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Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

That is the proper Dhabar Dhoos style..... actually before asking to implicate 62/63 from SC, try to read what is written in Article 69 of the constitution of Pakistan



Source:https://pakistanconstitutionlaw.com...to-proceedings-of-majlis-e-shoora-parliament/

In my own limited point of view, it does require a JIT to implicate 62/63
Poor doctor you are bent upon terming him schyzophrenic and anyother who question the logic of this judicial proceeding.Your inclination toward PML were clear upon me.there is no question of majlis shoora or Article as the Court has declared that these proceedings can be called into question at SC forum.Just read the proceedings in detail.
Further this crime minister didnot only lie on the floor of parliament but in his address to the nation also.
This is very low on your part that you declare other persons who don't agree with your viewpoint as dhabar doos.Be remain in the circle of decency if you claim to move in high circles.

 

rtabasum2

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

To be honest, such meetings are never affixed at a venue like PM house, it is heavily bugged and movements are monitored and logged. Neither do I consider an SC judge to be a fool enough to meet PM in person. Even if there was something, there are many ways of communication and negotiation.

Secondly, it is already decided that GOvt will get a clean chit in Dawn leaks case, because if they nab someone, it means that they are accepting that the news which was leaked was true..... and this does not go into the favor of Pakistan and its Army on an international scale.

Rather, I was thinking that why the JIT includes MI and ISI??? wouldn't it be a place for someone from IB and SECP? I think that ISI is there to investigate, and MI is there to let the Army decide the outcome of the JIT.

*Correction: Dunya News is not owned by Malik Riaz. Owner of Dunya News is Miyan Aamir Mahmood... I mean you are giving an ''inside information'' about a highly-confidential-secret-meeting inside Prime Minister house with date and exact time, at least characters of the meetings shouldn't be confused. :)

No again a rumour as I forgot to put a comma .......but these rumours are spread by fauji tweeps.........anyway the whole point is the decision looks like a muk mukkka.........IK was again used by establishment as a pawn to keep NS in line........rest as that Aunty says SAAB MILAY Huway hain hum saab ko ***** baana rehay hain
 

Sohail Shuja

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Poor doctor you are bent upon terming him schyzophrenic and anyother who question the logic of this judicial proceeding.Your inclination toward PML were clear upon me.there is no question of majlis shoora or Article as the Court has declared that these proceedings can be called into question at SC forum.Just read the proceedings in detail.
Further this crime minister didnot only lie on the floor of parliament but in his address to the nation also.
This is very low on your part that you declare other persons who don't agree with your viewpoint as dhabar doos.Be remain in the circle of decency if you claim to move in high circles.


The logic is simple... if the decision was changed (as per Doctor) then how did he know? Can he know this without having a look at the decision himself? So isn't he basically accusing someone else of the crime he committed himself?

Poor doctor..... spilled his beans everywhere and now crying...Patwaris are up his ...... ahem, ahem.... neck (I guess)
 
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Sohail Shuja

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
No again a rumour as I forgot to put a comma .......but these rumours are spread by fauji tweeps.........anyway the whole point is the decision looks like a muk mukkka.........IK was again used by establishment as a pawn to keep NS in line........rest as that Aunty says SAAB MILAY Huway hain hum saab ko ***** baana rehay hain

What is so surprising about the Mukk mukaa? anyone could see it

Now after the JIT report, this one case of Panama will be divided into six or seven smaller cases (Hudabiya mills + Mayfair flats ownership + Dar Statement etc.) The main pressure will thus be diffused and things will focus more on others than NS himself. Meanwhile, he is to remain PM until 2018. Army has to guard its own interests here. They don't want a political turmoil in the country. They are comfortable with the things as they are.

IK cannot defy the Army in this case and why should he? wasn't he and JKT were given clean chits in ECP? Anyone could've guessed what the decision of Panama is going to be on that day.

In short: Bikk gayee hay yeh Gorment
 

WatanDost

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
پٹواری نے بڑی محنت سے سٹوری بنائی ہے
لیکن پلاٹ والی بات کو لسی سمجھ کر ڈکار گیا
جناب ١٢ کے بجاے ٢١ اپریل کو بھی تو الاٹ
ہو سکتا تھا نا ؟؟
یا فیصلہ سناتے ہی ریٹائر ہو جانا تھا ؟
اور استحقاق تو استحقاق ٹہرا ریٹائرمینٹ
کے بعد بھی قائم رہنا تھا ہے کے نہیں؟


چلو اب میاں ساانپ کو دودھ پلاؤ وہ باجی
مریم کو پلاے گا اور باجی مریم میڈیا سیل
کے کلبلاتے کیڑوں کو
 

PappuChikna

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
shahid masood is a known mental case.

he has proven himself mental tens of times.

phir bhi log iss kee baat ko sutay aur serious laytay hein.
 

mubarik Shah

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Dr. Shahid is right in saying that Nawaz Sharif knew about the final verdict.... "3 -2 split" decision in his favor, as he was the enforcer of the tainted decision with the "help" of CJ of Pakistan Nisar Saqib.
But word "favor" was sugar coated by these judges....

the reason was obvious. Judges did not want to give him a "clean chit".
Their sealed short decision was not the same as their final verdict.

So the result we all saw was that as soon as court started talking all over social and other media, everyone was hearing about "3-2 split" decision, not paying attention to what the text of the verdict was.

Nawaz mafia assumed that it is the same 3-2 split decision which was enforced by them....... so they did not care what is in the detailed +500 pages verdict....

So when dust from bangra celebrations settled down.... someone gave this mafia, piece of his mind, by suggesting them, to read and pay attention to what the verdict is saying... which was split 3-2 decision all-right but not the way Godfather wanted......

that is why a public speech was ready to be delivered but when they realized as to what has happened they decided to postponed that speech....

That is why 2 of "those" judges are "barred by Saqib" not to be in the JIT team.....

Dr. Shahid was right....
If anyone has any doubt on the loyalty of Dr. saab with Pakistan..... or his competence as a journalist then he/she can test Dr. Shahid.Test could be in the form of a Live TV interview of Prime Minister, Nawaz Sharif hosted by Dr. Shahid.
This interview should be live, without any editing, without any commercial breaks.....
This will be a real test of Dr. Shahid's capability as a journalist and Nawaz Sharif being the Prime Minister of Pakistan........
 
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Opalred

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Was IK meeting with coas was compromising IK on panama issue? Ik was told to stay quiet as intl establsmnt want NS????
 

mubarik Shah

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Was IK meeting with coas was compromising IK on panama issue? Ik was told to stay quiet as intl establsmnt want NS????



Not sure what the message was but look who was the messenger... General Baja.... who is proving to be Gen Kiyani-2 so far.....
 

ualis

Minister (2k+ posts)
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nadeem01

Senator (1k+ posts)

بھائی ڈاکٹر پاگل ہے تو کیا عدالت کے لیئے ضروری ہے کہ وہ بھ پاگل پن کا مظاہرہ کریں؟ ڈاکٹر اگر اتنا محب وطن ہے تو کیوں نہیں رپورٹ درج کرواتا اپنے نام سے کہ جناب اس مسئلے کی تفتیش کروائی جائے اور اپنے پاس موجود شواہدات انکے سامنے پیش کرتا؟ اسکے خیال میں یہ جج ایسے ہی ہیں کہ سرورق گاڈ فادر کا جملہ لکھ کر سمندر کو کوزے میں بند کرتے ہوئے فیصلہ سنا دیں، لیکن باقی کا فیصلہ تبدیل ہونے پر خود سے کسی کی کان گوشی بھی نہ کریں، بلکہ دوھ پی کر سوئے رہیں؟

chor ka chamcha bhi chor hi hota hea....................
 

Zaidi Qasim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)

What is so surprising about the Mukk mukaa? anyone could see it

Now after the JIT report, this one case of Panama will be divided into six or seven smaller cases (Hudabiya mills + Mayfair flats ownership + Dar Statement etc.) The main pressure will thus be diffused and things will focus more on others than NS himself. Meanwhile, he is to remain PM until 2018. Army has to guard its own interests here. They don't want a political turmoil in the country. They are comfortable with the things as they are.

IK cannot defy the Army in this case and why should he? wasn't he and JKT were given clean chits in ECP? Anyone could've guessed what the decision of Panama is going to be on that day.

In short: Bikk gayee hay yeh Gorment

Would you blame NS for it ? Had you been there in power and you were trying to rebuild on the ruins of the country left over by a dictator and then a most corrupt person in the history of Pakistan , and you see opposition, right from the day one trying to pull your legs and try to undermine you first on the name of rigging the election and then starting a non stop agitation causing chaos in the country. In the end, the establishment won and won big by breaking the democratic forces and forcing them to fight among themselves. Now, its a doggy world out there. Every man for himself. Need to read Fatiha on demise of civility,freedom and democratic principles.


 

ualis

Minister (2k+ posts)
A thief and murderer like nawaz khaanzeer is responsible for the chaos in Pakistan. He along with zardari khaanzeer/Altaf khaanzeer should be hanged in public.
 
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LivePakistan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Waste of time to comment on this decision. When Ayyan Ali get her name cleared from ECL and went abroad without any punishment despite video evidence, do you expect these courts and their greedy judges can do any miracle by sacking Nawaz Sharif. This will never happen in Pakistan and there is no such court exist which can send Sharif family mafia to jail for looting Pakistan's money. These judges are partner in crime with Sharif family. Very soon, this Army will become Punjab Police as Sharfi family has already started to appoint their relative like ISI chief Naveed Mukhtar.

I advise to D. Shahid that he should never keep our hopes alive. He should discuss international affairs and let this nation lick the dust as it deserves to be punished by mafias like Sharif and Zardari.
 
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Onlypakistan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Ab to noora ghar mae baeth ker mariam bibi ko corruption k gur sikhaney mae masroof ha . Panama k baad dawn leak sae us ka nam clear ho jaey ga ,jit k leye to is ki poori tayari ha ,,,,,,lekin shaid ab pakistani qaum zardari aur noorey jaisey
corrupt logon ko samaj rahee ha .bas kambakht patwari apni auqat sae majboor haen
 

crankthskunk

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

پاگل تو انھیں صرف اس بات ر کہا جا رہا ہے کہ یہ ان پٹواریوں کے میسجز پڑھ کر جو رسی کا سانپ بنا رہے ہیں۔
باقی اس بات پر تو انھیں پرلے درجے کا احمق ہی کہا جا سکتا ہے کہ یہ شخص پہلے تو خود کہتا ہے کہ میں نے فیصلہ دیکھا تھا اور یہ وہ والا فیصلہ نہیں ہے، لیکن خود یہ نہیں سوچتا کہ خود ہی ایک طرف اقبال جرم کر رہا ہے کہ فیصلہ تو پہلے اسے لیک ہوا تھا۔


دوسری بات وزیر اعظم کی قوم سے خطاب والی ہے، کہ اگر وہ فیصلے سے واقف تھے تو انکو اس خطاب کے لیئے تیار ہونا چایئے تھا


عدالتوں کے پاس لگتا ہے کہ آجکل کرنے کو اور بھی کام ہوتے ہیں، جن میں واقعتاً ایسے مقدمات بھی ہوتے ہونگے جہاں ناحق لوگوں کو واقعی قتل کیا گیا۔ بہرحال، ڈاکٹر صاحب کے پاس اگر اتنے ہی پکے شواہدات ہیں، تو وہ عدالت سے خود کیوں نہیں رجوع فرماتے؟


لیکن میرا پھر بھی مشورہ یہی ہوگا کہ ڈاکٹر صاحب اب کم از کم کسی اپنے دوست ڈاکٹر سے ہی سہی، رازدارانہ طور چیک اپ کروا ہی لیں تو بہتر ہے۔ شائد کچھ تسلّی ہو جائے

OK Leave Dr on one side. Nawa-e-Waqat wrote that the verdict was leaked and Nawaz knew at least a day before what is written in the verdict.
Secondly, if you read the twit of Maryam a day before she wrote that nobody including Nawaz in her family are worried and everyone was calm in her family. We know a day or so before the Gaaanjas were extremely anxious and worried. What changed in two/or one day!!

Yesterday the Retired General agreed with Dr that the verdict was leaked. Lets be honest, we know from the comments of all 5 judges in the judgement, none of them really believed the pile of crap offered by gaanjaas and their lawyers.
 

mhafeez

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
پٹواری نے بڑی محنت سے سٹوری بنائی ہے
لیکن پلاٹ والی بات کو لسی سمجھ کر ڈکار گیا
جناب ١٢ کے بجاے ٢١ اپریل کو بھی تو الاٹ
ہو سکتا تھا نا ؟؟
یا فیصلہ سناتے ہی ریٹائر ہو جانا تھا ؟
اور استحقاق تو استحقاق ٹہرا ریٹائرمینٹ
کے بعد بھی قائم رہنا تھا ہے کے نہیں؟


چلو اب میاں ساانپ کو دودھ پلاؤ وہ باجی
مریم کو پلاے گا اور باجی مریم میڈیا سیل
کے کلبلاتے کیڑوں کو

بجائے اسکے کہ جج صاحب کے اٹھائے قانونی پہلوؤں پر اعتراض کریں جج صاحب کو ہی ہدف تنقید بنا دیں ، کس نے چیک کیا ہے کہ ڈی ایچ اے کا وہ پلاٹ جج صہب کو ملا ہے ؟؟ خالی واٹس ایپ پیغامات پر سازشی کہانیاں گھڑنے میں ماہر ہیں ہم سب
 

WatanDost

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
بجائے اسکے کہ جج صاحب کے اٹھائے قانونی پہلوؤں پر اعتراض کریں جج صاحب کو ہی ہدف تنقید بنا دیں ، کس نے چیک کیا ہے کہ ڈی ایچ اے کا وہ پلاٹ جج صہب کو ملا ہے ؟؟ خالی واٹس ایپ پیغامات پر سازشی کہانیاں گھڑنے میں ماہر ہیں ہم سب



جسٹس قیوم کی آڈیو کافی نہیں شریف خاندان کی ذلالت اور ججوں کی ججی ثابت کرنے کو ؟؟؟
 

Sohail Shuja

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
پٹواری نے بڑی محنت سے سٹوری بنائی ہے
لیکن پلاٹ والی بات کو لسی سمجھ کر ڈکار گیا
جناب ١٢ کے بجاے ٢١ اپریل کو بھی تو الاٹ
ہو سکتا تھا نا ؟؟
یا فیصلہ سناتے ہی ریٹائر ہو جانا تھا ؟
اور استحقاق تو استحقاق ٹہرا ریٹائرمینٹ
کے بعد بھی قائم رہنا تھا ہے کے نہیں؟


چلو اب میاں ساانپ کو دودھ پلاؤ وہ باجی
مریم کو پلاے گا اور باجی مریم میڈیا سیل
کے کلبلاتے کیڑوں کو

جواب تو میں نے دے دیا تھا، اب اگر آپکو سمجھ نہیں آیا تو آپکو بھی اسی ڈاکٹر کا نمبر بھیج دیتا ہوں جنکا نمبر شاہد مسعود صاحب کو بھیجا۔ فکر نہ کریں، پی ٹی آئی کے بہت ہی کم تنخواہ پر کام کرنے والے میڈیا سیل والوں کے ساتھ رعایت کر دیتے ہیں
 

Sohail Shuja

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
OK Leave Dr on one side. Nawa-e-Waqat wrote that the verdict was leaked and Nawaz knew at least a day before what is written in the verdict.
Secondly, if you read the twit of Maryam a day before she wrote that nobody including Nawaz in her family are worried and everyone was calm in her family. We know a day or so before the Gaaanjas were extremely anxious and worried. What changed in two/or one day!!

Yesterday the Retired General agreed with Dr that the verdict was leaked. Lets be honest, we know from the comments of all 5 judges in the judgement, none of them really believed the pile of crap offered by gaanjaas and their lawyers.

The question is to analyze the locus standi of Dr.Shahid Masood, while he is claiming that the decision was not only leaked but changed as well. If he claims that, then it means he read the decision himself before getting public. Now how can you reconcile that?
 

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