ٹمبکٹوکی تاریخی زیارت گاہ پر حملہ

[insaan]

ٹمبکٹوکی تاریخی زیارت گاہ پر حملہ

[HI]

افریقی ملک مالی کے تاریخی شہر ٹمبکٹو کی معروف مسجد پر عسکریت پسندوں نے حملہ کیا ہے۔​

[/HI]

علاقے کے لوگوں نے بی بی سی کو بتایا کہ نامعلوم مسلح افراد نے پندرہویں صدی کی تعمیر شدہ سدی یحییٰ کی تاریخی مسجد کا دروازہ توڑ دیا۔اس سال کے شروع میں مبینہ طور پر القاعدہ سے منسلک انصار داعین گروہ نے شہر پر قبضہ کر لیا تھا۔اس گروہ نے اس سے قبل بھی شہر کی کئی زیارت گاہوں تباہ کیا ہے اور اس سلسلے میں ان کا یہ کہنا ہے کہ یہ اسلام کے منافی ہیں۔انصار داعین کے ترجمان سانڈا آولڈ بمانا نے بی بی سی کو بتایا کہ ہماری تحریک نے اس سلسلے میں اپنے تقریباً نوے فیصد اہداف پورے کر لیے ہیں اور ایسی تمام زیارت گاہوں کو برباد کردیا ہے جو شریعت کے خلاف ہیں۔انھوں نے کہا کہ شریعت زمین سے پندرہ سنٹی میٹر یا چھ انچ سے زیادہ ابھری ہوئی قبروں کی اجازت نہیں دیتی ہے۔ثقافتی وراثت کے امریکی ادارے یونسکو کے مطابق سدی یحییٰ کی مسجد کا ٹمبکٹو کی تین اہم مساجد میں شمار ہوتا ہے۔جس دروازے کو توڑا گیا ہے وہ بند پڑا ہوا تھا کیونکہ وہ صوفی بزگ سدی یحییٰ کے مزار کا دروازہ تھا۔خبر رساں ایجنسی اے ایف پی کے مطابق کچھ عینی شاہدین نے تباہی دیکھ کر آہ و زاری
شروع کر دی تھی۔

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/world/2012/07/120702_mosque_mali_damage_mb.shtml​

 

[QaiserMirza]

وہ تمام جگہیں اور چیزیں جو شرک کی طرف لے جائیں انہیں مسمار کردینا بہتر ہوتا ہی
ٹمبکٹو میں مسلمان بزرگوں کی قبروں کو پوجا جاتا تھا

 

[ikki781]

Mr.qaiser, dont talk without having even a little proof. To ascribe shirk to any muslim just if he goes to mazaar and asks for waseela is the way KHAARJIES used to do. and are still doing. are u blind that the presence of these mazaars in remote places like this, and many more like yemen, syria, egypt, algieria, morocco, tunis, afghanistan, iraq, central asia, turkey all over is promoting shirk? these all were developed long ago and recently by the great Otoman empire. were they all Mushrik? if you say yes than my dear you are in extreme minority. By the your head abdul wahaab had already declared that the Ummah had been kaafir for 600 years. this is nothing new. the presence of these places all over the muslim world is the proof itself that it had been and still a prefered way. By the way there has not been any brailevi person there and people might not know this name even. still if they follow these traditions it means its the accepted way in muslim Ummah. one thing i will explain later, if u answer this.

 

[mrk123]

People who probably have never been to Timbuktu are making sweeping statements about what happened at the graves in Tmbuktu.
This act is reflective of a defeatist mindset of the perpetrators of these acts who have nothing constructive to do and their supporters on internet forums.

 

[hammad78]

Qabron ko zameen ke brabar hona chaheye. Bilkul sahee kaam kia hai in mujahideen nay. Kash yeh Pakistan main bhi yeh kaam shroo kar dain, hamaray haan to har gali muhallay mein shirk ke adday mojood hain jin ka khatma foran zaroori hai

 

[hammad78]

Bilkul is tarah Lahore walay babay ko jis ko Daata Gunj Baksh kaha jata hay , us ko bhi Jahil log is tarah pooj rahay hotay hain. Jo apni qabar se bahir nahin aa sakta woh in ki faryaad sunay ga aur madad karay ga.

وہ تمام جگہیں اور چیزیں جو شرک کی طرف لے جائیں انہیں مسمار کردینا بہتر ہوتا ہی
ٹمبکٹو میں مسلمان بزرگوں کی قبروں کو پوجا جاتا تھا

 

[QaiserMirza]

BAMAKO, MALI—Islamist rebels said Sunday they will continue to destroy historic sites in Mali’s northern city of Timbuktu before they implement strict Shariah law, as Mali’s government compared the destruction to “war crimes” and said they would seek international justice.

Ansar Dine spokesman Sanda Abu Mohamed said Sunday that Islamists will continue the destruction they started Saturday. “We’re going to destroy everything before we apply Shariah in this city,” he said.

Resident Moussa Maiga said the Islamists have expressed disapproval of what they think is worship of the tombs of the Muslim saints. “They say that the population loves the saints like God,” he said.

But resident Bouya Ould Sidi Mohamed said the historic city has long had Muslim roots.

“Timbuktu was an Islamic city since the 12th century, and we know what the religion says about the saints’ tombs,” he said. “Contrary to what the Islamists or the Wahabis of Ansar Dine say, here in Timbuktu, the people don’t love the saints like God, but just seek the saints’ blessings because they are our spiritual guides.”

Mali’s government condemned the destruction, which they say is akin to “war crimes.”

“The council of ministers has just approved, in principle, the referral to the International Criminal Court and a working group is working to this end,” the government said in a statement.

The UN cultural agency on Saturday called for an immediate halt to the destruction of three sacred Muslim tombs. Irina Bokova, who heads the UN Educational,
Scientific and Cultural Organization, cited in a statement Saturday reports the centuries-old mausoleums of Sidi Mahmoud, Sidi, Moctar and Alpha Moya had been destroyed.

On Thursday, UNESCO’s World Heritage Committee, meeting in St. Petersburg, Russia, placed the mausoleums of Muslim saints on its list of sites in danger at the request of Mali’s government.

Islamist fighters from the Ansar Dine group have declared that they now control the northern half of Mali after driving out an ethnic Tuareg separatist group. The rebel groups took advantage of a power vacuum created by a March coup in the capital to seize ground in the north.

The Islamists’ growing reach is more worrying news for the landlocked West African nation.

UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon called the attacks on the mausoleums “totally unjustified” and urged all sides to preserve Mali’s cultural heritage, according to a statement from his spokesperson.​

 

[mrk123]

Yeah, going against the dead and their burial places is a very brave act. Why not send the "brave mujahideen" to raze the symbols of oppression, excesses and corruption in Pakistan that is causing misery to millions of people and making them suffer every minute of their life - the PM house, or the Presidency or the Parliament or the governor houses or the chief minister houses? In fact this defeatist mindset is reflective here too where its being wished that someone, from somewhere would come and do it for the people who dream of this destruction because they can't build a thing or do anything to lessen the day to day suffering or misery of the people!

I can see how the biggest threat to the faith, nationalism, patriotism is from the dead! I am sure that razing these graves will bring the happiness and contentment that people are craving for - it will eradicate poverty, feed the hungry, cure the sick - wipe out the injustices, oppression from the society and will rid the country of corruption - it will bring harmony among dozens of sects who are ready to slaughter each other in the name of religion and make people from different ethnic groups and tribes to love each other .....

Let the rivers of milk and honey flow and let the blooming gardens with unending rainbows all over our country - lets get up and raze the burial places of the dead!

by the way - the people asking for this will not leave their cushy chairs rather they would prefer to outsource this task to some imported 'mujahideen'

Qabron ko zameen ke brabar hona chaheye. Bilkul sahee kaam kia hai in mujahideen nay. Kash yeh Pakistan main bhi yeh kaam shroo kar dain, hamaray haan to har gali muhallay mein shirk ke adday mojood hain jin ka khatma foran zaroori hai

 

[mrk123]

there is always two sides of a story - there is a gentleman stating the two sides of the story with one being enlarge a little more than the other....
you guess which side of the argument is this gentleman on ;-) lets at least give credit for trying to look objective.....

its a clear case of he said she said......

one side has no patience or tolerance of any sect and they will come up with even a little excuse to raze these even if the other side deny the objectors' claims....

 

[Cheeko]

Astonishing to observe some opinions. These intellectuals who belong from various background sects like salafism etc have given a verdict without a debate. Construction of tombs is not an incorrect practice and it has its roots in Islam. Is there no room for debate and are we going to promote fascism ?

Construction of tombs is a decision which does not interferes in any body's private affairs.They are not build on your houses or graves but they are built on our houses and graves. This is our private matter and as long as we do not harm anybody we are free to practise our religion. Is this not an agreed principle. Unless someone is jealous of my religious teachings and followings I do not find any reason for criticism apart from thrusting your view point on me. What else is fascism ?


Proofs of building Shrines/Tombs of Prophets



It is a Sunnah to build tombs/shrines around the graves of Prophets (alaih salam) ,Salafs (RA) and Awliya al-Ikraam (rah). Although for public graveyards and ordinary muslims it is not allowed.



The First tomb in islam

Grave of Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) is "INSIDE" room of the house of Ayesha (ra)

The Second tomb in islam

Grave of Sayyidna Abu Bakr (RA) is in a room of the house of Ayesha (ra) buried next to Prophet (Peace be upon him)

The Third tomb in islam

Grave of Sayyidna Umar Ibnul Khattab (ra) is in a room of the house of Ayesha (ra) buried next to Prophet (Peace be upon him) and Abu Bakr (ra)

So it was a practice of Sahaba to bury Prophet (As) and Caliphs not openly but inside a Room or in other words a "CONSTRUCTED SHRINE"


Answering misquotation of Hadith and Objections



Hadith states Sahih Muslim Volume 2, Book 23, Number 414
Narrated 'Urwa:

Aisha said, "The Prophet in his fatal illness said, 'Allah cursed the Jews and the Christians because they took the graves of their Prophets as places for praying."

' Aisha added, " Had it not been for that the grave of the Prophet (p.b.u.h) would have been made prominent but I am afraid it might be taken (as a) place for praying.


The above hadith is quoted for jews and christians not for muslims who took their Prophets as God, Son/daughter of God. Lets see how the classical scholars view it.



Imam Ibn Hajar al - Haytami(in his Zawajir) quotes the hadith from Ahmad, Bukhari and Muslim that the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said: "May Allah curse the Jews and Christians; they have taken the tombs of their prophets as places of worship."


He said, "The reason for considering it an enormity is obvious

He explains, however, that, “Taking a grave as a place of worship means to pray on the grave or towards it. The prohibition, moreover, applies exclusively to the grave of someone venerated... under the two conditions:

A) that the grave is of someone who is honored and venerated;

B) and that the prayer is performed towards or on the grave with the intention of gaining the blessing of it, or out of reverence for it. (from: al-Zawajir, Reliance w21)

And this is only if one prays so close to it that if praying the prayer of those attentive (looking down), the grave would be within one's sight.
[end quote ]


Hence praying salat towards the grave or doing sajda infront of it as christians/jews used to do it is haram.No one is history of Islam took this hadith as proof of prohibiting building of tombs/shrines over Pious muslims graves.





Proof 1 of building of tombs around a grave


Quran states:

Thus did We make their case known to the people, that they might know that the promise of Allah is true, and that there can be no doubt about the Hour of Judgment. Behold, they dispute among themselves as to their affair. (Some) said, "Construct a building over them": Their Lord knows best about them: those who prevailed over their affair said,"Let us surely build a place of worship over them." (Quran 18:21)




Authentic classical Tafsir for this verse




Tafsir Number 1

Qadhi Thana Ullah Panipatti (Rahimuhullah) writes in his great Tafsir al Mazhari: After the death of Ashaab al Kahf a dispute occurred between Muslims and non-muslims, The Muslims said that they will make a Masjid over them because they were of our faith whereas the disbelievers said they will build other buildings on it where people will live….This Ayah is proving that Mosques could be made near graves of Awliya in order to say salaat in them, Tabarruk is also attained through the tombs of Awliya [Tafsir al Mazhari Volume No.7, Page No. 123-124]




Tafsir Number 2


Tafsir by Imam Bayzawi (rah) says: "From this it is understood that to erect a Mausoleum for the special people, i.e. Pious Saints and Ulema, is permissible".




Tafsir Number 3


Tafsir by Imam Fakhrud'deen Razi (rah) writes:

أن بعضهم قال: الأولى أن يسد باب الكهف لئلا يدخل عليهم أحد ولا يقف على أحوالهم إنسان. وقال آخرون: بل الأولى أن يبني على باب الكهف مسجد وهذا القول يدل على أن أولئك الأقوام كانوا عارفين بالله معترفين بالعبادة والصلاة

Translation: Some people said that the door of the cave should be closed so that nobody can enter it and the Ahwaal (of Ashab e Kahf) are kept hidden. Some people said that It is better to build a mosque at the door, this saying proves that these people were “ARIFEEN OF ALLAH WHO BELIEVED IN WORSHIPPING AND PRAYER”[Tafsir al Kabeer, Volume No. 5, Page No. 475]



Imam al-Razi also said:

ثم قال تعالى: {قَالَ ٱلَّذِينَ غَلَبُوا۴ عَلَىٰۤ أَمْرِهِمْ** قيل المراد به الملك المسلم، وقيل: أولياء أصحاب الكهف، وقيل: رؤساء البلد: {لَنَتَّخِذَنَّ عَلَيْهِم مَّسْجِدًا** نعبد الله فيه ونستبقي آثار أصحاب الكهف بسبب ذلك المسجد

Translation: And when Allah said {Those who prevailed over their affair** this refers to the “MUSLIM RULER” or the Awliya of Ashaab al Kahf (i.e. their momineen friends) or the leaders of town. {We will surely build a Mosque over them** so that we can “WORSHIP ALLAH” in it and due to it we will “PRESERVE THE RELICS OF ASHAAB AL KAHF”[Tafsir al-Kabeer, 5/475]





Tafsir Number 4

In "Tafseer Roohul Bayaan", Vol. 3, according to the verse: "To build over the graves of the Ulema, Awliya and the Saliheen is a permissible act with this condition that the motive is that the greatness of these pious people must be made apparent so that the people don't think that it is an ordinary grave."





Tafsir Number 5


Imam Hakim (Rehmatullah Alaih) said in his Tafsir

قال الذين غلبوا على أمرهم** وهم المؤمنون, وكانوا غالبين في ذلك الوقت

Translation: {Those who prevailed over their affair** refers to the “MOMINEEN” and they prevailed over this matter in that time [Tafsir al Wahidi under 18:21]





Tafsir Number 6


Imam Jalal ud-din Suyuti (Rehmatullah Alaih) and Al Muhalli (Rehmatullah Alaih) explain in Tafsir al Jalalyn:

يَتَنَـٰزَعُونَ** أي المؤمنون والكفار {بَيْنَهُمْ أَمْرَهُمْۖ** أمر الفتية في البناء حولهم {فَقَالُوۤا۴** أي الكفار {ٱبْنُوا۴ عَلَيْهِم** أي حولهم {بُنْيَـٰنًاۖ** يسترهم {رَّبُّهُمْ أَعْلَمُ بِهِمْۚ قَالَ ٱلَّذِينَ غَلَبُوا۴ عَلَىٰۤ أَمْرِهِمْ** أمر الفتية وهم المؤمنون {لَنَتَّخِذَنَّ عَلَيْهِم** حولهم {مَّسْجِدًا** يصلى فيه، وفعل ذلك على باب الكهف.

Translation: They were disputing, that is, the believers and the disbelievers, among themselves their affair, the affair of the youths, with regard to building something around them [as a monument]; so they, the disbelievers, said, ‘Build over them, that is, around them, a building, to cover them up; their Lord knows them best.’ Those who prevailed regarding their affair, the affair of the youths, “NAMELY THE BELIEVERS"


We will verily set up over them, around them, a place of worship’, for prayers to be performed therein. And this indeed took place at the entrance of the cave.[Tafsir al Jalalyn, Volume No.1, Page No. 389]




Tafsir Number 7


Imam Nasafi (Rehmatullah Alaih) writes in his Tafsir al Nasafi:

قَالَ ٱلَّذِينَ غَلَبُوا۴ عَلَىٰۤ أَمْرِهِمْ** من المسلمين وملكهم
وكانوا أولى بهم وبالبناء عليهم {لَنَتَّخِذَنَّ عَلَيْهِم** على باب الكهف {مَّسْجِدًا** يصلي فيه المسلمون ويتبركون

Translation: {Those who prevailed over their affair** these are the “MUSLIMS AND THE RULERS” who said to build over them i.e. on the door of cave a Masjid so that “MUSLIMS CAN PRAY IN IT AND SEEK TABARRUK” [Tafsir al Nasafi, Volume No.3, Page No. 18]





Tafsir Number 8


Imam Abu Hayyan al Andalusi (Rehmatullah Alaih) said:


وروي أن التي دعت إلى البنيان كانت كافرة أرادت بناء بيعة أو مصنع لكفرهم فمانعهم المؤمنون وبنوا عليهم مسجداً


Translation: The person who told to make a building over them was a Kafir woman, she told to make a Church over them where deeds of Kufr can take place, however the momineen stopped her and made a Masjid over there instead [Tafsir Bahr al Muheet, Volume No. 7, Page No. 158]




Tafsir Number 9


Allama Ibn Jawzi (Rehmatullah Alaih) who is considered the most strict scholar and revered highly by Salafi Muslims, he states in his Tafsir under 18:21


قال ابن قتيبة: يعني المُطاعين والرؤساء، قال المفسرون: وهم الملك وأصحابه المؤمنون اتخذوا عليهم مسجداً

Translation: Ibn Qutayba (Rehmatullah Alaih) said that the Mufasireen said: People who made Masjid were the (Muslim) King and his Momineen companions [Tafsir Zaad ul Maseer, Volume No. 5, Page No.124]






Tafsir Number 10



Imam Shahab ud-din Khafaji (Rehmatullah Alaih) wrote:

مسجد ايدل على جوازا لبناء على قبور الصلحاء ونحوهم كما اشار الي فى الكشاف وجواز الصلوة فى ذلك البناء

Translation: (Making mosque on cave) ”IS PROOF OF MAKING MOSQUES OVER THE GRAVES OF SALIHEEN” just like It is mentioned in Tafsir al Kashaaf and It is “PERMITTED” to pray inside this construction [Imam Khafaji in Inayatul Qadhi, Volume No. 6, Page No. 87, Published by Dar us Sadir, Beirut, Lebanon]





Tafsir Number 11


Mullah Ali Qari (Rehmatullah Alaih) writes:

أما من اتخذ مسجدا في جوار صالح أو صلى في مقبرة وقصد الإستظهار بروحه أو وصول أثر ما من أثر عبادته إليه لا للتعظيم له والتوجه نحوه فلا حرج عليه ألا ترى أن مرقد إسماعيل عليه السلام في المسجد الحرام عند الحطيم ثم أن ذلك المسجد أفضل مكان يتحرى المصلى لصلاته والنهي عن الصلاة في المقابر مختص بالقبور المنبوشة لما فيها من النجاسة كذا ذكره الطيبي وذكر غيره أن صورة قبر إسماعيل عليه السلام في الحجر تحت الميزاب وإن في الحطيم بين الحجر الأسود وزمزم قبر سبعين نبيا


Translation: Anyone who builds a mosque near the grave of an upright person or prays in the tomb (Maqbara) or intends to ask for help through the Ruh of that upright person or intends to seek barakah from his left overs, If he does all that without the intention of giving him Tazeem or doing tawajuh towards him ( in prayer) “Then there is nothing wrong in that, don't you see that Grave of Hadrat Ismail(A.S) is inside the Masjid ul Harram near the hateem and to Pray there is Superior than anything else ” however to pray near the graves is only forbidden when the soil becomes dirty because of Najasat of deceased… In the Hateem near Hajr al Aswad and Mizaab there are “Graves of 70 Prophets” [Mirqat, Sharh al Mishqaat, Volume No. 2, Page No. 202]





Mullah Ali Qari (Rehmatullah Alaih) also said:

وقد أباح السلف البناء على قبر المشايخ والعلماء المشهورين ليزورهم الناس ويستريحوا بالجلوس فيه


Translation: The early Muslims (Salaf) have considered it Mubah (i.e. allowed) to build over the graves of famous Mashaikh and Ulama so that people can visit them and sit there (easily) [Mirqaat Sharh al Misshqaat, Volume No. 4, Page No. 69]


So Indeed the Prophets, Mashaikh and Saliheen do not come under the prohibition because the grave of Prophet (Peace be upon him), Abu Bakr (Radhi’Allah anho), Umar (Radhi’Allah anho) and many other Prophets and Saliheen have remained “BUILT OVER”




Tafsir Number 12


Ibn khatir in his tafsir writes.


م { قَالَ ٱلَّذِينَ غَلَبُواْ عَلَىٰ أَمْرِهِمْ لَنَتَّخِذَنَّ عَلَيْهِمْ مَّسْجِدًا ** حكى ابن جرير في القائلين ذلك قولين: [أحدهما] أنهم المسلمون منهم.

Translation: "When the people of the cave went into the cave, some people close to the entrance of the cave said, 'Build a mosque so we can worship Allah.' The people who said this were Muslims" [Tafsir Tabari, Tafsir Ibn Kathir, Sura al-Kahf, verse 21]






Tafsir Number 13

The famous commentator of Sahih Bukhari and leading scholar in sight of Sunnis and Salafis/wahabisies.



Imam Ibn Hajr al Asqalani (rah) writes in his magnificent Fath ul Bari

In view of the fact that the Jews and Christians were taking the graves of their Prophets as their qibla for the purpose of respect, and were paying attention towards them at the time of their prayers, their graves took the position of idols. For this reason the Muslims have been forbidden from this action. However, if someone constructs a mosque near the grave of a pious person for the prupose of seeking tabarruk and not for prostration or paying attention towards them, he will never be included in this prohibition.( Ibn Hajr al-‘Asqalani, Fath al-bari, vol. 3, p. 208)





Proof 2 of building of tombs around a grave



Hadrat Umar (Ra) wish to get buried beside Tomb of Prophet(saw) in a Room


Al-Bukhari narrates in his Sahih, Book of Jana'iz:

When `Umar was stabbed he sent his son `Abd Allah with a message to `A'isha to "Ask her if I can be buried with my two companions," that is, in her room, next to the Prophet and Abu Bakr. `A'isha replied: "I wanted the spot for myself, but I shall put him [`Umar] before me today." It had been her habit that if a man from among the Companions asked her that spot she would always refuse. She herself gave the following instructions before her death: "Bury me with my lady-friends (the wives of the Prophet in al-Baqi`) [but do not bury me with the Prophet in the house, for I dislike to be held in reverence (inni akrahu an uzakka)." Ibn `Umar came back with the news, whereupon `Umar said: "NOTHING IN THE WORLD WAS MORE IMPORTANT TO ME THAN THAT RESTING-PLACE." [Narrated by al-Bukhari in his Sahih.]

Why did Hadrat Umar (ra) wanted to get buried in a room and not outside , Why is Hadrat Abu Baker (Ra) buried in a Room , A tomb is also a room built around the grave ,and it proves its a sunnah


The Tomb of Aqah Karim (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) is the greatest proof of this practice , Other tombs of Sahabas (Ra) were demolished by Al saud otherwise they too were present throughout history of islam.






Proof 3


Hadiths proving tombs of 70 Prophets (as) Tomb



5769- وعن ابن عمر أن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم قال‏:‏
‏"‏في مسجد الخيف قبر سبعون نبياً‏"‏‏.‏
رواه البزار ورجاله ثقات‏.‏

Narrated by Ibn Umar (RA) from Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) who said: In (fi) the Mosque of al-Khayf there is Qabr of 70 Prophets (together)

Imam al Haythami said that it is narrated by Al-Bazzar and all its narrators are trustworthy (i.e. Hadith is absolutely sahih)





Proof 4

Jesus Will Be Burried Next to our Prophet's (may God bless him and grant him peace) Tomb


Jesus, son of Mary, will come down to the world… He will marry, . . . live for 45 years and then die. He will be buried with me [Mohammed] in my grave. Then I and Jesus, son of Mary, will stand up in one grave between Abu Bakr and `Umar. (Mishkat-ul-Masabih, 40:4)

Jesus will marry and have a child after he returns. After he dies, the Muslims will perform his funeral prayer and bury him at the Rauza-i-Aqdas (Ibn Hajar al-Haythami, Al-Qawl al-Mukhtasar fi `Alamat al-Mahdi al-Muntazar, 65)


This hadith itself proves that Hadrat Esa (aleh islam) will be buried in Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) Tomb along with him





Imam Shafi(Rehmatuallah aliye) visiting Tomb of Imam abu Hanifa (Rah)


Proof No:5

He describes his own experience about the blessings of the tomb of Imam Abū Hanīfah: I derive blessing from the person of Imam Abū Hanīfah and I visit his grave everyday. When I face a problem, I offer two optional cycles of prayer and visit his grave and (while standing) I pray to Allah to solve my problem. And I have not even left the place that my problem is solved.

Reference

►Khatīb Baghdādī has related the incident with a sound chain of transmission in his Tārīkh Baghdād (1:123)

►Ibn Hajar Haythamī, al-Khayrāt-ul-hisān fī manāqib-il-imām al-a‘zam Abū Hanīfah (p.94)

► Muhammad Zāhid Kawtharī, Maqālāt (p.381)

►Ibn ‘Ābidīn Shāmī in Radd-ul-muhtār ‘alā Durr-il-mukhtār (1:41).






Sheikh ul-Islam al-Hafiz al-Imam Nawawi (Rehmatuallah aliye)

Proof No:6


اعلم أنه ينبغي لكل من حجّ أن يتوجه إلى زيارة رسول اللّه صلى اللّه عليه وسلم، سواء كان ذلك طريقه أو لم يكن، فإن زيارته صلى اللّه عليه وسلم من أهمّ القربات وأربح المساعي وأفضل الطلبات، فإذا توجَّه للزيارة أكثرَ من الصلاة عليه صلى اللّه عليه وسلم في طريقه، فإذا وقعَ بصرُه على أشجار المدينة وحَرمِها وما يَعرفُ بها زاد من الصلاة والتسليم عليه صلى اللّه عليه وسلم، وسألَ اللّه تعالى أن ينفعَه بزيارته صلى اللّه عليه وسلم، وأن يُسعدَه بها في الدارين، وليقلْ‏:‏ اللَّهُمَّ افْتَحْ عَليَّ أبْوَابَ رَحْمَتِكَ وَارْزُقْنِي في زِيارَةِ قَبْرِ نَبِيِّكَ صلى اللّه عليه وسلم ما رزقْتَهُ أوْلِياءَكَ وأهْلَ طَاعَتِكَ واغْفِرْ لي وارْحمنِي يا خَيْرَ مَسْؤُول


Section: Chapter regarding Visit to the Tomb of the Messenger of Allah (Salallaho alaihi wasalam), and the Dhikr made there"

It should be known that “EVERYONE” who performs the hajj should set out to visit the Messenger of Allah (Salallaho alaihi wasalam), “WHETHER IT IS ON ONE’S WAY OR NOT” because visiting him (Salallaho alaihi wasalam) is one of the most important acts of worship, the most rewarded of efforts, and best of goals. When one sets out to perform the visit, one should do much of the blessings and peace upon him (salallaho alaihi wasalam) on the way. And when one’s eye falls on the trees of Medina, and its sanctum and landmarks, one should increase sending the blessings and peace upon the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace), asking Allah Most High to benefit one by one’s “VISIT TO HIM” (Allah bless him and give him peace)...and grant one felicity in this world and the next through it. One should say,"O Allah, open for me the doors of Your mercy, and bestow upon me, through the visit to the Grave of Your prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace), that which You have bestowed upon Your friends, those who obey You. Forgive me and show me mercy, O Best of Those Asked" (Imam Nawawi in Kitab ul Adhkaar, Page No. 178)






Kharija ibn Zayd said: I can see myself when we were young men [boys] in the time of Uthman [ibn `Affan](ra)The strongest one of us in high jump was he who could jump over the grave of `Uthman ibn Maz`un and clear it


► cited by al-Bukhari in his Sahih chapter-title, "[Placing] a Stalk on Top of the Grave."

► Ibn Hajar said in Fath al-Bari (3:256=1959 ed. 3:223 cf. Taghliq al-Ta`liq):

► "Al-Bukhari narrated it with its chain in al-Tarikh al-Saghir (1:42

It contains a proof for the licitness of raising high the grave and elevating it above the surface of the earth,

In second hadith it says high jump by sahabas (Ra) which is only possible if grave is high

Now according to above hadith Amir al-San`ani in Subul al-Salam said: "The Jumhur - vast majority - hold that the prohibition of building up and plastering graves is one of preference (tanzih) [i.e. not strictness (tahrim)] and that preference is for Qaboor of Laymen as Grave of Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) himself is elevated as stated in Sahih bukhari above ,



“BUILDING A MOUND OVER THE GRAVE...”

Under it he brings the hadith

Abu Hanifa informed us from Hammad that Ibrahim said: Someone informed me that they had seen the grave of Prophet (Peace be upon him), the grave of Abu Bakr (ra), and the grave of Umar (ra) with “mounds on top of them protruding prominently from the gournd” and on them pieces of white clay.

Imam Muhammad said: We (Ahnaaf) adhere to this, the grave is marked with a prominent mound, but it is not to be made in the form of a square and that is the “Verdict of Abu Hanifa” [Kitab ul Athaar, Page No. 145, Published by Turath Publishing]





The Wahabi sect claims that all graves should be flattened or destroyed, this is directly in opposition to Sunnah. The Hadith which they misuse refers to flattening the graves of Mushrikeen not momineen because the graves of Prophet, Abu Bakr, Umar and other sahaba is proven to be built in "MOUNDED SHAPE"



Shafi classical point of view for public graves


The great Shafi scholar and Sufi, Imam Abdul Wahab al-Sharani (rah) writes:
My teacher Ali (rah) and brother Afzal ud din (rah) used to forbid that domes should be build over graves of ordinary people and also to put the deceased in “COFFINS” and also to put sheets over their graves. They used to say that only Prophets and great awliya are deserving for domes and sheets, whereas we should be buried in the feet of people and also in their ways [Al-Anwar al Qudsiya, Page No. 593]



Imam Ibn Hibban (rah) the great Muhadith from Islaaf as Saliheen (rah) [d. 354 AH] said regarding visitation to tomb of Imam Ali Raza bin Musa (ra):


قد زرته مراراً کثيرة، وما حلّت بي شدّة في وقت مقامي بطوس، وزرت قبر علي بن موسي الرضا صلوات اﷲ علي جده وعليه، ودعوت اﷲ تعالي إزالتها عنّي إلا استجيب لي، وزالت عنّي تلک الشدّة وهذا شئ جرّبته مراراً فوجدته کذلک، أماتنا اﷲ علي محبة المصطفي وأهل بيته صلي اﷲ وسلم عليه وعليهم أجمعين.

I have done ziyarah of his tomb many times, during my stay at Tus, whenever I got into any difficulty I went to the grave of Imam Musa raza (ra) and asked Allah for the fulfillment of my need, every time I was answered and my difficulty was removed. This is such a reality that I found it to be true nomatter how many times I did it May Allah grant us death in the true love for Prophet (Peace be upon him) and his blessed Ahlul Bayt. [Ibn Abi Hatim Razi, Kitab al Thiqat, Volume No. 8, Page No. 457, Number: 14411]





Answering Objection : Prostrating towards a grave(doing sajda)


This is clearly haram even if sajda e tazeemi , Sunni muslims donot believe in doing Sajda towards a grave as Shariah prohibits it ,

it has already in miskat ul mabasih page 161 Vol 1 hadith 694


و عن عطا ء بن ىسار قال قال رسؤل الله صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلمااللهما كا تجعل قبرى وثنا يعبد اشتد غضب الله علئ قوم اتخز وا قبور انبيا حى ام مسا جد رواحما لق مرسلق

Hadrat Ata Bin Siyar narrated that Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) said that donot make my grave an idol after I die may Allah curse this nation who made graves of their Prophets (as) into prostration places (worship places)

Here above strictness forbidding prostration is narrated in the hadith , and by making places of worshipping it means making it prostration place, this has already been mentioned by imam ibn e hajar (Rah) in same thread

so any one who does Sajda to is haram, any muslims who does it is not follow ahle sunnah wal jammat



On the issue of kissing a Shrine/grave Or putting head on grave.


PROOF 1

It is also narrated that Mu`adh ibn Jabal and Bilal came to the grave of the Prophet and sat weeping, and the latter rubbed his face against it.

► Ibn Majah 2:1320,

►Ahmad,

►al-Tabarani,

►al-Subki, and Ibn `Asakir



PROOF 2

Dawud ibn Salih said: "[The governor of Madina] Marwan [ibn al-Hakam] one day saw a man placing his face on top of the grave of the Prophet. He said: "Do you know what you are doing?" When he came near him, he realized it was Abu Ayyub al-Ansari. The latter said: "Yes; I came to the Prophet, not to a stone.,

► Ibn Hibban in his Sahih,

►Ahmad (5:422),

►Al-Tabarani in his Mu`jam al-Kabir (4:189) and his Awsat according to Haythami in al-Zawa'id (5:245 and 5:441 [URL=http://www.siasat.pk/forum/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=58]#58 45[/URL] Book of Hajj, "Section on the honoring of the dwellers of Madina, chapter on placing one's face against the grave of our Master the Prophet " and #9252 Book of Khilafa, "Chapter on the leadership of those unworthy of it"),

►al-Hakim in his Mustadrak (4:515);

► both the latter and al-Dhahabi said it was sahih.

► It is also cited by al-Subki in Shifa' al-siqam (p. 126)

►and Ibn Taymiyya in al-Muntaqa (2:261f.)



Prophet's (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) Grave

Imam al-Dhahabi said: "Ahmad ibn Hanbal was asked about touching the Prophet's grave and kissing it and he saw nothing wrong with it. His son 'Abd Allah related this from him. If it is asked: "Why did the Companions not do this?" ]We reply: "Because they saw him with their very eyes when he was alive, enjoyed his presence directly, kissed his very hand, nearly fought each other over the remnants of his ablution water, shared his purified hair on the day of the greater Pilgrimage, and even if he spat it would virtually not fall except in someone's hand so that he could pass it over his face. Since we have not had the tremendous fortune of sharing in this, we throw ourselves on his grave as a mark of commitment, reverence, and acceptance, even to kiss it. Do you not see what Thabit al-Bunani did when he kissed the hand of Anas ibn Malik and placed it on his face saying: "This is the hand that touched the hand of the Messenger of Allah "? Muslims are not moved to these matters except by their excessive love for the Prophet , as they are ordered to love Allah and the Prophet more than their own lives, their children, all human beings, their property, and Paradise and its maidens. There are even some believers that love Abu Bakr and 'Umar more than themselves.
[Al-Dhahabi, Mu'jam al-Shuyukh (1:73 #58 ).]


"'Abd Allah ibn Ahmad said: "I saw my father take a hair that belonged to the Prophet , put it on his mouth, and kiss it. I believe I saw him put it on his eyes. He also dipped it in water and drank the water to obtain cure. I saw him take the Prophet's bowl (qas'a), wash it in water, and drink from it. I saw him drink Zamzam water in order to seek cure with it, and he wiped his hands and face with it." I say: Where is the quibbling critic of Imam Ahamad now?

It is also authentically established that 'Abd Allah asked is father about those who touch the pommel of the Prophet's e pulpit and touch the wall of the Prophet's e room, and he said: "I do not see any harm in it." May Allah protect us and you from the opinion of the Khawarij and from innovations!

[ Al-Dhahabi, Siyar A'lam al-Nubala' (9:457). Ch. on Imam Ah.mad, section entitled Min adabih]



Answering Objection To put pictures near grave




Narrated Aisha

Um Salama told Allah's Apostle about a church which she had seen in Ethiopia and which was called Mariya.She told him about the pictures which she had seen in it. Allah's Apostle said, "If any righteous pious man dies amongst them, they would build a place of worship at his grave and make these pictures in it; they are theworst creatures in the sight of Allah."

[sahih bukhari volume 1, number 426]

First thing to be noted is ahle sunnah wal jammat considers putting pictures at graves as haram and No muslim at any part of world does it, Worshipping (means doing sajda) according to hadith of Miskat and even Imam Ibn e Hajar (Rah) , there is no a single imam who took worshpiing as building shrines except some deviated people, As QURAN ITSELF SAYS THEY BUILD A PLACE OF WORSHIP AND EVEN MASJID R NABWI (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) is a Place of Worship ,

Making pictures is haram and has no justification

Secondly this hadith is stated for Christians and non muslims, And some people blindly quote such hadiths and verses for muslims



Answering Objection Hadith of Visiting only 3 mosques is allowed


Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "Do not set out on a journey except for three mosques, i.e. Al-Masjid-Al-Haram, the Mosque of Allah's Apostle, and the Mosque of Al-Aqsa (Mosque of Jerusalem)." [Sahih bukhari volume 2,number 281]

Some people take this hadith literally to claim that going to any mosque or Shrine is Haram , According to this childish logic we see

► All scholars who go to any mosque in the world to give lectures or pay visits (which many do every year including wahabi(ghair muqaled) school scholars) are doing a haram act

Now let us see what Classical imams (rah) said regarding this issue


IMAM NAWAWI ON THIS HADITH quoting Salafs

Imam Nawawi write in Sharah of hadith 'Not to travel (for visiting) except for three mosques (Bukhari)' the true meaning of hadith, He (Nawawi) Write: In this haidth the Three Mosques status and thier high status as compaired to other mosques in the world is mentioned, because these are mosques of the Prophets (may Peace Be Upon Him) and this is why offering salat in them has greater blessing. (he writes more that many ulemas have different viewpoint regarding going to Graves and going to these three Mosques)

Near our Masters (i.e Shafi'I) right Concept is that those to whom Imam al-Harmain (Abu al-Mali Abdul Malik al-Jiyoni) and other researches of islam have permitted for them its neither Haram not Makruh to visit grave (qaboor) for Ziyarah,

According to them it means that to go for a journey for Sawab having intentions of complete and utmost blessing is only permissible for these three mosques. [Sharah Sahih Muslim, Nawawi, Volume 009, Page No. 106]



Ibn e taymiyah said

He said “It is also mustahabb (recommended) to visit the graves of the people of al-Baqee’ and the martyrs of Uhud, to pray for them and ask for forgiveness for them, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to do this, but this is prescribed for all the Muslim graves.” (Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 17/470)



Also Visiting mosque of Quba apart from 3 mosques


For those who still after views of Imam Nawawi Rah take that hadith literally ,

The hadeeth narrated in al-Saheehayn from Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) who said: “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to come to Quba’ riding and walking.” According to another report: “and he would pray two rak’ahs there.” (narrated by al-Bukhaari and Muslim).

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) also said, “Whoever purifies himself in his house then comes to the mosque of Quba’ and prays there, he will have a reward like that for ‘Umrah.”

►Narrated by Ahmad,

►al-Nasaa’i,

► Ibn Maajah

►and al-Haakim. Al-Haakim classed it as saheeh and al-Dhahabi agreed with him

► Also classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Jaami’, 6154
,
this proves that the hadith of only visiting three moques if taken literally is illogical , As Sahabas (Ra) used to Visit janat ul baqi and also visiting Masjid e Quba is recommended



Answering ObjectionOmer (radhiallah) cutting Tree where Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) took biyah fearing people will worship it

It states it is narrated that ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab (may Allaah be pleased with him) heard that some people were visiting the tree under which the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) had accepted the bay’ah of people, so he commanded that it should be cut down.”
[Narrated by Ibn Waddaah in his book al-Bida’ wa’l-Nahiy ‘anhaa, and by Ibn Abi Shaybah in al-Musannaf, 2/375. Its isnaad was classed as saheeh by Ibn Hajar in Fath al-Baari, 7/448]

people quote this narration to prove visiting dargahs are haram as people may worship graves so lets demolish them,

Reply

Some use this Hadith, wrongly, to prove that praying under the blessed tree was Shirk. Also, to search for Tabarruk and blessings of Nabi Muhammad (s) and pious people is Shirk and it is for this reason that Sayyidina Umar chopped the tree down.

This is a great lie and some people fabricate this to suit their own ideas and Sayyidina Umar (r) did chop the tree down, because he thought the people praying there were mushriks. (naoozbila)




That kind of a silly thought did not even occur his mind.

This incident -“as recorded in Sahih Bukhari (Kitab al-Maghazi) and Muslim (Kitab al-Imamah) -“ took place because there was controversy over which tree was the one where ba'yah was taken and reliable sources from amongst the Sahabah held that that tree was definitely the wrong tree and the original tree could no longer be located and had vanished .

Sahih Bukhari Book 52 Hadith 205
Narrated Ibn 'Umar:


When we reached (Hudaibiya) in the next year (of the treaty of Hudaibiya), not even two men amongst us agreed unanimously as to which was the tree under which we had given the pledge of allegiance, and that was out of Allah's Mercy.

The tree that the Tabi'een were visiting at the Hudaybiyyah , in the the time of Sayyidina Umar was not the real one, but it was in the same valley where the real one was.


Hence, the real reason Umar had the tree chopped down (because it was wrongly attributed to the Prophet (s).

In fact, the mysterious vanishing of the real tree by Allah (swt) shows how important it was


In the last moments of Jabir Bin Abdullah he had lost his sight he use to say: 'If I could see today I would show you where the tree was, where the Prophet (May Allah bless him and grant him peace) received the Ba’ya of the companions”.

[Sahih Bukhari chap,Al-Magazi]


Imam Ibn Hajar Asqalani says in the commentry: “Some people forgot where this place was like Sa’eed Bin Al-Musayib’s Father, and some knew where it was like Jabir Bin Abdullah”.


[Fathul bari, chapter Bay'a Ridwan]


Imam Tabari said:

During the period of Umar (Radiall hu anhu’s) Khalifet, he went for pilgrimage, when he passed Hudaiba' he asked:“Where is the tree under which the bay’a took place?” A person replied: 'This one”. Someone said: 'This one”. Umar (Radiall hu anhu) said: “Forget the inconvenience”.

[Tafsir Tafhemul Qur’an Surah Fata’h under verse 18 by Sayyid Maududi].





Answering Objection : Hadith of Sahih muslim on Building over the grave


Regarding Hadith of Sahih muslim And it was narrated that Jaabir (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade plastering over graves, or sitting on them or building over them. Both reports were narrated by Muslim in his Saheeh

Sitting over not around ,the graves is forbidden and no one sits on as grave, I never saw a sane muslim doing it ,Similarly the Dome is like a room build around not over a grave and this has been proved from above what Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) and first two caliphs(ra) of Islam were themselves buried in a room not in a open grave.
,By building over them it means structures made over them (not around ) during time of ignorance, Muslims build tomb or shrine around it



Examples of building over the grave by Christians and Jews, Muslims donot do it

This is what is meant by building over graves, Muslims build shrines around not over the graves , This is how Shrine of our Prophet Muhammad (salehalawaalihiwasalam) is, And this is how all shrines are built.Wahabis (salafis) need to take English and Arabic lessons to understand the difference between Over and Around





answering Objection: Issue of building mosque over a grave



Dawud Book 20 Hadith 3230

Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas:

The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) cursed women who visit graves those who built mosques over them and erected lamps



This hadith can be explained by a simple logic that even Prophet Muhammad's grave is inside a mosque.Not in the main hall where Salat is offered but according to the most famous and respect historian Ibn khateer




Imam at-Tabari and Hafiz Ibn Kathir write, in 88 AH,
that the room of 'A'isha (may Allah be pleased with her) - where there are graves of the Prophet Muhammad (may Allah bless him and grant him peace), Abu Bakr and 'Umar (may Allah be pleased with them)- was joined to the mosque of the Prophet

[Tareeh Tabari and Tar'ikh Hafiz Ibn Kathir, Chapter of Government of Walid ibn 'abd al-Malik]

This does not only answers right from Sunnah point of view but also fully refutes the Wahabi claims , Ahlus sunnah doesn't believes in building mosques over a grave or graves inside mosques but attaches graves to the mosque and main prayer and salat hall is still sepeared from the mosque which is a sunnah practice.

 

[such bolo]

I still maintain my stance that these tombs and graves must by leveled through Ruling Power. Those rulers who do so or will do so inshaAllah will get great reward

 

[Afraheem]

Astonishing to observe some opinions. These intellectuals who belong from various background sects like salafism etc have given a verdict without a debate. Construction of tombs is not an incorrect practice and it has its roots in Islam. Is there no room for debate and are we going to promote fascism ?

Construction of tombs is a decision which does not interferes in any body's private affairs.They are not build on your houses or graves but they are built on our houses and graves. This is our private matter and as long as we do not harm anybody we are free to practise our religion. Is this not an agreed principle. Unless someone is jealous of my religious teachings and followings I do not find any reason for criticism apart from thrusting your view point on me. What else is fascism ?


Proofs of building Shrines/Tombs of Prophets



It is a Sunnah to build tombs/shrines around the graves of Prophets (alaih salam) ,Salafs (RA) and Awliya al-Ikraam (rah). Although for public graveyards and ordinary muslims it is not allowed.



The First tomb in islam

Grave of Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) is "INSIDE" room of the house of Ayesha (ra)

The Second tomb in islam

Grave of Sayyidna Abu Bakr (RA) is in a room of the house of Ayesha (ra) buried next to Prophet (Peace be upon him)

The Third tomb in islam

Grave of Sayyidna Umar Ibnul Khattab (ra) is in a room of the house of Ayesha (ra) buried next to Prophet (Peace be upon him) and Abu Bakr (ra)

So it was a practice of Sahaba to bury Prophet (As) and Caliphs not openly but inside a Room or in other words a "CONSTRUCTED SHRINE"


Answering misquotation of Hadith and Objections



Hadith states Sahih Muslim Volume 2, Book 23, Number 414
Narrated 'Urwa:

Aisha said, "The Prophet in his fatal illness said, 'Allah cursed the Jews and the Christians because they took the graves of their Prophets as places for praying."

' Aisha added, " Had it not been for that the grave of the Prophet (p.b.u.h) would have been made prominent but I am afraid it might be taken (as a) place for praying.


The above hadith is quoted for jews and christians not for muslims who took their Prophets as God, Son/daughter of God. Lets see how the classical scholars view it.



Imam Ibn Hajar al - Haytami(in his Zawajir) quotes the hadith from Ahmad, Bukhari and Muslim that the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said: "May Allah curse the Jews and Christians; they have taken the tombs of their prophets as places of worship."


He said, "The reason for considering it an enormity is obvious

He explains, however, that, Taking a grave as a place of worship means to pray on the grave or towards it. The prohibition, moreover, applies exclusively to the grave of someone venerated... under the two conditions:

A) that the grave is of someone who is honored and venerated;

B) and that the prayer is performed towards or on the grave with the intention of gaining the blessing of it, or out of reverence for it. (from: al-Zawajir, Reliance w21)

And this is only if one prays so close to it that if praying the prayer of those attentive (looking down), the grave would be within one's sight.
[end quote ]


Hence praying salat towards the grave or doing sajda infront of it as christians/jews used to do it is haram.No one is history of Islam took this hadith as proof of prohibiting building of tombs/shrines over Pious muslims graves.





Proof 1 of building of tombs around a grave


Quran states:

Thus did We make their case known to the people, that they might know that the promise of Allah is true, and that there can be no doubt about the Hour of Judgment. Behold, they dispute among themselves as to their affair. (Some) said, "Construct a building over them": Their Lord knows best about them: those who prevailed over their affair said,"Let us surely build a place of worship over them." (Quran 18:21)




Authentic classical Tafsir for this verse




Tafsir Number 1

Qadhi Thana Ullah Panipatti (Rahimuhullah) writes in his great Tafsir al Mazhari: After the death of Ashaab al Kahf a dispute occurred between Muslims and non-muslims, The Muslims said that they will make a Masjid over them because they were of our faith whereas the disbelievers said they will build other buildings on it where people will live.This Ayah is proving that Mosques could be made near graves of Awliya in order to say salaat in them, Tabarruk is also attained through the tombs of Awliya [Tafsir al Mazhari Volume No.7, Page No. 123-124]




Tafsir Number 2


Tafsir by Imam Bayzawi (rah) says: "From this it is understood that to erect a Mausoleum for the special people, i.e. Pious Saints and Ulema, is permissible".




Tafsir Number 3


Tafsir by Imam Fakhrud'deen Razi (rah) writes:

أن بعضهم قال: الأولى أن يسد باب الكهف لئلا يدخل عليهم أحد ولا يقف على أحوالهم إنسان. وقال آخرون: بل الأولى أن يبني على باب الكهف مسجد وهذا القول يدل على أن أولئك الأقوام كانوا عارفين بالله معترفين بالعبادة والصلاة

Translation: Some people said that the door of the cave should be closed so that nobody can enter it and the Ahwaal (of Ashab e Kahf) are kept hidden. Some people said that It is better to build a mosque at the door, this saying proves that these people were ARIFEEN OF ALLAH WHO BELIEVED IN WORSHIPPING AND PRAYER[Tafsir al Kabeer, Volume No. 5, Page No. 475]



Imam al-Razi also said:

ثم قال تعالى: {قَالَ ٱلَّذِينَ غَلَبُوا۴ عَلَىٰۤ أَمْرِهِمْ** قيل المراد به الملك المسلم، وقيل: أولياء أصحاب الكهف، وقيل: رؤساء البلد: {لَنَتَّخِذَنَّ عَلَيْهِم مَّسْجِدًا** نعبد الله فيه ونستبقي آثار أصحاب الكهف بسبب ذلك المسجد

Translation: And when Allah said {Those who prevailed over their affair** this refers to the MUSLIM RULER or the Awliya of Ashaab al Kahf (i.e. their momineen friends) or the leaders of town. {We will surely build a Mosque over them** so that we can WORSHIP ALLAH in it and due to it we will PRESERVE THE RELICS OF ASHAAB AL KAHF[Tafsir al-Kabeer, 5/475]





Tafsir Number 4

In "Tafseer Roohul Bayaan", Vol. 3, according to the verse: "To build over the graves of the Ulema, Awliya and the Saliheen is a permissible act with this condition that the motive is that the greatness of these pious people must be made apparent so that the people don't think that it is an ordinary grave."





Tafsir Number 5


Imam Hakim (Rehmatullah Alaih) said in his Tafsir

قال الذين غلبوا على أمرهم** وهم المؤمنون, وكانوا غالبين في ذلك الوقت

Translation: {Those who prevailed over their affair** refers to the MOMINEEN and they prevailed over this matter in that time [Tafsir al Wahidi under 18:21]





Tafsir Number 6


Imam Jalal ud-din Suyuti (Rehmatullah Alaih) and Al Muhalli (Rehmatullah Alaih) explain in Tafsir al Jalalyn:

يَتَنَـٰزَعُونَ** أي المؤمنون والكفار {بَيْنَهُمْ أَمْرَهُمْۖ** أمر الفتية في البناء حولهم {فَقَالُوۤا۴** أي الكفار {ٱبْنُوا۴ عَلَيْهِم** أي حولهم {بُنْيَـٰنًاۖ** يسترهم {رَّبُّهُمْ أَعْلَمُ بِهِمْۚ قَالَ ٱلَّذِينَ غَلَبُوا۴ عَلَىٰۤ أَمْرِهِمْ** أمر الفتية وهم المؤمنون {لَنَتَّخِذَنَّ عَلَيْهِم** حولهم {مَّسْجِدًا** يصلى فيه، وفعل ذلك على باب الكهف.

Translation: They were disputing, that is, the believers and the disbelievers, among themselves their affair, the affair of the youths, with regard to building something around them [as a monument]; so they, the disbelievers, said, Build over them, that is, around them, a building, to cover them up; their Lord knows them best. Those who prevailed regarding their affair, the affair of the youths, NAMELY THE BELIEVERS"


We will verily set up over them, around them, a place of worship, for prayers to be performed therein. And this indeed took place at the entrance of the cave.[Tafsir al Jalalyn, Volume No.1, Page No. 389]




Tafsir Number 7


Imam Nasafi (Rehmatullah Alaih) writes in his Tafsir al Nasafi:

قَالَ ٱلَّذِينَ غَلَبُوا۴ عَلَىٰۤ أَمْرِهِمْ** من المسلمين وملكهم
وكانوا أولى بهم وبالبناء عليهم {لَنَتَّخِذَنَّ عَلَيْهِم** على باب الكهف {مَّسْجِدًا** يصلي فيه المسلمون ويتبركون

Translation: {Those who prevailed over their affair** these are the MUSLIMS AND THE RULERS who said to build over them i.e. on the door of cave a Masjid so that MUSLIMS CAN PRAY IN IT AND SEEK TABARRUK [Tafsir al Nasafi, Volume No.3, Page No. 18]





Tafsir Number 8


Imam Abu Hayyan al Andalusi (Rehmatullah Alaih) said:


وروي أن التي دعت إلى البنيان كانت كافرة أرادت بناء بيعة أو مصنع لكفرهم فمانعهم المؤمنون وبنوا عليهم مسجداً


Translation: The person who told to make a building over them was a Kafir woman, she told to make a Church over them where deeds of Kufr can take place, however the momineen stopped her and made a Masjid over there instead [Tafsir Bahr al Muheet, Volume No. 7, Page No. 158]




Tafsir Number 9


Allama Ibn Jawzi (Rehmatullah Alaih) who is considered the most strict scholar and revered highly by Salafi Muslims, he states in his Tafsir under 18:21


قال ابن قتيبة: يعني المُطاعين والرؤساء، قال المفسرون: وهم الملك وأصحابه المؤمنون اتخذوا عليهم مسجداً

Translation: Ibn Qutayba (Rehmatullah Alaih) said that the Mufasireen said: People who made Masjid were the (Muslim) King and his Momineen companions [Tafsir Zaad ul Maseer, Volume No. 5, Page No.124]






Tafsir Number 10



Imam Shahab ud-din Khafaji (Rehmatullah Alaih) wrote:

مسجد ايدل على جوازا لبناء على قبور الصلحاء ونحوهم كما اشار الي فى الكشاف وجواز الصلوة فى ذلك البناء

Translation: (Making mosque on cave) IS PROOF OF MAKING MOSQUES OVER THE GRAVES OF SALIHEEN just like It is mentioned in Tafsir al Kashaaf and It is PERMITTED to pray inside this construction [Imam Khafaji in Inayatul Qadhi, Volume No. 6, Page No. 87, Published by Dar us Sadir, Beirut, Lebanon]





Tafsir Number 11


Mullah Ali Qari (Rehmatullah Alaih) writes:

أما من اتخذ مسجدا في جوار صالح أو صلى في مقبرة وقصد الإستظهار بروحه أو وصول أثر ما من أثر عبادته إليه لا للتعظيم له والتوجه نحوه فلا حرج عليه ألا ترى أن مرقد إسماعيل عليه السلام في المسجد الحرام عند الحطيم ثم أن ذلك المسجد أفضل مكان يتحرى المصلى لصلاته والنهي عن الصلاة في المقابر مختص بالقبور المنبوشة لما فيها من النجاسة كذا ذكره الطيبي وذكر غيره أن صورة قبر إسماعيل عليه السلام في الحجر تحت الميزاب وإن في الحطيم بين الحجر الأسود وزمزم قبر سبعين نبيا


Translation: Anyone who builds a mosque near the grave of an upright person or prays in the tomb (Maqbara) or intends to ask for help through the Ruh of that upright person or intends to seek barakah from his left overs, If he does all that without the intention of giving him Tazeem or doing tawajuh towards him ( in prayer) Then there is nothing wrong in that, don't you see that Grave of Hadrat Ismail(A.S) is inside the Masjid ul Harram near the hateem and to Pray there is Superior than anything else however to pray near the graves is only forbidden when the soil becomes dirty because of Najasat of deceased In the Hateem near Hajr al Aswad and Mizaab there are Graves of 70 Prophets [Mirqat, Sharh al Mishqaat, Volume No. 2, Page No. 202]





Mullah Ali Qari (Rehmatullah Alaih) also said:

وقد أباح السلف البناء على قبر المشايخ والعلماء المشهورين ليزورهم الناس ويستريحوا بالجلوس فيه


Translation: The early Muslims (Salaf) have considered it Mubah (i.e. allowed) to build over the graves of famous Mashaikh and Ulama so that people can visit them and sit there (easily) [Mirqaat Sharh al Misshqaat, Volume No. 4, Page No. 69]


So Indeed the Prophets, Mashaikh and Saliheen do not come under the prohibition because the grave of Prophet (Peace be upon him), Abu Bakr (RadhiAllah anho), Umar (RadhiAllah anho) and many other Prophets and Saliheen have remained BUILT OVER




Tafsir Number 12


Ibn khatir in his tafsir writes.


م { قَالَ ٱلَّذِينَ غَلَبُواْ عَلَىٰ أَمْرِهِمْ لَنَتَّخِذَنَّ عَلَيْهِمْ مَّسْجِدًا ** حكى ابن جرير في القائلين ذلك قولين: [أحدهما] أنهم المسلمون منهم.

Translation: "When the people of the cave went into the cave, some people close to the entrance of the cave said, 'Build a mosque so we can worship Allah.' The people who said this were Muslims" [Tafsir Tabari, Tafsir Ibn Kathir, Sura al-Kahf, verse 21]






Tafsir Number 13

The famous commentator of Sahih Bukhari and leading scholar in sight of Sunnis and Salafis/wahabisies.



Imam Ibn Hajr al Asqalani (rah) writes in his magnificent Fath ul Bari

In view of the fact that the Jews and Christians were taking the graves of their Prophets as their qibla for the purpose of respect, and were paying attention towards them at the time of their prayers, their graves took the position of idols. For this reason the Muslims have been forbidden from this action. However, if someone constructs a mosque near the grave of a pious person for the prupose of seeking tabarruk and not for prostration or paying attention towards them, he will never be included in this prohibition.( Ibn Hajr al-Asqalani, Fath al-bari, vol. 3, p. 208)





Proof 2 of building of tombs around a grave



Hadrat Umar (Ra) wish to get buried beside Tomb of Prophet(saw) in a Room


Al-Bukhari narrates in his Sahih, Book of Jana'iz:

When `Umar was stabbed he sent his son `Abd Allah with a message to `A'isha to "Ask her if I can be buried with my two companions," that is, in her room, next to the Prophet and Abu Bakr. `A'isha replied: "I wanted the spot for myself, but I shall put him [`Umar] before me today." It had been her habit that if a man from among the Companions asked her that spot she would always refuse. She herself gave the following instructions before her death: "Bury me with my lady-friends (the wives of the Prophet in al-Baqi`) [but do not bury me with the Prophet in the house, for I dislike to be held in reverence (inni akrahu an uzakka)." Ibn `Umar came back with the news, whereupon `Umar said: "NOTHING IN THE WORLD WAS MORE IMPORTANT TO ME THAN THAT RESTING-PLACE." [Narrated by al-Bukhari in his Sahih.]

Why did Hadrat Umar (ra) wanted to get buried in a room and not outside , Why is Hadrat Abu Baker (Ra) buried in a Room , A tomb is also a room built around the grave ,and it proves its a sunnah


The Tomb of Aqah Karim (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) is the greatest proof of this practice , Other tombs of Sahabas (Ra) were demolished by Al saud otherwise they too were present throughout history of islam.






Proof 3


Hadiths proving tombs of 70 Prophets (as) Tomb



5769- وعن ابن عمر أن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم قال‏:‏
‏"‏في مسجد الخيف قبر سبعون نبياً‏"‏‏.‏
رواه البزار ورجاله ثقات‏.‏

Narrated by Ibn Umar (RA) from Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) who said: In (fi) the Mosque of al-Khayf there is Qabr of 70 Prophets (together)

Imam al Haythami said that it is narrated by Al-Bazzar and all its narrators are trustworthy (i.e. Hadith is absolutely sahih)





Proof 4

Jesus Will Be Burried Next to our Prophet's (may God bless him and grant him peace) Tomb


Jesus, son of Mary, will come down to the world He will marry, . . . live for 45 years and then die. He will be buried with me [Mohammed] in my grave. Then I and Jesus, son of Mary, will stand up in one grave between Abu Bakr and `Umar. (Mishkat-ul-Masabih, 40:4)

Jesus will marry and have a child after he returns. After he dies, the Muslims will perform his funeral prayer and bury him at the Rauza-i-Aqdas (Ibn Hajar al-Haythami, Al-Qawl al-Mukhtasar fi `Alamat al-Mahdi al-Muntazar, 65)


This hadith itself proves that Hadrat Esa (aleh islam) will be buried in Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) Tomb along with him





Imam Shafi(Rehmatuallah aliye) visiting Tomb of Imam abu Hanifa (Rah)


Proof No:5

He describes his own experience about the blessings of the tomb of Imam Abū Hanīfah: I derive blessing from the person of Imam Abū Hanīfah and I visit his grave everyday. When I face a problem, I offer two optional cycles of prayer and visit his grave and (while standing) I pray to Allah to solve my problem. And I have not even left the place that my problem is solved.

Reference

►Khatīb Baghdādī has related the incident with a sound chain of transmission in his Tārīkh Baghdād (1:123)

►Ibn Hajar Haythamī, al-Khayrāt-ul-hisān fī manāqib-il-imām al-azam Abū Hanīfah (p.94)

► Muhammad Zāhid Kawtharī, Maqālāt (p.381)

►Ibn Ābidīn Shāmī in Radd-ul-muhtār alā Durr-il-mukhtār (1:41).






Sheikh ul-Islam al-Hafiz al-Imam Nawawi (Rehmatuallah aliye)

Proof No:6


اعلم أنه ينبغي لكل من حجّ أن يتوجه إلى زيارة رسول اللّه صلى اللّه عليه وسلم، سواء كان ذلك طريقه أو لم يكن، فإن زيارته صلى اللّه عليه وسلم من أهمّ القربات وأربح المساعي وأفضل الطلبات، فإذا توجَّه للزيارة أكثرَ من الصلاة عليه صلى اللّه عليه وسلم في طريقه، فإذا وقعَ بصرُه على أشجار المدينة وحَرمِها وما يَعرفُ بها زاد من الصلاة والتسليم عليه صلى اللّه عليه وسلم، وسألَ اللّه تعالى أن ينفعَه بزيارته صلى اللّه عليه وسلم، وأن يُسعدَه بها في الدارين، وليقلْ‏:‏ اللَّهُمَّ افْتَحْ عَليَّ أبْوَابَ رَحْمَتِكَ وَارْزُقْنِي في زِيارَةِ قَبْرِ نَبِيِّكَ صلى اللّه عليه وسلم ما رزقْتَهُ أوْلِياءَكَ وأهْلَ طَاعَتِكَ واغْفِرْ لي وارْحمنِي يا خَيْرَ مَسْؤُول


Section: Chapter regarding Visit to the Tomb of the Messenger of Allah (Salallaho alaihi wasalam), and the Dhikr made there"

It should be known that EVERYONE who performs the hajj should set out to visit the Messenger of Allah (Salallaho alaihi wasalam), WHETHER IT IS ON ONES WAY OR NOT because visiting him (Salallaho alaihi wasalam) is one of the most important acts of worship, the most rewarded of efforts, and best of goals. When one sets out to perform the visit, one should do much of the blessings and peace upon him (salallaho alaihi wasalam) on the way. And when ones eye falls on the trees of Medina, and its sanctum and landmarks, one should increase sending the blessings and peace upon the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace), asking Allah Most High to benefit one by ones VISIT TO HIM (Allah bless him and give him peace)...and grant one felicity in this world and the next through it. One should say,"O Allah, open for me the doors of Your mercy, and bestow upon me, through the visit to the Grave of Your prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace), that which You have bestowed upon Your friends, those who obey You. Forgive me and show me mercy, O Best of Those Asked" (Imam Nawawi in Kitab ul Adhkaar, Page No. 178)






Kharija ibn Zayd said: I can see myself when we were young men [boys] in the time of Uthman [ibn `Affan](ra)The strongest one of us in high jump was he who could jump over the grave of `Uthman ibn Maz`un and clear it


► cited by al-Bukhari in his Sahih chapter-title, "[Placing] a Stalk on Top of the Grave."

► Ibn Hajar said in Fath al-Bari (3:256=1959 ed. 3:223 cf. Taghliq al-Ta`liq):

► "Al-Bukhari narrated it with its chain in al-Tarikh al-Saghir (1:42

It contains a proof for the licitness of raising high the grave and elevating it above the surface of the earth,

In second hadith it says high jump by sahabas (Ra) which is only possible if grave is high

Now according to above hadith Amir al-San`ani in Subul al-Salam said: "The Jumhur - vast majority - hold that the prohibition of building up and plastering graves is one of preference (tanzih) [i.e. not strictness (tahrim)] and that preference is for Qaboor of Laymen as Grave of Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) himself is elevated as stated in Sahih bukhari above ,



BUILDING A MOUND OVER THE GRAVE...

Under it he brings the hadith

Abu Hanifa informed us from Hammad that Ibrahim said: Someone informed me that they had seen the grave of Prophet (Peace be upon him), the grave of Abu Bakr (ra), and the grave of Umar (ra) with mounds on top of them protruding prominently from the gournd and on them pieces of white clay.

Imam Muhammad said: We (Ahnaaf) adhere to this, the grave is marked with a prominent mound, but it is not to be made in the form of a square and that is the Verdict of Abu Hanifa [Kitab ul Athaar, Page No. 145, Published by Turath Publishing]





The Wahabi sect claims that all graves should be flattened or destroyed, this is directly in opposition to Sunnah. The Hadith which they misuse refers to flattening the graves of Mushrikeen not momineen because the graves of Prophet, Abu Bakr, Umar and other sahaba is proven to be built in "MOUNDED SHAPE"



Shafi classical point of view for public graves


The great Shafi scholar and Sufi, Imam Abdul Wahab al-Sharani (rah) writes:
My teacher Ali (rah) and brother Afzal ud din (rah) used to forbid that domes should be build over graves of ordinary people and also to put the deceased in COFFINS and also to put sheets over their graves. They used to say that only Prophets and great awliya are deserving for domes and sheets, whereas we should be buried in the feet of people and also in their ways [Al-Anwar al Qudsiya, Page No. 593]



Imam Ibn Hibban (rah) the great Muhadith from Islaaf as Saliheen (rah) [d. 354 AH] said regarding visitation to tomb of Imam Ali Raza bin Musa (ra):


قد زرته مراراً کثيرة، وما حلّت بي شدّة في وقت مقامي بطوس، وزرت قبر علي بن موسي الرضا صلوات اﷲ علي جده وعليه، ودعوت اﷲ تعالي إزالتها عنّي إلا استجيب لي، وزالت عنّي تلک الشدّة وهذا شئ جرّبته مراراً فوجدته کذلک، أماتنا اﷲ علي محبة المصطفي وأهل بيته صلي اﷲ وسلم عليه وعليهم أجمعين.

I have done ziyarah of his tomb many times, during my stay at Tus, whenever I got into any difficulty I went to the grave of Imam Musa raza (ra) and asked Allah for the fulfillment of my need, every time I was answered and my difficulty was removed. This is such a reality that I found it to be true nomatter how many times I did it May Allah grant us death in the true love for Prophet (Peace be upon him) and his blessed Ahlul Bayt. [Ibn Abi Hatim Razi, Kitab al Thiqat, Volume No. 8, Page No. 457, Number: 14411]





Answering Objection : Prostrating towards a grave(doing sajda)


This is clearly haram even if sajda e tazeemi , Sunni muslims donot believe in doing Sajda towards a grave as Shariah prohibits it ,

it has already in miskat ul mabasih page 161 Vol 1 hadith 694


و عن عطا ء بن ىسار قال قال رسؤل الله صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلمااللهما كا تجعل قبرى وثنا يعبد اشتد غضب الله علئ قوم اتخز وا قبور انبيا حى ام مسا جد رواحما لق مرسلق

Hadrat Ata Bin Siyar narrated that Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) said that donot make my grave an idol after I die may Allah curse this nation who made graves of their Prophets (as) into prostration places (worship places)

Here above strictness forbidding prostration is narrated in the hadith , and by making places of worshipping it means making it prostration place, this has already been mentioned by imam ibn e hajar (Rah) in same thread

so any one who does Sajda to is haram, any muslims who does it is not follow ahle sunnah wal jammat



On the issue of kissing a Shrine/grave Or putting head on grave.


PROOF 1

It is also narrated that Mu`adh ibn Jabal and Bilal came to the grave of the Prophet and sat weeping, and the latter rubbed his face against it.

► Ibn Majah 2:1320,

►Ahmad,

►al-Tabarani,

►al-Subki, and Ibn `Asakir



PROOF 2

Dawud ibn Salih said: "[The governor of Madina] Marwan [ibn al-Hakam] one day saw a man placing his face on top of the grave of the Prophet. He said: "Do you know what you are doing?" When he came near him, he realized it was Abu Ayyub al-Ansari. The latter said: "Yes; I came to the Prophet, not to a stone.,

► Ibn Hibban in his Sahih,

►Ahmad (5:422),

►Al-Tabarani in his Mu`jam al-Kabir (4:189) and his Awsat according to Haythami in al-Zawa'id (5:245 and 5:441 [URL="http://www.siasat.pk/forum/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=58"][URL=http://www.siasat.pk/forum/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=58]#58 [/URL] 45[/URL] Book of Hajj, "Section on the honoring of the dwellers of Madina, chapter on placing one's face against the grave of our Master the Prophet " and [URL=http://www.siasat.pk/forum/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=9252]#9252 [/URL] Book of Khilafa, "Chapter on the leadership of those unworthy of it"),

►al-Hakim in his Mustadrak (4:515);

► both the latter and al-Dhahabi said it was sahih.

► It is also cited by al-Subki in Shifa' al-siqam (p. 126)

►and Ibn Taymiyya in al-Muntaqa (2:261f.)



Prophet's (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) Grave

Imam al-Dhahabi said: "Ahmad ibn Hanbal was asked about touching the Prophet's grave and kissing it and he saw nothing wrong with it. His son 'Abd Allah related this from him. If it is asked: "Why did the Companions not do this?" ]We reply: "Because they saw him with their very eyes when he was alive, enjoyed his presence directly, kissed his very hand, nearly fought each other over the remnants of his ablution water, shared his purified hair on the day of the greater Pilgrimage, and even if he spat it would virtually not fall except in someone's hand so that he could pass it over his face. Since we have not had the tremendous fortune of sharing in this, we throw ourselves on his grave as a mark of commitment, reverence, and acceptance, even to kiss it. Do you not see what Thabit al-Bunani did when he kissed the hand of Anas ibn Malik and placed it on his face saying: "This is the hand that touched the hand of the Messenger of Allah "? Muslims are not moved to these matters except by their excessive love for the Prophet , as they are ordered to love Allah and the Prophet more than their own lives, their children, all human beings, their property, and Paradise and its maidens. There are even some believers that love Abu Bakr and 'Umar more than themselves.
[Al-Dhahabi, Mu'jam al-Shuyukh (1:73 [URL=http://www.siasat.pk/forum/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=58]#58 [/URL] ).]


"'Abd Allah ibn Ahmad said: "I saw my father take a hair that belonged to the Prophet , put it on his mouth, and kiss it. I believe I saw him put it on his eyes. He also dipped it in water and drank the water to obtain cure. I saw him take the Prophet's bowl (qas'a), wash it in water, and drink from it. I saw him drink Zamzam water in order to seek cure with it, and he wiped his hands and face with it." I say: Where is the quibbling critic of Imam Ahamad now?

It is also authentically established that 'Abd Allah asked is father about those who touch the pommel of the Prophet's e pulpit and touch the wall of the Prophet's e room, and he said: "I do not see any harm in it." May Allah protect us and you from the opinion of the Khawarij and from innovations!

[ Al-Dhahabi, Siyar A'lam al-Nubala' (9:457). Ch. on Imam Ah.mad, section entitled Min adabih]



Answering Objection To put pictures near grave




Narrated Aisha

Um Salama told Allah's Apostle about a church which she had seen in Ethiopia and which was called Mariya.She told him about the pictures which she had seen in it. Allah's Apostle said, "If any righteous pious man dies amongst them, they would build a place of worship at his grave and make these pictures in it; they are theworst creatures in the sight of Allah."

[sahih bukhari volume 1, number 426]

First thing to be noted is ahle sunnah wal jammat considers putting pictures at graves as haram and No muslim at any part of world does it, Worshipping (means doing sajda) according to hadith of Miskat and even Imam Ibn e Hajar (Rah) , there is no a single imam who took worshpiing as building shrines except some deviated people, As QURAN ITSELF SAYS THEY BUILD A PLACE OF WORSHIP AND EVEN MASJID R NABWI (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) is a Place of Worship ,

Making pictures is haram and has no justification

Secondly this hadith is stated for Christians and non muslims, And some people blindly quote such hadiths and verses for muslims



Answering Objection Hadith of Visiting only 3 mosques is allowed


Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "Do not set out on a journey except for three mosques, i.e. Al-Masjid-Al-Haram, the Mosque of Allah's Apostle, and the Mosque of Al-Aqsa (Mosque of Jerusalem)." [Sahih bukhari volume 2,number 281]

Some people take this hadith literally to claim that going to any mosque or Shrine is Haram , According to this childish logic we see

► All scholars who go to any mosque in the world to give lectures or pay visits (which many do every year including wahabi(ghair muqaled) school scholars) are doing a haram act

Now let us see what Classical imams (rah) said regarding this issue


IMAM NAWAWI ON THIS HADITH quoting Salafs

Imam Nawawi write in Sharah of hadith 'Not to travel (for visiting) except for three mosques (Bukhari)' the true meaning of hadith, He (Nawawi) Write: In this haidth the Three Mosques status and thier high status as compaired to other mosques in the world is mentioned, because these are mosques of the Prophets (may Peace Be Upon Him) and this is why offering salat in them has greater blessing. (he writes more that many ulemas have different viewpoint regarding going to Graves and going to these three Mosques)

Near our Masters (i.e Shafi'I) right Concept is that those to whom Imam al-Harmain (Abu al-Mali Abdul Malik al-Jiyoni) and other researches of islam have permitted for them its neither Haram not Makruh to visit grave (qaboor) for Ziyarah,

According to them it means that to go for a journey for Sawab having intentions of complete and utmost blessing is only permissible for these three mosques. [Sharah Sahih Muslim, Nawawi, Volume 009, Page No. 106]



Ibn e taymiyah said

He said It is also mustahabb (recommended) to visit the graves of the people of al-Baqee and the martyrs of Uhud, to pray for them and ask for forgiveness for them, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to do this, but this is prescribed for all the Muslim graves. (Majmoo al-Fataawa, 17/470)



Also Visiting mosque of Quba apart from 3 mosques


For those who still after views of Imam Nawawi Rah take that hadith literally ,

The hadeeth narrated in al-Saheehayn from Ibn Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) who said: The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to come to Quba riding and walking. According to another report: and he would pray two rakahs there. (narrated by al-Bukhaari and Muslim).

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) also said, Whoever purifies himself in his house then comes to the mosque of Quba and prays there, he will have a reward like that for Umrah.

►Narrated by Ahmad,

►al-Nasaai,

► Ibn Maajah

►and al-Haakim. Al-Haakim classed it as saheeh and al-Dhahabi agreed with him

► Also classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Jaami, 6154
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this proves that the hadith of only visiting three moques if taken literally is illogical , As Sahabas (Ra) used to Visit janat ul baqi and also visiting Masjid e Quba is recommended



Answering ObjectionOmer (radhiallah) cutting Tree where Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) took biyah fearing people will worship it

It states it is narrated that Umar ibn al-Khattaab (may Allaah be pleased with him) heard that some people were visiting the tree under which the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) had accepted the bayah of people, so he commanded that it should be cut down.
[Narrated by Ibn Waddaah in his book al-Bida wal-Nahiy anhaa, and by Ibn Abi Shaybah in al-Musannaf, 2/375. Its isnaad was classed as saheeh by Ibn Hajar in Fath al-Baari, 7/448]

people quote this narration to prove visiting dargahs are haram as people may worship graves so lets demolish them,

Reply

Some use this Hadith, wrongly, to prove that praying under the blessed tree was Shirk. Also, to search for Tabarruk and blessings of Nabi Muhammad (s) and pious people is Shirk and it is for this reason that Sayyidina Umar chopped the tree down.

This is a great lie and some people fabricate this to suit their own ideas and Sayyidina Umar (r) did chop the tree down, because he thought the people praying there were mushriks. (naoozbila)




That kind of a silly thought did not even occur his mind.

This incident -as recorded in Sahih Bukhari (Kitab al-Maghazi) and Muslim (Kitab al-Imamah) - took place because there was controversy over which tree was the one where ba'yah was taken and reliable sources from amongst the Sahabah held that that tree was definitely the wrong tree and the original tree could no longer be located and had vanished .

Sahih Bukhari Book 52 Hadith 205
Narrated Ibn 'Umar:


When we reached (Hudaibiya) in the next year (of the treaty of Hudaibiya), not even two men amongst us agreed unanimously as to which was the tree under which we had given the pledge of allegiance, and that was out of Allah's Mercy.

The tree that the Tabi'een were visiting at the Hudaybiyyah , in the the time of Sayyidina Umar was not the real one, but it was in the same valley where the real one was.


Hence, the real reason Umar had the tree chopped down (because it was wrongly attributed to the Prophet (s).

In fact, the mysterious vanishing of the real tree by Allah (swt) shows how important it was


In the last moments of Jabir Bin Abdullah he had lost his sight he use to say: 'If I could see today I would show you where the tree was, where the Prophet (May Allah bless him and grant him peace) received the Baya of the companions.

[Sahih Bukhari chap,Al-Magazi]


Imam Ibn Hajar Asqalani says in the commentry: Some people forgot where this place was like Saeed Bin Al-Musayibs Father, and some knew where it was like Jabir Bin Abdullah.


[Fathul bari, chapter Bay'a Ridwan]


Imam Tabari said:

During the period of Umar (Radiall hu anhus) Khalifet, he went for pilgrimage, when he passed Hudaiba' he asked:Where is the tree under which the baya took place? A person replied: 'This one. Someone said: 'This one. Umar (Radiall hu anhu) said: Forget the inconvenience.

[Tafsir Tafhemul Quran Surah Fatah under verse 18 by Sayyid Maududi].





Answering Objection : Hadith of Sahih muslim on Building over the grave


Regarding Hadith of Sahih muslim And it was narrated that Jaabir (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade plastering over graves, or sitting on them or building over them. Both reports were narrated by Muslim in his Saheeh

Sitting over not around ,the graves is forbidden and no one sits on as grave, I never saw a sane muslim doing it ,Similarly the Dome is like a room build around not over a grave and this has been proved from above what Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) and first two caliphs(ra) of Islam were themselves buried in a room not in a open grave.
,By building over them it means structures made over them (not around ) during time of ignorance, Muslims build tomb or shrine around it



Examples of building over the grave by Christians and Jews, Muslims donot do it

This is what is meant by building over graves, Muslims build shrines around not over the graves , This is how Shrine of our Prophet Muhammad (salehalawaalihiwasalam) is, And this is how all shrines are built.Wahabis (salafis) need to take English and Arabic lessons to understand the difference between Over and Around





answering Objection: Issue of building mosque over a grave



Dawud Book 20 Hadith 3230

Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas:

The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) cursed women who visit graves those who built mosques over them and erected lamps



This hadith can be explained by a simple logic that even Prophet Muhammad's grave is inside a mosque.Not in the main hall where Salat is offered but according to the most famous and respect historian Ibn khateer




Imam at-Tabari and Hafiz Ibn Kathir write, in 88 AH,
that the room of 'A'isha (may Allah be pleased with her) - where there are graves of the Prophet Muhammad (may Allah bless him and grant him peace), Abu Bakr and 'Umar (may Allah be pleased with them)- was joined to the mosque of the Prophet

[Tareeh Tabari and Tar'ikh Hafiz Ibn Kathir, Chapter of Government of Walid ibn 'abd al-Malik]

This does not only answers right from Sunnah point of view but also fully refutes the Wahabi claims , Ahlus sunnah doesn't believes in building mosques over a grave or graves inside mosques but attaches graves to the mosque and main prayer and salat hall is still sepeared from the mosque which is a sunnah practice.

جناب آپ کا الله بھلا کرے میرا ایمان اور مضبوط کر دیا اب مجھہے ان وہابیوں کی خرافات سے کوئی سرو کار نہیں ہے
:jazak::jazak::jazak::jazak::jazak::jazak::jazak::jazak:

 

[kaka1]

 

[Temojin]

[MENTION=13215]Cheeko[/MENTION]

Thanks a lot.

For all others, if anybody has the time (which we generally lack because we want to present out points of view only and don't even read comments completely that have been posted by others), anybody talking with such disrespect about saints as well as demolishing this, keep in mind they are the same people in our cities who harbour those terrorists (who go on suicide bombing missions to these shrines in Lahore etc.) before they prepare for it so police can't get hold of them due to being new in the city. This is a clear message and keep an eye on these takfeeris please.

We can see their hatred the way they talk about Hazrat Ali Hajveri (now where in this world did he talk anything out of Shariyyat? take his book, he didn't ask people to build a tomb upon his grave, talk about worshipping his grave which is a false allegation in the first place) so why speak about him in a derogatory way than those who allegedly promote activities which they claim to be shirk. He was the person because of which Lahoris got towards Islam. We can see the presence of Waseelah as well because if there didn't have to be any waseelah, a voice from sky would come and people would instantly declare eemaan, Prophets A.S were sent as a waseelah for spreading message of Allah and Allah himself doesn't need anyone for this but did exactly this to provide us with an example for waseelah and that humans can be of help with Allah's will.

 

[Afraheem]

جناب میرا ان حضرات سے سوال ہے کے جس کے پیسوں سے یہ اپنے مدرسے چلاتے ہیں وہ سعودی خاندان مسلم دنیا میں موجود سب سے گندے اور غلیظ انسانو کو ایسے قبول کرتا ہے جیسے دین کی خدمت کر رے ہیں عیدی امین سے لے کر زین الابدین تک یمن کے صالح تک دنیا اسلام کے بدترین حکمرانو کو یہ پناہ دیتے ہیں اور ہاں اپنا نورا بھی انہی کے پاس جا کر بیٹری چارج کر کے پھر ہم پر مسلط ہونے کے لیے آ گیا ہے ذرا اس طرف بھی جہاد کریں ذرا اس پر بھی اپنے عقل اور دانش کے موتی بکھیریں بڑی نوازش ہوگی اور ابھی میں نے ان کے ذاتی حرکتوں کو نہیں چھیڑا جو یہ سادی خاندان تیل کی دولت پر کرتے ہیں

 

[Temojin]

Nobody worships graves amongst Muslims, a false belief by the servants of the house of saud.

So all presented material relates to something that kuffar do and we don't so think about it.

About razing graves, bhai mere did you ever, I mean ever think that those were the graves of mushrikeen with pagan symbols and all things upon them with all markings of takabbur on them, please think my mate before just reading lines and copy pasting them.

You have quoted Surah Ra'ad where ayats are completely for idols like laat uzzah and haven't you ever read Quran e Paak with translation? Don't you know that those are the worst people who paste ayats for mushrikeen upon Muslims?

You have quoted Surah A'raf where the translation if you have even little knowledge of Arabic like me Allah ke ilawah (Allah ki raza ke ilawa) Allah ko chor ker (Allah ki raza ko chor ker), yani Allah ki raza ke saath aur uske naam ke saath yani waseelah ke saath pukarna. Allah ko chor ker kisi ko pukarna jaiz nahi magar Allah ke saath to jaiz hai (Waseelah bana ker Allah ko pukarna, Allah ke naam ke saath pukarna), think upon things before copy-pasting.

I am sure you haven't read a single paragraph of what another friend presented here because we don't want to learn but to force our opinion only.

 

[such bolo]

Nobody worships graves amongst Muslims, a false belief by the servants of the house of saud.

So all presented material relates to something that kuffar do and we don't so think about it.

About razing graves, bhai mere did you ever, I mean ever think that those were the graves of mushrikeen with pagan symbols and all things upon them with all markings of takabbur on them, please think my mate before just reading lines and copy pasting them.

You have quoted Surah Ra'ad where ayats are completely for idols like laat uzzah and haven't you ever read Quran e Paak with translation? Don't you know that those are the worst people who paste ayats for mushrikeen upon Muslims?

You have quoted Surah A'raf where the translation if you have even little knowledge of Arabic like me Allah ke ilawah (Allah ki raza ke ilawa) Allah ko chor ker (Allah ki raza ko chor ker), yani Allah ki raza ke saath aur uske naam ke saath yani waseelah ke saath pukarna. Allah ko chor ker kisi ko pukarna jaiz nahi magar Allah ke saath to jaiz hai (Waseelah bana ker Allah ko pukarna, Allah ke naam ke saath pukarna), think upon things before copy-pasting.

I am sure you haven't read a single paragraph of what another friend presented here because we don't want to learn but to force our opinion only.

@Temojin

جو کام اللہ کے نبی صلی اللہ علیہ وسلّم کے زمانے میں شرک تھا
وہی کام مسلمانوں کے لئے عین توحید کیسے ہوگیا؟؟

مشرک اپنے بزرگوں کی قبروں کو اونچا کریں تو نا جائز
مسلمان اپنے اولیا و صلحا کی قبروں کو اونچا کریں تو جائز

مشرکین حضرت ابراہیم اور حضرت اسمٰعیل کی بت بنا کر خانہ کعبہ میں رکھیں اور انسے تبرک حاصل کریں تو شرک
مسلمان اگر اولیا اور صلحا کے نشانات اور قبروں سے تبرک حاصل کریں تو عین توحید

مشرکین حضرت ابراہیم اور حضرت اسماعیل وغیرہ کو پکاریں اور انسے دعا کریں تو شرک
مسلمان یا علی مدد اور یا پیران پیر کہیں تو توحید

کرے غیر گر بت کی پوجا تو کافر
جو ٹھہرائے بیٹا خدا کا تو کافر
کہے آگ کو اپنا قبلہ تو کافر
کواکب میں مانے کرشمہ تو کافر
مگر مومنوں پر کشادہ ہیں راہیں
پرستش کریں شوق سے جس کی چاہیں

نبی کو جو چاہیں خدا کر دکھائیں
اماموں کا رتبہ نبی سے بڑھائیں
مزاروں پہ دن رات نذریں چڑھائیں
شہیدوں سے جا جا کے مانگیں دعائیں
نہ توحید میں کچھ خلل اس سے آئے
نہ اسلام بگڑے نہ ایمان جائے

وہ دین جس سے توحید پھیلی جہاں میں
ہوا جلوہ گر حق زمیں و زماں میں
رہا شرک باقی نا وہم و گماں میں
وہ بدلہ گیا آکے ہندوستاں میں
ہمیشہ سے اسلام تھا جس پہ نازاں
وہ دولت بھی آخر کھو بیٹے مسلماں

میرا صرف ایک چھوٹا سا سوال ہے
جو صاحب قبر اپنی قبر پر آنے والی آفت سے آگاہ نہیں اور بربادی کو روک نا سکیں
کیا وہ ہماری مشکلات حل کرسکتے ہیں؟؟
جو اپنی قبر پر لگنے والی آگ کو روکنے کی قدرت نا رکھیں
وہ ہمیں مشکلات سے کیسے نجات دلائیںگے؟؟؟

پھر ہم اس رب کائنات کو خالص کر کے کیوں نا پکاریں جسے نا نیند آتی ہے نا اونگھ
جو پوری کائنات کو سمبھالے ہووے ہے
جو زمین کی گہرائیوں میں موجود کیڑے کی بھی سنتا ہے وہ ہماری کیوں نا سنے گا؟؟؟
اللہ کے سوا ہم ایسی ہستیوں کو کیوں پکاریں جنھیں یہ بھی خبر نہیں کہ وہ کب اٹھاۓ جائیںگے
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[such bolo]

@Temojin

کیا اونچی قبروں کو برابر کرنے کا حکم فقط مشرکین کے لئے تھا؟؟
جی نہیں یہ حکم مسلمانوں کے لئے بھی تھا
اگر آج کے لوگ اسے نا مانیں تو نا مانیں صحابہ اسے مسلمانوں کے لئے بھی مانتے تھے

ایمان والے کے لئے ایک ہی صحیح روایت کافی ہے

مسلم شریف میں حضرت ثمامہ بن شفی ؓ کی روایت ہے وہ فرماتے ہیں کہ ہم حضرت فضالہ ابن عبید کے ساتھ ملک روم میں بردوس نامی جگہ میں تھے تو ہمارا ایک ساتھی فوت ہو گیا (تو ہم نے جنازہ پڑھکر اسے دفنا دیا ) تو حضرت فضالہ ؓ نے اسکی قبر کو زمین کے ساتھ برابرکرنے کا حکم دیا ۔ پھر فرمایا کہ
سمعت رسول اﷲ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم یامر بتسویتھا
(مسلم فی الجنائز)
میں نے نبی کریم صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم سے قبر کو زمین کے ساتھ برابر کرنے کا حکم سنا ۔

صحیح مسلم میں ابوالھیاج الاسدی ؓ کی روایت ہے فرماتے ہیں کہ حضرت علی ؓ نے مجھ سے کہا
الا ابعثک علی ما بعثنی علیہ رسول اﷲ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم الا تدع تمثالاً الاطمستہ ولا قبراً مشرفاً الا سویتہ
(مسلم فی الجنائز و ابو داؤد فی الجنائز و ترمذی )
کیا میں آپکو اس کام پر نہ بھیجوں جس کام پر مجھے رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم نے بھیجا تھا ؟
کہ آپ کسی تصویر کو نہ چھوڑیں مگر اسے مٹا دیں اور اونچی قبر دیکھیں تواسے زمین کے برابر کر دیں ۔
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[such bolo]

ان احادیث پر کون عمل کریگا؟؟؟
اور کون عمل کرتا ہے؟؟؟

صحیح مسلم میں حضرت جابر ؓسے روایت ہے وہ فرماتے ہیں
نہی رسول اﷲ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم عن تجصیص القبر وان یقعد علیہ و ان یبنی علیہ ونہی عن الکتابۃ علیہا
( مسلم )
نبی کریم صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم نے قبر پر چونا لگانے اور اور اس پر بیٹھنے اور اس پر عمارت بنانے سے منع کیا ہے اور اس پر کتبے لکھ کرلگانے سے بھی منع فرمایا ہے ۔


اسی طرح کی روایت امام ابو داؤد ؒ نے بھی ذکر کی ہے امام ابو دؤد ؒ حضرت جابر ؓ سے روایت کرتے ہیں ۔
ان رسول اﷲ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم نہی عن تجصیص القبور و ان یکتب علیہا
کہ رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم نے قبروں پر چونا لگانے او ران پر لکھنے سے منع کیا ہے ۔
امام ترمذی ؒ نے اس حدیث کو حسن صحیح کہا ہے ۔
(ترمذی فی الجنائز )


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[grow up]

oh bhai :astagh: koi khuda kaa khouf karoo apni baat manwanay kay leyay kaisi kaisi dalelain day rahay hoo jab ALLAH kay ghar yani masjid par bomb dhamaka hota hay ya aag lagai jati haay ya usay masmar keya jata hay tu :naooz: ALLAH us koo roknay key taqat nahi rakhta? beshak ALLAH he sab key mushkelat hal karta hay aur usi say madad mangani chaheyay lekin buzurganey dein key toheen kaa kya maqsad? agar bhai tum bhi meri tarha pak o hind say taluq rakhnay walay hoo tu tumhain too baqyoon key nisbat in sufya karam say zyada unseyat honi chaheyay kyunkay tumharay abao ajdad bhi ju kisi door mein sikh ya hindu(mushrakeen) hoon gay unhain bhi kisi sufi nay musalman kya hoo ga aur aaj tum unhein sufia ku judge kar rahay hoo. ALLAH tallah qurane pak mein farmatay hein yahadeon ku mukhatib kartay howay kaha jis ka mafhoom hay kay jab Muhammad pbuh is dunya mein nahi ayey thay tu tum un ka wasta day kar aur unhein(Muhammad pbuh) wasela bana kar mujh say duaein mangtay thay tu mein un koo manta tha aur ab ju woh tumharay darmyan hein too tum un ka inkar kar rahay hoo. tu iss ayat e mubarka say yeh wazeha hota hay kay wasela bana kar dua mangna jaiz hay. aur andhi taqleed kisi bhi firqay key najaiz.