جانوروں سے بھی بدتر نسل - An Article by Haroon ur Rasheed

moazzamniaz

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Raaz

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Re: جانوروں سے بھی بدتر نسل

Muazzam ! Did you notice the last lines of the middle pagraph , starting with Habeel Qabeel...just last lines...about muslim's behavior towards Quran..

And we have millions of Mulla , Mufti , but no scientist who could understand these clear things of Science...

Still now they are just talking about benefits of4 marriages...

The reason is lack of mental evolution...
 

Faiza

Moderator
Re: جانوروں سے بھی بدتر نسل

I need Glasses to read this :)

12 font size please
 

adnan78692

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: جانوروں سے بھی بدتر نسل

ye mullahs just apna pait paltey hain.. jahan inko rooti nazar aaye 4pese nazar aaein wahein fatwa laga dete hain..
 

Waseem

Moderator
Staff member
Re: جانوروں سے بھی بدتر نسل

Excellent column, wish someone could add these things in mullah's syllabus, jo khud momin banany se pehlay dosroun ko momin banany chalay hain.
 

Waseem

Moderator
Staff member
Re: جانوروں سے بھی بدتر نسل

[MENTION=9841]faiza[/MENTION], hope its fine for you now.

@all members,please use jang multimedia (http://ejang.jang.com.pk/) for posting columns its easy to read and you can post full column in one piece.
 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Re: جانوروں سے بھی بدتر نسل

Still there are lots of topics which are unaddressed but clear from the Quran...

Like the description of Hazrat Zulqarnain...his travel...what Allah is telling about his destination..

Gravity...it is there in Quran , but who will study it .. Mulla read only Talaq and Halala...

They read only Imam Ghazali and Shah Wali Ullah ..No doubt they were respectable and masters of their time... but there time is gone now..

How they could address x ray and ultra sound and nuke...it they have seen these things in their time....

No fresh thoughts are coming out from this community...Thats why people start hating them and Islam in consequences.
 

jahanzaibi

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: جانوروں سے بھی بدتر نسل

Bahi abb is ko koon batay kay physics,chemistry,biology hameen magrib say nahi milli balkay ya shooro hi muslim scientist nay kia tha.. baki raha science aur Islam
to jis waqat ya quran nazil hooa us waqat to science ka wojjod hi nahi tha is tarhan.. likin phir bhi muslims nay sari dunnya fatah ki aur izzat hasil ki...

Jis baat may muslims ki tarakki hay us tarraf koi bhi rehnumai nahi karta kion kay america us kay paisay nahi detta..

Mental Evolution ki waja say hum zalil nahi hain balkay hamari zillat ki waja .. Islam say durri aur Tark jihad hay.

Quran aur Hadith is say bhari hooi hain likin hum samjhna nahi chahtay.

Muazzam ! Did you notice the last lines of the middle pagraph , starting with Habeel Qabeel...just last lines...about muslim's behavior towards Quran..

And we have millions of Mulla , Mufti , but no scientist who could understand these clear things of Science...

Still now they are just talking about benefits of4 marriages...

The reason is lack of mental evolution...
 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Re: جانوروں سے بھی بدتر نسل

Bahi abb is ko koon batay kay physics,chemistry,biology hameen magrib say nahi milli balkay ya shooro hi muslim scientist nay kia tha.. baki raha science aur Islam
to jis waqat ya quran nazil hooa us waqat to science ka wojjod hi nahi tha is tarhan.. likin phir bhi muslims nay sari dunnya fatah ki aur izzat hasil ki...

Jis baat may muslims ki tarakki hay us tarraf koi bhi rehnumai nahi karta kion kay america us kay paisay nahi detta..

Mental Evolution ki waja say hum zalil nahi hain balkay hamari zillat ki waja .. Islam say durri aur Tark jihad hay.

Quran aur Hadith is say bhari hooi hain likin hum samjhna nahi chahtay.
Yes , but Quran se doori reason he. Islam se nahi..it is different thing...

Quran makes you Mujahid and realistic , wheare as Islam is captured by Mullahs and Quran goes in the shelfs...

Muslims did a lot in the beginning , but they were not enough and time was fast , others picked it and went very fast...

Allah Tala wants to be dug out his treasure of knowledge...Our Mullah are fighting that only deen is the Ilm, Maths and physics is not...

anyway read quran and find out what is meaning of Jihad...

Mulla use this word just for killing ...It is clearly described in Quran , the difference of Jihad and Qittal...
 

Ali-1234

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: جانوروں سے بھی بدتر نسل

wonder writing! but we do not like advise we like MASALA of Hamid Mir & Kamaran Khan...................
 

Malik495

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: جانوروں سے بھی بدتر نسل

kabhi b 5 unglian barabar nahi hua krtin...easiest thing nowadays or it is a kind of fashion.......start blaming ulemas and you will be proven educated.....do waqt ki roti khanay walay taat pr beth k Quran aur hadees ka dars denay walay new world order k baad iss qadar badnaam hoye k apnu se hi malaamaton ka samna hay....... qayamat ki nishanion men se aik nishani hy ilm ahista ahista utha lia jaye ga....iss daur k log pichlay daur k logon ko ***** malamat karain gay........ aaj sab kuch yehi ho raha hay.. pakistan ko banay 63 saal honay ko aye... yeh molvi mullah ka naam 9/11 k baad hi samnay kion aya...masjidon aur madarson ka yeh silsila to sadion se yun hi chala ata hay lakin .. pahlay angraiz ne hindustan men ulema-e-soo ko khareed kar kaee firqay banaye aur phir bhi wo kamyabi haasil nahi hoi jo 9/11 k baad new difintion of islam k anay k baad hoi.......kash koi samajh sakta....
aao mil kr ulema ko bura bhala kahain.. aao mil kr un pr malamaton aur ilzamaat k pahaar tore dain aao mil kr ik naye deen ki bunyad rakhain jis se kufr tum se raazi ho jaye.. jis se washington london aur ahle-e-maghrib tumhain apna bana lain .... aao k dunia ko bata dain k haan wakay hi hamaray dais men fasaad ki jarr corruption bayeemani nahi balkay chotay chotay madarson men Quran aur hadees ka sabak denay walay yeh ghareeb miskeen log hain jinhain aaj hr taraf se siwae malaamat k koi aik harf b hoslay ka nahi milta.....chalo k maghrib bula raha hay...
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
Re: جانوروں سے بھی بدتر نسل

Muazzam ! Did you notice the last lines of the middle pagraph , starting with Habeel Qabeel...just last lines...about muslim's behavior towards Quran..

And we have millions of Mulla , Mufti , but no scientist who could understand these clear things of Science...

Still now they are just talking about benefits of4 marriages...

The reason is lack of mental evolution...

اور هلاکو خان کے قبضے سے پہلے "علماء" (پته نهیں وه جاهل تهے یا عالم) اس بات پر بحث کر رهے تهے که " براک " حلال هے یا حرام
 
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Raaz

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Re: جانوروں سے بھی بدتر نسل

اور هلاکو خان کے قبضے سے پہلے "علماء" (پته نهیں وه جاهل تهے یا عالم) اس بات پر بحث کر رهے تهے که " کوا " حلال هے یا حرام
Actually they were talking about 'Buraq ' .. used for Meeraj...

Is Buraq halal or Haram ???

Halako Khan told them by killing , go to Allah Tala and ask .....
 

Abdul Allah

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: جانوروں سے بھی بدتر نسل

Muslims did a lot in the beginning , but they were not enough and time was fast , others picked it and went very fast...

Allah Tala wants to be dug out his treasure of knowledge...Our Mullah are fighting that only deen is the Ilm, Maths and physics is not...

I do not know whom you called Mullah
as I know MSC Physics person who used to be Islamic Scholar and deliver lecture
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
Re: جانوروں سے بھی بدتر نسل

Actually they were talking about 'Buraq ' .. used for Meeraj...

Is Buraq halal or Haram ???

Halako Khan told them by killing , go to Allah Tala and ask .....

Thanks for correction bro! JazAllah.
 

Abdul Allah

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: جانوروں سے بھی بدتر نسل

kabhi b 5 unglian barabar nahi hua krtin...easiest thing nowadays or it is a kind of fashion.......start blaming ulemas and you will be proven educated.....do waqt ki roti khanay walay taat pr beth k Quran aur hadees ka dars denay walay new world order k baad iss qadar badnaam hoye k apnu se hi malaamaton ka samna hay....... qayamat ki nishanion men se aik nishani hy ilm ahista ahista utha lia jaye ga....iss daur k log pichlay daur k logon ko ***** malamat karain gay........ aaj sab kuch yehi ho raha hay.. pakistan ko banay 63 saal honay ko aye... yeh molvi mullah ka naam 9/11 k baad hi samnay kion aya...masjidon aur madarson ka yeh silsila to sadion se yun hi chala ata hay lakin .. pahlay angraiz ne hindustan men ulema-e-soo ko khareed kar kaee firqay banaye aur phir bhi wo kamyabi haasil nahi hoi jo 9/11 k baad new difintion of islam k anay k baad hoi.......kash koi samajh sakta....
aao mil kr ulema ko bura bhala kahain.. aao mil kr un pr malamaton aur ilzamaat k pahaar tore dain aao mil kr ik naye deen ki bunyad rakhain jis se kufr tum se raazi ho jaye.. jis se washington london aur ahle-e-maghrib tumhain apna bana lain .... aao k dunia ko bata dain k haan wakay hi hamaray dais men fasaad ki jarr corruption bayeemani nahi balkay chotay chotay madarson men Quran aur hadees ka sabak denay walay yeh ghareeb miskeen log hain jinhain aaj hr taraf se siwae malaamat k koi aik harf b hoslay ka nahi milta.....chalo k maghrib bula raha hay...

Yes
and they love to talk against Ulema(mullah) and said that they have seprate deen from world
Magar zarorat parnay par Imam Masjid(who sometime is even not an Alim) k peechay bhaag rahy hotain hain.
as they have done some for what they accused Ulemas .
 

sdmuashr

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: جانوروں سے بھی بدتر نسل

Bismillah

Assalam o Alaikum,


  1. People like Haroon Rasheed have filled the hearts of youth with hatred for Ulema.
  2. When did Ulema say that Muslims should not study/progress in the field of science and Technology?
  3. How it can be proved that trade towers were destroyed by Muslims? Even if someone claims that he/she committed any particular criminal act, shouldn't there be a fair investigation for the sake of finding the truth?
  4. This Jahil Haroon Rasheed wrote that Quran forbids the Taqleed. Can some one tell this insane that Allah himself ordered all angels to bow before Prophet Adam (P.B.U.H) and all angels did what Allah commanded therefore the angels did taqleed but only Iblees denied to accept the order of Allah. Allah commanded all human beings to follow (do taqleed) his Prophets (P.B.U.H). And our prophet (P.B.U.H) told common Muslims (i.e. us) to follow him (P.B.U.H) and his Sahaba (:razi:) for guidance.
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  5. There are people who were born at the time of partition or just after partition. A number of such people always have problems with Ulemas because they never had the opportunity to be in the company of good/real Ulemas instead of this they studied at schools, universities with out a touch of good Islamic knowledge. These people have seen only the peak of British Empire, US, Russia, West since their birth and therefore all these people, on one hand, always admire western way of governance like socialism, communism, democracy and on the other hand criticize intensely the Sharia law and Ulemas.
  6. I request all of our readers on this forum please do some research so that you know in the past the more we were close to Islam in our private and combined (i.e society) lives, the more we excelled in the fields of Mathematics, Physics, Chemistry, Biology, Geography, Astronomy & Cosmology, literature, Engineering, state of the art warfare etc. Please visit these sites http://www.1001inventions.com/, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_inventions_in_medieval_Islam, http://articles.cnn.com/2010-01-29/world/muslim.inventions_1_hassani-inventions-muslim?_s=PM:WORLD, http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/magazine/17-06/st_islamtech, http://msmagazine.com/blog/blog/2011/01/28/muslim-mothers-of-invention/ etc.
  7. I would like to request all of the members of siasat.pk to read this book so that they know how much industrious Muslim Ulemas were and are. http://www.serveislam.com/webapps/si_dnnweb/Default.aspx?portalid=1&tabid=219&MediaDetailID=4308
  8. I would also like to request all members of siasat.pk to visit the following links so that they know that the Ulemas are fully aware of the demands of the current era and doing their utmost efforts for the sake betterment of Muslims. http://darsequran.com/, http://deeneislam.com/, http://deeneislam.com/articles_list.php?rParent=19, http://www.kulyatushariah.edu.pk/jrks/.
  9. Finally, you might have hear of this old saying
نیم حکیم خطرہ جان اور نیم ملا خطرہ ایمان

Therefore, beware of such columnist because they don't have the slightest understanding of Islam and therefore always speak against sharia law & Ulemas.
Also never, never neglect the greatness of the Muslim's heritage and civilization. Instead of criticizing Ulemas do something for Islam.
Think for a moment, if there had been no Ulemas in Pakistan or subcontinent would we be still Muslims. Although quidance is always from Allah but the means of this guidance in this era are only true Ulemas who follow the path of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) & his Companions (:razi:). Therefore, like every honorable and dignified person we must always honor the true Ulemas for their this great service to us.

More on Taqleed, please visit

http://darsequran.com/bhdbaloch/bhd...taqleedkihaisiyat/taqleed_01_14_10_part_1.ram
http://darsequran.com/bhdbaloch/bhd...aqleedkihaisiyat/taqleed_01_14_10_part_2.ram+
http://www.serveislam.com/webapps/si_dnnweb/Default.aspx?portalid=1&tabid=219&MediaDetailID=8309
http://www.serveislam.com/webapps/si_dnnweb/Default.aspx?portalid=1&tabid=219&MediaDetailID=7232
http://www.serveislam.com/webapps/si_dnnweb/Default.aspx?portalid=1&tabid=219&MediaDetailID=8249
http://www.serveislam.com/webapps/si_dnnweb/Default.aspx?portalid=1&tabid=219&MediaDetailID=8285
http://defendersofislam.com/BooksAndAudio/showportal.asp?txtSer=ABGHZ&Submit=Search
http://defendersofislam.com/BooksAndAudio/showportal.asp?txtSer=MOHAMMADI&Submit=Search

 
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Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
What is Taqleed (تقلید)?

Million Dollar word by Haroon Rasheed, Taqleed (تقلید).

Al-Khateeb al-Baghdadi (ra) defines Taqleed as,
"To accept an opinion without knowing the evidence" (al-Fiqhi wa'al-Mutafiqa)

Ibn Hazm (ra) says, "In reality Taqleed is to accept any other's words other than the messenger of Allah's (pbuh) without evidence. This description/definition is what the Muslim Ummah has agreed that this is what is Taqleed and the baselessness of this (concept) is proven". (Al-Ahkaam fi Usool)

Ibn Qudaamah (ra) says, "And this (Taqleed) in Fiqh terminology is to accept ones opinion without evidence. (Though) With this meaning, (to accept) taking into consideration the prophets (pbuh) saying or Ijma will not be called Taqleed". (Rawdata al-Naazar wa'janta al-Manaazar)

Imam Shafi'ee (ra) has been quoted by Imam Muzni as saying, "One should not make Taqleed of anyone except Rasoolullah (pbuh)". (Mukhtasar al-Muzni)


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