12 may incident (the fact)

[ALI ARYAN]

You are currently visiting Karachi but dear I am living here since birth and saw everything from my own eyes what have happened here since so you know the situation is through few people but I know the situation of karachi since the beginning....I bet that you have never went to areas like Sohrab Goth, Safora Goth, Sikandar Goth, Banarus, Kati Paharh, Pahalwan Goth, Rabia city and other areas because no host in Karachi take their guest from those places because of security and these all areas which i have mentioned is actually ANP areas which have become no go areas for non Pashtuns in Karachi including Punjabis and Sindhis....So you might have asked those question from Chai wala or taxi wala but as you havent went to those areas so your infoemation is weak because if you ask any Karachiite you will get your answer as everyone in Karachi knows that Sohrab Goth is full of illegal weapons coming from outside Karachi and most of those weapons are actually supplied from their as well and ANP mafia is running the whole show in Sohrab goth.....Just on the basis few incident that you saw in gali Muhala you cant make a conclusion about whole Karachi as things here in Kaarachi are different in different areas so instead of just puting up few incident you are blaming whole thing on MQM while ignoring what criminal mafias others are running in this city....Karachi is one of the world's largest city with 20million inhabitants so by putting up the info of some Taxi driver and Chai wala you cant claim that this is happening everywhere....

BTW when Chai wala's hotel got removed did you asked him that if he had chance to open a hotel in Karachi which place he could have decide ANP areas or MQM areas????Ask any Chai wala that question as you are in Karachi to get their input as well because where ever i have seen so far even Pashtuns are reluctant to start their business in ANP areas...

That taxi driver you talked about he said that he had a contact with sector incharge so if MQM was against Pashtun do you expect that he could have asked a sector incharge or or even had any contacts with him???Since that incident their are situation which is developed in reaction to this incident that few MQM workers are watching Pashtuns with suspicion but it doesnt mean that its the same attitude 24/7 365 days in Karachi city and this is a nutural thing because ANP's Pashtuns have fired on MQM areas and also on MQM workers as well so this would be a natural attitude because no one knows that where bullets can come from but this is just suspicion just go to any ANP area you will find complete discrimination against non Pashtuns their as they arent even tolerating a non Pashtuns in their area and its their since 2 years but in MQM areas Pashtuns are freely moving and no one is stopping them(suspicion is another case but no one stopped anyone from moving in MQM areas)...This suspicion of a Pashtun being ANP worker is what ANp is using to get support of Pashtun people in Karachi....

So enjoy your visit and try to understand all sides of the picture in Karachi because even in this forum their are many Karachiite and most of them support MQM and they are not fools to do so their are some reason behind their support and not all Karachiite MQm supporter is a worker of MQM so clean up your mind from stuff like Karachiite supporting MQM means that they are their workers(this is for you and for all those who think that way)...

In Addition please make free ur mind with any affilation if you are visiting with your mind set against MQM than your conclusion will not true. I m from Karachi and I never went/visited to 90 (MQM ) please do me a favour go there and check this area is NO GO AREA or NOT?

 

[YAHYA87]

In Addition please make free ur mind with any affilation if you are visiting with your mind set against MQM than your conclusion will not true. I m from Karachi and I never went/visited to 90 (MQM ) please do me a favour go there and check this area is NO GO AREA or NOT?

Thanks for adding your point as I forgot to mentioned that...You said that you never went to 90(MQM) ever me to as I have only seen it from outside since I got no purpose their in 90(because I am not an MQm worker or any friend of person inside 90) so never visited their as well...

 

[majidkhan]

You are currently visiting Karachi but dear I am living here since birth and saw everything from my own eyes what have happened here since so you know the situation is through few people but I know the situation of karachi since the beginning....I bet that you have never went to areas like Sohrab Goth, Safora Goth, Sikandar Goth, Banarus, Kati Paharh, Pahalwan Goth, Rabia city and other areas because no host in Karachi take their guest from those places because of security and these all areas which i have mentioned is actually ANP areas which have become no go areas for non Pashtuns in Karachi including Punjabis and Sindhis....So you might have asked those question from Chai wala or taxi wala but as you havent went to those areas so your infoemation is weak because if you ask any Karachiite you will get your answer as everyone in Karachi knows that Sohrab Goth is full of illegal weapons coming from outside Karachi and most of those weapons are actually supplied from their as well and ANP mafia is running the whole show in Sohrab goth.....Just on the basis few incident that you saw in gali Muhala you cant make a conclusion about whole Karachi as things here in Kaarachi are different in different areas so instead of just puting up few incident you are blaming whole thing on MQM while ignoring what criminal mafias others are running in this city....Karachi is one of the world's largest city with 20million inhabitants so by putting up the info of some Taxi driver and Chai wala you cant claim that this is happening everywhere....

BTW when Chai wala's hotel got removed did you asked him that if he had chance to open a hotel in Karachi which place he could have decide ANP areas or MQM areas????Ask any Chai wala that question as you are in Karachi to get their input as well because where ever i have seen so far even Pashtuns are reluctant to start their business in ANP areas...

That taxi driver you talked about he said that he had a contact with sector incharge so if MQM was against Pashtun do you expect that he could have asked a sector incharge or or even had any contacts with him???Since that incident their are situation which is developed in reaction to this incident that few MQM workers are watching Pashtuns with suspicion but it doesnt mean that its the same attitude 24/7 365 days in Karachi city and this is a nutural thing because ANP's Pashtuns have fired on MQM areas and also on MQM workers as well so this would be a natural attitude because no one knows that where bullets can come from but this is just suspicion just go to any ANP area you will find complete discrimination against non Pashtuns their as they arent even tolerating a non Pashtuns in their area and its their since 2 years but in MQM areas Pashtuns are freely moving and no one is stopping them(suspicion is another case but no one stopped anyone from moving in MQM areas)...This suspicion of a Pashtun being ANP worker is what ANp is using to get support of Pashtun people in Karachi....

So enjoy your visit and try to understand all sides of the picture in Karachi because even in this forum their are many Karachiite and most of them support MQM and they are not fools to do so their are some reason behind their support and not all Karachiite MQm supporter is a worker of MQM so clean up your mind from stuff like Karachiite supporting MQM means that they are their workers(this is for you and for all those who think that way)...

But still you can't bend and distort the FACT and reality despite your long and boring explanations... that MQM is without any doubt ... Pakistan's most notorious and shameless party patronizing terrorism and practising immoral and unethical politics as they people demonstrated it many times. Only one of the example of this is 12th May incident and its very serious situation that recent target killings reflects that they people are still a threat to innocent citizens of Karachi. And by the way, what the hell is this, one morning any culprit stands from MQM and starts killing others without any reason. People have posted lots of material here in support for MQM.... and my friends, this shows the mass propaganda to hide the truth. Even they have showed the pictures of their own terrorists which are almost free of any identities or flags.

 

[ALI ARYAN]

Pasting photos of few selected people from a city of millions does not serve any purpose. Even the culprits camouflaged themselves in other party's flags and cloths to shift the blame on other. The necessity is that an Independent Judicial Commission under the supervision of Senior Judge of Supreme Court may be formed to investigate the matter. They should be given full protection keeping in view the fate of all those police officers in involved in Operation of 1992. No one talk about them. They were the first to be chosen by Culprits and killed one by one. The List will become a long charge sheet.

Respected Brother,

The major affecties of 12th May incident were MQM, ANP and PPPP total numbers of Shaeed victims were 50 (Approximately), MQM relaesed all his victims list with all detail. When Sindh High Court Judicional commisiion called witnesses to record thier statements only MQM witnesses were presented and with unknown reasons Sind High Court Judicional Commission stopped the activity and not recorded the witnesses without showing any reasons.

In other end all political partties ANP, PPP, JI and specialy Tehreek Insaaf just playing games in media and scoring points. They dont want to resolve this matter as early as possible, they just want to lying pending this issue like JINNAH PUR and Operation 92 for next 17 years. To stop this middle class leader ship only in Karachi and urban areas of Sind.

 

[YAHYA87]

But still you can't bend and distort the FACT and reality despite your long and boring explanations... that MQM is without any doubt ... Pakistan's most notorious and shameless party patronizing terrorism and practising immoral and unethical politics as they people demonstrated it many times. Only one of the example of this is 12th May incident and its very serious situation that recent target killings reflects that they people are still a threat to innocent citizens of Karachi. And by the way, what the hell is this, one morning any culprit stands from MQM and starts killing others without any reason. People have posted lots of material here in support for MQM.... and my friends, this shows the mass propaganda to hide the truth. Even they have showed the pictures of their own terrorists which are almost free of any identities or flags.

12may has been discussed in another thread so let me post the link regarding the thread where 12May is discussed in details...

http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthre...-150-Criminals-To-ANP-PPP-ISI-MI-amp-IB/page5

Read the page where I explained my point of view as Karachiite to another Hater like you and if you still left with any doubts then come and ask me about that...Thats what I can give you opportunity to put your position clear as you are in Britain so instead of embarrassing British and British Pakistani society with your blame game and accusation based on myths come up with solid reasons because you are doing no favor for anyone but instead embarrassing the society where you are at this moment....BTW and remember you you are the same person who was telling me story of Sector incharge arent you???your whole story was caught easily as I am a resident of Karachi and being a Karachiite I do know the way they operate so relax and dont get yourself to much on those issues which you know nothing about as more you hate more your blood will burn and this aint gonna favor me or MQM but it surely will gonna harm you as anger is hazard for health...

Related to MQM I am a Karachiite and I know things that much as you know about your place where you live most of your life so first get yourself updated and then come back and say anything and if you are another petient of MQM-phobia then keep barking no one cares as this is your habit which cant be changed easily...

 

[ALI ARYAN]

12may has been discussed in another thread so let me post the link regarding the thread where 12May is discussed in details...

http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthre...-150-Criminals-To-ANP-PPP-ISI-MI-amp-IB/page5

Read the page where I explained my point of view as Karachiite to another Hater like you and if you still left with any doubts then come and ask me about that...Thats what I can give you opportunity to put your position clear as you are in Britain so instead of embarrassing British and British Pakistani society with your blame game and accusation based on myths come up with solid reasons because you are doing no favor for anyone but instead embarrassing the society where you are at this moment....BTW and remember you you are the same person who was telling me story of Sector incharge arent you???your whole story was caught easily as I am a resident of Karachi and being a Karachiite I do know the way they operate so relax and dont get yourself to much on those issues which you know nothing about as more you hate more your blood will burn and this aint gonna favor me or MQM but it surely will gonna harm you as anger is hazard for health...

Related to MQM I am a Karachiite and I know things that much as you know about your place where you live most of your life so first get yourself updated and then come back and say anything and if you are another petient of MQM-phobia then keep barking no one cares as this is your habit which cant be changed easily...

Every day These kind of people is coming out to blame MQM for killing, Now you have your Chief Justice is in power, why u are asking or blaming here?

1) Go and ask Chief Justice why he is not taking so motive step about 12th May 2007.
2) Go and Ask Imran khan he is planning since last 2 years to go UK and file case against ALtaf Hussain, why he is not filing case in Pakistan any court (May be he dont believe on Paksitani Courts).
3) Go and ask PPPP why they have Politcal Alliance with MQM and every B category leader of PPPP is blaming MQM for killing of 12th May 2007.
4) Go and Ask lawyers movement why they dont have a time to persue the case, file the case against MQM and ask them who hijacked the lawyers movement on 12th May 2007 when CJ was arriving to Karachi.

If you cant go and dont have a courage to ask them than go and file urself case against MQM in court of Pakistan (Cahay Dogar Court ho Ya Chaudry Court).
Wavela Kar ke Apna qeemti Time zaya na karo.

 

[shaheedchoudry]

What the F***!!!! I'm sick of that bloody MQM supporters.. I don't wanna argue about this any-more you shitty idiot man!! Despite discussing reasonably you are blaming me!! This attitude of yours will keep you people in deep shit.... Get the F*** out of here now !!!

calm down brother, they drive me nuts also but i like to handle it with caution. please don't give up. answer them accordingly.

 

[shaheedchoudry]

Ye sari jamate ek sath mil jaee tab hi mqm my ek mna ka moqbala ni karsakta hy. I will advise you please go to election website check mqm mna and mpas and their no of votes. Then your eyes will come out oh what I have written sorry. Noone is stronger than MQM.

MQM has more guns than all parties combined. so unless these guns are taken away, people of karachi will remain hostage and mqm will keep claiming victory.

 

[discover]

Dear brothers

I am currently visiting Karachi. This is my practice to take interview to whomever i meet.

We all know MQM and its activities if anyone do not think them TERRORIST then I am sorry to say but he knows nothing or simply Zalim.

I am telling what i found in my current visit just to make other people aware if they are not.

MQM is deliberately creating Putthan/Muhajir issue in Karachi in the name of Taliban. They are doing propaganda that Talibans are coming and we need to kick them out.

But in fact they are removing normal patthans from their businesses and threatening them to close and leave whereever they are.

Here are few events of which I or my brother is witness:

1. They removed one of the very old pathan hotel in Landhi stop no 4. Patthan was standing alone but no one was saying anything while his Rozi was being closed.

2. I used taxi today and start talking to driver he asked me "Brother what is happening here. We are muslims but they (MQM) guys came to me before you and asked if i am Pathan then leave your taxi and run away" Then finally after using his relations with sector incharge he managed to escape. But he was very worried.

I heard other stories as well but I cannot witness as I do not have credible witness.

To write this message is just to find ways to stop this ZULM and let people know what is happening.

Salam

Why dont you tell the people that you are ISI agent I was visiting Karachi.

 

[discover]

What the F***!!!! I'm sick of that bloody MQM supporters.. I don't wanna argue about this any-more you shitty idiot man!! Despite discussing reasonably you are blaming me!! This attitude of yours will keep you people in deep shit.... Get the F*** out of here now !!!

Emergency case treat him immediately Pls.

 

[YAHYA87]

What the F***!!!! I'm sick of that bloody MQM supporters.. I don't wanna argue about this any-more you shitty idiot man!! Despite discussing reasonably you are blaming me!! This attitude of yours will keep you people in deep shit.... Get the F*** out of here now !!!

This was the same way which you were blaming MQm now when you go through same kind of words how did you feel???Did you feel good so one friendly advice to you "before blaming someone first check that how much blame you can take this would help you a lot"...Since you were blaming MQm unreasonably but when i put you in MQm's place and show you the mirror you are like get out of here so you must have thought before your own choice of words that you cant make fool or dont distort facts...

 

[Zorro]

What the F***!!!! I'm sick of that bloody MQM supporters.. I don't wanna argue about this any-more you shitty idiot man!! Despite discussing reasonably you are blaming me!! This attitude of yours will keep you people in deep shit.... Get the F*** out of here now !!!

Admin Took some vital action upon A.Majid's statement.. Here don't use any abusive language to any other..!!
Whatever, Bhai saab, MQM has a great mandate and Now MQM is going to progress level..!! Respect all of Political parties.