What Javed Ahmed Ghamidi said about Engr. Muhammad Ali Mirza-1:59:08

concern_paki

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
javed ahmed ghamidi tries to change hadiths, he is fake scholar/imposer...heard him saying that woman can perform hajj without mehram and the condition was applied for only Mohammed SAW times but not anymore, changing ISLAM, dont trust him
 

JBA1234234

MPA (400+ posts)
javed ahmed ghamidi tries to change hadiths, he is fake scholar/imposer...heard him saying that woman can perform hajj without mehram and the condition was applied for only Mohammed SAW times but not anymore, changing ISLAM, dont trust him
lol
 

Allama G

Minister (2k+ posts)
javed ahmed ghamidi tries to change hadiths, he is fake scholar/imposer...heard him saying that woman can perform hajj without mehram and the condition was applied for only Mohammed SAW times but not anymore, changing ISLAM, dont trust him
aik lakh ikhtilaf but dalail se baat krna bht achi baat hai. Jazbatiat ko side pe rakh k behs krni chahahe. Mein ghamdi sb ka follower nai but inki yeh adat achi hai.
 

concern_paki

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
what ikhtilaf..he changes the hadiths giving hiis fatwa..can do hajj without mehram?

you LIBERALS..

aik lakh ikhtilaf but dalail se baat krna bht achi baat hai. Jazbatiat ko side pe rakh k behs krni chahahe. Mein ghamdi sb ka follower nai but inki yeh adat achi hai.
 

Saboo

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
اوہو ان دو مولانا حضرات کو آپس میں مل بیٹھنے کی اجازت کس نے دی؟
دیکھنا اب یہ دونوں مرغ لڑیں گے؟
ہاہا لو کرلو گل؟...بہتر فرقے تو پہلے سے ہی تھے؟ مبارک ہو..اب چوہتر ہوے .... ?
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
what ikhtilaf..he changes the hadiths giving hiis fatwa..can do hajj without mehram?

you LIBERALS..
Yes I would also like to see what hadith has Javed Ghamdi changed according to you.

If you didn't get and understand his logical explanation then it's no one's fault but your own.

Problem is we have been brought up being taught that hadith is also holy scripture, part of creed and every word of it command and carries the same weight as the Quran when clearly that is not the case.
 

concern_paki

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
WELL ITS THE CASE YOU CANNOT CHANGE HADITHS, THAT IS THE MAIN
CONFLICT AMONG FIQAH, SUNNAH QURAN AND HADITHS ARE THE FOUNDATION OF ISLAM, I DONT WANT TO ARGUE ON THIS , PLEASE IF YOU DONT HAVE FAITH IN HADITHS, DONT TALK TO ME ON THIS SUBJECT...

IF SOME ONE CHANGE HADITHS OR DONT AGREE WITH ONE IS OUT OF ISLAM.....


Yes I would also like to see what hadith has Javed Ghamdi changed according to you.

If you didn't get and understand his logical explanation then it's no one's fault but your own.

Problem is we have been brought up being taught that hadith is also holy scripture, part of creed and every word of it command and carries the same weight as the Quran when clearly that is not the case.
 

concern_paki

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
NO NEED TO TELL LIE I AM TALKING OF THIS INCIDENT FOR 12 YEARS OR MORE WHEN I HEARD HIM ON A CHANNEL ON TV AFTER THAT I NEVER HAVE HEARD THIS PERSON, I DONT HAVE A PERSONAL ENEMITY WITH ANYONE AND ALHAMD O LILLAH I AM NOT LYING..IF YOU DONT TRUST ON ME ITS UPTO YOU I JUST SJARE THIS AS BEFORE I HEARD THAT I ALSO WAS IN THINKING HE IS A GREAT SCHOLAR...CHOICE IS YOURS !!!!

Video clip he share ker do Zara hadith change Wala... Hum bhi to daikhain kitnay he sachay ho app.. warna jhootay pay khuda ki lanat
 

concern_paki

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
NO NEED TO TELL LIE I AM TALKING OF THIS INCIDENT FOR 12 YEARS OR MORE WHEN I HEARD HIM ON A CHANNEL ON TV AFTER THAT I NEVER HAVE HEARD THIS PERSON, I DONT HAVE A PERSONAL ENEMITY WITH ANYONE AND ALHAMD O LILLAH I AM NOT LYING..IF YOU DONT TRUST ON ME ITS UPTO YOU I JUST SJARE THIS AS BEFORE I HEARD THAT I ALSO WAS IN THINKING HE IS A GREAT SCHOLAR...CHOICE IS YOURS !!!!


You are the one who is saying Ghamdi changed Hadith, I am just waiting for you to show where and what hadith he changed? Thats all
 

JBA1234234

MPA (400+ posts)
NO NEED TO TELL LIE I AM TALKING OF THIS INCIDENT FOR 12 YEARS OR MORE WHEN I HEARD HIM ON A CHANNEL ON TV AFTER THAT I NEVER HAVE HEARD THIS PERSON, I DONT HAVE A PERSONAL ENEMITY WITH ANYONE AND ALHAMD O LILLAH I AM NOT LYING..IF YOU DONT TRUST ON ME ITS UPTO YOU I JUST SJARE THIS AS BEFORE I HEARD THAT I ALSO WAS IN THINKING HE IS A GREAT SCHOLAR...CHOICE IS YOURS !!!!
when did he change hadith dumbass? dosry bandy ko fake scholar kehdiya khud kya ho tum, sabot tk nh hy tumhare pass.
 

Wake up Pak

President (40k+ posts)
How authentic are hadeeth? All man-made, Only authentic hadeeth is the word of Allah which is the Quran.
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
NO NEED TO TELL LIE I AM TALKING OF THIS INCIDENT FOR 12 YEARS OR MORE WHEN I HEARD HIM ON A CHANNEL ON TV AFTER THAT I NEVER HAVE HEARD THIS PERSON, I DONT HAVE A PERSONAL ENEMITY WITH ANYONE AND ALHAMD O LILLAH I AM NOT LYING..IF YOU DONT TRUST ON ME ITS UPTO YOU I JUST SJARE THIS AS BEFORE I HEARD THAT I ALSO WAS IN THINKING HE IS A GREAT SCHOLAR...CHOICE IS YOURS !!!!
Writing in all blocks won't change anything or add substance to your argument. You are going all over the place except quoting the hadith which you say he has changed. You keep saying he has changed the hadith but don't show us which one, and how he has changed it?
 

Faisal Mian

Minister (2k+ posts)
Javed Ahmed Ghamdi has a different point than normal scholars, that is why I always listen to him carefully and consider he is far better than those telling us "Kheera katny ka islami tareeqa"... now we have a choice, we may agree with him or may leave it...

in any case, we don't have any right to abuse him or declare any Fatwa...

I am so impressed by his ethical values
 

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