Saboo
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Soch to aapki bhi Nawaz Sharif mein phunsi hui hay.
Dunya buddal ruhe hay janab. Zara bahir niklein ya
iskayliay Nawaz Sharif ko he zore lugana purrey ga!
Why Imran Khan always keeps silence on national issues ?? Anything from Imran Khan about saraiki pro
Soch to aapki bhi Nawaz Sharif mein phunsi hui hay.
Dunya buddal ruhe hay janab. Zara bahir niklein ya
iskayliay Nawaz Sharif ko he zore lugana purrey ga!
PkRevolution
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Actually, people who are talking now about new provinces they have nothing to offer to nation. This debate is to distract our concentration from important issues. Corruption, killing, law and order situation, balochistan issue, Karachi, MQM and ANP killers, US involement.
Time to get mature. Don't be always an instrument of them.
IMRAN KHAN is only single leader in Pakistan who knows what they (corrupts) want to acchieve with new province debates.
Geo Imran Khan.
Time to get mature. Don't be always an instrument of them.
IMRAN KHAN is only single leader in Pakistan who knows what they (corrupts) want to acchieve with new province debates.
Geo Imran Khan.
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pak4rule
Senator (1k+ posts)
kindly remember one thing that if IK is doing iftaar on streets , he is not doing any ehsaan on anyone, its just a political stunt .
secondly if IK is to be considered LEADER than one must know what is his stance on national issues, if you dont have any good to report dont just call that question stupid or wrong or bad.
If IK is supporting new provinces even on administrative aspect , than sorry he lacks wisdom.
He is stupid enough not to understand that creating new provinces will damage big time, we cant handle 4 and he is supporting more....
Allah hum per rehem karay aisay aisay loog leader bunnay chalay hain jin ko pakistan ki unity ka hi ehsaas nahi.
ufsoos, very tragic indeed.
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It's so funny to see people complain about the current lot of politicians when nobody among us here would be willing to step forward and try to become that leader. As far as I'm aware, more provinces and more provincial autonomy will help governance in those provinces. But it's necessary that there is an effective devolution through the local government system. Unfortunately, our politicians do not allow the strengthening of local government systems. Rather than reforming the Musharraf system, they scrapped it all together. And we are still waiting for the local body election.
More provinces only on administrative basis does not mean national cohesion will be affected. It is only when it is done according to language etc. that problems arise. Switzerland is regarded as one of the best-run democracies in the world today. It has 25 provinces on the population the size of Lahore. And every province or "canton" is autonomous.
If more provinces means less unity, then let us do away with the existing provinces as well and make a one-unit as has been tested in the past. Surely that would be much better for national unity.
atifsharif
MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Why ik always keep silence on national issues ????? Anything from ik about saraiki province ?
dear yeh koon sa source hay ... aur yeh koon sa bayan hay ?
dear yeh koon sa source hay ... aur yeh koon sa bayan hay ?
atifsharif
MPA (400+ posts)
you thik it is stupid thing ..... aap sooch sakte ho kiyoon ke aap stupid bande ki mohabat main pagal ho gaye ho ... talk shows main ager koi pooche ga to zahir hay koi na koi jawab dena ho ga ... lekin is bande ki soch sirf aur sirf vote akatha karna hay .. jis main kabhi kamyab nahi ho ga ... apni party policy bataye kia hay mojoda halat ke mutabiq .. .ager aap waqe hi talk shows dekhte hain to aap ko pata ho ga ke province bahalwalpur ka naara lagane waloon ne yahan tak kaha hay ke is waqt government ki taraf se yeh issue uchalna badniati per mabni hay ... kia so called TEHREEK e INSAAF ko yahan be insafi nazar nahi ati ya ager koi be insaafi in ki favor main jaye to us pe ankhain band kar lete hain .... kyoon nahi khul ke baat karte ?? dar hay ke kahin punjab ka vote na toot jaye .. hazara ka kiyoon nahi bolte kiyoon dar hay ke pakhtoon khawa main jo 12 1400 vote hain un se bhi na hath do bethain ... sharam ani chahiye is gatia pan per .....TEHREEK BEINSAAFI Ko
crankthskunk
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
What does IK talks about in every program?
Some problems of "Zaman Town" or on wider scale "Lahore" local politics?[hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar]
crankthskunk
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Oh bhai, I agree IK is not doing any ahsan on the Public, Leaders lead, they don't do Ahsan on the Public Like PPP who always count few Ahsan in their eyes they have done to the Public, ignoring the damage they have caused and are still causing. You say just a gimmick, right! Please ask your NS to perform the same gimmick for the Public.
Ask him to appear in Public without any security, not a single body guard of any kind. Address people close by and sharing stage with him. Sit amongst people, eat with them, sleep on the road side. If these are gimmicks, I challenge NS to perform these gimmicks.
We will soon find out he is the "Sher" or a "Geeder".[hilar][hilar][hilar]
arslan4u
Minister (2k+ posts)
Whatever you wrote is based on your own little imagination, you probably have nightmares of PTI winning elections. Soon your nightmares will become reality so get used to it.
atifsharif
MPA (400+ posts)
pak4rule
Senator (1k+ posts)
(bigsmile) nice.
NS can do but only if he sees any political benefit. [ though with tight security in sada libaas guards ]
khair , my only objection to IK is , his opinion on new provinces, he showed he lacks wisdom and its very tragic.
New provinces are not in national interest and could cause more bloodshed.
see today ANP demand of pakhtoon khaw province in baluchistan.....
only traitors will go for new provinces and I hate to see IK among them.
just like ppp,pmlq and mqm the PTI spports division of punjab.in nawaz shareefs jealousy...this is truth,just like this fact is true that nawaz shareef is now just a b team of ppp and establishment and he is not free like he was in past.
i think that pti people should also mature and tolerate right criticism and not start abusing everyone who dares oppose them on right issues
this new provinces issue started to break pakistan as per cia plan,till 2015....imran khan i guess is not against pakistan like ppp,mqm and pmlq but he lacks vision,he totally lacks the vision and he cant see deep...on top of that he listens to army stooges like haroon rasheed who always meet with generals at dark of night and take instructions from them,totally unforgiveable
haroon rasheed who worships kyani.can he answer me one question .that why kyani does not intervene in present circumstances to save pakistan?when army broke nawaz shareefs govt in 1999 than economy was in much better shape,lawlessness was much less,and pakistan had stability and even balochistan province people were made pro pakistani in that time and peace reigned there,but army did shub khoon and killed nawaz government.
why army does not intervenes now...
let m answer myself...kyani wont break this govt till america instructs him to.at americans request army broke nawaz shareef govt and at americas orders kyani is helper of zerdari mafia.still pakistani sheeple dont realise this and if they dont rise up soon than no false pot induced dreams of few "baabaas" are going to save us!!!!Allah subhanahu has no chosen nations,he saves only those nations who are on path of justice
why army does not intervenes now...
let m answer myself...kyani wont break this govt till america instructs him to.at americans request army broke nawaz shareef govt and at americas orders kyani is helper of zerdari mafia.still pakistani sheeple dont realise this and if they dont rise up soon than no false pot induced dreams of few "baabaas" are going to save us!!!!Allah subhanahu has no chosen nations,he saves only those nations who are on path of justice
pak4rule
Senator (1k+ posts)
Dearest Zoaib , with due respect , you are not giving a good logic here.
My brother, see the present situation, for Allah's sake , dont support anything just for the sake of support.
Right now pakistan has provinces, right ?
I am against changing any system but to correct them while being in it.
You know nature of politics here, people's reaction to it and you know that almost all political leasders are ready to use people's emotions for their own interest.
Your GREAT IK should have the wisdom to understand all of it and must know that at this time [ seeing present situation of law and order , karachi , ISI and CIA rift] demanding for new provinces is a traitor's job.
Enemies of pakistan like to see pakistani people being divide and as a result cause bloodshed.
there will be no harm to these nasty polititions , only innocent will suffer.
IK must have wisdom to not only understand local politics but the plans and wishes of enemies of pakistan.
A true leader see the whole prospect , whole scenario. Pakistan is very important country and right now its being the main target of international politics, one stupid step may cause huge loss for pakistan.
This is the time when one has to think and decide wisely, trust me IK lacks vision my dear, he can not see that all are eyeing on this beautiful country to be paralised.
I hope you now know that ANP demanded pakhtoon khaw province....
many more will come
why you then hate MQM when we came to know that they had the desire for muhajir province ?
my God , talk sense budy, you go on loving IK, no problem but kindly dont support any stupid logic of your leader.... Please personalities must not be given importance , give priority to pakistan's interests....
Plz realise that bad governance and corruption this is not the right solution to divide country in provinces and create more CMs, more MNAs and MPAs. this country cant bear the expence of these rascles.
think plz
pak4rule
Senator (1k+ posts)
you are very right, I hope you know that few journalists who are in contact with army and government, have stated that the present govt is being dheet only cause army has given them assurance that PPPP will win the next elections also mushaid also have stated in shahid nama that IK these days in constant communication with GHQ. GHQ only wanna harm Nawaz in punjab , then rest is easy for them to give electoral win to PPPP and IK again will come up with sorry and apology for being used , just like he did related to support to Musharaf.
army is using poor IK , and as IK lacks vision , he is being used by army / agencies.
We as a nation being betrayed by such marvel personalities who seems hero but later on they stabbed on our back and play innocent.
IK must unite with Jamat-eIslami and Nawaz to end most nasty parties like ANP, PPPP,MQM and JUI.
then later on IK should proceed to end the remaing corrupts.....;)
I hope you got what I said.
There are much more important national issues then this out of discussion issue,,Sariaki soba, hazara soba, Bhahawalpor state ect..........These are the issues which be discus on the assambly form or after the election but PPP or others are trying to divert attention of the people from the real issues........................Imran is much more clever then Bagora Altaf ,Stupid Zardari or King of Lahore N.S,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
You're right and that's why I said neither I nor Imran Khan supports division on the basis of language or race or ethnicity, because that will lead to break up eventually. All of the instances you've mentioned come into that category. But in principle, irrespective of whatever the security situation, more provinces "strictly" on an administrative basis are considered to be good for governance. And you say we'll have more CMs, MPAs to care of. But the funds they'll get will be less and so lesser the pilferage (or wastage) by money going into one person's hands. This is why devolution is considered to be good for governance. It will also mean less headache for the center.
And you talk as if Imran Khan is on the forefront of this "more provinces" movement. He only answers when he's questioned about it. Otherwise, compared to other leaders, he talks about how to achieve national cohesion. In the last speech in Islamabad, he said the same. That we want to gather ALL Pakistanis. The Karachi dharna was an example of all ethnicities gathered under one banner.
And I'm hating this talk of Seraiki, bahawalpur, hazara and Pakhtun in Baluchistan province as much as you do, because it has opened up a pandora's box which did not need to be opened, not the least at this point. But as usual, it is being used for political mileage by the PPP along with the PML-Q. As they say, politics takes precedence over everything here. And in the end, politics wins and Pakistan suffers.
The target of everyone at this point should be to get rid of this corrupt and incapable government, instead of fighting over new provinces (and that too on ethnic, language basis)
