Eestablishment had directly interfered to achieve its desired results - Syed Munawar Hasan

Sohraab

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: فوج نے مرضی کے نتائج حاصل کیے

munawar hassan mery leader nahi mera leader imran khan hay lekin munawar hassaan nay pti kay dil ki tarjamni ki hay jo mouqaf imran khan ka houna chiay tha wo munawar hassan sb nay ikhtiyar kia ......hum such bolnay per munawar hassan sb ko salute kerty hian....khan sb per army nay haroun rashid kay through result tasleeam kerny ka dabioo dala .....iss mulk mian assal hukmrani fouj kay pass rahi hy haroun rashid hameesha sy fouj ka tattu raha hy..
pti ko tabah kernay main koi kasar nahi chori uss nay

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Sohraab

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: فوج نے مرضی کے نتائج حاصل کیے

munawar hassan mery leader nahi mera leader imran khan hay lekin munawar hassaan nay pti kay dil ki tarjamni ki hay jo mouqaf imran khan ka houna chiay tha wo munawar hassan sb nay ikhtiyar kia ......hum such bolnay per munawar hassan sb ko salute kerty hian....khan sb per army nay haroun rashid kay through result tasleeam kerny ka dabioo dala .....iss mulk mian assal hukmrani fouj kay pass rahi hy haroun rashid hameesha sy fouj ka tattu raha hy..
pti ko tabah kernay main koi kasar nahi chori uss nay

Yaar dil to barra machal raha tha ke un haroon ur rasheed ke chahne wale members ka naam bhi loon , lekin main already in shakayati Tattttu members ki wajjah se bohut baar admin ki taraf se Ban , Warn ho chuka hoon

Na mardoon ke supporters bhi saale na mard hi hain
 

zhohaq

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: فوج نے مرضی کے نتائج حاصل کیے

JI will never make a breakthrough same reason PTI will NEVER make a breakthrough.

The system will NEVER EVER allow it.

So be content with the crumbs..

Munawar Hasan pointed out the source of the problem,
while others do ai bai shai sometimes blaming Fakhru,Blaming CJ,RO,DRO, Media and what not.
 
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[email protected]

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: فوج نے مرضی کے نتائج حاصل کیے

ECP was made by pmln &ppp so they hve to work for them, even CJ take notice & give verdict then who's gonna impliment, so only hope was from army(only insitute powerfull enough to implement) but this kyiani disapointed me...
 

desan

President (40k+ posts)
Re: فوج نے مرضی کے نتائج حاصل کیے

Peoples mandate has been stolen, and
culprits are still at large....
 

zhohaq

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: فوج نے مرضی کے نتائج حاصل کیے

I have great respect for Munawar Hassan, There was rigging big time but Army was involved? I dont agree.

Yes Army did not stop when rigging was happening because they were not been given orders. Army was there only on call they were not the administrator.


BUT THEY WERE GIVEN ORDERS Specific orders. They decided one day before to not to obey them (as usual).

See Fakhru Press Conferance from Election Night. Rest he said was nonsense but one thing stood out.

"If you give me security I will give you fair elections"



Read this news from one day before elections:

http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-n...3/cec-asks-coas-to-review-polls-security-plan


CEC asks COAS to review polls security plan


May 10, 2013
Sikander Shaheen


islamabad - In a categorical expression of concern just ahead of the general elections, the C[HI]hief Election Commissioner Justice (Retd) Fakhruddin G Ebrahim has expressed dissatisfaction over the military’s election security plan and asked the Army chief to review it.[/HI]
The development follows written communication between the CEC and the Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani originated by the former to express reservations over what he reportedly believes are the compromised security measures inadequate to ensure foolproof security on May 11th. The CEC has asked the COAS to have the military troops appointed at the highly sensitive and sensitive polling stations in order to avert any security lapse. In its security plan made public on Tuesday and Wednesday in the respective Press briefings in Karachi and Lahore, the military leadership had decided for not deploying any troops at the polling stations and using the military troops only as a quick response force.
[HI]The apparently strange decision had reportedly caught the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) with surprise, which believed that the troops deployed at the polling stations under potential security threats was not only essential to ensure foolproof polls security[/HI] in the wake of ever-rising graph of terrorism, deploying the concentrated number of troops at certain highly sensitive polling stations[HI] was already agreed upon between the military leadership and the ECP management. [/HI]When approached, Fakhruddin G Ebrahim refused to share any details on the issue while confirming having written the letter to General Kayani.
[HI]“I write what I had to. Better not dig any deep into it. That’s a sensitive matter so all the relevant details should be kept classified,”[/HI] he said, adding, that the deteriorating security situation was the ECP’s prime concern. “How could free and fair polls be possible when the security situation is so volatile? It has to be taken care of.” The abduction of Ali Haider Gilani, the former Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani’s younger son, from his electoral constituency in Multan during his political campaign on Thursday is reported to have further mounted the ECP security concerns. Moreover, according to an ECP top source, the military had recently assured the ECP that the troops deployment at the polling stations would be made as desired by the Commission when the electoral body had shared its security recommendations with the General Headquarters (GHQ).
[HI]The Commission’s concerns over the military’s security plan are also linked with the reported lack of compliance by the military authorities during the voters verification campaign in Karachi. “We had to face a lot of problems in Karachi. There were so many complaints coming from our field staff during the voters verification exercise regarding the security threats due to the absence of the military troops in several areas,”[/HI] the ECP official informed.
[HI]“We don’t want this to happen again. Who is to be held responsible if, God forbid, any untoward incident happens on the polling day? Everybody would be pointing fingers at us,” [/HI]the official said ,adding, that the Commission was being repeatedly blamed for the continued security lapses despite, he said, maintaining law and order and security provision were the domain of the Federal and Provincial Governments.
Last year, the ECP had sought military’s assistance for the provision of security during the general polls. Although, the military command had extended to the poll body its ‘full support’ for the elections,[HI] it had refused to provide security at all the polling stations across Pakistan[/HI], contending that only highly sensitive and sensitive polling stations would be guarded by the Army troops.
Last month, the military leadership, in consultation with the Ministry of Interior, floated the option of using Pakistan Army as quick response force on the polling day but with the concentrated troops deployment at the polling stations facing potential security threat. This was agreed upon by the ECP.
However, in the Tuesday and Wednesday briefings by the Director General Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR) Major General Asim Saleem Bajwa, [HI]the military looked to have amended its security plan without reportedly consulting the ECP.It unilaterally decided not to deploy any military troops at any polling station throughout the country and merely rely on aerial surveillance.[/HI]
This has not gone well with the electoral body against the backdrop of the rapidly deteriorating security situation prevalent presently.




ARMY planned the rigging. You have to be very guilable to think other wise.
 
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hawkkhan

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: فوج نے مرضی کے نتائج حاصل کیے

BUT THEY WERE GIVEN ORDERS Specific orders. They decided one day before to not to obey them (as usual).

See Fakhru Press Conferance from Election Night. Rest he said was nonsense but one thing stood out.

"If you give me security I will give you fair elections"



Read this news from one day before elections:

http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-n...3/cec-asks-coas-to-review-polls-security-plan


CEC asks COAS to review polls security plan


May 10, 2013
Sikander Shaheen


islamabad - In a categorical expression of concern just ahead of the general elections, the C[HI]hief Election Commissioner Justice (Retd) Fakhruddin G Ebrahim has expressed dissatisfaction over the militarys election security plan and asked the Army chief to review it.[/HI]
The development follows written communication between the CEC and the Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani originated by the former to express reservations over what he reportedly believes are the compromised security measures inadequate to ensure foolproof security on May 11th. The CEC has asked the COAS to have the military troops appointed at the highly sensitive and sensitive polling stations in order to avert any security lapse. In its security plan made public on Tuesday and Wednesday in the respective Press briefings in Karachi and Lahore, the military leadership had decided for not deploying any troops at the polling stations and using the military troops only as a quick response force.
[HI]The apparently strange decision had reportedly caught the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) with surprise, which believed that the troops deployed at the polling stations under potential security threats was not only essential to ensure foolproof polls security[/HI] in the wake of ever-rising graph of terrorism, deploying the concentrated number of troops at certain highly sensitive polling stations[HI] was already agreed upon between the military leadership and the ECP management. [/HI]When approached, Fakhruddin G Ebrahim refused to share any details on the issue while confirming having written the letter to General Kayani.
[HI]I write what I had to. Better not dig any deep into it. Thats a sensitive matter so all the relevant details should be kept classified,[/HI] he said, adding, that the deteriorating security situation was the ECPs prime concern. How could free and fair polls be possible when the security situation is so volatile? It has to be taken care of. The abduction of Ali Haider Gilani, the former Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilanis younger son, from his electoral constituency in Multan during his political campaign on Thursday is reported to have further mounted the ECP security concerns. Moreover, according to an ECP top source, the military had recently assured the ECP that the troops deployment at the polling stations would be made as desired by the Commission when the electoral body had shared its security recommendations with the General Headquarters (GHQ).
[HI]The Commissions concerns over the militarys security plan are also linked with the reported lack of compliance by the military authorities during the voters verification campaign in Karachi. We had to face a lot of problems in Karachi. There were so many complaints coming from our field staff during the voters verification exercise regarding the security threats due to the absence of the military troops in several areas,[/HI] the ECP official informed.
[HI]We dont want this to happen again. Who is to be held responsible if, God forbid, any untoward incident happens on the polling day? Everybody would be pointing fingers at us, [/HI]the official said ,adding, that the Commission was being repeatedly blamed for the continued security lapses despite, he said, maintaining law and order and security provision were the domain of the Federal and Provincial Governments.
Last year, the ECP had sought militarys assistance for the provision of security during the general polls. Although, the military command had extended to the poll body its full support for the elections,[HI] it had refused to provide security at all the polling stations across Pakistan[/HI], contending that only highly sensitive and sensitive polling stations would be guarded by the Army troops.
Last month, the military leadership, in consultation with the Ministry of Interior, floated the option of using Pakistan Army as quick response force on the polling day but with the concentrated troops deployment at the polling stations facing potential security threat. This was agreed upon by the ECP.
However, in the Tuesday and Wednesday briefings by the Director General Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR) Major General Asim Saleem Bajwa, [HI]the military looked to have amended its security plan without reportedly consulting the ECP.It unilaterally decided not to deploy any military troops at any polling station throughout the country and merely rely on aerial surveillance.[/HI]
This has not gone well with the electoral body against the backdrop of the rapidly deteriorating security situation prevalent presently.




ARMY planned the rigging. You have to be very guilable to think other wise.


I have read it thoroughly and as per the column it show that Army pulled out there troops from Polling stations and the decisions were on the last day.

I dont dispute with out good information :) so let me get back to you in this, the questions i am asking my self are?

1 Army pulled out from security fine but were they actually involved in rigging?
2 if ECP knew even a day before then why they did not stopped the election BIG REASON no security ?
3-personally seen videos where Army officers were on polling station, where they came from, and as per Mufti sahab Army officers done rigging themselves, where they came from.
4 when ECP knew that it was rigged election then why they said that it was fair election.
5 Did army wanted to have Nawaz sharif Government ( THIS IS A BIG QUESTION MARK FOR ME)

Brother these all questions are for my self :) . May be you are right but needs to confirm it
 

Jazaheer

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: فوج نے مرضی کے نتائج حاصل کیے

You hate it for sure! no problems! but why do you hate them? They dont have a terrorist wing neither they have been involved in corruption! they strive for islamic govt. in pakistan not the mullah govt though! So what's wrong with them?

200 seats JI ko detay phir theek tha??? People hate you and your ideology, accept it.
 

Mir Jaffer

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: فوج نے مرضی کے نتائج حاصل کیے

You hate it for sure! no problems! but why do you hate them? They dont have a terrorist wing neither they have been involved in corruption! they strive for islamic govt. in pakistan not the mullah govt though! So what's wrong with them?
DO you know about their ideology and their "modus operandi"??? They have done enough damage from Afghanistan upto bangladesh. If you donot know then read about their organization and hateful ideology.
 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Re: فوج نے مرضی کے نتائج حاصل کیے

اگر فوج نے ا تنی ہی بے ایمانی کی ہے تو محترم منور صاحب کو استفیٰ دینے کی کیا ضرورت تھی ؟؟؟

مزید یہ کہ کیا جمات اسلامی نے کبھی اس سے زیادہ سیٹیں لی ہیں ، مارشل لا کے علاوہ

اب ہر وقت تو مارشل لا کی چوری نہی ملتی نا​
 

Jazaheer

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: فوج نے مرضی کے نتائج حاصل کیے

I know! both the acts you have mentioned were pro Pakistan! Mazalims by Jamaat in Bengladesh are false accusations only! like any patriot they took up the weapons as a last resort and by the way those were also bengalis but their faith and ideology made them as "us"

DO you know about their ideology and their "modus operandi"??? They have done enough damage from Afghanistan upto bangladesh. If you donot know then read about their organization and hateful ideology.
 

v r imran k

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: فوج نے مرضی کے نتائج حاصل کیے

Syed Munawwar Hassan ne Yeh Bayan de kar bohut Zinda zameeri , Aqal mandi , aur Wattan se mohabbat ka saboot diya hai




iak siyasi leader satatsmen ka biyan hy...yahi farq hota hy siyasatan mian wo time ko dekh ker chout lagata hy ...in mian bahtreen siasyatdan sheikh rashid choudry shujaat ikhlaf k bawjoud shah mahmood qureshi our javed hahsmi ..yay wo loug hian jo siaysat ko smjty hian

khan sb ko chiay smq ko agay lian un ka biyan nappa tula jacha tula ziada hota hy
 

v r imran k

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: فوج نے مرضی کے نتائج حاصل کیے

yaar aap ki yeh post is Qabil hai jis ko 100 baar Like karna chahiyee

aik aik lafz aap ki samajhdari aur darust direction ko point out karne ko daleel karta hai

Bohut khoob (clap)

thnx brother aap nay mujay iss qabil smjha ..........izzat afzai ka shukriya ...mujay jo bat such lagti hay keh deta hun kehny ko mian pti ka supporter worker hun lkein ager ziadat our ghlat bat pti main b ho to khul ker bat karian gy.......imran khan nay yahi sikhaya hay pti koi family party nahi yay awam ki party hay yahan sub barabar hian....iss party kay andar merit our sirf merit ho ga.......aik worker ko b jurrat ho gi apni bat kerny ki our party kay barry ko unki bat usnnai ho gi our munsib smjhain to worker ki riay ka iehtram b kairan gy ......yahi culture hum paksitan mian chaty hain,,jahan sirf insaaaaaaf ho merit hoo..to uss ka aghaz sub sy phlay hamay apni party sy karna ho ga
 

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