Capital Talk 8th December 2009 - Imran Khan

raju

Senator (1k+ posts)
Once again this program showed the true level of MQM and ANP. Imran as usual firm in his ideas,very logical and informative.
I will like ot poitn out a few things.
Imran was very right that it is the political cause which is pushing the war and no fatwa will help stopping it.
Hider Rizvi could not tell that they were in govt for past so many years and how come Altaf Hussain is now claiming that he can stop it in 10 hours. He again gave a very stupid answer when instead of commenting on Imrans prediction form 2004 , he started on his hair style with no answer to the actual question.

BOTTOM LINE: Till these political jokers are around we will not be able to formulate any national policy and this will continue.Our higher ups are scared of NRO and ordinary people are suffering..
 

HerZ

Voter (50+ posts)
Imran khan is pro taliban , this is truth , he puzzles everytime anchors with the names of American Anaylists and the so called Surveys :P
 

panasonic

Banned
HerZ said:
Imran khan is pro taliban , this is truth , he puzzles everytime anchors with the names of American Anaylists and the so called Surveys :P

Yes his favarite personality was baituallah masood. His beloved leader.
 

raju

Senator (1k+ posts)
panasonic said:
HerZ said:
Imran khan is pro taliban , this is truth , he puzzles everytime anchors with the names of American Anaylists and the so called Surveys :P

Yes his favarite personality was baituallah masood. His beloved leader.

very unnecessary comment. Stop making stuff up dude.
 

HerZ

Voter (50+ posts)
From the begingig till today , in each and every Talk show he ( [imran] ) did not said once that Taliban are enemy of Pakistan , he defend his logics(no idea) with stupid conversations :roll:

Open ur eyes and see what the reality is ;)
 

AKBER BADSHAH

MPA (400+ posts)
HerZ said:
From the begingig till today , in each and every Talk show he ( [imran] ) did not said once that Taliban are enemy of Pakistan , he defend his logics(no idea) with stupid conversations :roll:

Open ur eyes and see what the reality is ;)
AAPH SEY GUZARESH HAI KEY AAP APNI AINAK BADLEY.IMRAN KHAN NEY HAMESHA ESS KI PURZOR MUZAMMAT KI HAI.LAKIN IMRAN KHAN KO [altaf] JANAAB KEY TARA ACTING NAHE ATTI.MASLEHAT SEY KAAM LAINA NAHE ATTA.
[altaf] JANAAB NEY KABEHY AMERCAN DROWN ATTACK PER REALY NAHE NIKALI.Q K EN KEY BRITISH AUR AMERCAN AAQA NARAZ HOGAIGA.AUR BACK PER KICK LAGEGI SEDA MULK SEY BAHER.
 

HerZ

Voter (50+ posts)
Ager Altaf Hussain acting karta hay tu bhai pora karachi aur ab inshallah pora pakistan us kay Falsafey per chaley ga , ager yeh acting hay tu bhai aap yeh soocho MQM ek qaum parast jamat nahi hay ,is may sab shamil hain , ANP may ek bhi urdu,punjabi,sindhi aur pashto bolney wala koi hai??? Imran khan ko chahiye kay pehle chalna tu seekhey aur phir MQM ka muqabla kare , bohat time chahiye us level per aaney kay liye jo aaj MQM ka hay , masla yeh hay kay aap log bus MQM ko urdu bolney walon ki jamat samjhtey ho ,ager yeh zehan say nikal do , phir samajh may aajaye ga , kay , kon paise khata hay aur kon Taliban ka Spokesman hay , muzammat tu sabhi karte hain, lekin us nay kabhi nahi kay kay yeh Dehshatgard hain.......
 

AKBER BADSHAH

MPA (400+ posts)
HerZ said:
Ager Altaf Hussain acting karta hay tu bhai pora karachi aur ab inshallah pora pakistan us kay Falsafey per chaley ga , ager yeh acting hay tu bhai aap yeh soocho MQM ek qaum parast jamat nahi hay ,is may sab shamil hain , ANP may ek bhi urdu,punjabi,sindhi aur pashto bolney wala koi hai??? Imran khan ko chahiye kay pehle chalna tu seekhey aur phir MQM ka muqabla kare , bohat time chahiye us level per aaney kay liye jo aaj MQM ka hay , masla yeh hay kay aap log bus MQM ko urdu bolney walon ki jamat samjhtey ho ,ager yeh zehan say nikal do , phir samajh may aajaye ga , kay , kon paise khata hay aur kon Taliban ka Spokesman hay , muzammat tu sabhi karte hain, lekin us nay kabhi nahi kay kay yeh Dehshatgard hain.......
ALLAH PAKITANI AWAAM KO ALTAF HUSSAIN KEY FALSAFEY SEY BACHAEY.Q KEY AGHAR ALTAF KA FALSAFA JO BRITISH NATIONALITY LAINA HAI.PER AMAL KAREY TU AAJ PAKISTAN MAIN KOIY NA RAHE SAB BRITISH AGENT HOGAINGE BHAI.
PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEE AWAAM KO ALTAF KEY FALSAFEY SEY DOOR HE RAKEH.AUR ENN MADE IN FORGEN [altaf] [musharaf] [zardari] SEY.AHTARAAM KEY SAATH
 

HerZ

Voter (50+ posts)
ager altaf hussain British Agent hay tu phir Imran khan Yahudi agent hai kiyon kay us nay yahudi ki larki say shadi ki thi ,aur sare zindigi Europen larkion kay sath guzare hai aur ab khuch karni kay liye nahi hay tu Taliban ka agent ban kar pakistan kay peehcey par gaya hai :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

comes with logics not from feelingsssssssssssss ;)
 

panasonic

Banned
I have few questions for PTI workers , I'm not gona put a propaganda thread against PTI or Imran Khan as it would a bit amateur act . Personally i do not doubt Imran Khan's or PTI sincerety to our country , but i always fail to understand the political vision & wisdom of "Champion Captain" .

Sometime arguing with my PTI friends in private gatherings, i ask them same questions n always found them helpless in these issues . They are themselves in state of confusion , Thanks to Party leadership for creating this "ambiguous, dubious, fluctuating, indecisive, or uncertain" point of view.


Let me write those questions :-

1 - What PTI think about TTP militants ?
Are they CIA/RAW/Mossad funded

If YES , than

what else option we have other than Killing these foreign funded militants ruthlessly OR is it the only one??


If No , Do PTI think TTP as patriotic Pakistani & faithful Muslims ?

Should we negotiate with them?
What if during talks TTP demands Pakistani authorities to establish a "Private Islamic Emirate" in FATA region?? Should we accept it ?

Remember we have expereince these sort of demands in Sawat & wazeeristan before.

2 - What is PTI position on Suicide Bombing ?
Should those people who plan and execute such horrific acts be given chance of negotiation and peaceful talks?

OR

There should be intense retaliation and counter attack from Pakistani Agencies in their safe heavens of Wazeeristan and Sawat?

I know its not a work of a political Party to issue fatwa but let me ask ,

Do PTI think suicide bombing as Haram ??
Do PTI think those people who plan and execute such acts as Kafir / Non-Muslims ?


3 - Do PTI still think these operations of Sawat & Wazeeristan as part of US war on Terrorism & not Pakistan's war against TTP?
If Pakistan Army is fighting for USA rather than Pakistan , than What should be our immediate step :

- We should be on TTP side , as they are fighting against US-backed or rather US-rented Pakistani Army which is working against the interest of Islam and Muslims of Pakistan & Afghanistan?

OR

Pakistan Army is not fighting for USA rather fighting AGAINST American/Indian planted agents , So now ...yes...NOW its our war...its Pakistan war against terrorism....and we should back our Army to eliminate this terrorism

4 - Who is the Terrorist , Pakistan Army OR Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan ??

- Pakistan Army is terrorist , for carrying out Lal-Masjid Operation ,for not stopping US drones attacks , for fighting against mujahideens who were resisting for establishment of Khilafah in Sawat & Wazeeristan???


- TTP is terrorist , for carrying out suicide bombings in public . holy & national security places , for using children in warfare , for bombing girls schools , for slaughtering army, police/government men .

5 - What is the Status of this war to you personally ??
Is it like Jang-e-Jamal & Jang-e-Siffin , for which Mainstream 90% muslims think that both the parties were right , and casualities from both sides shud be treated as "Martyrs" Shaheeds ??

Pakistan Army men are shaheeds &
Baitullah Mehsood was also Shaheed

OR

is it like Jang-e-Karbala , When only one rightful jamat was fighting against Evils of the society ,

Only Pakistan Army men are shaheeds &
TTP militants are no more than Kuffars like Abu-Jahal,Abu Lahab,Sheba,Ummaya bin Khalaf etc

6 - What is PTI view on Private Jihadi Militias ?

Should ANY kind of private militia be allowed in Pakistan , against any country??

e.g; Lashkar-e-Taiba , Hizb-ul-Mujahideen , Harkat-ul-Mujhideen , Jaish-e-Muhammad , Al-badr ,Muttahida Jihad Council (against India) , Sipah-e-Sahaba , Sipah-e-Muhammad , Lashkar-e-Jhangvi , etc

7 - OR What is PTI view about citizens carrying Weapons ??

Like MQM , Sunni Tehreek , PML/N, PPP , ANP workers usually carry weapons in their party rallies and election campaigns ...

What action will PTI take if it comes to power , regarding weapons access to ordinary citizens , ??

Will PTI take back all weapons from Pashtoons of NWFP if it grabs power in NWFP ??
 

nokhan

Citizen
panasonic said:
I have few questions for PTI workers , I'm not gona put a propaganda thread against PTI or Imran Khan as it would a bit amateur act . Personally i do not doubt Imran Khan's or PTI sincerety to our country , but i always fail to understand the political vision & wisdom of "Champion Captain" .

Sometime arguing with my PTI friends in private gatherings, i ask them same questions n always found them helpless in these issues . They are themselves in state of confusion , Thanks to Party leadership for creating this "ambiguous, dubious, fluctuating, indecisive, or uncertain" point of view.


Let me write those questions :-

1 - What PTI think about TTP militants ?
Are they CIA/RAW/Mossad funded

If YES , than

what else option we have other than Killing these foreign funded militants ruthlessly OR is it the only one??


If No , Do PTI think TTP as patriotic Pakistani & faithful Muslims ?

Should we negotiate with them?
What if during talks TTP demands Pakistani authorities to establish a "Private Islamic Emirate" in FATA region?? Should we accept it ?

Remember we have expereince these sort of demands in Sawat & wazeeristan before.

2 - What is PTI position on Suicide Bombing ?
Should those people who plan and execute such horrific acts be given chance of negotiation and peaceful talks?

OR

There should be intense retaliation and counter attack from Pakistani Agencies in their safe heavens of Wazeeristan and Sawat?

I know its not a work of a political Party to issue fatwa but let me ask ,

Do PTI think suicide bombing as Haram ??
Do PTI think those people who plan and execute such acts as Kafir / Non-Muslims ?


3 - Do PTI still think these operations of Sawat & Wazeeristan as part of US war on Terrorism & not Pakistan's war against TTP?
If Pakistan Army is fighting for USA rather than Pakistan , than What should be our immediate step :

- We should be on TTP side , as they are fighting against US-backed or rather US-rented Pakistani Army which is working against the interest of Islam and Muslims of Pakistan & Afghanistan?

OR

Pakistan Army is not fighting for USA rather fighting AGAINST American/Indian planted agents , So now ...yes...NOW its our war...its Pakistan war against terrorism....and we should back our Army to eliminate this terrorism

4 - Who is the Terrorist , Pakistan Army OR Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan ??

- Pakistan Army is terrorist , for carrying out Lal-Masjid Operation ,for not stopping US drones attacks , for fighting against mujahideens who were resisting for establishment of Khilafah in Sawat & Wazeeristan???


- TTP is terrorist , for carrying out suicide bombings in public . holy & national security places , for using children in warfare , for bombing girls schools , for slaughtering army, police/government men .

5 - What is the Status of this war to you personally ??
Is it like Jang-e-Jamal & Jang-e-Siffin , for which Mainstream 90% muslims think that both the parties were right , and casualities from both sides shud be treated as "Martyrs" Shaheeds ??

Pakistan Army men are shaheeds &
Baitullah Mehsood was also Shaheed

OR

is it like Jang-e-Karbala , When only one rightful jamat was fighting against Evils of the society ,

Only Pakistan Army men are shaheeds &
TTP militants are no more than Kuffars like Abu-Jahal,Abu Lahab,Sheba,Ummaya bin Khalaf etc

6 - What is PTI view on Private Jihadi Militias ?

Should ANY kind of private militia be allowed in Pakistan , against any country??

e.g; Lashkar-e-Taiba , Hizb-ul-Mujahideen , Harkat-ul-Mujhideen , Jaish-e-Muhammad , Al-badr ,Muttahida Jihad Council (against India) , Sipah-e-Sahaba , Sipah-e-Muhammad , Lashkar-e-Jhangvi , etc

7 - OR What is PTI view about citizens carrying Weapons ??

Like MQM , Sunni Tehreek , PML/N, PPP , ANP workers usually carry weapons in their party rallies and election campaigns ...

What action will PTI take if it comes to power , regarding weapons access to ordinary citizens , ??

Will PTI take back all weapons from Pashtoons of NWFP if it grabs power in NWFP ??
well i will give all the answers of your questions,its not a big deal.
but let me just think ooooooooooonnnnnnnnhhhhhhhhhhh. well ok what were the questions!!! let me contact party elders , my bad there is no elder in my party its one man show but never mind i know the answers it must be USA that's the answer .
USA USA USA USA
and becouse you are asking these illogical question, it leave me only one way to save my party which is to ask you our last resort question ,when altaf hussain is comming back.
see i got you.
now nobody answer the questions instead they would start beating the bushes.this is our success no answer to any problem except USA and ALTAF. all (handful) of our workers are absolutely trained for that. read this whole FORUM and validity of my point shall be infront of you.
 

hope

Citizen
siasat.pk admin should go for voting for these guys [zardari] [altaf] [nawaz] [fazl] [imran] and everybody will see it , "doodh ka doodh paani ka paania"

and by the way my vote will be for Imran Khan.
 

idrexton

Voter (50+ posts)
THESE MQM SHITEES ARE SO BORING ... BAKWAS KARNEY K ILAWA INKO KUCH ATA NAHIN .......
SARA DIN BHOONK BHOONK KEY THAKTEY NAHIN HAI ......


AAJ KAL LAGTA HAI IN KA COORAN CHATNI KA KAROOBAAR THAP PARA HAI .... [pk flag]
 

HerZ

Voter (50+ posts)
meri sub sey guzarish hay kay vote denay say pehle ek dafa karachi zaroor jayen , aur khud dekhen ,kay karachi ki devolpment kaise hoe hay , aur ager woh pore pakistan ko corruption kay bager taraqi hote hoe dekhna chahtey hain , then the voting results here in siasat.pk will be goes to MQM.

hum to kar kay dekhatey hain , dosron ki tarah bhonktey nahi hain :mrgreen:

GA MQM
 
G

Guest

Guest
it should be very clear to everyone who can think that imran khan is not the solution to pakistan's terrorism crisis!
if he comes to power tomorrow i can bet that within just 1 week the world would call us the Islamic nation of Taliban or talibanistan!
forgod's sake have u guys ever seen this guy criticizing taliban? he never did that..he is always taking their side and playing the anti-govt and anti-american cards!
MQM might have issues but atleast they dont behead people and put their bodies on fire!
death to taliban and its supporters!
long live pakistan army and musharraf!