American life through the eyes of a Pakistani !!

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Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
American life through the eyes of a Pakistani

Taimur Ahmed August 8, 2011

Today, it is common for young Pakistani men and women to go to the United States of America for higher education. My friends ans I are a part of this percentage of Pakistan.
Let me be the first to tell you that its not that easy to get there in the first place.
You apply to countless universities; receive lots of rejections and a few acceptances. It is then up to you to decide where you want to go. Are you a big city type of a person? Or would you prefer a more of a small-town feel?
Once you have finally decided where you want to go and youve paid the university you will be attending the registration deposit which is about $700 (completely pointless money making scheme) comes the issue of applying for your visa. This is an extremely tedious process; you have to deal with loads of paper work. Filling out forms that require you to disclose your familys travel history from the year 1910 till the present day and what not, but we still answer all their pointless and absurd questions because you see, we must get out of here!
Who would want to stay in Pakistan, right?
On my way to the USA
You fill out the forms, get a date for an interview and then the next 3 weeks or so are spent in anticipation, severe stress, going over the capital cities of all the 51 states of the US, trying to learn the names of all the NBA teams; all this just so you might seem more American to the interviewer.
We go through all this trouble and when we show up to the US embassy at 8 oclock in the morning in the blazing July heat all they do is make sure that you have the money to pay for four years of college and that after college you will return to Pakistan. Thats it, end of story.
All they want to do make sure of is that you will pump money into their education system for four years and after doing that you will return to your country and look for a job in Telenor or one of the many other multi-national companies that have been investing in Pakistan due to its booming economy and the highly efficient government.
So youre set then; youve got the visa, youve got your ticket (flying economy on a Middle Eastern airline by the way, because all of your money has gone towards paying for visa fees and other deposits.) And were off.
You reach Abu Dhabi; you have a 15 hour layover and then fly to lets say Washington D.C.
In the land of opportunity
So you finally land, and of course you remember to say thank you to the air hostesses in your new found American accent.
Once you are at immigration you are asked the same questions you were asked when you got your visa.The officers asks you what kind of vegetables you are carrying with you on that particular day, which firearms you decided to bring along and how many times you personally met Osama Bin Laden.
Once youve answered these extremely relevant questions you move on out of the airport and hail a cab. The whole ride you think about how unbelievable it is that you are finally in the country where all your favourite movies have been made, you tell yourself youve seen that building in some movie and you take picture with your brand new Blackberry to upload it on Facebook.
And then, something unexpected happens.
You reach your destination and contrary to what everyone has told you, the locals are actually nice to you! Its the Pakistanis who try to keep their distance. They dont seem to want to be associated with you, they dont seem confident enough to let everyone know they are from Pakistan. But its okay, because youve already made tons of American friends. They are all really nice to you and make you feel really comfortable. They ask you plenty of questions because they seem to know that everything theyve been shown on TV cant mostly be true. And thats when you realize its not the American people who hate us, not even the American government.
They do not have any hidden agendas against us; they do not want to harm us.
They just want to make sure that we will in no way harm them. When they see that you will not, you are welcomed as one of them. You have been accepted.
You see, it is not America or the American people who have developed this feeling towards us, they had no need to. It is the hero of many, Mr Osama Bin Laden and his countless followers who have done this to us. They have cast doubts upon us; they have made sure that we are the last ones to be looked at when theres a job opening even though we might have a better GPA then most of our class.
My mission in America
I went to America to study, to get a degree and maybe a job after that if Im lucky. But my mission in America has changed drastically since I got here. I want to change perceptions in whatever way I can. I want Americans to know that we are not the enemies and that we are victims of this terrorism, perhaps more than anyone else in this world.
In America, we must prove we are better than what they have been made to think of us. We must work hard, always remain ethical, never forget our values but at the same time try to assimilate ourselves into the American culture. Assimilating yourself into the American culture doesnt mean you have to drink a beer every night but it does mean that you try to play basketball instead of cricket while youre there.
They should want us to stay in their country. Right now we are weak and we need them. But we must change that and it is no easy process. To change the way they look at us Pakistanis we must change our behavior. We cannot go there and attempt to blow up bombs, it is not right.
Sure, theyre not treating us in the best way possible right now, but why should they?
We fostered the worlds most wanted terrorist, Pakistanis tried to blow up Times Square, Pakistanis funded terrorist organizations and Pakistanis come from a country that is nuclear powered and is reportedly on the brink of collapse.
If we do not change ourselves, then it is only a matter of time before we are denied entry not only into the United States but into every civilized society in whole world(http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/7376/american-life-through-the-eyes-of-a-pakistani/?print=)
 

Unicorn

Banned
Tamur Ahmed with your attitude you will make it in America.

I have been saying to many nut cases on this forum that Americans are the greatest people in the world. After 911 and all the crap most of the American people are fair except for a tiny minority. They are far better people than you and I. I deal with them a lot.

Your hard work will Pay Off in America. Great piece of writing.(clap)

For now you can tell them you are Indian it works very well, we have built up a very good reputation:lol:
 
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Safarmai

MPA (400+ posts)
And remember.
Be careful.
If you are already in same school and after one year another pakistani man come to study. He makes girl friend(s). He invites you to his party (even 1 party is enough). Without telling her he go back to pakistan, and you continue your study or job.
Don't go near that girl or try to say hello. She will start complaining and cry in the shop.



I don't see the flag of the country where i live, its important country of the world. Siasat.pk don't have flag. But they have lands flag, which is not a country.
 
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ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Tamur Ahmed with your attitude you will make it in America.

I have been saying to many nut cases on this forum that Americans are the greatest people in the world. After 911 and all the crap most of the American people are fair except for a tiny minority. They are far better people than you and I. I deal with them a lot.

Your hard work will Pay Off in America. Great piece of writing.(clap)

For now you can tell them you are Indian it works very well, we have built up a very good reputation:lol:

Uni. here you go again, I am as against terrorism as you are even more so. but it is your and my duty to be truthful, let me the first one to be truthful.

Internet is a great tool and I would have hard for me knowing the truth had internet not been here. so to enlighten you i will rcomend for you to read one of the thread on this board named. Govt. Coalition Partners Involed in Karachi Riots, Evidence with Connections to RAW


it is a detailed article telling that Three countries are involved in terrorism in Pakistan and the attack on Mehran base was done by the local agents of these three countries and they are named as India, South Africa and Iran.

so if you are really a peace loving country than stop those agency of yours from doing this dirty work.

Now coming back to the article above, my answer is same as above and that is to stop all those foriegn agencies from using traitors in Pakistan, honor Pakistan sovereignty and work with Pakistan Army to rid this menace than to support it.

There is another thread yoiu should read and know the truth again. In UK Prince's Pilot Instructor Converted to Islam and 195 converted to Islam in Kuwait. Again if a person converts to Islam in western societies he is made but of the jokes and is given very hard time, My question to you Liberal posing people is why. you call yourselves bastion of freedom, it seem that the bastion of freedom is only if one conforms to your type of Religion and thoughts and acts, this is hypocricale, can you give me a straight answer and be not a hypocrite.

Pakistanis love peace and honor and respect as much as any one else, but those who claim to be the biggest Democracies and bastions of freedom must not be two faced, on surface they claim to be the bastion but underneath they scheme, play dirty games and stop at nothing to be nasty and even if it comes to killing innocent people as they call it collateral damage., it is not collateral damage it is innocent humans life and all must respect it instead of making it as it were ants that they killed.
 
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Unicorn

Banned
Uni. here you go again, I am as against terrorism as you are even more so. but it is your and my duty to be truthful, let me the first one to be truthful.

Internet is a great tool and I would have hard for me knowing the truth had internet not been here. so to enlighten you i will rcomend for you to read one of the thread on this board named. Govt. Coalition Partners Involed in Karachi Riots, Evidence with Connections to RAW


it is a detailed article telling that Three countries are involved in terrorism in Pakistan and the attack on Mehran base was done by the local agents of these three countries and they are named as India, South Africa and Iran.

so if you are really a peace loving country than stop those agency of yours from doing this dirty work.

Now coming back to the article above, my answer is same as above and that is to stop all those foriegn agencies from using traitors in Pakistan, honor Pakistan sovereignty and work with Pakistan Army to rid this menace than to support it.

There is another thread yoiu should read and know the truth again. In UK Prince's Pilot Instructor Converted to Islam and 195 converted to Islam in Kuwait. Again if a person converts to Islam in western societies he is made but of the jokes and is given very hard time, My question to you Liberal posing people is why. you call yourselves bastion of freedom, it seem that the bastion of freedom is only if one conforms to your type of Religion and thoughts and acts, this is hypocricale, can you give me a straight answer and be not a hypocrite.

Pakistanis love peace and honor and respect as much as any one else, but those who claim to be the biggest Democracies and bastions of freedom must not be two faced, on surface they claim to be the bastion but underneath they scheme, play dirty games and stop at nothing to be nasty and even if it comes to killing innocent people as they call it collateral damage., it is not collateral damage it is innocent humans life and all must respect it instead of making it as it were ants that they killed.

Govt. Coalition partners...thread does not exist. In UK Prince's Pilot converts...I can't read Urdu. Without having the benefit of reading I say so what if a person is made butt of jokes if he converts to any religion I generally don't make any jokes abouts, furthermore if i converted to any religion based on understating and conviction I couldn't care less if the whole world makes jokes about it, I see something that others don't.

India is not a bastion of freedom as much as US but I don't see any question from you rather a comment. Feel free to present any counter arguments against our kind of religion, without having any fear of offending me you simply cannot offend me. Sticks and stones may break my bones but the words will never hurt me. You have got the concept of democracy all wrong.

India is the largest democracy in the world, in that it has the largest number of votes, it does not mean that there are not any Idiots or narrow minded people there. The worlds smallest democracy is no different than the largest.

You said it correctly that desire to live in peace and honor is a human desire.

I am not a supporter of every war US is engaged in specially the Iraq war President Obama also opposed it when he was a senator. When any country is in a war some innocent people will die and its a fact.
 

ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Pak. Govt coalition had some partner who has been proved to be by intelligence agency of Army as the agent of foriegn pwers namely India, Iran and South Africa.

Converting to any Religion should be not appreciated but respected and not made butt of joke and name calling the way they have done to this trainer calling him Ayat ullah. in a derogatory way, it is in the constitution of all western societies and in U.n charter, but than why do i have to remind you, when you call that a person should have thick skin, that is not the point,the point is of being civilized, being honorable and respectful of others by so called civilized societies.

India being the biggest Democracy is a farse when all the wealth in only in few hands and those who have has been the biggest thieves of the whole world, they have stolen 1.5 trillion from India, In Indian poverty is still prevalent and calling it biggest democracy is a false.

World is taking like of Radavan and all African dictators responsible of ethnic cleansing to international court, whereas in Iraq million innocent lives were lost, war was based on false pretenses, don`t u think that those responsible should also be taken to task, selective justice has no value when it is not applied all across and to all of those who have cause death of innocents people under false pretenses.
 

Unicorn

Banned
Pak. Govt coalition had some partner who has been proved to be by intelligence agency of Army as the agent of foriegn pwers namely India, Iran and South Africa.

Converting to any Religion should be not appreciated but respected and not made butt of joke and name calling the way they have done to this trainer calling him Ayat ullah. in a derogatory way, it is in the constitution of all western societies and in U.n charter, but than why do i have to remind you, when you call that a person should have thick skin, that is not the point,the point is of being civilized, being honorable and respectful of others by so called civilized societies.

India being the biggest Democracy is a farse when all the wealth in only in few hands and those who have has been the biggest thieves of the whole world, they have stolen 1.5 trillion from India, In Indian poverty is still prevalent and calling it biggest democracy is a false.

World is taking like of Radavan and all African dictators responsible of ethnic cleansing to international court, whereas in Iraq million innocent lives were lost, war was based on false pretenses, don`t u think that those responsible should also be taken to task, selective justice has no value when it is not applied all across and to all of those who have cause death of innocents people under false pretenses.

Lets see the proof hand it over to international media.

Democracy does not mean, socialism, capitalism or any other ism. I don't know where you got this idea that a democracy is where every one has enough money a decent life, everyone respects everyone.

People should not call anyone any derogatory name but some do, nor should someone make fun of a person who changes religion but some do. I get called Hindu Banyia, a derogatory term, does not bother me they can call me thousand times a day if it pleases them.

I personally don't make fun of religions but sometimes I make fun of God after reading his statements and plans written in all scriptures I can't help it.
 

ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
U will never accept the normal and civilized behavior, and that is a shame, again an civilized Nation do not call names or frown upon those who convert, Democracy if it implemented right it will bring masses out of poverty and make a good middle class. it also allows self determination to all living in it.

U keep changing like a comillion by not talking about things that may not be in Indian interest like Iraq war and the need for justice about it. So in my opinion u ignore what is is not conducive to Indian benefits, therefore u sir are a person who is opportunistic and will not discuss things vital because it is not in the interest of India, R U Raw agent, it sound like U R

International media has and has been playing one sided role and Pakistan is not interested what they say or not. this media has caused death of million Iraqis by ignoring real news whereas when it comes to Pakistan they are like vultures, they will never report about atrocities by Indian Army in Kashmir, but will twist matters about Pakistan, will nor report truthfully Indian interference in Afghanistan and will not report about drone attacks but will jump to conclusion about attacks in Denmark and run it for whole day knowing that it is not true.

you making fun of God is like an ant making fun of universe, by doing this you are only belittling yourself. if you stop for once and read his true scripture with an open mind you will feel different, try it and u will like it.

So here is something for you to watch who knows it may enlighten you only if you listen to it with clear conscious and not with predetermination and decadance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn0iPlWQNlI

U
NI I like you to see this special video which is very telling about terrorist attack in Denmark, let us see if you have the courage to see and speak the truth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qLm4-srIzg&feature=player_embedded
 
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ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Americans are not the problem, but the American goevernment surely is.[/QUOTE

you are so right, I have talked to many Americans, they nice people, but some special interest groups who's interest lies in other than American interests are manipulating American policies, but American people are waking to this special interest group.

Read on.

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/lobby.html