Aapas Ki Baat - 18th May 2011 - Nawaz Sharif's Sindh visit
India is constructing many number of Dams on various rivers of Pakistan. India is even going to construct dam on River Kabul in Afghanistan to give more & more tough time to Pakistani Agriculture.
There are numerous proofs that India is backing Anti-Pakistan elements in Baluchistan...
Recently A report has been leaked from Indian Embassy (in Islamabad ) to New Delhi mentioning that " The project which is started in 2001 of the destruction of Pakistan is going very successful................"
This idiot Najam Sethi is again out of track, giving stupid analysis e.g. Whatever Pakistan did in Bangladesh, it was its internal matter. Who had given India the right to attack on East Bengal....... If India is doing it, its okay for this traitor Najam but if Pakistan had start supporting Khalistan & Kashmir Movement, Najam Sethi is not happy.... What a loser this Najam Sethi is...
There are numerous proofs that India is backing Anti-Pakistan elements in Baluchistan...
Recently A report has been leaked from Indian Embassy (in Islamabad ) to New Delhi mentioning that " The project which is started in 2001 of the destruction of Pakistan is going very successful................"
This idiot Najam Sethi is again out of track, giving stupid analysis e.g. Whatever Pakistan did in Bangladesh, it was its internal matter. Who had given India the right to attack on East Bengal....... If India is doing it, its okay for this traitor Najam but if Pakistan had start supporting Khalistan & Kashmir Movement, Najam Sethi is not happy.... What a loser this Najam Sethi is...
abbasiali
Minister (2k+ posts)
Yeh typical Pakistani rawayya hai, haqeqat sey munh mod ker sirf khayali aur hawai qiloun per khush hotey rahein, India Pakistan ka sub sey bada dushman hai, sirf is ek nuktey ko ley ker poorey 64 saal sey yeh army or establishment pakistanioun ka khoun choos rahi hai, magar kiya baat hai Pakistanioun ki, bhookey mar rahey hain, in key bachoun ko na khaney ko kuch hai, na padhney key liyey hai kuch, magar kiya baat hai.
johny
MPA (400+ posts)
Boss bhokey khwab to daikh saktay hain na. we are dreaming almost for ever. we thought ayoub khan is the last hope, bhutto is the last hope.....zia is the last hope........benazir is the last hope.... NS is the last hope.....Musharaf is the last hope... now we are dreaming that IK is the last hope... let see how long it lasts. Though comparing to all other leaders who came with a lot of expectations IK is the least potent of all.... well when i say comparing compare with the dream they gave in the beginning not what happened in the end.
Unicorn
Banned
Interesting statement made my Mr NS " Stop looking at India as an enemy" I am glad he has taken this position and don't know how other parties are going to react to it. One thing for sure now, NS must explain truth fuly to his voters why for the last 63 years this line wast towed by every one. This debate should be very important I wonder where the voters will stand after this debate. If his voters believe him and vote him in how will he deal with the army who needs a Monster in order to maintain its hold on power and commerce.
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Bask army? how? any thing you can say or just want to through some words.
This fuc*en army deserves this.....
Do you have a point from this program ? Anything that he said you think is wrong and please provide us some proof of what you are saying?
Tell us what is wrong what he said? do you have personal enemity? If not then come with some point guys
Well said.
To make things clear and to make ourself a better nation we should accept our faults. come to reality and make changes necessary to not try the things we did in the past.
so here you go, let me know if i am wrong in any of the things.
1- The question is who gave pakistan the right to go into kashmir and start the so called freedom movement. Are we a country or are we just a bunch of people living at one place? What happened in 65.. What was operation jibralter from the army. The army itself went into kashmir because of some group in kahsmir said they will support them and thousands of our army guys went it. Search on google and you will find. What happened in fact was that group backed out as soon as our people went inside kashmir. And they had real trouble there and lots of them lost there life. In return we had to fight a complete war with india.
2- If there was no inside movement in bangladesh and they had ruling there part and not the military . Indians would never get the chance to attack east pakistan. Even in balouchistan if we have developed there cities, if we have given them more options. If there were more schools, colleges. we could have make the few extremist sardaars away from the general public. We have not been able to do that. every one of us know the gas from sui reached peshawar but the town of sui got gas after 2000. Why? Dont they have the right on what they have. GIve them rights and they will always be with you. We have been tought wrong things. There is certainly nothing wrong in asking for rights. but if you dont give the right then offcourse there will be repucursions. Same happened with bangladesh. I hope we learn fromm it and dont repeat in balochistan.
3- Khalistan.. supported and got nothing.
4- Kargil: big mess got nothing.
5- All these lashkars and jaish things we made for indians , we got nothing , infact we got most of these groups started killing pakistanis.
Both the countries have done things that were not right. BOTH OF THEM. But the fact is they got half of us cut down from us . What we have left lets try to save it and not do the proxy wars. If we have the guts then have a full fight put the nuclear on there arses and wipe out. Which ofcourse we cannot . So why to fight.. Leaders from both the countries should sit and start the peace process. Once we are strong financially and india will have a market of 180 million and we will have market of 1.2 billion. We will both stop thinnking of using proxy wars. We will be more beneficiary .. why? because the balouch issue will calm down. We will be able to negotiate on the dams in a better way and we would not need to spend way to much on army. Even right now if we can give our entire budget to army ( half of it they are already taking) we cannot go on a war with them.
Face the realities, this is a new world where you will be strong only if you have booming economy. Look at where we stand today and look at where the indians are going. Why not beat them in economy. Why not tell them we are much competitive and we can take care of our country. If we dont stop doing what we are doing right now we will never ever be able to grow. Have any of us thought of this in 90s. India was way beghind us. But look right now after just 20 years. They are far far ahead. A regional super power competing with the world. We can do that. We have all what it takes. Please stop spreading the hate. Let us concentrate of commerce and trade. That is our future. We are not terrorist , we are people of talent and a land of oppertunities. We have to stop this military doctrine which we have for 63 years.
If any of you want to comment please come up with some facts. dont do the crap thing most of the guys love doing.
To make things clear and to make ourself a better nation we should accept our faults. come to reality and make changes necessary to not try the things we did in the past.
so here you go, let me know if i am wrong in any of the things.
1- The question is who gave pakistan the right to go into kashmir and start the so called freedom movement. Are we a country or are we just a bunch of people living at one place? What happened in 65.. What was operation jibralter from the army. The army itself went into kashmir because of some group in kahsmir said they will support them and thousands of our army guys went it. Search on google and you will find. What happened in fact was that group backed out as soon as our people went inside kashmir. And they had real trouble there and lots of them lost there life. In return we had to fight a complete war with india.
2- If there was no inside movement in bangladesh and they had ruling there part and not the military . Indians would never get the chance to attack east pakistan. Even in balouchistan if we have developed there cities, if we have given them more options. If there were more schools, colleges. we could have make the few extremist sardaars away from the general public. We have not been able to do that. every one of us know the gas from sui reached peshawar but the town of sui got gas after 2000. Why? Dont they have the right on what they have. GIve them rights and they will always be with you. We have been tought wrong things. There is certainly nothing wrong in asking for rights. but if you dont give the right then offcourse there will be repucursions. Same happened with bangladesh. I hope we learn fromm it and dont repeat in balochistan.
3- Khalistan.. supported and got nothing.
4- Kargil: big mess got nothing.
5- All these lashkars and jaish things we made for indians , we got nothing , infact we got most of these groups started killing pakistanis.
Both the countries have done things that were not right. BOTH OF THEM. But the fact is they got half of us cut down from us . What we have left lets try to save it and not do the proxy wars. If we have the guts then have a full fight put the nuclear on there arses and wipe out. Which ofcourse we cannot . So why to fight.. Leaders from both the countries should sit and start the peace process. Once we are strong financially and india will have a market of 180 million and we will have market of 1.2 billion. We will both stop thinnking of using proxy wars. We will be more beneficiary .. why? because the balouch issue will calm down. We will be able to negotiate on the dams in a better way and we would not need to spend way to much on army. Even right now if we can give our entire budget to army ( half of it they are already taking) we cannot go on a war with them.
Face the realities, this is a new world where you will be strong only if you have booming economy. Look at where we stand today and look at where the indians are going. Why not beat them in economy. Why not tell them we are much competitive and we can take care of our country. If we dont stop doing what we are doing right now we will never ever be able to grow. Have any of us thought of this in 90s. India was way beghind us. But look right now after just 20 years. They are far far ahead. A regional super power competing with the world. We can do that. We have all what it takes. Please stop spreading the hate. Let us concentrate of commerce and trade. That is our future. We are not terrorist , we are people of talent and a land of oppertunities. We have to stop this military doctrine which we have for 63 years.
If any of you want to comment please come up with some facts. dont do the crap thing most of the guys love doing.
This is the military doctrine since last 63 years. Look at your text books, look at the media look at the government. Every one follows it. We have made the military so strong that they are not willing to give that power back.
What we got fromm that doctrine. Being seen as a terrorist state around the world. Lost half of pakistan. balochistan is almost out of our hands except queta. half of KPK out of our control. This is what you get when you give the army all the control. All they know is how to fight, how to do proxy wars, how to lie to the nation. How to get more fundings from our pockets.
Never have the army done a single credible thing. They cannot and will never understand what is the need of pakistan. Its only and only a stable and good economy and no proxy wars with any of our neighbours. Let us make it a commerce hub for entire south asia. We can do it. We have the potential and trust me we can even make it with our worst democratic leaders. But only if the military stops interfering with the foreign policies and stays in its consititutional limits.
We dont have time left to understand this. If even the educated people still believe in the bluffs of army then how can the government control them.
What we got fromm that doctrine. Being seen as a terrorist state around the world. Lost half of pakistan. balochistan is almost out of our hands except queta. half of KPK out of our control. This is what you get when you give the army all the control. All they know is how to fight, how to do proxy wars, how to lie to the nation. How to get more fundings from our pockets.
Never have the army done a single credible thing. They cannot and will never understand what is the need of pakistan. Its only and only a stable and good economy and no proxy wars with any of our neighbours. Let us make it a commerce hub for entire south asia. We can do it. We have the potential and trust me we can even make it with our worst democratic leaders. But only if the military stops interfering with the foreign policies and stays in its consititutional limits.
We dont have time left to understand this. If even the educated people still believe in the bluffs of army then how can the government control them.
Dont worry about pakistan. Pakistanis are aware of what our issues are. Every country have. We will be out of it . We have the courage and the guts to do unbelievable things
Masha allah kia comments hain. Is there any reason for why some one should reply to people like you? find something for what wrong they said and tell us. If not then go to your
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mom beta its time to change your nappy.
Unicorn
Banned
You guys are a minority and will be considered as Indian agents for holding these views as Mr. Sethi have stated. I hope guys like you make the majority.
