Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Previous WikiLeaks news were just selective pieces of information selected by few Newspapers. Now WikiLeaks has released all the document for every one and lets see what news information they will bring about Pakistani Politicians establishment etc.



Following website can be used to easily search & find cables

one can download the full archive using following torrent

Use 7zip to unzip the file

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Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
لو جی شروع ھو جاؤ .

ایم کیوایم کے پاس ہزاروں کی تعداد میں مسلح لوگ ہیں

3. (S) MQM\'s armed members, known as \"Good Friends,\" are the largest non-governmental armed element in the city. The police estimate MQM has ten thousand active armed members and as many as twenty-five thousand armed fighters in reserve. This is compared to the city\'s thirty-three thousand police officers. The party operates through its 100 Sector Commanders, who take their orders directly from the party leader, Altaf Hussain, who lives in exile in the United Kingdom. The Sector Commanders plan and monitor the activities of the armed elements. MQM\'s detractors claim these armed men are involved in extortion, assassination of political rivals, shootings at campaign rallies, and the murder of people from other ethnic communities.


Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Seems like some division exists in MQM and not everyone in MQM believe in violence except Altaf.

Following cables are related to May 12 massacre

"The press and some of our contacts are reporting that Sattar, whom we have generally found to be a reasonable if voluble man, is deeply frustrated with decisions emanating from the party\'s London headquarters. We have heard from various contacts that Sattar opposed going ahead with May 12\'s rally, but that Hussain overruled him. The outcome of this weekend\'s leadership meeting could be a sign of the future direction of the MQM"


Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
-واہ جی واہ لگتا ہے تحریک انصاف والوں نے مسلم لیگ
ن کو منافق لیگ کا خطاب صیح دیا ہے
ملاحظہ فرمائیں یہ تازہ تازہ وکی لیک

مسلم لیگ-ن ٢٠٠٧ کے بائیکاٹ کا کوئی ارادہ نہیں رکھتی تاہم ظاہری طور پر بائیکاٹ کا شور مچانے گی

SUMMARY: According to a close confidant of Nawaz Sharif, the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) does not/not intend to boycott elections but will continue publicly and privately to threaten to do so in order to extract concessions from the government by insisting on the selection of a new, impartial chief Election Commissioner and the postponement of elections scheduled for January 8 to March 2008. In addition, Nawaz refuses to reconcile with the senior PML-Q leadership, hopes to see himself as the next Prime Minister, his brother Shahbaz as Punjab Chief Minister, and plans to constitutionally remove President Pervez Musharraf from office in cooperation with the PPP if the two parties combined have a two/thirds majority of seats in the next National Assembly. Euphoric over Nawaz\'s return, PML-N officials clearly are exaggerating their electoral prospects, but it is telling that Musharraf\'s own party leader already is courting Nawaz


Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Our and USA goals for Pakistan Foreign policy are on same page - Nawaz Shareef.

. (C) After railing against Musharraf as the cause of all of the problems in Pakistan, Nawaz and Nisar emphasized to Boucher that during Nawaz\'s two terms as Prime Minister in the 1990s he was a reliable ally of the United States. They cited their support for Operation Desert Storm in 1990, reigning in militant groups and embarking on policies to improve relations with India. Aside from the judges\' restoration issue and the future of Musharraf, they claimed the Pakistan Muslim League platform and United States foreign policy goals in Pakistan are on the same page. Boucher agreed that there was certainly a commonality of interests between the two.


Senator (1k+ posts)
Wikileaks about Imran Khan..
"Imran Khan sticks to his principles" title of wikileak cable

Summary: PolCouns and PolOff November 27 met PTI leader Khan at
his Islamabad farm. Sporting a pressed white shalwar kameez
and a vintage Rolex watch, Khan was characteristically
charismatic. He stated flatly that he was not going to
participate in the upcoming elections out of \"solidarity\"
with the lawyers movement.Imran Khan predicted any coalition government
formed after the election would be short-lived and suggested
that Pakistan Muslim League-N (PML-N) leader Nawaz Sharif
should boycott now to bolster his future chances"

I'm now 100% sure of Imran Khan's loyalty towards Pakistan and believe that he is really honest..

Nawaz Sharif has again got busted by the new wikileaks..He is really a munafiq.


Senator (1k+ posts)
WikiLeaks releases entire archive of U.S. embassy cables

London (CNN) -- WikiLeaks threw open the doors Friday to its archive of more than a quarter million secret U.S. diplomatic cables, unfiltered and unedited, exposing and possibly endangering confidential diplomatic sources.
The website made the controversial decision after losing control of the documents in a series of blunders.
WikiLeaks supporters posted the entire encrypted archive on the internet late last year. Separately, David Leigh, the investigative editor of the Guardian newspaper, formerly one of Wikileaks media partners, published the password to unlock the archive in his book "Inside WikiLeaks: Julian Assange's War on Secrecy".
Together, both pieces of information, unlocked the full trove of U.S. diplomatic cables, accessible to anyone on the web.
But WikiLeaks' decision to open its archive is likely to bring the cables to a much wider audience -- and has already sparked criticism that it will put people at risk.
A brief search through the cables shows that documents have not been redacted in any way. The names and other details of confidential diplomatic sources are on full display, despite being labelled with the instruction "strictly protect", including cables classified as "secret" or "confidential."
The Guardian, the New York Times, Der Spiegel and El Pais, four of WikiLeaks' former media partners, condemned the release.
In a joint statement they said: "We deplore the decision of WikiLeaks to publish the unredacted State Department cables, which may put sources at risk.
"Our previous dealings with WikiLeaks were on the clear basis that we would only publish cables which had been subjected to a thorough editing and clearance process.
"We will continue to defend our collaborative publishing endeavour. We cannot defend the needless publication of the complete data -- indeed, we are united in condemning it. Today's decision to publish by Julian Assange was his, and his alone."
Reporters Without Borders announced late Thursday it was suspending a WikiLeaks "mirror site" because of concerns over potential risks to sources.
In an editorial, it wrote that on launching the mirror site late last year, Reporters Without Borders "said it defended 'the free flow of information online and the principle of the protection of sources, without which investigative journalism cannot exist.'
"As the protection of sources is now in question, Reporters Without Borders has decided to suspend the site pending further clarification."
WikiLeaks posted Friday on Twitter: "Shining a light on 45 years of U.S. 'diplomacy', it is time to open the archives forever." The organization also gave full instructions on how to download all 251,287 cables.
WikiLeaks appealed for members of the public to "crowdsource" the cables and publish their findings on Twitter under the hashtag #wlfind. Crowdsourcing is the act of outsourcing tasks to an undefined, large group through an public call -- in this case to publish parts of the cables.
The reason, according to a statement posted by WikiLeaks on Twitter: "The entire world press does not have enough resources and there are substantial biases."
U.S. State Department Spokeswoman Victoria Nuland told CNN Thursday: "WikiLeaks did advise us of the impending release of information and of its intention to continue to release classified documents.
"We have made clear our views and concerns about illegally disclosed classified information and the continuing risk to individuals and national security that such releases cause.
"WikiLeaks has, however, ignored our requests not to release or disseminate any U.S. documents it may possess and has continued its well-established pattern of irresponsible, reckless, and frankly dangerous actions. We are not cooperating with them."


Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
These WikiLeaks have no impact on the current lot of corrupt politiciansut. Should a jism Faroosh Fahisha mind if U call her Jism Faroosh... .... .... OooooooH. She might have some shame left in her... ... .. ... But the politicians don't have.


Prime Minister (20k+ posts)

Isn't this thread related to Pakistani politics? Will it not be better to move it to main siasi discussion section.



Senator (1k+ posts)
Wikileak ABout Imran Khan:

Imran yet again proves his honesty..Where everyone else including Nawaz ,Kiyani ,Zardari and Asfandyar wali are making US happy by telling them that they will agree to any terms that US will put forward,Imran Khan was vocal against US policies and criticized US imperialism right infront of them..

Summary: 1. (C) Summary: On January 29, a congressional delegation led
by Representative Stephen Lynch met with Imran Khan, a former
professional cricket player who heads the Pakistan
Tehreek-e-Insaf (\"Law and Justice\") party, at Khan\'s
residence in the hills overlooking Rawal Lake on the
outskirts of Islamabad. The meeting\'s picturesque setting
belied Khan\'s often pointed and critical statements on U.S.
policy, which he characterized as dangerous and in need of
change. His litany of criticisms ranged from accusations of
U.S. failure to support democracy in Pakistan to drone
operations being a driving force of militancy and
radicalization. Khan urged the U.S. to seek out \"alternative
points of views\" because the GOP can not be trusted to give
it an accurate assessment of the real terrorist threat in
Pakistan. He also called on the U.S. to engage local tribes
to deal with the Taliban and other militant forces, and
argued that the U.S. will have to scale back its operations
in Afghanistan in order to make way for talks. End Summary.

2. (C) A congressional delegation led by Representative
Stephen Lynch met with Imran Khan, a former professional
cricket player who heads the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI)
party, on January 29. Khan welcomed the delegation to his
home located on the outskirts of Islamabad in the hills
overlooking Rawal Lake. The meeting was held outside on the
immaculate lawn of Khan\'s sizeable home against the backdrop
of the foothills of the Himalayas. The picturesque setting,
however, lay in stark contrast to the often pointed and
critical statements that were later to come from Khan. What
was initially scheduled to be a 30-minute courtesy call
stretched into an hour-long, largely one-sided, and somewhat
uncomfortable conversation, with Khan delivering blunt views
on what he considers to be failings of U.S. policy in
Pakistan and, by extension, in Afghanistan.

3. (C) Representative Lynch opened the meeting noting that
with the Obama administration had come a new opportunity for
change in U.S. policy toward Pakistan and for \"resetting\" the
relationship between the two allies. Lynch stated that both
of our countries are facing \"real challenges\" that have been
exacerbated by the poor global economy. He acknowledged
facing questions from his constituents about why the U.S.
sends economic assistance to Pakistan (\"With no returns,\"
quipped Khan). However, Lynch said he understood that,
though it would take much work and patience, it was important
\"to help Pakistan stabilize itself.\" He highlighted the need
to build trust between the two countries and to have more

4. (C) Lynch then yielded the floor to Khan, who took the
opening to begin his litany of objections to the conduct of
U.S. policy in Pakistan, which he characterized as being
dangerous and in need of change. Khan noted that he had been
in opposition to former President Pervez Musharraf\'s
government and that he was now also in opposition to
President Asif Ali Zardari\'s government. He stated that he
had initially supported Musharraf because Musharraf had
promised to bring \"real democracy\" to Pakistan. However, in
the end, \"Musharraf took us all for a ride.\" He stated that
Musharraf was initially popular with the people because they
were fed up with former Prime Ministers Benazir Bhutto and
Nawaz Sharif, but he lamented that Musharraf ended up
bringing back into his government the same individuals who
had served under Benazir and Nawaz.

5. (C) Khan charged that former Deputy Secretary of State
John Negroponte and former Assistant Secretary of State for
South and Central Asia Richard Boucher endorsed the
controversial National Reconciliation Ordinance (NRO)
(reftels) specifically in order to pave the way for Bhutto\'s
return to Pakistan. Khan further argued that there is a
common perception that Bhutto decided to run for office under
U.S. pressure. Now, \"thanks to the NRO, the biggest criminal
in the country (i.e., Zardari) has been brought to power,\"
Khan stated. Khan added that U.S. assistance was going to \"a

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known crook\" and said the U.S. should not stand with Zardari
because \"you need a credible partner to deal with our

6. (C) Khan went on to chastise the U.S. for repeating with
Zardari a key mistake that, he claimed, it had made during
Musharraf\'s government, which was that \"it supported the man
and not the democratic process.\" Khan cautioned the U.S.
against giving the impression that it is supporting a puppet
government in Pakistan, which will only further alienate the
people, he added. Khan claimed that evidence of this
alienation can be found in the fact that after eight years of
U.S. support to Pakistan, 80 percent of Pakistanis believe
the U.S. is a greater threat to Pakistan than India is. He
insisted the U.S. should always bank on supporting democracy
in Pakistan because, ultimately, whatever government comes to
power will \"want to play ball with the U.S.,\" as long as it
is \"sovereign and trustworthy.\"

7. (C) Lynch told Khan that leadership in Pakistan has been a
\"moving target,\" and acknowledged that a lot of hope had been
riding on Bhutto\'s return to power. However, Lynch
emphasized that there was never a calculation on the USG\'s
part to support any one leader over another. He added that
U.S. policy toward Pakistan, overall, has consistently been
driven by the view of Pakistan as a strategic partner.

8. (C) On the current security situation in Pakistan, Khan
advised that the USG should use local tribes to deal with
Taliban and other militant forces. He said that, in order to
be able to work with tribesmen, we have to understand the
\"tribal character,\" which, he said, is primarily marked by
hospitality and revenge. He denounced the use of aerial
bombings and drone operations, arguing that they have created
animosity and caused local tribesmen to join militant forces
in order to seek revenge. (Note: Khan also pointedly stated
that the GOP allows the \"drone attacks\" to occur, then lies
to the Pakistani public that it has no control over them to
deflect the public\'s anger. End Note.) Khan argued that
such operations were radicalizing Pakistani youth, not just
among the poor but also among the educated, middle classes.
Dialogue, policing, and intelligence gathering should be the
cornerstone of anti-militancy efforts in the tribal areas
instead of the use of military force, Khan contended. Noting
that he was recently in Swat, he went on to accuse the
Pakistan Army of extrajudicial killings, summary executions,
and \"sexual humiliation\" of residents in some villages.

9. (C) Khan urged the USG to seek \"alternative points of
views\" about what is happening in the tribal areas of
Pakistan, and he recommended speaking with General Orakzai,
former NWFP Govenor, for starters. Khan charged that the GOP
is \"blinded by dollars,\" and consequently lacks an accurate
view of what is happening on the ground. He further claimed
that the GOP \"whips up the threat of the Taliban\" in order to
get more money from the U.S. He claimed last year\'s Swat
operation, which he termed a \"debacle,\" was one such
exaggeration that was \"stage managed\" in order to gain U.S.
funds; there was no imminent threat of militants marching on
Islamabad, he said. Khan also claimed that the Lal Masjid
operation was similarly stage managed by Musharraf. He
called for an end to Pakistan\'s \"insane military action\" in
the tribal areas, adding that the Army has failed to secure
any significant areas of South Waziristan despite GOP
statements to the contrary.

10. (C) On current local politics, Khan predicted Pakistan
was heading towards mid-term elections. He also claimed that
Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry was the most popular man in
Pakistan at the moment because the people of Pakistan want
NRO beneficiaries to be brought to justice. Regarding
Afghanistan, Khan argued that a government of consensus is
needed in that country, adding that Pakistan can play a
credible role there. He asserted that the government in
Afghanistan needs to be \"perceived as sovereign.\" He said
our mistake in Afghanistan was failing to isolate Al-Qaeda
from the Taliban. Khan called on the U.S. to scale back its
operations in Afghanistan to make way for talks.

11. (U) This cable was drafted after CODEL Lynch departed

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12. (U) Participants

Representative Stephen Lynch
Representative Bob Inglis
Representative Todd Platts
Representative Betty Sutton
Representative Joe Donnelly
Scott Lindsay, Professional Staff Member, House Oversight and
Government Reform Committee (HOGR)
Bruce Fernandez, Professional Staff Member, HOGR
Adam Fromm, Professional Staff Member, HOGR
DCM Jerry Feierstein

Imran Khan, leader of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf party