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Did you observe how Marvi seemed happy that Ibtisam Elahi used verses from the Bible but was critical about the negation of homosexuality in Quran. This shows two things. One, she has never read the Quran. Ibtasim mentioned about the Surahs in which the people of Lut a.s. are mentioned even then she seemed unsure whether homosexuality is negated in Quran. Two, she appeared to be more in favor of other religions than Islam.
She supported homosexuality by saying that every person should have the choice to have sex with another one they like. By the same token incest and pedophilia should also be correct according to her views. She is just against anything related to Islam. In the words of Malcolm X she is truly a house negro.
No2liberalExtermist,
What this really means is that you have ZERO embedded logic skills.
Since its also in bible and the maulvi said that america is still religious (in god we trust example), therefore he was refuting his own argument that this had a religious element to it.
The two examples you gave of incest and pedophilia are again very very ironic.
Both have been part of the Subcontinent culture (much more part of Pakistani culture).
Incest : pakistanis are known to marry their first cousins (some indian groups also practice this but is getting much less common). You might wanna google Journal of Genetic Counseling to figure out why marrying first cousins is wrong.
Pedophilia : This refers to relation with a minor, its not the same as gay and lesbian. Because, a minor doesnt have the emotional, mental and physical strength to ward off an adult. Therefore, its a crime. Pedophilia was rampant during the Mughals. Babur was bi-sexual.
If you still cant figure it out, then may gay and lesbians bless you.
Rahul
wt about mahatma ghandi and nehru??..ghandi was absolute gay....we just figured out..nw u get it??
No2liberalExtermist,
What this really means is that you have ZERO embedded logic skills.
Since its also in bible and the maulvi said that america is still religious (in god we trust example), therefore he was refuting his own argument that this had a religious element to it.
The two examples you gave of incest and pedophilia are again very very ironic.
Both have been part of the Subcontinent culture (much more part of Pakistani culture).
Incest : pakistanis are known to marry their first cousins (some indian groups also practice this but is getting much less common). You might wanna google Journal of Genetic Counseling to figure out why marrying first cousins is wrong.
Pedophilia : This refers to relation with a minor, its not the same as gay and lesbian. Because, a minor doesnt have the emotional, mental and physical strength to ward off an adult. Therefore, its a crime. Pedophilia was rampant during the Mughals. Babur was bi-sexual.
If you still cant figure it out, then may gay and lesbians bless you.
Rahul
wt about mahatma ghandi and nehru??..ghandi was absolute gay....we just figured out..nw u get it??
Marvi Semen can bark loud for Gays and Lesbians, but she is speechless about Guantanamo Bay and AbuGhuraib. She can never dare to speak about Sexual Harassment of Dr. Afia Siddiqui.
Now coming to the point Mr. Rahul, I am astonished if you really thinking that we don't know about Pedophilia and Incest. Just like enjoying Cow's urine is against health but sacred in Hinduism, Incest is allowed in Islam as well. The chances of Genetic Disorder by practicing Incest are much more less then there are direct threat on your health, if you drink any urine. Point is, its all about traditions.
Pedophilia, well, this is US:
"There are 400,000 registered sex offenders in the United States, and an estimated 80 to 100,000 of them are missing. They're supposed to be registered, but we don't know where they are and we don't know where they're living.
- Ernie Allen, President of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Childrento co-anchor Hannah Storm on The Early Show
Dr. Gene Abel estimates that between 1% and 5% of our population molest children
-CNN Specials Transcript #454-Thieves of Childhood.
1 in 5 violent offenders serving time in a state prison reported having victimized a child.
-BJS Survey of State Prison Inmates, 1991.
2/3 of all prisoners convicted of rape or sexual assault had committed their crime against a child.
-BJS Survey of State Prison Inmates, 1991.
While nearly 70% of those serving time for violent crimes against children were white, whites accounted for 40% of those imprisoned for violent crimes against adults.
-BJS Survey of State Prison Inmates, 1991.
Recidivism rates range from 18-45%. The more violent the crime the more likelihood of repeating.
-Studies by the state of Washington.
Like rape, child molestation is one of the most underreported crimes: only 1-10% are ever disclosed.
-FBI Law Enforcement Bulletin.
And yes, I have better figures about India. This one is enough I think to hit Indian spot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjBoB1CIMPo&feature=related
Remember, we are never proud of Pedophiles anywhere, we are never proud of Ahmedis being killed, neither are we proud of Women Abuse in Pakistan. We condemn all and we condemn Gays and Lesbians to same extent.
Rahul, fortunately and unfortunately, belief means that human logic has to surrender in front of divine instructions because human logic is fallible whereas God's word is the truth. Yes, there has been incest and paedophilia in South Asian culture but that does not mean that homosexuality should be condoned or even supported. By the way, there has been scientific research that shows that animals exhibit homosexuality only in captivity and not in wild i.e. in their natural environment. Therefore, homosexuality in humans is also not natural it is only due to pressures and stresses that exist in the modern society.
I dont understand why you gave Gandhi's example. First of all, Babur himself said he loved Baburi. Dont think Gandhi himself said he was gay.....and even if he was...so what ???
If there was no Gandhi, there would be no India or Pakistan.
Rahul, since you are u the spokesman for the gay and lesbian community
...what are u the pitcher or the reciever ??
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