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Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
I disagree with you civilized conflict resolution methods are no guaranty to avoid conflict.
thats what is proved from that incidents.

Its totally negative approach if you look at it like that in case of a conflict we have to know the reason of the conflict and according to that we can decide who was responsible for the conflict.

Muslims were expanding at that time and those who hated islam were always in search of an opportunity to destroy it.And they did target the most important personalities in the muslim world.

I am surprised why you clearly ignore the advantages of that system.
A better discussion would be to discuss the fitnas of that time how people of that time faced these fitnas ,and such fitnas will be around us till the day of judgement.

Please note that some of the IDs are dedicated to attack the Muslim Ideology. So ignore them please. Sooraj pay thooknay walay kay apnay munh par .........
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
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Originally Posted by Pragmatic
Please do mention that 3 out of 4 were killed ...Question here is... Y ? if that had supposedly the best system?

Brother define the best system practically implemented on the face of the earth.
 

biomat

Minister (2k+ posts)
Dear Brother Wadaich Assalam-o-alaikum
You are wasting your time here brother. Trust me. Mr Pragmatic will not elaborate what he meant, he just want to keep you busy.
Khalifas were assasinated by infiltrators, Even Hazrat Ali RA was assasinated by those who invited him to change the capital. So very serious plans were involved. So this doesnot involved KHILAFAT or SHARIAT failure. If u want to know more, you can see FALL OF CALIPHATE series.
What happened to King Faisal shaheed (one of a kind amongst Arab rulers after fall of caliphate) how he was assasinated, by his own nephew & used by foreign powers who dont want to see any true leader who can change fortune of Muslim UMMAH.
Jaza-k-ALLAH
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Falsehood is bound to perish

Dear Brother Wadaich Assalam-o-alaikum
You are wasting your time here brother. Trust me. Mr Pragmatic will not elaborate what he meant, he just want to keep you busy.
Khalifas were assasinated by infiltrators, Even Hazrat Ali RA was assasinated by those who invited him to change the capital. So very serious plans were involved. So this doesnot involved KHILAFAT or SHARIAT failure. If u want to know more, you can see FALL OF CALIPHATE series.
What happened to King Faisal shaheed (one of a kind amongst Arab rulers after fall of caliphate) how he was assasinated, by his own nephew & used by foreign powers who dont want to see any true leader who can change fortune of Muslim UMMAH.
Jaza-k-ALLAH

JazakallahKhair!

I have noticed that from the last few week a number of newbies has sprouted on the forum like useless shrubs in the rainy season. And most of them are focused on Islamic threads with baseless arguments.

To me we are facing 4th generation warfare. These are cyber cops of satanic army whose mission is to attack anything which promotes islamic ideology. So, I feel we must expose them. Because falsehood is bound to perish.
 

biomat

Minister (2k+ posts)
Brother wadaich
Assalam-o-alaikum
But we should not leave HIKMAT while exposing them. But ALLAH have the power to give us all Hidayat, we can only place our logic & proofs in front of them. We cannot force them.
May ALLAH give you reward for this..
Jaza-k-ALLAH
 

Pragmatic

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
"Oh mere Allah".......I had very simple question and following answers I got for it ....Are these logical answers with Hikmat?

1. Attack on Islamic Ideology
2. Cyber cops of satanic army
3. Zionist agenda
4. Define the best system...... So on

Dear question I had

... Why 3/4 or 75% of the "Qaroon-e-Ala " leadership was removed by these heinous and horrendous atrocities ?

... Why they were not able to put a system in place that could have been used to avoid such a sad and miserable situation happening again and again.

....Even though the guidance of Prophet was there......
Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "A believer is not stung twice (by something) out of one and the same hole." (Book #73, Hadith #154) Al-Bukhari


Oh my God can you believe ( Hazarat-e-Umer, Hazrat-e-usman and Hazrat Ali) one after the other.
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
"Oh mere Allah".......I had very simple question and following answers I got for it ....Are these logical answers with Hikmat?

1. Attack on Islamic Ideology
2. Cyber cops of satanic army
3. Zionist agenda
4. Define the best system...... So on

Dear question I had

... Why 3/4 or 75% of the "Qaroon-e-Ala " leadership was removed by these heinous and horrendous atrocities ?

... Why they were not able to put a system in place that could have been used to avoid such a sad and miserable situation happening again and again.

....Even though the guidance of Prophet was there......
Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "A believer is not stung twice (by something) out of one and the same hole." (Book #73, Hadith #154) Al-Bukhari


Oh my God can you believe ( Hazarat-e-Umer, Hazrat-e-usman and Hazrat Ali) one after the other.

We ignore people like you with grace.
 

biomat

Minister (2k+ posts)
Dear Pragmatic
Salam.
I think if you could have posted the above question in first place, this would not have been happened.
As text messaging or information is v dangerous, as it can be interpretted in extreme opposite meanings if it is not clearly stated. But in personal face to face talk, you can get the idea from face reaction & body language, so in sending text message be careful to explain as much as u can what u want to ask or what u want to say. Please note that none of the members (as of my knowledge) are PHD in Islamic History, so for your question the first step should be to explore yourself & then get back to this thread with your findings, if some one agrees they will leave positive feedback & even praise you. On the other hand if some one disagrees with you, they will leave negative feedback with their remarks. So GOT MY POINT, do some research & then get back to this thread. No one will spoon feed you with the information, first try yourself then ask others. I hope you got my point. So insha ALLAH we will be waiting for your scholastic or research oriented reply. With highest regards. jaza-k-ALLAH.
 

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