oh, and Pakistani army establishment in the 70s and 80s was what... muhajir??
Was it Punjabi establishment? Who told u that it is Punjab who takes all the decisions. Apne liye 1 Kala Bagh Dam tou le nae ska Punjab aaj tak inn blackmailers se. Punjab hai kiss baagh ki mooli?
Punjab ka naam kutta rjkha hua hai bhai tum logon ne warna haqeeqat ye hai k Punjabis ne kabhe anti-Pakistan baat nae ki. ye baat hamesha dusre provinces se aati hai.
Orya Maqbool Jan replied to Nawab AKbar Bugti once when he said b4 him that the Punjabis are sent here to rule us. His reply as that when a Punjabi S.H.O. in Balochistan beats a scoundrel in Balochistan, he thinks atleast a hundred times k kahin koi Baloch na dekh le but Punjab mei wo bagher dekhay jo merzi kerta hai or koi puchhnay wala nahjin hota.
And Baloch separatists, yes, a general CLEMENCY has been demanded. Meaning the separatists will be eventually pardoned and brought into mainstream!
u know what the main difference between u and us is? Whenever we find ourselves on the wrong side, we hange our side. And u dont do that even then. Punjabis were unawre of what was happening in Balochistan. When this issue was highlighted and that was highlighted mainly by the same journalists who r often rejected for being Punjabi. And the people here started to change their minds. It is the free media that made us aware as a nation, as there were exceptions in the past as well.
virtually *everyone* is willing to 'baksh' their ghaddari. Why do you think we are asking to halt the military operation?
Dont' the *majority* of Baloch sardars have connections with the separatists one way or another? Aren't we willing to look PAST that and be friends again with them??
Yes. It is the best political move available. Any student of "Conflict Management" (and I m 1) will tell u that by accepting the demands u can disarm the opponent. MAi tou pehle din se kehta hun k Akbar Bugti ya koi bhe shax agar Ghaddar tha tou y didnt u disarm him by accepting his logical demands. What he was demanding was a royalty 4 Sui gas. Give him what he deserves and he wont have an issue to fight for. Punjabi ki 1 mash'hoor kahaavat hai,"Larai hosh naal lari dee aey' josh naal ni". That is quite simple version of Punjabi. So I dont think I have 2 translate it. Sara maza kharab ho jaega.
you don't want to repeat the mistakes of 71.
We were not the ones who made mistakes in 71. It was one-unit so u have to share an equal burden. Most importantly, the larai b/w East and West Pakistan is a very broad topic but to make u aware of the fact that it was not Punjab that they were fighting against but the real and hardcore issue b/w the 2 concerned parties from Day-1 was "urdu" against "Bengali" not "Punjabi" against "bebgali"
If India is involved in Baloch separatism, then why are you blaming Musharraf and Pakistan army alone?
They have to be blamed dude bcuz it was their responsibility to ensure Zero_foreign intervention in the most sensitive area of the world. Musharraf ruled this country for five years and most importantly he faced absolutely no opposition in the first seven years of his regime as the king of this State. We cannot shift the blame entirely on Musharraf but he shares a lot. Pakistan army is presant there from day-1. They have 2 be blamed more than India. They were unable to take care of their own land whereas the Indians were able 2 perform even in their enemy's territory. Who is more to b blamed. Indian tou hain he kuttay. Un se ache ki umeed rakhna tou pagalpan he hai. Meri tanqeed islye in faujion k ooper hai.
May be India is funding separatism, and it won't matter if Bugti was alive or not. Seriously, if Baluchistan was this serious an issue, they would have found a MARTYR anyway!
So Musharraf thought "well' they can find a martyr any way. Then y not I do it and make it easier for them. It will fulfill my lust and Zionist agenda at the same time." And he did that. huh?
(this doesn't absolve Musharraf of murder anyway, I hope he gets hanged for it, along with accomplices).
Thats good.
MQM has even a PUNJABI senator now. This shows they have COME A LONG WAY!
yet the haters are stuck in the past, not willing to accept the new reality!
Wah je wah, jab marzi history nikaal kay baith gaee, jub marzi lapait kay rakh dee..!!
as I said, you guys are stuck in a time warp!
Maine ye baat islye ki thi qk aap ne history jka hawaala diya. Or aap he ko support krne waley Itsnotme ne bhe.
Baluch leaders and separatists ko tum sur pay bithatay ho..
aur jo MQM mainstream mein shaamil hona chahey usko ghaddar kehtay ho?
MQM mainstream mei uss waqt tak nae a sakti jab tak wo apne purane paapon ka "priashchit" nae ker laiti. I replied in this fassion to soothe the MQM lovers :lol:
That means that somewhere at back of ur minds u know that what I m saying is quite right. U r a separatist movement.
time-warp dude, time-warp![/quote]