can't change it.She just said she is wife of shoaib and she is indian .Did she say she is not muslim ? Why we getting so serious on this issue .Get a life
that's the best anaylsis some1 could give . Good job
shaheedchoudry
Minister (2k+ posts)
Yes, wikipedia can be edited by anyone in the world. Rulers, Kings, Presidents, PMs and leaders always have "sarkari molvis" around them. Shabbir Usmani was no different than Abu al Fazal (molvi of Akbar Badshah) or Abdul Qadir Azad(molvi of Zia ul Haq).
Okay, I will make it short. Please provide me some proof that he was a muslim. condition: proof may not be printed in Pakistan.
here's the translation of headline . '' Sania Mirza says she is a wife of shoaib malik not a daughter in law of Pakistan'' hope that helps
Well I aboslutely agree with you about your analysis about Sania Mirza. She is right to say she is indian as she was born there.Deep in her heart she definitely like pakistan otherwise she wouldn't pick a pakistani guy in these gloomy days for sure. In future if her marriage life is affected ,would she be able to go back to india where her family belongs to if she abondens India for pakistan .It should make sense to people .. Also she can make more money playing for India lol
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shaheedchoudry
Minister (2k+ posts)
welcome to this debate sir. Read it carefully. I never said jinnah was kafir as you quoted me. What do you mean when you say without any knowledge? Don't we all know jinnah and his life. That is public knowledge. When you say get a life........what does that mean. You are saying i don't have a life? You are jumping to conclusion without knowing me. I have a very good life and i understand that slang.
Get a life doesn't mean how's your life . It means you could do many things better then what you are doing now. Don't take it out of context . i said this in regards to what you are discussing here. I don't know if it's in public knowlege but it's not to my knowledge and millions would still disagree with you.
Jumping to conclusion was about your reaction on Sania's statement. Being Muslim she has a right to marry any muslim anywhere in the world .That's her personal decision whoever she chooses. She should represent her motherland who she owes a lot .same goes to Shoaib. She said she married a pakistani not a pakistan and i don't see anything wrong in it .Why people are getting so emotional with such statements. God knows
shaheedchoudry
Minister (2k+ posts)
i know what get a life means. I answred it out of context and otherwise also. But you went off the track. Can you check all above my statements. Where did i bring sania's religion up?
Knowledge Seeker
Senator (1k+ posts)
shaheedchoudry said:
Even if your assumption about Sheikh Shabbir Ahmed Usmani(RA) suppose to be correct but still it would not be helpful to justify your statement about Muhammad Ali Jinnah (May Allah bless him) "jinnah was not Muslim". It has been established as a broad day light that Sheikh Shabbir Ahmed Usmani(RA) performed the Namaz-e-Janaza of Jinnah in presence of overwhelming crowd including many Islamic Scholars and the People who spent their life with Jinnah specially in Last days of his life. Islamic Scholars have been visiting his grave and making Dua-e-Maghfarat for him since his death. Scholars have not objected on his status of Islam since his death till today.According to Islamic ruling, It is enough proof of someone to be Muslim.
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The truth of Firdaus Ashiq Awan
Firqaus Ashiq Awan is a federal minister for population & welfare who represents Sialkot she was PML-Q member who turned 'lota' became part of Peoples Party as a 'parliamentarian', this video shows her 'real' self, and her mentality. If Sania Mirza would've seen this video she probably would've refused to even be in the same frame with this shameful beast:
Discussing her behaviour:
Firqaus Ashiq Awan is a federal minister for population & welfare who represents Sialkot she was PML-Q member who turned 'lota' became part of Peoples Party as a 'parliamentarian', this video shows her 'real' self, and her mentality. If Sania Mirza would've seen this video she probably would've refused to even be in the same frame with this shameful beast:
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