therealfolk
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I just love this pic. It seems as M.A. Jinnah is unleashing his dogs on us before going back to his room to finish his half-finished cigarette. And guess what, the dogs did get unleashed afterall ;)
gazoomartian said:therealfolk said:![]()
I just love this pic. It seems as M.A. Jinnah is unleashing his dogs on us before going back to his room to finish his half-finished cigarette. And guess what, the dogs did get unleashed afterall ;)
Sorry, but I didnt get. I didnt even get if he is real Qaid
shagi said:This a fake picture of our beloved Qaid, I stronly object and demand from ''Siasat.pk'' administration to please erase this thread to stop hurting feelings of millions.
Star Gazer said:gazoomartian said:therealfolk said:![]()
I just love this pic. It seems as M.A. Jinnah is unleashing his dogs on us before going back to his room to finish his half-finished cigarette. And guess what, the dogs did get unleashed afterall ;)
Sorry, but I didnt get. I didnt even get if he is real Qaid
what are you trying to say? please clarify!!
therealfolk said:I just love this pic. It seems as M.A. Jinnah is unleashing his dogs on us before going back to his room to finish his half-finished cigarette. And guess what, the dogs did get unleashed afterall ;)
msohailshah said:Jinnah's Vision of Pakistan is a hotly debated topic. We can argue that Jinnah himself was secular in outlook but the message that he carried to the people was one based on a homeland for Muslims where they could form a system of governance based on Islamic principles.
Secondly, another one of the founding fathers Allama Iqbal openly argued for an Islamic system of government.
The Nazariya - e- Islami Jamhuriya Pakistan brigade are right on this one.
What's wrong with a theocracy ?
Islamic concept of sovereignty is good and Pakistani Constitution is based on it.
But a theocracy is run by the clergy which was unacceptable to both Quaid and Iqbal.
Mansoor Khan said:still our qaid is looking respectable but what about this pic of ur leader
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a good pic it is
mistehbab said:Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
@therealfolk: I don't know if you know this or not, but;
(1) Mr. Z.A Bhutto introduced Army or its intelligence agencies into Pakistani politics with one of his orders
Mr. Z.A Bhutto in his era, issued the order to put intelligence agencies directly under Prime Minister of Pakistan. From there started the brutal, unending, ever increasing! intervention of Army or its sub-agencies into Pakistani politics.
That was the starting point.
Mr mistehbab
I do not know where you have got this Bhutophobia from. May I ask you with due respect that was it ZA Bhuto Shaheed who made Gen. Sikander Mirza a Governor general of the east and west Pakistan and was it ZA Bhuto Shaheed who made Gen. Ayub Khan and Gen Azam Khan (Governor of east Pakistan) to run the country and was it ZA Bhuto Shaheed who introduced the Zani and Sharabi No1 Gen. Yahya Khan the president. Please do not deny the history. If it is not in our Mutalia Foujistan Almahroof Pakistan study it does not mean to deny the fact that Pakistan was created forand destroyed by the army. I am neither a PPP supporter nor an army (the true soldiers ie below the Gen. Ranks) opponent but as a true Pakistani we should work for the better of Pakistan and tell and show our people the true picture of those who failed Pakistan.
At least Shaheed e Mazloom ZA Bhuto gave Pakistan an honour to save the Pak army surrendering to the Indian or other army.
What the army gave to this country losing half of the country a Kalashnikov and heroin culture handed 700 loyal Muslim men and women to the non Muslim army (where as Shaheed e Mazloom ZA Bhuto saved 90,000 or so Pakistani Muslim surrendered army from the non Muslim army) Killing of thousand of innocent Pakistani Muslims in Pukhtunistan (formerly NWFP), Sindh, Balochistan and Punjab by the USA order Humiliated and degraded Muhsin e Pakistan (the real Father of Pakistan)Dr Abdul Qadir Khan in the whole world and is still suffering from them.
There are so much to expose but do not want to as end of the day it is our own Shame (Beizati).
nedai-swat said:mistehbab said:Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
@therealfolk: I don't know if you know this or not, but;
(1) Mr. Z.A Bhutto introduced Army or its intelligence agencies into Pakistani politics with one of his orders
Mr. Z.A Bhutto in his era, issued the order to put intelligence agencies directly under Prime Minister of Pakistan. From there started the brutal, unending, ever increasing! intervention of Army or its sub-agencies into Pakistani politics.
That was the starting point.
Mr mistehbab
I do not know where you have got this Bhutophobia from. May I ask you with due respect that was it ZA Bhuto Shaheed who made Gen. Sikander Mirza a Governor general of the east and west Pakistan and was it ZA Bhuto Shaheed who made Gen. Ayub Khan and Gen Azam Khan (Governor of east Pakistan) to run the country and was it ZA Bhuto Shaheed who introduced the Zani and Sharabi No1 Gen. Yahya Khan the president. Please do not deny the history. If it is not in our Mutalia Foujistan Almahroof Pakistan study it does not mean to deny the fact that Pakistan was created forand destroyed by the army. I am neither a PPP supporter nor an army (the true soldiers ie below the Gen. Ranks) opponent but as a true Pakistani we should work for the better of Pakistan and tell and show our people the true picture of those who failed Pakistan.
At least Shaheed e Mazloom ZA Bhuto gave Pakistan an honour to save the Pak army surrendering to the Indian or other army.
What the army gave to this country losing half of the country a Kalashnikov and heroin culture handed 700 loyal Muslim men and women to the non Muslim army (where as Shaheed e Mazloom ZA Bhuto saved 90,000 or so Pakistani Muslim surrendered army from the non Muslim army) Killing of thousand of innocent Pakistani Muslims in Pukhtunistan (formerly NWFP), Sindh, Balochistan and Punjab by the USA order Humiliated and degraded Muhsin e Pakistan (the real Father of Pakistan)Dr Abdul Qadir Khan in the whole world and is still suffering from them.
There are so much to expose but do not want to as end of the day it is our own Shame (Beizati).
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