What Javed Ahmed Ghamidi said about Engr. Muhammad Ali Mirza-1:59:08

[Fairer]

Javed Ghamdi's thoughts on women performing Hajj without Mehram.

 

[concern_paki]

YEH LO FITNE KA JAWAB

aik lakh ikhtilaf but dalail se baat krna bht achi baat hai. Jazbatiat ko side pe rakh k behs krni chahahe. Mein ghamdi sb ka follower nai but inki yeh adat achi hai.

 

[Citizen X]

YEH LO FITNE KA JAWAB

And what is wrong in this? Care to elaborate?

 

[amm_jan]

Allah clearly says in Quran:
"O People who Believe! Obey Allah and the Noble Messenger and those amongst you who are in authority; so if there is a dispute amongst you concerning any matter, refer it to Allah and the Noble Messenger (for judgement) if you believe in Allah and the Last Day; this is better and has the best outcome. "
So whoever, rejects hadith should be very careful.

 

[concern_paki]

and NO I DONT CARE

And what is wrong in this? Care to elaborate?

 

[Citizen X]

and NO I DONT CARE

So basically you just don't have anything to back up your lies, could have saved everybody all this trouble by simply admitting in the first place that you were lying.

 

[concern_paki]

WELL I DONT LIE AND I NEVER LIE I DONT HAVE TO GIVE YOU THE PROOF ALLAH KNOWS AND THATS MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR ME, IF YOU THINK THAT I AM A LIER CONTINUE TO DO SO AS I DONT GIVE A SHIT ON WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT ME, NO MORE MESSAGES

So basically you just don't have anything to back up your lies, could have saved everybody all this trouble by simply admitting in the first place that you were lying.

 

[concern_paki]

WELL I DONT LIE AND I NEVER LIE I DONT HAVE TO GIVE YOU THE PROOF ALLAH KNOWS AND THATS MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR ME, IF YOU THINK THAT I AM A LIER CONTINUE TO DO SO AS I DONT GIVE A SHIT ON WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT ME, NO MORE MESSAGES

So basically you just don't have anything to back up your lies, could have saved everybody all this trouble by simply admitting in the first place that you were lying.

 

[Citizen X]

So whoever, rejects hadith should be very careful.

The question is not about rejecting or accepting it. I don't reject it and neither does Ghamdi. But the point is take hadith for what it is and not what its been made up to.

Hadith is not divine revelation, hadith is not creed, Hadith is not commandment, hadith cannot and does not add nor does it abrogate anything from the Quran

 

[amm_jan]

The question is not about rejecting or accepting it. I don't reject it and neither does Ghamdi. But the point is take hadith for what it is and not what its been made up to.

Hadith is not divine revelation, hadith is not creed, Hadith is not commandment, hadith cannot and does not add nor does it abrogate anything from the Quran

I don't know what is the definition of your rejection/acceptance. Quran is commanding to follow the Rasul SAW and you are saying "Hadith is not divine revelation, hadith is not creed, Hadith is not commandment, hadith cannot and does not add nor does it abrogate anything from the Quran?"

 

[Citizen X]

WELL I DONT LIE AND I NEVER LIE I DONT HAVE TO GIVE YOU THE PROOF ALLAH KNOWS AND THATS MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR ME, IF YOU THINK THAT I AM A LIER CONTINUE TO DO SO AS I DONT GIVE A SHIT ON WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT ME, NO MORE MESSAGES

First of all man, you see that key on the extreme left in the middle of your keyboard, with caps lock written on it. Be a lamb won't you and press it for me. There you go, well done! ?

OK, where were we, ah yes! Now just by saying you are not a liar and you never lie, doesn't change anything because your lie is right there ( in all caps lock no less ) for everyone to see.

You accuse someone of changing a hadith, as in someone deliberately attributing something false to the Prophet s.a.w. A very very serious charge indeed for which the Prophet s.a.w in his lifetime warned of very severe punishment for someone who does that and that is one of the reason some of his closet sahaba narrated very few hadith out of fear that they might even by mistake attribute something wrong or false to the Prophet s.a.w.

And when called out to prove this very serious allegation, you start jumping up and down. I don't care blah blah blah.

If this is not a lie then I don't know what is!

 

[Citizen X]

I don't know what is the definition of your rejection/acceptance. Quran is commanding to follow the Rasul SAW and you are saying "Hadith is not divine revelation, hadith is not creed, Hadith is not commandment, hadith cannot and does not add nor does it abrogate anything from the Quran?"

And where do you find contradiction in my statement? Or are you saying that Hadith in fact IS divine revelation, as in another book sent down by Allah s.w.t just like his other books like the Injeel, Zabour, Tourat and the Quran?

 

[concern_paki]

YOU ARE ON MY IGNORE LIST...I DONT FUCKING GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU AND YOUR FUCKING PROPHET GHAMIDI

First of all man, you see that key on the extreme left in the middle of your keyboard, with caps lock written on it. Be a lamb won't you and press it for me. There you go, well done! ?

OK, where were we, ah yes! Now just by saying you are not a liar and you never lie, doesn't change anything because your lie is right there ( in all caps lock no less ) for everyone to see.

You accuse someone of changing a hadith, as in someone deliberately attributing something false to the Prophet s.a.w. A very very serious charge indeed for which the Prophet s.a.w in his lifetime warned of very severe punishment for someone who does that and that is one of the reason some of his closet sahaba narrated very few hadith out of fear that they might even by mistake attribute something wrong or false to the Prophet s.a.w.

And when called out to prove this very serious allegation, you start jumping up and down. I don't care blah blah blah.

If this is not a lie then I don't know what is!

 

[amm_jan]

And where do you find contradiction in my statement? Or are you saying that Hadith in fact IS divine revelation, as in another book sent down by Allah s.w.t just like his other books like the Injeel, Zabour, Tourat and the Quran?

Allah is commanding us to follow his commandments and you are asking us not to take him seriously.

 

[Citizen X]

YOU ARE ON MY IGNORE LIST...I DONT FUCKING GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU AND YOUR FUCKING PROPHET GHAMIDI

So once again just a lot of noise and no actual argument to support your accusations.

 

[Citizen X]

Allah is commanding us to follow his commandments and you are asking us not to take him seriously.

And how did you come to that brilliant conclusion?

Btw nicely dodged my question!

 

[Islamabadiya]

And how did you come to that brilliant conclusion?

Btw nicely dodged my question!

Lol, this dude ran off tails beaten legs, but showered you with praises before he left

Dudes like him are only good at one thing. Abuse.

 

[Citizen X]

Lol, this dude ran off tails beaten legs, but showered you with praises before he left

Dudes like him are only good at one thing. Abuse.

Unfortunately these people have an extreme lack of critical thinking skills. They follow blindly, without question whats has been drilled into their heads since childhood.

 

[amm_jan]

And how did you come to that brilliant conclusion?

Btw nicely dodged my question!

I quoted you the verse from the Qurran. Atiullah wa attiurasool

 

[Allama G]

what ikhtilaf..he changes the hadiths giving hiis fatwa..can do hajj without mehram?

you LIBERALS..

Simply discard his opinion if he is against Quran hadith. Don't listen to him. That's it.