Compare Altaf Hussain With Other Leaders of Pakistan Or Prove Him Wrong

[mrBonga]

Here We can see your low mentality..
haha Bro, In this VDO Altaf Hussain demanded a Judicial inquiry of the Massacre of 12th may//
Plz Be a MAN>.

i am not saying about his funny takreer but funny english.

 

[Ammad Hafeez]

اسے منافقت نہیں سچائی کہتے ہیں
نواز لیگ اور طالبان دونوں پاکستان اور افغانستان سے امریکہ کا انخلا چاہتے ہیں
منافقت تو اسے کہتے ہیں کہ بادشاہ کسی اور ملک میں رہے اور رعایا کسی اور میں
بادشاہ سلامت کو سارا بھتہ وقت پر ملتا رہے​

Jb Ikhilaa Chahtey hain toh US day mei Cake kaat q rahe hain??? Kia yeh Khulaa Teezaad nai??
Bhai PMLN wale ho toh baat toh thk krliya kro :D

Note: Cake Kat'tey waqt Khadim-e-Alaa barey mazey se lady k hanthon ko dkhrahe hain..

 

[abbasiali]

Mr. Spartacus ! A gangster and killer always belongs to middle and lower middle classes. Altaf Bhai was in lower middle class while he was undergoing metamorphosis. He was a killer then but quickly transformed himself into a don, so he is out of middle class now. However naturally his allies ought to be from lower classes so that no one challenges him in the near future. But the tactics remained the same. With strict discipline and blind-faith in its ranks, MQM enjoys forced public support by propaganda and terror. If you compare him with Nawaz Sharif and Zardari.. you will certainly know that their fore-fathers also belonged to middle classes but now they are elite. Killings, abductions and Bhatta Khori are the jobs executed by underlings, upon the orders of leaders like AH.

I always compare MQM with National Socialist Party of pre-war Germany (The Nazis). Hitler was very popular amongst the masses. He ruled with might and stick and had full propaganda machinery for brainwashing middle class Germans. If you ponder on their model , you will find Nazis full of middle class and workers. Hitler like Altaf Hussain also needed ethnic slogan to stir up the public support, however he consolidated himself on German nationalism, while AH had to rely on Mohajir nationalism. So Hitler's nationalism was not in a broad sense dangerous to Germany, while AH's aims are to deepen the ethnolinguistic fissures of Pakistan.

Altaf Hussain has very strange mindset. In fact I find him a multi-faceted person. His whole politics revolved around the hate towards other ethnic groups in Pakistan. Particularly he has much distaste for people of up-country (Punjabis and Pathans). Similarly he also hates Sindhis and Balochis to a certain degree, which is evident from the very inception of MQM. Later he tried to reconcile with the Sindhi and Pakhtun nationalists so as to arm-twist Punjabis , but his all offers were rebuffed. He tried to become a spokesman for Sindh, but Sindhis rejected his role in this context. Then he found out that Seraikis in Southern Punjab could be another soft target to encroach upon Punjabi territory. This time like ethnic/ hypocrite/ leftist leader he announced his solidarity with Seraikis on one hand while offering an olive branch to Punjabis on the other hand.
Lets see to what extent his foul tactics work. But if you are looking his moves from a panoramic view , you will find that this man is heading towards only one aim i.e. to make the fissures deep in an already troubled country.

If one claims that MQM has changed and has adopted to new changing circumstances, then I would simply call it a rubbish. By calling Mohajir Qaumi Movement as "Muttahida Qaumi Movement" only changes the facade, the methodology and essence remain the same.

I don't think you have justfied by cornering middle class or lower middle class, to become a Don or Mafia gang leader, its not neccessary to belongs from middle or lower class, examples are very bright, our majority Political or religeous leaders belongs to so called elite class and running their mafia in different forms, so its better not to involve the community for one's wrong doing.

 

[gazoomartian]

Compare Altaf Hussain With Other Leaders of Pakistan Or Prove Him Wrong



http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/jul2010-daily/10-07-2010/u37891.htm

اماں الطاف بھائی

اتنی محنت کرکے دوسروں کے لیے کھانا کیوں پکاتے ہیں ؟ کہیں ہاتھوں میں زنگ نہ لگ جایے؟

نیئی دہلی سے منگوا لو - سنا ہے کہ وہاں آپکے مدّاح بہت تعداد میں
(bigsmile) ​

 

[Spartacus]

اماں الطاف بھائی

اتنی محنت کرکے دوسروں کے لیے کھانا کیوں پکاتے ہیں ؟ کہیں ہاتھوں میں زنگ نہ لگ جایے؟

نیئی دہلی سے منگوا لو - سنا ہے کہ وہاں آپکے مدّاح بہت تعداد میں
(bigsmile) ​

Uncle Kharcha Bahoot Ho Jayee Gaaa

 

[Night-Hawk]

I don't think you have justfied by cornering middle class or lower middle class, to become a Don or Mafia gang leader, its not neccessary to belongs from middle or lower class, examples are very bright, our majority Political or religeous leaders belongs to so called elite class and running their mafia in different forms, so its better not to involve the community for one's wrong doing.

Abbasi Sahb ! You got it wrong way. The gist of my post was to emphasize on the mechanisms of mafia power. My point was that a leader with criminal instincts always hires people of lower strata to do the dirty work (of killings, kidnapping etc etc). The distinction of which MQM always boasts is its 2nd , 3rd or 4th ranks belong to middle class. It is easier for a mafia leader to control a pack of lower classes. There is huge economic and power gap between Altaf and his underlings. That is how he maintains tighter grip on the party. MQM workers are not only enslaved but their minds are also captured. They fail to assess the right or wrong when it comes to the controversial and stupid statements of their leader. His second or third level party men are themselves charged for major crimes. This is the way to show loyalty and get promoted in the party. Besides there are few show-boys to show soft face of MQM.

Yes , I agree that we have other groups who have criminal records. But here we cannot compare their 'modus operandi' with that of MQM. For instance there is no Bhatta in the up-country. We can criticize ANP , JUI, PML_N, PTI leaders in public without any life threat. The aforementioned parties have criminals but magnitude of crimes remains far less than MQM. The latter's murderous tendencies and 'Bori band lashain' are not new things for us to hear.

I have not generalized my allegations to whole community , but only emphasized on the vulnerability of weaker classes when confronted with dons like Altaf Hussain.

 

[GeoG]

[/QUOTE]

WHAT A PERFECT ANSWER

 

[karachi]

WHAT A PERFECT ANSWER[/QUOTE]

Perfect Answer k liye Imran Khan ki photoshoped pic dekhni hai?????

 

[GeoG]

WHAT A PERFECT ANSWER

Perfect Answer k liye Imran Khan ki photoshoped pic dekhni hai?????[/QUOTE]

Dhamki Na Diya Karo, Kam Kiya Karo, who is stopping you.

 

[gazoomartian]

I don't think you have justfied by cornering middle class or lower middle class, to become a Don or Mafia gang leader, its not neccessary to belongs from middle or lower class, examples are very bright, our majority Political or religeous leaders belongs to so called elite class and running their mafia in different forms, so its better not to involve the community for one's wrong doing.

Even if they do not belong to an elite, they BECOME elite once in office LOL

 

[gazoomartian]

the more I read about these senseless murders, the more I come to believe that my motherland needs me and the Patriots.

I would jail all officials of PPP, MQM, ANP, land mafias, gangs, for an indefinite period. Jail anyone whop protests that action in the shitty name of freedom and human rights. I would jail the chairman of Human Rights too.

These shayateen are nothing but murderers, and ghaddars. Then try to sort out the mess by tracing taliban and other culprits from Karachi.

I guarantee you that jailing of the officials would severely cut down on murders.

If US/UK condemn the arrest on behalf AH, we shall sever ties with both countries. A friend like them who needs enemy.

 

[GeoG]

Jb Ikhilaa Chahtey hain toh US day mei Cake kaat q rahe hain??? Kia yeh Khulaa Teezaad nai??
Bhai PMLN wale ho toh baat toh thk krliya kro :D

Note: Cake Kat'tey waqt Khadim-e-Alaa barey mazey se lady k hanthon ko dkhrahe hain..

Tum Logon Ko Tou Yeh Bohat Bura Lag Raha Ho Ga
Tumhara Leader Tou Kissi Mard Kay Hath Daikhna Pasand Karay Ga,

 

[bons]

I know him for more than 25 years and that is why I know that he said the truth.

I know him since 1988 and thats why I am saying that he is not a reliable person.

 

[karachiwala]

I know him since 1988 and thats why I am saying that he is not a reliable person.

Same here. Met the great one in 1988 and have still not been able to believe the good gentleman. Never understood why show your picture with British passport like a Orangi Town chamar (no offence to residents of Orangi Town here).

 

[Khurram.k]

BOHAT AFSOS HOA AAP LOGO KAY KHAYALAAT PARH KAR . AGAR ALTAAF BHAI NAY TAXI CHALAI HAI TAU USKO MANNA CHAHIEY ....kia wo shakal say ,huliey say , zabaan say taxi driver nahi lagtay ? AGAR UNHO NAY TUTION PARHA KAR KHARCHA UTHAYA HAI TAU MANNA CHAHIEY ( Allah janay wo bachay seekhnay say paas hoay ya TT say ) AGAR WO KEHTAY HAIN KAY UNHO NAY APNAY PARTY OFFICE KA BATHROOM KHUD SAAF KIA TAU MANNA CHAHIEY (un say zara yeh pooch kar bata do bhai kay america main konsa single insaan hai jo apna bathroom khud saaf nahi karta ) MANNA CHAHIEY AGAR WO KEHTAY HAIN KAY UNHO NAY BOOTS KI FACTORY MAIN KAAM KIA (tau kia hoa kay usi factory main Zia ul haq ka boots bhi banay thay ...pehli mulaqaat waheen hoi thi ) TAU KIA HO GYA AGAR WO AMERICA MAIN SAFE BETHAY HAIN ...AAP LOGO KO KION MAUT PAR RAHI HAI ? ( tau kia hoa kay unkay spartacus laloo khet ,oh sorry ...LIAQAT ABAD main hi paida hotay aur waheen kisi na kisi anti mqm government kay dor main goli kha letay hain)
hazraat , herat is baat par hai ke Karachi ki majority population somewhat parhi likhi hai ( agar mehez college university janay or even degree lenay say koi parha likha keh sakta hai apnay apko) laken intihai herat is baat ki hai ke "parhay likhay" logo ko safed kala aur kala safed kion azar ata hai .
Ham sab musalmaan hain ( at least majority on this forum) hamara emaan hai ke zindagi eik hi dafa milti hai ... apnay aap say jhoot bol kar ham kisko dhoka day rahay hain ? ZILLE ELAHI quaid e tahreek nay khel tau aisa khela hai ke waqai koi taxi wala hi khel sakta tha .... uskay paas drive kartay hoay sochnay ka time bohat hota hai . Zille elahi nay karachi ka nojavan pakra ...usko power di , nahi nahi ...taleem ki nahi , TT ki ...usko dukanain lootna sikhaya .... mil baant kar khanay ka saleeka sikhaya ...bas yeh nahi bataya ke kitni maain apnay javaan beto ko kho dain gi .
Yes I know MQM and I know karachi . sach baat yeh hai ke karachiites say behtar dost milna mushkil hain ...poori duniya main ...phir koi poochay masla kia hai ? Masla ye hai ke karachi kay javano ko yeh lagta hai ke agar MQM ko har cheez par back na kia gya aur kahin kal ko MQM na rahi tau wo yateem ho jaain ge ....unka kon khayal karay ga .... punjab ko kabhi nawaz shareef banata hai tau kabhi shehbaaz shareef .... Zille elahi jesay bhi hain ...inkay liey boltay tau hain .... karachi kay logo ka is main koi kasoor nahi hai ....ye kasoor un sab logo ka hai jinhi nay karachi ko ignore kia ...karachi ko use kia ... aur phir khud marnay maranay kay liey chor dia . AAP SAB LOGO KO ALLAH ka vasta hai .... khuda kay liey pehlay pakistani bano phir mahajir ya punjabi ya pathan ....
Mera yeh msg kisi ko dukh denay kay liey nahi hai laken jo karachi vala 1% bhi sachai say sochay ga usko yeh maloom kay jo kuch bhi main nay kaha hai sach hai . Wo karachi kay nojavaan jo us waqt paida nahi hoay thay ya bohat chotay thay jab 1985 main MQM vajood main ayee thi ....aap logo say iltaja hai kay Allah nay dimagh istamaal kay liey dia hai ...isko poora istamaal karain ... aur jo karachi kay rehnay walay ya anti MQM walay hain aap logo say ilataja hai kay karachi ya karachi kay log buray nahi hain ....inko pakistan main kisi nay mohabbat say dekha hi nahi ...is liey yeh apnay apko ya karachi say bahir rehnay walo ko aliens samajhtay hain . Inki taraf dosti ka hath barhaain . ikhtalaf e rai tau 2 bhaion main bhi ho jata hai .... iska matlab yeh nahi ke bhai eik doosray say nafrat karnay lagain .
I have a firm belief that all of us are from good families ... ham itni nafrat kabhi kabhi is forum par ko eik doosray kay liey dikha detay hain , agar apni family kay samnay karain tau daant paray ...kuch ko shayad maar bhi par jaye ...because deep down we all know this is not right . I am no one .... but I hope who ever read this ...at least one of you remember these words that IF WE DECIDE TO STAND TOGETHER AND UNITED ...WE ARE TALENTED AND SMART ENOUGH TO RULE THE WORLD . jo hans rahay hain wo hastay rahain ...kuch log yeh kaam ziada acha kartay hain ...jo abhi tak nahi hansay wo mujhay yeh batana paand karain ge ke musalmaano nay kitnay saal dunya par hukoomat ki thi ? GOD BLESS PAKISTAN ! : )

 

[Aijazahmed]

.........Yes I know MQM and I know karachi . sach baat yeh hai ke karachiites say behtar dost milna mushkil hain ...poori duniya main ...phir koi poochay masla kia hai ? Masla ye hai ke karachi kay javano ko yeh lagta hai ke agar MQM ko har cheez par back na kia gya aur kahin kal ko MQM na rahi tau wo yateem ho jaain ge ....unka kon khayal karay ga .... punjab ko kabhi nawaz shareef banata hai tau kabhi shehbaaz shareef .... Zille elahi jesay bhi hain ...inkay liey boltay tau hain .... karachi kay logo ka is main koi kasoor nahi hai ....ye kasoor un sab logo ka hai jinhi nay karachi ko ignore kia ...karachi ko use kia ... aur phir khud marnay maranay kay liey chor dia . AAP SAB LOGO KO ALLAH ka vasta hai .... khuda kay liey pehlay pakistani bano phir mahajir ya punjabi ya pathan ............

You've touched the nerves my dear.
Please go further, and suggest Karachi people an alternate of MQM.
Mind it, PPP, JI, PML (from A to Z) and even PTI (when Imran Khan was a cricketer and what biased behaviour he had against Karachi youth, people still remember that), all have been tested by the citizens of this orphan city of Pakistan. The people here have to vote someone in the elections, so as you said, they just support someone who talks about them and physically looks like them. The one whose skin color is black like them, and who is a taxi driver and a tutor and a factory worker like them. If they don't support him then where they should go? Any substitute?

BTW, mending a shoe for a soldier is way better than polishing the shoe of a General (that's what IK, BB (Mushi's shoes) and NS and JI (Zia-ul Haq's shoes) have been doing.)
Thanks.

 

[dagreat123]

@Aijaz Ahmed you missed MQM 2,IK left MUSH when he cud have benefited the most,IK is groing in KPK and PUNJAB when he gets seats,he would definately prove you that how much he has the potential 2 lead this country!!!

And Sir IK has left ENGLAND for the Welfare of this country not like Altaf who accepted BRITISH PASSPORT,where IK would have been easily given the STAUS F SIR,he is already A LEGEND!!!

Don't you realize people of pakistan are realizing an alternative AS IN FOR PTI,and MQM,PAKISTAN IS PROGRESSING so it is our responsibilty perhaps if someone doesn't like PTI,we should the suggest MQM with all my reservation,same goes 4 us all in this forum,We should get rid of these TRIED AND FAILED POLITICIANS,and bring new faces who have delivered this nation ,and both pti and mqm have delivered this nation!!!!

 

[Aijazahmed]

@Aijaz Ahmed you missed MQM 2,IK left MUSH when he cud have benefited the most,IK is groing in KPK and PUNJAB when he gets seats,he would definately prove you that how much he has the potential 2 lead this country!!!

And Sir IK has left ENGLAND for the Welfare of this country not like Altaf who accepted BRITISH PASSPORT,where IK would have been easily given the STAUS F SIR,he is already A LEGEND!!!

Don't you realize people of pakistan are realizing an alternative AS IN FOR PTI,and MQM,PAKISTAN IS PROGRESSING so it is our responsibilty perhaps if someone doesn't like PTI,we should the suggest MQM with all my reservation,same goes 4 us all in this forum,We should get rid of these TRIED AND FAILED POLITICIANS,and bring new faces who have delivered this nation ,and both pti and mqm have delivered this nation!!!!

I regard your comments my bro.
But due to immense opposition of MQM the voter of MQM is confused to whom he/she support instead? PTI of Imran Khan?
I don't think so, people in Karachi would ever think about him.
The reason is Imran's past behavior during his cricket career against Karachi youth. You have a right to differ, but this is the fact. Verify it with any Karachiitte if you want.
Yes, MQM and PTI can work together in Punjab and KPK. In the next election, I want MQM to support every candidate of PTI in those provinces as MQM will not win any seat and rather to waste their votes they should use them in favor of PTI.
But for that, PTI also have to come forward and should open their doors for MQM. They have to keep themselves out of baseless blame game and they have to repair their relations with MQM. Are they ready?

 

[dagreat123]

@Aijaz Ahmed i won't differ with his past of any kind,but does any person has the MORAL COURAGE 2 accept the fact,and yes he has accepted the fact,It is our moral responsibility that we should tell those people who aren't voting at all that these are the two forces and these are the reasons,we should stirive and do a little struggle on our part as well,Other wise cursing both PARTIES hypocrisy from our side and show's we as a nation don't want 2 change our selves.

I think personally people who don't like democracy in PAKISTAN and favour dictatorship is due 2 the fact that we as a nation get accountable and we as a nation get 2 know the fact that we on a whole are wrong and trying 2 justify that we aren't,we curse our leaadership,and put FORWARD STUPID DOGMAS ABOUT THEM,most of them may be right but some are such ridiculous!!!

 

[Ammad Hafeez]

Bonga.. Come with Authentic and Genuine Proves.. I'm also a well Photo Editor But I doesn't waste my time to make such Cheap Contents..