Why do they still call themselves Muhajirs ?

Spartacus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Why do they still call themselves Muhajirs ?

A very good and logical question ....

They have been given some IDENTITY like Mukkur , Hindustani , Muhajir , Panah Ghuzeen ,etc , etc
They chosed one of the given Identity and that is why you can not blame them for this IDENTITY .


How did it happen ?

First we have to see why people of URBEN SINDH needed a political voice ? Do you have any answer ?...
I am giving you answer of this question....Answer is IDENTITY See most of you are here....

Pakistani >>>>>> and Punjabi
Pakistani>>>>>>>and Pakhtoon
Pakistani >>>>>>and Sindi
Pakistani>>>>>>and Balouchi
Pakistani>>>>>>and kashmeeri
ETC
ETC
That is why a group whos parents and in my case Grand parents came from India after 1947.
They were only pakistani >>>>> One identity was missing , but they were very happy with this.

After some time there were ethnic disputes came . In East Pakistan , Bengalis demanded more rights according to their population, they demanded their own Governor , their langauge etc etc....
In Balouchistan , Balouchi demanded almost a state without pakistan support.
We were still PAKISTANI , no demand....
In 1960-61 , capital changed from karachi to ISLAMABAD , we did not demand anything till now...
In 1971 , Bangladesh got their freedom.....We are still happy PAKISTANI....
IN 1973 , Z.A.BHUTTU separated sindh into sindh DEHI and sindh Shehri....

Reason he gave that he want that DEHI should get more development with this new QUOTA SYSTEMand with QUOTA SYSTEM both community will get some development.

If this QUOTA SYSTEM was so good , why did he apply only in SINDH.
After this "NA INSAFI " , actually Z.A.BHUTTU pushed us that we should think more than PAKISTANI.
But we were not too much involve in politics , we were divided , we were only a victim and nothing more.

In 1978 , when QUOTA SYSTEM was already 5 years old ...

Because of this 5 years old kid , huge number of MOHAJIRS did not get admission in COLLEGES and universities , even they had more numbers as compare to those who got admission...."NA INSAFI "

This time we were again a victim but with some political knowledge and political awareness.
This time we had a group of students who were ready to fight to get their admission rights.
This time we had Altaf Hussain and his friends , who decided to go to student politics to protect their rights.
11 JUNE 1978 , they based a student political party APMSO ( ALL PAKISTAN MUHAJIR STUDENTS ORGANIZATION)
Now they were not less than others they were equal ...
And only now they were Pakistani >>>> and MOHAJIRS...... WAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO A GREAT DAY ( THANK YOU MR.ALTAF HUSSAIN , you gave us IDENTITY on that day )

Now , MOHAJIRS .....My God >>> Altaf Hussain is dividing Pakistan....
Ohhhh He is Ethnic , rasist , etc etc , and why......, yes ,because he founded a student party with ethnic name....
They were right this MOHAIR was and still showing a group ( Ethnic Group )
But there were already others student organizatios with ethnic name like ( PUNJABI STUDENT ORGANIZATION , PASHTOO STUDENTS FEDRATION , BALOUCH STUDENTS FEDRATION , etc etc...), But they were not Ethnic....again " NA INSAFI "

Rest you people know very well when JI kicked out Altaf Hussain from Karachi University.Altaf Hussain Aoor Us Kay Satheeeooon Per Taleem Ka Derwaza Bund Ker Dea Gaya Tha....

Then Altaf Hussain,s Team founded on 20TH MARCH 1984 MQM

Jaha Insaf Nahee Hota Hay Wohan Shetaan Azad Hota Hay....Aoor Jaha Shetan Aazad Hota Hay...Wohan Khoon Bahoot Aasani Say Behta Hay
( lump sum said by Aslam Zahid )

If some of you can come with logic I am ready to answer.

Believe me we have been pushed for this we did not demand we did not need this , but now We Can't Live Without this identity that is MUHAJIR

[email protected]
 

Rawal

Citizen
dear aap ne jo details likhi hain main tamam ke sath agree karta hon magar ek request hey ke aap jaiza lean ke india sey urdu bolney waley sirif sindh main nahee aae punjab or kuch soba sarhad main bhi aabad hoe magar wahan ye masla nahee jo sindh main darpaish hey asal baat ye hey ke sindh main log sindhi qaum main zam nahee hoe or indian saqafat ko hi farogh milla ye lkhnavi, hydrabadi etc etc kia tha jab ke dunia main aap jahan jatey hain wahan zam ho jatey hain (aap sey murad tamam insan hey) so ye ghalti hoi ke aap sindhi nahee baney kia aap bata saktey hain ke usa, uk, canada ya europ jatey hain tu kia wahan urdu bolty hian chhori pajama pehntey hain nahee aap usa canda uk main english bolty hain or wahan ka lebas pehntey hain europ main wahan ki zaban boltey hain or wahan ka lebas pehntey hain jab hi tu ehsas ho janey ke baad altaf bhai ne muhajir ke bajai sindhi kaha or sindhi topi pehan kar sindh dosti ka izhar karna chaha so dear muhajir par insist karna or banna ab munasib nahee aage aap ki marzi aap jo chahen ban saktey hain
 

Spartacus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Rawal said:
dear aap ne jo details likhi hain main tamam ke sath agree karta hon magar ek request hey ke aap jaiza lean ke india sey urdu bolney waley sirif sindh main nahee aae punjab or kuch soba sarhad main bhi aabad hoe magar wahan ye masla nahee jo sindh main darpaish hey asal baat ye hey ke sindh main log sindhi qaum main zam nahee hoe or indian saqafat ko hi farogh milla ye lkhnavi, hydrabadi etc etc kia tha jab ke dunia main aap jahan jatey hain wahan zam ho jatey hain (aap sey murad tamam insan hey) so ye ghalti hoi ke aap sindhi nahee baney kia aap bata saktey hain ke usa, uk, canada ya europ jatey hain tu kia wahan urdu bolty hian chhori pajama pehntey hain nahee aap usa canda uk main english bolty hain or wahan ka lebas pehntey hain europ main wahan ki zaban boltey hain or wahan ka lebas pehntey hain jab hi tu ehsas ho janey ke baad altaf bhai ne muhajir ke bajai sindhi kaha or sindhi topi pehan kar sindh dosti ka izhar karna chaha so dear muhajir par insist karna or banna ab munasib nahee aage aap ki marzi aap jo chahen ban saktey hain

They have been given some IDENTITY like Mukkur , Hindustani , Muhajir , Panah Ghuzeen ,etc , etc
They chosed one of the given Identity and that is why you can not blame them for this IDENTITY .
 

Zaidi Qasim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Spartacus said:
Rawal said:
dear aap ne jo details likhi hain main tamam ke sath agree karta hon magar ek request hey ke aap jaiza lean ke india sey urdu bolney waley sirif sindh main nahee aae punjab or kuch soba sarhad main bhi aabad hoe magar wahan ye masla nahee jo sindh main darpaish hey asal baat ye hey ke sindh main log sindhi qaum main zam nahee hoe or indian saqafat ko hi farogh milla ye lkhnavi, hydrabadi etc etc kia tha jab ke dunia main aap jahan jatey hain wahan zam ho jatey hain (aap sey murad tamam insan hey) so ye ghalti hoi ke aap sindhi nahee baney kia aap bata saktey hain ke usa, uk, canada ya europ jatey hain tu kia wahan urdu bolty hian chhori pajama pehntey hain nahee aap usa canda uk main english bolty hain or wahan ka lebas pehntey hain europ main wahan ki zaban boltey hain or wahan ka lebas pehntey hain jab hi tu ehsas ho janey ke baad altaf bhai ne muhajir ke bajai sindhi kaha or sindhi topi pehan kar sindh dosti ka izhar karna chaha so dear muhajir par insist karna or banna ab munasib nahee aage aap ki marzi aap jo chahen ban saktey hain

They have been given some IDENTITY like Mukkur , Hindustani , Muhajir , Panah Ghuzeen ,etc , etc
They chosed one of the given Identity and that is why you can not blame them for this IDENTITY .

Seems you have a lot of time on your hand. You are also good at controversal issues.You just following your pir. God Forbidden, if the word Pakistani will come at the tip of your tongue or your pir's tongue. And why would we care if you continue to call yourself Muhajir.My parents were not from Karachi but I was born and raised there.I call myself Pakistani more than anything else. But first of all I am Muslim. Now, you have a right to call yourself whatever you want.However, It is ehsun, if you give yourself and your generation a solid identity which could not be misinterpreted.
 

Spartacus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Maalick said:
Why don't you people start calling yourself SINDHI (after Pakistani) right after 1947 ????

Believe me we have been pushed for this we did not demand we did not need this , but now We Can't Live Without this identity that is MUHAJIR

According to your formula Pashtoons who are living in Balouchistan should call themself Balouchi.

etc ..
etc..

etc = I can give alot of different examples in other Prov. too
 

AbbaG

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
[/quote]

They have been given some IDENTITY like Mukkur , Hindustani , Muhajir , Panah Ghuzeen ,etc , etc
They chosed one of the given Identity and that is why you can not blame them for this IDENTITY .
[/quote]

Pakistan was created by majority Muslim Provinces for the people living in these areas. You decided to come and live with us, your choice.
But now the communities living in Karachi have to take your permissoin to settle down in Karachi by paying BHATTA. Look in your Geraiban and think about it.

You can call yourself Charya, Mukkur, Hindustani, Mohajir, etc.. but remember you are not the only ones living in Karachi, there are other communities living there too. Learn to live with others, why it is always everyone against you, have you ever thought about it.

Aftern 62 years, you guys are still not sure if you are part of Pakistan or India, I will not insert link here, we all know it. But I am sure you can't resisit and soon this thread will be MQM2 website.
 

Spartacus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Spartacus said:
Why do they still call themselves Muhajirs ?

A very good and logical question ....

They have been given some IDENTITY like Mukkur , Hindustani , Muhajir , Panah Ghuzeen ,etc , etc
They chosed one of the given Identity and that is why you can not blame them for this IDENTITY .


How did it happen ?

First we have to see why people of URBEN SINDH needed a political voice ? Do you have any answer ?...
I am giving you answer of this question....Answer is IDENTITY See most of you are here....

Pakistani >>>>>> and Punjabi
Pakistani>>>>>>>and Pakhtoon
Pakistani >>>>>>and Sindi
Pakistani>>>>>>and Balouchi
Pakistani>>>>>>and kashmeeri
ETC
ETC
That is why a group whos parents and in my case Grand parents came from India after 1947.
They were only pakistani >>>>> One identity was missing , but they were very happy with this.

After some time there were ethnic disputes came . In East Pakistan , Bengalis demanded more rights according to their population, they demanded their own Governor , their langauge etc etc....
In Balouchistan , Balouchi demanded almost a state without pakistan support.
We were still PAKISTANI , no demand....
In 1960-61 , capital changed from karachi to ISLAMABAD , we did not demand anything till now...
In 1971 , Bangladesh got their freedom.....We are still happy PAKISTANI....
IN 1973 , Z.A.BHUTTU separated sindh into sindh DEHI and sindh Shehri....

Reason he gave that he want that DEHI should get more development with this new QUOTA SYSTEMand with QUOTA SYSTEM both community will get some development.

If this QUOTA SYSTEM was so good , why did he apply only in SINDH.
After this "NA INSAFI " , actually Z.A.BHUTTU pushed us that we should think more than PAKISTANI.
But we were not too much involve in politics , we were divided , we were only a victim and nothing more.

In 1978 , when QUOTA SYSTEM was already 5 years old ...

Because of this 5 years old kid , huge number of MOHAJIRS did not get admission in COLLEGES and universities , even they had more numbers as compare to those who got admission...."NA INSAFI "

This time we were again a victim but with some political knowledge and political awareness.
This time we had a group of students who were ready to fight to get their admission rights.
This time we had Altaf Hussain and his friends , who decided to go to student politics to protect their rights.
11 JUNE 1978 , they based a student political party APMSO ( ALL PAKISTAN MUHAJIR STUDENTS ORGANIZATION)
Now they were not less than others they were equal ...
And only now they were Pakistani >>>> and MOHAJIRS...... WAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO A GREAT DAY ( THANK YOU MR.ALTAF HUSSAIN , you gave us IDENTITY on that day )

Now , MOHAJIRS .....My God >>> Altaf Hussain is dividing Pakistan....
Ohhhh He is Ethnic , rasist , etc etc , and why......, yes ,because he founded a student party with ethnic name....
They were right this MOHAIR was and still showing a group ( Ethnic Group )
But there were already others student organizatios with ethnic name like ( PUNJABI STUDENT ORGANIZATION , PASHTOO STUDENTS FEDRATION , BALOUCH STUDENTS FEDRATION , etc etc...), But they were not Ethnic....again " NA INSAFI "

Rest you people know very well when JI kicked out Altaf Hussain from Karachi University.Altaf Hussain Aoor Us Kay Satheeeooon Per Taleem Ka Derwaza Bund Ker Dea Gaya Tha....

Then Altaf Hussain,s Team founded on 20TH MARCH 1984 MQM

Jaha Insaf Nahee Hota Hay Wohan Shetaan Azad Hota Hay....Aoor Jaha Shetan Aazad Hota Hay...Wohan Khoon Bahoot Aasani Say Behta Hay
( lump sum said by Aslam Zahid )

If some of you can come with logic I am ready to answer.

Believe me we have been pushed for this we did not demand we did not need this , but now We Can't Live Without this identity that is MUHAJIR

[email protected]

Believe me we have been pushed for this we did not demand we did not need this , but now We Can't Live Without this identity that is MUHAJIR

[email protected]
 

syed_nd

MPA (400+ posts)
kia fazool bahis hai har kisi ko aik shanakht darkaar hotee hai so ham nay apnay liye mahajir shanakht ko pasand kia jis ki nisbat hamaray aaba o ajdad ki hijrat say hai or jaha tak sindhi waghaira honay ki baat hai to tareekhi toor par sindhi punjabi waghaira wohi kehlae ga jo sind punjab may rehnay kay sath sath usse zabaan ka bhee hamil ho jab allah nay hamay mukhtalf qabeelo may banta hai to kisi or ko aitraaz ka kia haq hai haa abb ham orr bhee ziada mahajir hoo gaee hain kion kay hamari asal shanakht ilm o adab hunar shaistagee to bhatta khori qatal o gharat garee or luchar paan main tabdeel karnay wala hamara BHAEE aik baar phir mahajir ho gaya hai
 

Maalick

Citizen
No .. you are wrong ...


My family also shifted to Pakistan after 1497 ... but they all just forget who they were before and start new life as a Pakistani, Punjabi as they came in Punjab. I am 30 year old and I never meet even a single person in Punjab and NWFP so claim that he is Muhajir (or even say in simple words that we shifted ).. we all just forget who we were, from where we came .. I also doesn't know from which city My family belong before partition .. WHY SHOULD I ????????
 

Spartacus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Maalick said:
No .. you are wrong ...


My family also shifted to Pakistan after 1497 ... but they all just forget who they were before and start new life as a Pakistani, Punjabi as they came in Punjab. I am 30 year old and I never meet even a single person in Punjab and NWFP so claim that he is Muhajir (or even say in simple words that we shifted ).. we all just forget who we were, from where we came .. I also doesn't know from which city My family belong before partition .. WHY SHOULD I ????????

In your case this is most probabily that your parents came from EAST PUNJAB and that is why you and your parents did not face those problems .
During one Interview ( ISSB ) , I have been asked that
?????? ???? ????? ?? ???? ?? ??? ?
Did you ever get this question ?
 

syed_nd

MPA (400+ posts)
spartacus have u ever think y u get this question i mean about ur grand father one because one can see nobody ask that question from musharaf moin ud din haider talat masood and lot of others i think its because of ur 2nd time mahajir BHAEEEE AND BECAUSE OF HIM WE ALL MAHAJIR YOUTH WHO IS INVOLVED OR NOT IN HIS POLITICS OF HATRED R FACING THESE KIND OF QUESTION IN THESE KIND OF NATIONAL INSTITUTIONS
 

Spartacus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
syed_nd said:
spartacus have u ever think y u get this question i mean about ur grand father one because one can see nobody ask that question from musharaf moin ud din haider talat masood and lot of others i think its because of ur 2nd time mahajir BHAEEEE AND BECAUSE OF HIM WE ALL MAHAJIR YOUTH WHO IS INVOLVED OR NOT IN HIS POLITICS OF HATRED R FACING THESE KIND OF QUESTION IN THESE KIND OF NATIONAL INSTITUTIONS

They also face those questios direct or indirect way and I can prove ...
 

Spartacus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
hiflyer1961 said:
Spartacus said:
Maalick said:
No .. you are wrong ...


My family also shifted to Pakistan after 1497 ... but they all just forget who they were before and start new life as a Pakistani, Punjabi as they came in Punjab. I am 30 year old and I never meet even a single person in Punjab and NWFP so claim that he is Muhajir (or even say in simple words that we shifted ).. we all just forget who we were, from where we came .. I also doesn't know from which city My family belong before partition .. WHY SHOULD I ????????

In your case this is most probabily that your parents came from EAST PUNJAB and that is why you and your parents did not face those problems .

During one Interview ( ISSB ) , I have been asked that
?????? ???? ????? ?? ???? ?? ??? ?
Did you ever get this question ?
 

mehwish_ali

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Follow article is taken from our website www.mqmpakistani.com
If you find problems in reading Urdu Text here, then please read it directly at our website (link).
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PakPatriot1

Senator (1k+ posts)
I second the Sparatacus.
It was 1978, where there was no MQM at all. I passed my matric with distinction, and applied for General Duty Pilot commission at PAF. I passed every test and exam, but at the end of CMB exam, they asked me about my height and physique (my height is 5'-11") and the doctor told in front of me "Oye yeh urdu waloN da Munda kewaiN inna lamma hogaya neiN, hor aiy PAF dey wich warna chanhna aiy?" and then they failed me on some gorunds. I have no objection if they failed me, but the sentence I received from the doctor, I havn't forgotten yet even after 31 years.
I asked the saame question to my father and my Taya sahib, they told me that they migrated as Pakistani, became something else.

Can anybody tell me how they feel the pain?
 

Arrow

Citizen
hiflyer1961 said:
PakPatriot1 said:
I second the Sparatacus.
It was 1978, where there was no MQM at all. I passed my matric with distinction, and applied for General Duty Pilot commission at PAF. I passed every test and exam, but at the end of CMB exam, they asked me about my height and physique (my height is 5'-11") and the doctor told in front of me "Oye yeh urdu waloN da Munda kewaiN inna lamma hogaya neiN, hor aiy PAF dey wich warna chanhna aiy?" and then they failed me on some gorunds. I have no objection if they failed me, but the sentence I received from the doctor, I havn't forgotten yet even after 31 years.
I asked the saame question to my father and my Taya sahib, they told me that they migrated as Pakistani, became something else.

Can anybody tell me how they feel the pain?

Ever wondered how Musharaf got in?
General Pervez Musharraf NI (M), TBt, rcds, afwc, Psc, gsc was born on August 11, 1943 in Delhi, British India). He got commission from PMA kakul on 19 April 1964. In 1998 he was promoted to General and took over as the Chief of Army Staff and he had been holding this office till November 2007.

Ever wondered how he ruled the country for nince years?
Ever wondered how Mirza Aslam Beg got and reached the highest rank?
General Mirza Aslam Beg NI (M), HI (M), SBt, afwc, Psc was born in Azam Garh, British India on 2 August 1931 and got commission in Pakistan Army on 23 August 1952. He was made Chief of Army on 17 August 1988 and remained in the office till 1 August 1992.

Out of fourteen Chiefs of Army Staff since 1947, two were from born in India and reached the top in the Army. Then there numerous in the lower ranks as well. Dont bring in your loser Muhajir theory into this debate and interject the Armed Forces. The always or try to be partial in their selection procedures and they have weed out the undesired ones, and that could be anyone.

Your filty MQM mentality at work not your fault.
Very good and logical reply.

BTW people who know the forces in Pakistan (not the ones who have being rejected due to their incompetence and are now making lame excuses) will tell you that most of the Admin staff in PAF and many doctors in the army medical core and medical core of PAF are from Urdu Speaking background.
 

foqia khan

MPA (400+ posts)
PakPatriot1 said:
I second the Sparatacus.
It was 1978, where there was no MQM at all. I passed my matric with distinction, and applied for General Duty Pilot commission at PAF. I passed every test and exam, but at the end of CMB exam, they asked me about my height and physique (my height is 5'-11") and the doctor told in front of me "Oye yeh urdu waloN da Munda kewaiN inna lamma hogaya neiN, hor aiy PAF dey wich warna chanhna aiy?" and then they failed me on some gorunds. I have no objection if they failed me, but the sentence I received from the doctor, I havn't forgotten yet even after 31 years.
I asked the saame question to my father and my Taya sahib, they told me that they migrated as Pakistani, became something else.

Can anybody tell me how they feel the pain?

I think u were rejected bcoz of your tallness ,not for the reason that u belonged from urdu speaking family , in GDP they need short boys ,reason their head should not be touch or should not be very close to the roof of the plane.
 

foqia khan

MPA (400+ posts)
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