Yousaf is Dead and Can Go to Hell: Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid!

Changgaizi

Banned
Khilafat e Rashidah aur SHAREEAT ki baat karnay walay is Maloon o Mardood, SHAATIM E RASOOL SAW, GUSTAAKH E RASOOL SAW, ZAID ZAMAN HAMID KAZZABI say koi yay poochay kay kiya iski DAARHI........... NABI E PAAK, KHATMUL MURSALEEN, NABI E AAKHIRUZZAMAN, HAZRAT MOHAMMAD E MUSTAFA SAW ki ** SHAREEAT ** kay mutabiq hay????????????????????????????????????????????
 

Changgaizi

Banned
I have never seen Zaid Hamid Speaking against Islam, but always against regimes like India,Isreal and US and whose involvement in various areas of Pakistan has been a known reality. Zaid Hamid was saying all those long before they even arrived Pakistan and has been warning Pakistan. So i must say that credit for this should be given to Zaid Hamid. Geo news never did a program on Zaid hamid until he accused it of being part of the international forces, so i guess propagandas against zaid Hamid now interests Geo as well. Geo must not Propaganda against ZH but should take up the issue in courts(as they said they are doing) and let the courts decide the outcome.

............ Bhai MIAFRIDI............. yay YAHUDIYON, EESAIYON aur HINDUON kay AGENDAY per kaam kar raha hay........... choonkay jin logon nay isay ISLAAM ki AAHINI DEEWAAR main NAQAB lugaanay ka mazmoom kaam diya hay who yay baat achchi tarah jaantay hain kay PAKISTAN main MAZHAB sub kisi bhi doosray falsafay aur nazaryay say ziyadah taqatwar hay aur maazi main yahan communism, liberalism waghairag buri tarah FAIL ho chukay hain............... lehaza PAKISTAN aur ISLAAM ko nuqsaan ponhchaanay aur apni jagah bunaanay kay liyay MUNAAFIQANAH tor per ISLAAM AUR PAAKISTAN say MOHABBAT ka DHONG RACHAANAA ZAROORI hay........... Zara apnay dil aur zameer ko tatoliyay aur phir bataaiyay kay yay KAZZABI waqayaee sahee keh raha hay??????????????????????????
 

Changgaizi

Banned
I would like to Thank Zaid Bhai for doing a WONDERFUL job. He has played a pivotal role in exposing both the External Enemies and the Internal Hypocrites on EVERY FORUM, be it Media, Politics, Islamic Personalities and even on Siasat.pk (bigsmile)

A standing ovation to a great Mujahid !! (clap)(clap)
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.................. ZID ZAMAN HAMID is a KAZZABi and a Murtid........... He is also a SHAATIM E RASOOL SAW and a GUSTAAKH E RASOOL saw........... CHUND AQL kay andhdhay isay FOLLOW kar rahay hain jaisay log BAWASEER kay MAREEZ ko jo yay kehtaa thaa kay usay MAAHWAARI AATI hay........... Naoozo Billaah Apna NABI maantay hain......... Allaah ST humaray eemaan ki hifaazat aur humara khatimaa eeman per farmaa......... who eemaan jis main teray piyaray HABIB saw, KHATMUL MURSALEEN AUR NABI E AAKHIRUZZAMAN hain aur tu wahdahoo laa shareek hay.......... Aameen
 

Changgaizi

Banned
I do not get it why the SIASAT.PK is PROMOTING THIS KAZZABI??????????????????????????????????:angry_smile::angry_smile::angry_smile::angry_smile::angry_smile::angry_smile::angry_smile:
 

miafridi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
............ Bhai MIAFRIDI............. yay YAHUDIYON, EESAIYON aur HINDUON kay AGENDAY per kaam kar raha hay........... choonkay jin logon nay isay ISLAAM ki AAHINI DEEWAAR main NAQAB lugaanay ka mazmoom kaam diya hay who yay baat achchi tarah jaantay hain kay PAKISTAN main MAZHAB sub kisi bhi doosray falsafay aur nazaryay say ziyadah taqatwar hay aur maazi main yahan communism, liberalism waghairag buri tarah FAIL ho chukay hain............... lehaza PAKISTAN aur ISLAAM ko nuqsaan ponhchaanay aur apni jagah bunaanay kay liyay MUNAAFIQANAH tor per ISLAAM AUR PAAKISTAN say MOHABBAT ka DHONG RACHAANAA ZAROORI hay........... Zara apnay dil aur zameer ko tatoliyay aur phir bataaiyay kay yay KAZZABI waqayaee sahee keh raha hay??????????????????????????

Chalo aek chota sa sawal hai. Oska jawab chahiye mujhe.

ZH kazzabi hai, Aur jhoot Murtad hai. Aur agar woh yeh sab nai hai toh Allah ap ko kafir kar de. Ap is baat per Ameen keh de Toh maan lunga. Reply must karna.
 

Respect

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Zaid Hamid is a good Muslim, he loves Pakistan that is for sure , however I feel he does have too much fascination with Kashmir and does not see the wrongs of army much. But overall he is a cool person
 

Respect

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
................. HE is a MURTID............. and a KAZZABI.............. a SHAATIM E RASOOL SAW.............. a GUSTAAKH E RASOOL SAW...............:angry_smile::angry_smile::angry_smile::angry_smile::angry_smile::angry_smile::angry_smile:

I disagree with you I think he love our beloved prophet pbuh a lot, and believes that our beloved prophet pbuh is the final messenger of Allah. :):):)
 

Heart

Councller (250+ posts)
Afridi sahab, aap ki is baat say mujhay Surah Aal-e-Imran kee 61st ayat yaad aagaye.

فَمَنْ حَاجَّكَ فِيهِ مِن بَعْدِ مَا جَاءَكَ مِنَ الْعِلْمِ فَقُلْ تَعَالَوْا نَدْعُ أَبْنَاءَنَا وَأَبْنَاءَكُمْ وَنِسَاءَنَا وَنِسَاءَكُمْ وَأَنفُسَنَا وَأَنفُسَكُمْ ثُمَّ نَبْتَهِلْ فَنَجْعَل لَّعْنَتَ اللَّهِ عَلَى الْكَاذِبِينَ

Then whoever argues with you (O Muhammad - SAW) about it after [this] knowledge has come to you - say,

"Come, let us call our sons and your sons, our women and your women, ourselves and yourselves, then supplicate earnestly [together] and invoke the curse of Allah upon the liars [among us]."

Chalo aek chota sa sawal hai. Oska jawab chahiye mujhe.

ZH kazzabi hai, Aur jhoot Murtad hai. Aur agar woh yeh sab nai hai toh Allah ap ko kafir kar de. Ap is baat per Ameen keh de Toh maan lunga. Reply must karna.
 

miafridi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Afridi sahab, aap ki is baat say mujhay Surah Aal-e-Imran kee 61st ayat yaad aagaye.

فَمَنْ حَاجَّكَ فِيهِ مِن بَعْدِ مَا جَاءَكَ مِنَ الْعِلْمِ فَقُلْ تَعَالَوْا نَدْعُ أَبْنَاءَنَا وَأَبْنَاءَكُمْ وَنِسَاءَنَا وَنِسَاءَكُمْ وَأَنفُسَنَا وَأَنفُسَكُمْ ثُمَّ نَبْتَهِلْ فَنَجْعَل لَّعْنَتَ اللَّهِ عَلَى الْكَاذِبِينَ

Then whoever argues with you (O Muhammad - SAW) about it after [this] knowledge has come to you - say,

"Come, let us call our sons and your sons, our women and your women, ourselves and yourselves, then supplicate earnestly [together] and invoke the curse of Allah upon the liars [among us]."

The verse is clear as crystal but i didn't get which side are you supporting?:)
 

Heart

Councller (250+ posts)
:) Hahahah.

Actually at the moment, with the evidences I have in front of me, I find no reason for calling ZH with the titles that Mr. Halaku (I mean Changaizi) has referred.

Whatever the other side is presenting against him is not evidence but just their suspicions - most of it which ZH has dispelled. Why his wife divorced, why emaad spoke against him, why he is taking money from ISI, why does he not call yousuf a kazzab/kaafir when no court has declared him kaafir/kazzab, why this and why that? Wehem Ka Tou Ab Koee Ilaaj Nahin Hay. They want to decide against him without listening to him.


The verse is clear as crystal but i didn't get which side are you supporting?:)
 

miafridi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
:) Hahahah.

Actually at the moment, with the evidences I have in front of me, I find no reason for calling ZH with the titles that Mr. Halaku (I mean Changaizi) has referred.

Whatever the other side is presenting against him is not evidence but just their suspicions - most of it which ZH has dispelled. Why his wife divorced, why emaad spoke against him, why he is taking money from ISI, why does he not call yousuf a kazzab/kaafir when no court has declared him kaafir/kazzab, why this and why that? Wehem Ka Tou Ab Koee Ilaaj Nahin Hay. They want to decide against him without listening to him.

Only Allah knows reality and The fact that some people will call others Murtad,Liar,Kazzab with 100% certainty isn't a deed of a true muslim(unless they are the prophet who had the knowledge of the unseen). He will research first, get to know the other better and then say something with 80% to 90% certainty. But things around here are completely changed. People seem to think of themselves smart and will declare anyone Murtad,Liar,Kazzab without proper investigation and the Sharai Rules.

We have learnt in Tableeghi conversations all along that people like Imam Bukhari would use to travel for months to confirm a single saying of the Prophet Muhammad(P.B.U.H) and would not do things out of common sense because common sense may sometimes fail as well. They always wanted to confirm the saying from reliable sources to be able to place them in their book with 100% certainty that they were not adding something new to the Deen.
 

Changgaizi

Banned
Chalo aek chota sa sawal hai. Oska jawab chahiye mujhe.

ZH kazzabi hai, Aur jhoot Murtad hai. Aur agar woh yeh sab nai hai toh Allah ap ko kafir kar de. Ap is baat per Ameen keh de Toh maan lunga. Reply must karna.
.................. Bhai MIAFRIDI............. main aap kay posts parhta rehtaa hoon.......... aap ki baton main daleel aur wazn hota hay........aur aap intahaaee samajhdaari ki baatain kartay hain.................. BHAI AGAR AAP MALOON ZAID ZAMAN HAMID KO AIK SACHCHAA PAKKAA MUSALMAAN SAMAJHTAY HAIN TO AAP ZAROOR SAMAJHYAY........... IS BAAT PER HUM AFSOS AUR AAP KAY LIYAY DUAA HI KAR SAKTAY HAIN................. MAIN US KAZZABI KAY LIAY APNAA DEEN EEMAAN KHARAB NAHEEN KAR SAKTAA ............ AGAR MAIN GHALAT HOON TO ALLAAH MUJHAY MOAAF FARMAAY AUR HIDAYAT ATAA FARMAAY............... AUR MERA KHATIMAH EEMAAN PER FARMAAY................. AAMEEN.
 

Changgaizi

Banned
Only Allah knows reality and The fact that some people will call others Murtad,Liar,Kazzab with 100% certainty isn't a deed of a true muslim(unless they are the prophet who had the knowledge of the unseen). He will research first, get to know the other better and then say something with 80% to 90% certainty. But things around here are completely changed. People seem to think of themselves smart and will declare anyone Murtad,Liar,Kazzab without proper investigation and the Sharai Rules.

We have learnt in Tableeghi conversations all along that people like Imam Bukhari would use to travel for months to confirm a single saying of the Prophet Muhammad(P.B.U.H) and would not do things out of common sense because common sense may sometimes fail as well. They always wanted to confirm the saying from reliable sources to be able to place them in their book with 100% certainty that they were not adding something new to the Deen.
................. It is not calling everyone MURTID aur KAZZABI............... if after seeing everything against ZZH .......... your PERSONAL knowledge of eemaan ACCEPT it that he is a TRUE MUSLIM ............. Then I can only feel sorry on it.........................
 

Changgaizi

Banned
:) Hahahah.

Actually at the moment, with the evidences I have in front of me, I find no reason for calling ZH with the titles that Mr. Halaku (I mean Changaizi) has referred.

Whatever the other side is presenting against him is not evidence but just their suspicions - most of it which ZH has dispelled. Why his wife divorced, why emaad spoke against him, why he is taking money from ISI, why does he not call yousuf a kazzab/kaafir when no court has declared him kaafir/kazzab, why this and why that? Wehem Ka Tou Ab Koee Ilaaj Nahin Hay. They want to decide against him without listening to him.
.............. I do not think that this funny to call me HALAKU instead of CHANGGAIZI................. NOW I have to correct you that it is forbidden in Islaam to call people with names (NAAM BIGAAR KAR BOLNA) and also CHANGGAIZ KHAN WAS THE GRAND FATHER OF HALAKU AND THE HALAKU WAS THE GRAND SON OF CHANGGAIZ KHAN.............. you also decreased my position in the HISTORY............. I am not sure if you did this in the LOVE of ZZH MALOON????????????????????????????
 

Sohraab

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
I do not get it why the SIASAT.PK is PROMOTING THIS KAZZABI??????????????????????????????????:angry_smile::angry_smile::angry_smile::angry_smile::angry_smile::angry_smile::angry_smile:

there is also a section of Munkar e hadees Javed ahmad ghamidi in Islamic section at siasat.pk ;)
 

miafridi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
.................. Bhai MIAFRIDI............. main aap kay posts parhta rehtaa hoon.......... aap ki baton main daleel aur wazn hota hay........aur aap intahaaee samajhdaari ki baatain kartay hain.................. BHAI AGAR AAP MALOON ZAID ZAMAN HAMID KO AIK SACHCHAA PAKKAA MUSALMAAN SAMAJHTAY HAIN TO AAP ZAROOR SAMAJHYAY........... IS BAAT PER HUM AFSOS AUR AAP KAY LIYAY DUAA HI KAR SAKTAY HAIN................. MAIN US KAZZABI KAY LIAY APNAA DEEN EEMAAN KHARAB NAHEEN KAR SAKTAA ............ AGAR MAIN GHALAT HOON TO ALLAAH MUJHAY MOAAF FARMAAY AUR HIDAYAT ATAA FARMAAY............... AUR MERA KHATIMAH EEMAAN PER FARMAAY................. AAMEEN.

Bhai jan, Main ne yeh kabhi nai kaha k zaid hamid aek sacha musalman hai aur hamay osay follow karna chahiye. May toh yeh keh raha tah k os ne aaj tak islam k khilaf koi baat nai ki hai jis say agar yeh sabit nai hota k woh islam k hami hai toh kam say kam yeh toh sabit hota hi hai k woh ab tak islam k khilaf nai hai aur agar future may aesi koi baat keh de jo islam k khilaf ho toh tab hamay ikhtilaf hona chahiye unsay but filhal toh aesa koi maamla nazar nai aatah.

Aur may is baat k bhi khilaaf hu k log apnay aap say fatway kyu laga rahay hai? Its a wrong attitude. Islam forbids it. aur agar islam kisi par kufar ka fatwa laganay say mana karta hai, kissi news ko confirm kiye baghair toh phr hamay kissi ko Murtad aur Kafir nai kehna chahiye. Han hum logo ko khabardar kar saktay hai k woh agar meethi baatay karta hai toh oskay jaansay may na parhay kyu k oski shaksiyat agar gandi nai hai toh saaf bhi nai hai. Lakin osko kafir kehna gher islami fehal hai unless we have sufficient proof to prove it.
 

Chastizer

Councller (250+ posts)
................. It is not calling everyone MURTID aur KAZZABI............... if after seeing everything against ZZH .......... your PERSONAL knowledge of eemaan ACCEPT it that he is a TRUE MUSLIM ............. Then I can only feel sorry on it.........................

Aik Aqal kay baat ka ilaan:

Aik Takfeeri ya dozkhi kut.tay ko samjhaana oont ko rakshay mein bithaanay say ziyaada mushkil hay (yeh amaara sunehra qol hay)

Waisay aaj Haram Charbi kay Drum ko Laal topi walay nay na deen ka chora na duniya ka(yapping)
 

karachiwala

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Hey last night I saw the whole program with Mubashir Luqman and I did not see lal topi wala admitting or saying the same words mention in the headline of this post. In fact even when asked lal topi productions repeatedly to say if he yusuf said those words would you consider him to be kafir but he would not admit and kep asking for a shaiya court to declare yusuf kazzab then onkly would he accept and what proof is there that he would accept even the sharia court? He considers himself tobe absolute authority in everything.
 

Heart

Councller (250+ posts)
Allah Maaf Karay Mera Koee Intention Aap Ka Naam Bigarna Nahin. Halaku Bhi Ushi Kee Nasal Ka Banda Hay. Sirf Halaku Kay Bajaye Aap Ka Halaku Ka Baap Ya Shayad Dada Kehna Chahye Tha - Bohot Maazirat Huzoor.

It is quite strange that you find naam bigar kar bolna as a serious crime, whereas your labeling of walad uz zina atleast has no source - this is a serious bohtaan. In addition, with the serious opposing evidence that is available about ZZH - you still call him a Kazzab, A Maloon, A Shatim-e-Rasul, A Gustakh-e-Rasool, and A Kaafir - Changaizi Sahab, zara ghussa side par rakho aur aqal ko istemal karo - Ghussay ka asar bhi Sharaab kee tarha ka hota hay - Dono Aqal Ko Zail Kar Daytee Hein.

.............. I do not think that this funny to call me HALAKU instead of CHANGGAIZI................. NOW I have to correct you that it is forbidden in Islaam to call people with names (NAAM BIGAAR KAR BOLNA) and also CHANGGAIZ KHAN WAS THE GRAND FATHER OF HALAKU AND THE HALAKU WAS THE GRAND SON OF CHANGGAIZ KHAN.............. you also decreased my position in the HISTORY............. I am not sure if you did this in the LOVE of ZZH MALOON????????????????????????????
 

Heart

Councller (250+ posts)
O Bhai Khuda Kay Liye Ab Lakeer Kay Fakeer Na Banoun. Tum Log Ye Bol Day Kay "Mein Na Maanoun"

Hey last night I saw the whole program with Mubashir Luqman and I did not see lal topi wala admitting or saying the same words mention in the headline of this post. In fact even when asked lal topi productions repeatedly to say if he yusuf said those words would you consider him to be kafir but he would not admit and kep asking for a shaiya court to declare yusuf kazzab then onkly would he accept and what proof is there that he would accept even the sharia court? He considers himself tobe absolute authority in everything.
 

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