'امریکی تشدد بھلا نہیں سکتا'

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
انسانی حقوق کے علمبرداروں کے تھانہ کلچر کی داستانیں سنتا جا اور سمجھتا جا
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Lets assume if USA offer him a Visa today, will he deny this Visa despite he is tortured by USA government?
میں کیا کہہ سکتا ہوں

!آپ ہی کچھ روشنی ڈالیں امریکا اسے ویزا آفر کردے اور یہ قبول کرلے تو کیا اور نا کرے تو کیا
 

Okara

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
میں کیا کہہ سکتا ہوں

!آپ ہی کچھ روشنی ڈالیں امریکا اسے ویزا آفر کردے اور یہ قبول کرلے تو کیا اور نا کرے تو کیا
In my views, USA is super power not because of its torture or crimes against humanity but the leader in knowledge. USA has done more good than bad.
When Muslims were close to Islam which is only Deen emphasize on education we were leader. Only Islam forced its Army not to protect weaks, Innocent even crops and fruit trees.
 

Politically1981

MPA (400+ posts)
In my views, USA is super power not because of its torture or crimes against humanity but the leader in knowledge. USA has done more good than bad.
When Muslims were close to Islam which is only Deen emphasize on education we were leader. Only Islam forced its Army not to protect weaks, Innocent even crops and fruit trees.

Fair enough. USA isn’t super power solely because of its might but i don’t understand the logic of your question regarding USA visa. That guy is talking about it’s miseries and what he went through and that’s what you should be discussing. Was his torture legal or not or was it even human? Of course not.
 

Eyeaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Lets assume if USA offer him a Visa today, will he deny this Visa despite he is tortured by USA government?
What's the Point? You want to justify state-sponsored torture cells around the world. That was madness under the guise of revenge. Even any conscious american will not justify it.
 

Okara

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Fair enough. USA isn’t super power solely because of its might but i don’t understand the logic of your question regarding USA visa. That guy is talking about it’s miseries and what he went through and that’s what you should be discussing. Was his torture legal or not or was it even human? Of course not.
I wanted to tell that despite this person was wrongly prosecuted and was tortured but still he will consider USA.
Can any country in the world imagine to kidnap an American and prosecute her/him?
An American contractor killed people right in front of many witness in Pakistan but still our most powerful ISI chief drove him to Airport why?
For this might Americans sacrificed their past to secure future.
Its easy to curse sitting in front of computer but it needs at least generation to turn the tide.
Imam ul Ambia did all humanly possible in Badr before Allah sent his help. So success in this Dunia and Akhira is to follow Sunnah. Their is no shortcut in life. The 13 years of preaching can convince on 313 souls to fight but those were more powerful than 1000. Can we imagine to fight against our own relatives? Not easy so just imagine what kind of Eman of those 313 possessed while facing their own loved ones?
 

Okara

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
What's the Point? You want to justify state-sponsored torture cells around the world. That was madness under the guise of revenge. Even any conscious american will not justify it.
Please read my above statement. I am not justifying but telling despite they did wrong but who can stop them? Are we preparing for our future or will keep cursing choudhry while polishing his shoes?
 

Politically1981

MPA (400+ posts)
I wanted to tell that despite this person was wrongly prosecuted and was tortured but still he will consider USA.
Can any country in the world imagine to kidnap an American and prosecute her/him?
An American contractor killed people right in front of many witness in Pakistan but still our most powerful ISI chief drove him to Airport why?
For this might Americans sacrificed their past to secure future.
Its easy to curse sitting in front of computer but it needs at least generation to turn the tide.
Imam ul Ambia did all humanly possible in Badr before Allah sent his help. So success in this Dunia and Akhira is to follow Sunnah. Their is no shortcut in life. The 13 years of preaching can convince on 313 souls to fight but those were more powerful than 1000. Can we imagine to fight against our own relatives? Not easy so just imagine what kind of Eman of those 313 possessed while facing their own loved ones?

Man, stop writing essays. I am just trying to understand what made you think he would still consider going to USA if offered a visa? Aren’t you a bit presumptuous and judgemental?
 

Okara

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Man, stop writing essays. I am just trying to understand what made you think he would still consider going to USA if offered a visa? Aren’t you a bit presumptuous and judgemental?
He was citizen of which country when abducted? And what was done by his state to protect him?
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
In my views, USA is super power not because of its torture or crimes against humanity but the leader in knowledge. USA has done more good than bad.
When Muslims were close to Islam which is only Deen emphasize on education we were leader. Only Islam forced its Army not to protect weaks, Innocent even crops and fruit trees.
کوئی بھی یہ نہیں کہتا کے امریکا اس کی بدمعاشی کی وجہ سے سپر پاور ہے یہی کہتے کے وہ سپر پاور ہونے کی وجہ سے بدمعاش بنا ہوا ہے
لکھ دیاہے not to دوسرے جملے میں غلطی سے​
 

WatanDost

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
امریکہ ایک لعنتی سرزمین ہے اور جتنا ظلم ایک امریکہ نے انسانیت پر کیا ہے اتنا ظلم پچھلے ٢٠٠ سال میں تمام ممالک نے مل کر نہیں کیا
 

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