0.6% tax is non-adjustable and it is on Tax Filers and Non Tax Filers (PML-N lie exposed)

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
ntn is not a question. you cannot open bank account without ntn. question is whether person is filer or nonfiler.

is thread se pata chalta ha ke pakistan ke log kitne jahil ha aur economy ke baray me unki malumat kiya ha. tabhi ye nawazardi ko vote dete hain.


Read Brown
and then see rad applies to who ..
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Its Active Tax Payers list, i.e. the person who files return of income tax even it is NIL return.
Having NTN merely does not puts you on Active Tax Payers List.

Jis cheez ka pata na ho, us per expert nahi bana kero

Lolz,
Tax payers list will be through NTN not a separate list


 

Charge Sheet

MPA (400+ posts)
no bank keeps record of tax returns of their account holders in the world. fbr has 25000 employees what are they doing earning haram ki kamai? instead of catching tax evaders they want to collect taxes using bhatta.

FBR wale kaam kerna hi nahi chahtay, they want to get maximum FTR/withholding tax, now they are making Panel of chartered accountants for sales tax and incharge of the panel would be Assistant or deputy commissioner income tax. This formula will fail and blame would be borne by chartered accountant firms.

Sales tax act main tou Lul khrul banday bithai howe hain, jinhain khud bhi act ka nahi pata.
 

arafay

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

Yes one can imagine how much so called parhay likhay ghatya soch walay behave
Banks have been given access to that data
and if they don't find it, you can take a printout and show it them ...

abay mariam ke gullu this is a withholding tax, govt will cut the tax whether you are filer or not (only different rate for filer and non filer). then after the year is over you will have to list all checks, pay orders, bank transactions you have done throughout the year in your tax return and ask for refund from fbr. do you think people have time to keep record of every check and bank transaction to claim refund. how much rishwat will fbr guy take to issue refund?

other withholding taxes include ptcl bill, k-electric (if bill is over some amount) bill, mobile cards, internet (just introduced) bill over rs 1000.

you need a munshi to keep all this record specially if you are a small business owner and do few dozen transactions per month.

mariam aur uske gullus ne hamesha haramka khaya isliye tax ki abc bhi nahi malum haram khoro ko.
 

Charge Sheet

MPA (400+ posts)
For the bank accounts, Only one bank account is mentioned when filing for NTN, in TRF 01 form.

Businessmen usually open and close their accounts within the same fiscal year, FBR has lull access to that.
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
abay mariam ke gullu this is a withholding tax, govt will cut the tax whether you are filer or not (only different rate for filer and non filer). then after the year is over you will have to list all checks, pay orders, bank transactions you have done throughout the year in your tax return and ask for refund from fbr. do you think people have time to keep record of every check and bank transaction to claim refund. how much rishwat will fbr guy take to issue refund?

other withholding taxes include ptcl bill, k-electric (if bill is over some amount) bill, mobile cards, internet (just introduced) bill over rs 1000.

you need a munshi to keep all this record specially if you are a small business owner and do few dozen transactions per month.

mariam aur uske gullus ne hamesha haramka khaya isliye tax ki abc bhi nahi malum haram khoro ko.

lolz, love your misery
we have been paying 0.3 percent already and existing tax payers will continue to pay that
non tax payers will pay 0.6 percent on anything above 50K withdrawn from bank or even transfer from one account to anoher
Po.ti head it is as simple as this ...
 

arafay

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

lolz, love your misery
we have been paying 0.3 percent already and existing tax payers will continue to pay that
non tax payers will pay 0.6 percent on anything above 50K withdrawn from bank or even transfer from one account to anoher
Po.ti head it is as simple as this ...

pahle sirf bank se paisa nikalane pe .3% withholding tax tha. ab har transaction pe ha.

withholding tax advance tax hota ha matlab paisay pahle cut jatay hain. ab jisne return file kiya wo claim karsakta ha ke bhai mene return file kiya ab mere 0.6% wapsi do. ye alag baat ha ke nawaz ****** ki corrupt govt se paisa milege ya nahi iska kuch nahi kaha sakta. govt ne exporters ke bhi arbo rupees refund nahi diye ek saal se.

ab har bank transaction over 50k/day pe .6% tax cut hoga. jo log return file karege unko shayed miljaye wapis. lekin jo logo tax exempt ha wo kaisay wapis lege? maslan kisi ki salary ha 30k. wo tax exempt ha yani uspe koi tax nahi lagta aur na hi usko return file karna ha. wo apne ilaah ke liye 1 lac rupee apne account se nilkalay ga tu usko 600rs dena hoga govt ko. ab ye banda kese wo 600 rs wapis lega kyunke isne tu return file hi nahi karna.

isi tarhan ek bewah ne apna plot kareedna ha apni savings se. usne 20 lac ki payment karna ha tu uske 12000 advance tax cut gaya. lekin wapis kese milega?

bank transactions ke saath telephone, bijli, internet aur mobile pe bhi withholding taxes ha. abkoi naukri pesha ager 100rs ka card load karta ha usko 15rs govt advanace tax cut karleti ha. 95% logo malum nahi ke wo return file karke ye paisa wapis lesakata hain.
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
pahle sirf bank se paisa nikalane pe .3% withholding tax tha. ab har transaction pe ha.

withholding tax advance tax hota ha matlab paisay pahle cut jatay hain. ab jisne return file kiya wo claim karsakta ha ke bhai mene return file kiya ab mere 0.6% wapsi do. ye alag baat ha ke nawaz ****** ki corrupt govt se paisa milege ya nahi iska kuch nahi kaha sakta. govt ne exporters ke bhi arbo rupees refund nahi diye ek saal se.

ab har bank transaction over 50k/day pe .6% tax cut hoga. jo log return file karege unko shayed miljaye wapis. lekin jo logo tax exempt ha wo kaisay wapis lege? maslan kisi ki salary ha 30k. wo tax exempt ha yani uspe koi tax nahi lagta aur na hi usko return file karna ha. wo apne ilaah ke liye 1 lac rupee apne account se nilkalay ga tu usko 600rs dena hoga govt ko. ab ye banda kese wo 600 rs wapis lega kyunke isne tu return file hi nahi karna.

isi tarhan ek bewah ne apna plot kareedna ha apni savings se. usne 20 lac ki payment karna ha tu uske 12000 advance tax cut gaya. lekin wapis kese milega?

bank transactions ke saath telephone, bijli, internet aur mobile pe bhi withholding taxes ha. abkoi naukri pesha ager 100rs ka card load karta ha usko 15rs govt advanace tax cut karleti ha. 95% logo malum nahi ke wo return file karke ye paisa wapis lesakata hain.

good, some common sense prevails ..
yes a widow will have to pay 12000 tax on 20 lac buying or even selling unless she comes to agree to pay 49000 each day for 25 days
or she will en cash 49000 starting 25 days before the due date if she is buying or get all in cash if she is selling
but how many widows are in these circumstances? millions?
there is no doubt that increase in tax hurts the poor most as it is trickles down to poor rather quickly whereas a reduction in tax hardly benefit the poor but govt finds herself at dead-end as this tax is levied on core of Noon voting class. I will personally suffer from this tax as well but let the people on borderline come into tax bandwagon. I know one former chairman CBR had collected data of all posh societies and created tax bands, Govt should impose tax based on value of houses and number of cars in a household but they seem to have chickened out as they do not wish to alienate burger class further and killing their own vote bank ...
 

arafay

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

good, some common sense prevails ..
yes a widow will have to pay 12000 tax on 20 lac buying or even selling unless she comes to agree to pay 49000 each day for 25 days
or she will en cash 49000 starting 25 days before the due date if she is buying or get all in cash if she is selling
but how many widows are in these circumstances? millions?
there is no doubt that increase in tax hurts the poor most as it is trickles down to poor rather quickly whereas a reduction in tax hardly benefit the poor but govt finds herself at dead-end as this tax is levied on core of Noon voting class. I will personally suffer from this tax as well but let the people on borderline come into tax bandwagon. I know one former chairman CBR had collected data of all posh societies and created tax bands, Govt should impose tax based on value of houses and number of cars in a household but they seem to have chickened out as they do not wish to alienate burger class further and killing their own vote bank ...

No you are wrong again. Govt should reform fbr so that it becomes a powerful independent institute that can catch any tax evader without any political interference. This is how tax authorities work in other countries. In Pakistan fbr cannot sieze raiwand palace but in USA, IRS can sieze Obama's properties if they find any hanky panky.

Also you conveniently ignored salaried people and got stuck on widow buying property. This just proves your patwari mentality.
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
No you are wrong again. Govt should reform fbr so that it becomes a powerful independent institute that can catch any tax evader without any political interference. This is how tax authorities work in other countries. In Pakistan fbr cannot sieze raiwand palace but in USA, IRS can sieze Obama's properties if they find any hanky panky.

Also you conveniently ignored salaried people and got stuck on widow buying property. This just proves your patwari mentality.

I am pleased that you finally found the proof you wanted
Tumahai Zindgi ka Maqsad Kahtam Hua

You guys keep yourself in that f... world of illusion and stay happy ...
 

I am pleased that you finally found the proof you wanted
Tumahai Zindgi ka Maqsad Kahtam Hua

You guys keep yourself in that f... world of illusion and stay happy ...

بھای مجھے لگتا ہے آپ اپنے دل میں اس قوم کے لیے درد رکھتے ہیں۔ تو پھر اسحاق ڈار کب ٹیکس ڈیفالٹرز کی لسٹ شایع کر رہا ہے وعدہ کے مطابق؟ یا پھر اسے بھی جوش خطابت سمجھوں؟
http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-13-29787-Tax-directory-hides-names-of-tax-defaulters
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
بھای مجھے لگتا ہے آپ اپنے دل میں اس قوم کے لیے درد رکھتے ہیں۔ تو پھر اسحاق ڈار کب ٹیکس ڈیفالٹرز کی لسٹ شایع کر رہا ہے وعدہ کے مطابق؟ یا پھر اسے بھی جوش خطابت سمجھوں؟
http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-13-29787-Tax-directory-hides-names-of-tax-defaulters

Bhai I am waiting myself
I will sign your petition if your intend to file one ..
 
another problem is that this tax is implemented on people who are NOT REQUIRED to file returns. for eg. those who do job, their income tax is deducted by their employer before sending salary to their account. This means, these people have already paid income tax and they dont have to file returns if they dont do any other business. however, these guys still pay withholding tax on mobile, internet and cash withdraw of over 50k. this new law will now deduct more tax 0.6% on all transaction - pay order, check, bank to bank transfer (even when both bank accounts belong to same person)


You still need to file a return mentioning how much taxes are deducted on source.
 

Bhai I am waiting myself
I will sign your petition if your intend to file one ..

ماشااللہ اس سادگی پے کون نا مر جاے اے خدا۔ سارا دن آپ نون لیگ کو ڈیفنڈ کرتے رہتے ہیں اور جیسے ہی میں نے نون لیگ کی بیغیرتی کا ٹھوس ثبوت پیش کیا تو آپ فورا معصوم بن گیے کے جیسے آپ کو کچھ پتا ہی نہیں۔
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
ماشااللہ اس سادگی پے کون نا مر جاے اے خدا۔ سارا دن آپ نون لیگ کو ڈیفنڈ کرتے رہتے ہیں اور جیسے ہی میں نے نون لیگ کی بیغیرتی کا ٹھوس ثبوت پیش کیا تو آپ فورا معصوم بن گیے کے جیسے آپ کو کچھ پتا ہی نہیں۔

True
Not a Baigharat like Po.ti Heads who defend everything like IK is a Saint and PTI does noting wrong ..
 

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