I said Indians, not hindus. And Ertugrul did exist, but other than that there is almost no historical record of him or his feats. At best he is feats are a legend like BeowulfIndians believe in Hinduism which is completely false.There were no Ram,Krishna,Hanuman yet you can't convicne Hindus because that is what they are taught to believe. etc.Ertugrul did exist.He was a real person.
No one can deny that Ertugrul's struggles
Ertughral was a pagan. If he was muslim then why empire was in the name of othman rather than fantasy ertughral. there is no history of this idiot.
Ertugrul is a hero and watching this serial has give people a sense of pride.
Why is admin allow posts from pagans.
According to Historians, Ertugrul wasnt even a Muslim. His decadents later accepted Islam for political reasons. Its not going to make much of a difference though because reality is a word that doesn't exist for most Pakistanis.
SHUT UP PLEASE ! DO you know what was the religion of your forefathers, definately they were not muslims and at some point they accepted Islam. So what does it make them less Muslim. What a stupid debate you brought up, why are you trying to create a FITNA, or trying to belittle an honorable Muslim, who did a lot for Muslims and earned the the reputation that world recognizes? Ertugrul is a Hero, He was a Muslim "Alhamdolillah" and we must respect our heroes without trying to involve them in our nasty illetracies. I am sure at this time who ever brings these types of subject is an agent of non muslim powers who are scared of this Drama, which has revised the energy in Muslim ummah by opening the eyes of every one with the real history of how the KHILAFAT was back stabbed and what were the bans put on Muslims for 100 years, that are about to end in 2023 Inshallah and Mualims may try to recapture their lost heritages and respects.
According to Historians, Ertugrul wasnt even a Muslim. His decadents later accepted Islam for political reasons. Its not going to make much of a difference though because reality is a word that doesn't exist for most Pakistanis.
According to Historians, Osman was the first Muslim in that lineage.
According to Historians, Ertugrul wasnt even a Muslim. His decadents later accepted Islam for political reasons. Its not going to make much of a difference though because reality is a word that doesn't exist for most Pakistanis.
The guy is an admitted atheist and makes no qualms about it. Just by false allegations you cannot shut down debates which you don't like, learn to listen to other peoples point of view no matter how much you oppose it and if you can counter it with logical counter arguments. Just by throwing around labels of hindu, jew, qaidiani etc etc does not invalidate the discussion or the poster. Rather shows you have run out of ammo and are shooting blanks.ERTUGRUL WAS MUSLIM or Not but its for sure Qadiyani Dajjals are murtad and NON-MUSLIM.
Don't worry too much about Ertugrul, soon you will know in the grave after death.
Stop spreading lie like your political asylum.
The guy is an admitted atheist and makes no qualms about it. Just by false allegations you cannot shut down debates which you don't like, learn to listen to other peoples point of view no matter how much you oppose it and if you can counter it with logical counter arguments. Just by throwing around labels of hindu, jew, qaidiani etc etc does not invalidate the discussion or the poster. Rather shows you have run out of ammo and are shooting blanks.
He's admitted Qadiyani.The guy is an admitted atheist and makes no qualms about it. Just by false allegations you cannot shut down debates which you don't like, learn to listen to other peoples point of view no matter how much you oppose it and if you can counter it with logical counter arguments. Just by throwing around labels of hindu, jew, qaidiani etc etc does not invalidate the discussion or the poster. Rather shows you have run out of ammo and are shooting blanks.
Convince him of what?He's admitted Qadiyani.
Keep doing the logical arguments, lets see if u can convince a liar.
As I said already who knows who he was but the fruit of his struggles was kilafat e usmani and the spread of Islam. That is why he deserves all our respect.O bhai konsi dunya me rehte ho? There is no historical text of anything related to Ertugrul and anything he did in his life. So he might as well be a shop keeper somewhere we will never know because he was not important enough to be written about.
Wow! big deal eh!
According to Historians, Ertugrul wasnt even a Muslim. His decadents later accepted Islam for political reasons. Its not going to make much of a difference though because reality is a word that doesn't exist for most Pakistanis.
As I said already who knows who he was but the fruit of his struggles was kilafat e usmani and the spread of Islam. That is why he deserves all our respect.
As it is said a tree is judged by the fruits it bore.
I am only giving him credit for the islamic empire that followed because of his struggles.If you want to give him credit for bedding his mother than okay im with you on that
But other than that there is nothing we can say
the islamic empire that followed because of his struggles.