@atensari ,
I would have loved to reply to your post, but since it is off-topic. You can start
another thread on "Itbah-e-Rasool", what it means according to your view or your
Imam's view. It will be discussed. Here on this topic, you please discuss how it
is possible to fabricate a Hadith, is it still being fabricated or twisted and how it
is not possible to alter Quran, never and never.
@atensari ,
Your imam is also struggling to justify Hadith, started with word Ateeho, then Sunnat, then x,y,z,
may I ask you that in more than ten to fifteen times the arabic word Hadith has been used in
Quran, why your camp resort to take the shelter of arabic word "atteho" for his.?
Mine theories are crystal clear. I have already given response to your oft-repeated queries,
or should I ask you again that "how the people were offering Salaat, paying Zakat, performing
haj, etc etc. etc. etc. " before Sahi Buhairi and Sahi Muslims came into being. Your imam is also
acknowledging it in video that this was person to person, generation to generation .
Do you agree or disagree that : All disputes/differences in Islamic Ummah are due to
fabrication of Hadiths?????
This an excellent topic, thanks for loading
There is no doubt that all the fight among Muslims is due to these fabricated Hadith.
Most people don't know that science of Hadith and just at the mere mention of word Hadith start to take it as a matter of honor of Islam and take law in their own hands.
One must know thatnmany ahadith were created to justify different opinions of later day Muslims. One must also be understandable of the fact that even the most authenticated Hadith of Imam Bukhari was collected by imam who was not Arab, born 198 years after Hijra and tried his best to collect only authenticated Hadith. Now he looked at close to 300000 Hadith and regarded only about 3000 to be authentic and discarded rest as fabricated. Some of the false Hadith later showed up in later books of Hadith. Today these are cause of ummah fighting with each other.
@atensari ,
Say yes or No:
ALL DIFFERENCES IN ISLAMIC UMMAH ARE DUE TO HADITHS,
if it is your "No", then read two threads closed by Admn "On Karbela" by Mewish Ali????
If yes, then say it!
@atensari ,
Extreme attitude is generated when there is ideological and strong difference.
This is due to lack of tolerance. You just for a moment wonder that "we(believers) are not
even agreed over Salaat's way of performing". There is big division and all those
division have one thing in common which is support from Hadiths. I asked you again
and repeat it again: Just imagine that when command from Allah came that "establish
worship", of course Prophet(PBUH) established worship and showed it to his followers.
Now there should have been only one Hadith in which it should have been included
all text and way of establishing the worship. from Fajr to Essha and then the way
of establishing it? You will not find that, if yes, please guide me?
Let us not detract the topic. Which is on Hadiths (fabricated ones);Shia are production of which Imam?
Do they have same interpretation of Ayats as Sunni?
Do "Intelligent Class" interpretation of Quran match with pioneers?
Do "Intelligent Class" created unity in Ummah or created another division?
Do Quran go chapter by chapter, topic by topic?
I this lecture yesterday. Doing the same as Jews did when they were asked to slaughter a cow. Which is said is not enough we need more clarification.
Surprisingly he has beard. is it mentioned in Quran? What dimensions are given?
Let us not detract the topic. Which is on Hadiths (fabricated ones);
BTW if you find any Hadith which I asked, pleased do share.
The Janzah prayer was performed over Imm Bukhr and his body was covered with soil. A beautiful musk smell exuded from the earth of his grave which lasted for several days. People from far and wide began to visit it in astonishment and also took handfuls of earth from his grave for blessings (tabarruk).
Abul-Fath as-Samarqand relates: "two hundred years after the death of Imm Bukhr, a drought struck Samarqand. The people made the istisq' prayer and invocations but rain did not fall. A saintly man came to the judge (Qd) of the city and gave him some advice. He said: 'With the people of the city, go to the grave of Imm Bukhr and invoke Allh the Exalted there to give you rain. Perhaps Allh will accept our invocations and give us rain.' The judge of the city accepted this advice with delight and proceeded to go to the grave. The people followed him and upon arrival, he prayed for rain in front of them at the grave. People wept and also sought the intercession of the one who was in the grave. At that moment, clouds gathered and Allh sent such heavy rain that those who were in Kharteng could not reach Samarqand for seven days because of the rain's abundance.
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