What if Pakistan did not have the bomb? Pervez Hoodbhoy

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: What if Pakistan did not have the bomb?

Mr. Hoodbhoy expresses his opinions and its fine to criticize him. He is a fine scientist and a good teacher. Out side of Pakistan Mr. A Q Khan is known as a thief.

Can U deny the fact that our hero are Ur enemies, and vice versa? Do U remember the Great Sultan Mahmood Ghaznvi and SOMNAAT? Deception works only the blind.
 

cefspan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: What if Pakistan did not have the bomb?

Mr. Hoodbhoy expresses his opinions and its fine to criticize him. He is a fine scientist and a good teacher. Out side of Pakistan Mr. A Q Khan is known as a thief.

But not by all , many even consider USA as thief :

Germany had "dirty nukes" , Russians would have been 1st to land on moon, and much more. ....... . .. .. . .. . .. . . . . .. .. . . . . . . .. . ...........................
 

saeed khan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: What if Pakistan did not have the bomb?

Mr. Hoodbhoy expresses his opinions and its fine to criticize him. He is a fine scientist and a good teacher. Out side of Pakistan Mr. A Q Khan is known as a thief.

When US and India dislike or oppose Dr Abdul Qadir Khan Sb then a Pakistani respect Dr Sb more than before.
East India Co did not like Tipu Sultan, it liked Mir Jafer and Mir Sadiq.
Quaid e Azam made Pakistan and Dr Abdul Qadir Khan Sb. saved Pakistan.
You do not need to respect Dr Sb we are enough who respect Dr Sb as a father of new Pakistan. You respect Bal Thakrey and have cow cola.
 
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saeed khan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: What if Pakistan did not have the bomb?

But not by all , many even consider USA as thief :

Germany had "dirty nukes" , Russians would have been 1st to land on moon, and much more. ....... . .. .. . .. . .. . . . . .. .. . . . . . . .. . ...........................

you mean "chore machae shore"
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: What if Pakistan did not have the bomb?

Mr. Hoodbhoy expresses his opinions and its fine to criticize him. He is a fine scientist and a good teacher. Out side of Pakistan Mr. A Q Khan is known as a thief.

Dear Unicorn, are people who are robing others according to their self made laws based upon double standard not thieves? I say they are and so do many others who believe that there should be rule of law based upon single standard. Either we use moral terminology for all or none. In the quranic concept anyone who controls land and resources for the purpose of holding others to ransom is a thief and transgressor against god and humanity. So it is a matter of kettle calling pot black.

Double standard simply means you make laws that suit you at expense of others so you do what is to your advantage and call it ok. By same standard one breaks that law and takes advantage so who is really at fault? The fact is so long as we have unfair laws people will never respect them because according to them they are not right laws, for they are not based upon fairness and single standard. Robin hood story is still taught in schools.

regards and all the best.
 

Unicorn

Banned
Re: What if Pakistan did not have the bomb?

But not by all , many even consider USA as thief :

Germany had "dirty nukes" , Russians would have been 1st to land on moon, and much more. ....... . .. .. . .. . .. . . . . .. .. . . . . . . .. . ...........................

US hired German scientist, some of the scientists escaped Germany during Nazi rule, like Albert Einstein. Non of those scientist stole anything. When did Germans had dirty nukes? They had rockets with conventional bombs that were not effective as they had no guidance system. Mr Khan stole and then called it the product of his science.
 

dildada

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
People you dont (or dont want to) agree with = CIA/RAW/Yahoodi agents that receive funding from Qadiyani Freemason Secret Societies

very classy and very humble of you all.

It appears that ONLY reason Pakistan exists (or can survive) is to be as ridiculously ANTI-INDIA and ANTI-HINDU as possible to the extent people are brainwashed from school with distorted history books and dubious facts given by media about how much India is our enemy etc. And what has that acheived for us?? NOTHING!

Not that hard to manipulate and brainwash a people.

People like you are brainwashed by such liar who are talking with their Master tongue. You will see when USA attack on us with the help of people like you, they will tolerate to you too, they will fire on your ***, they even dont care that you was their shoe licker.
 

dildada

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: What if Pakistan did not have the bomb?

US hired German scientist, some of the scientists escaped Germany during Nazi rule, like Albert Einstein. Non of those scientist stole anything. When did Germans had dirty nukes? They had rockets with conventional bombs that were not effective as they had no guidance system. Mr Khan stole and then called it the product of his science.

And you were probably watching AQK while stole.
 

canadian

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: What if Pakistan did not have the bomb?

Pervez Hoodbhoy is CIA agent, i dont want to even listen or read him

He's anti Pakistan and a real nasty character,Indians like him though for obvious reasons.We would not have survived today if we didn't have those bombs.......real pain in the *** for all of them.Has anybody ever questioned why India is stockpiling all those nuclear bombs and weapons which can destroy half the world ? What is their aim ? Do they want to capture and defeat China or US or any other Country.......They have only one aim and that is to destroy Pakistan.
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: What if Pakistan did not have the bomb?

US hired German scientist, some of the scientists escaped Germany during Nazi rule, like Albert Einstein. Non of those scientist stole anything. When did Germans had dirty nukes? They had rockets with conventional bombs that were not effective as they had no guidance system. Mr Khan stole and then called it the product of his science.

If you are applying this rule of stealing
then rocket concept came from Muslims
All US Russia UK India are thieves then because initial idea was not theirs...


If you scientist read US or German authors books
are they not stealing the concept from there, well, by your own standard...
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: What if Pakistan did not have the bomb?

Nope we just didn't had anything worth stealing. It was the Dutch sleeping.

Have Dutch tested a nuclear device?

Now you wish you had not written this..
 

only_truths

Minister (2k+ posts)
Pakistan would not have had a nuclear bomb if india had not one! Why do we forget our neighbors designs? Why does india have N bombs? Are they against China/ or Russia? or Nepal? or Bangladesh?or Iran? or Afghanistan?
If Pakistan did not have N bombs PH would be a teacher in the primary school in a remote village somewhere in india! and I am sure he would be happy then. He can always go there even now, what is stopping him?
Mr. PH is blissfully ignorent of so many things or chooses to do so, thus the very fact that he has no idea of the politics surrounding Pakistan is enough to disregard his "Naive" comments as illogocal-while-living-in-a-fools-paradise should be enough.

Agreed, if India is doing some thing wrong, why would you want to emulate? because India would have attacked with bum? Remember Kargil, India was shelling into Pakistan to fight the so called non-state actors. Why did not Pakistan throw a bum then instead sent their PM rushing to America?

Remember India has moved away from making bums and now there are more Nuclear power plants producing tons of MW power to light many villages. On the other hand, I heard Pakistan has more bums than France and set to become fourth largest in number of bums.

In 21st century, it is the economics, trade and people who makes countries safe not the bums. India understands this and that is why our bum stockpile is way less than yours.
 

canadian

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Agreed, if India is doing some thing wrong, why would you want to emulate? because India would have attacked with bum? Remember Kargil, India was shelling into Pakistan to fight the so called non-state actors. Why did not Pakistan throw a bum then instead sent their PM rushing to America?

Remember India has moved away from making bums and now there are more Nuclear power plants producing tons of MW power to light many villages. On the other hand, I heard Pakistan has more bums than France and set to become fourth largest in number of bums.

In 21st century, it is the economics, trade and people who makes countries safe not the bums. India understands this and that is why our bum stockpile is way less than yours.

Yes stopped making them because you have a stockpile enough to destroy this planet earth....lol
 

Unicorn

Banned
Re: What if Pakistan did not have the bomb?


If you are applying this rule of stealing
then rocket concept came from Muslims
All US Russia UK India are thieves then because initial idea was not theirs...


If you scientist read US or German authors books
are they not stealing the concept from there, well, by your own standard...

Taking an Idea and perfecting to usefulness is not theft. Rockets of the Tipu era was a crude idea but it had no effect on the British. First Rocket was built by India not Pakistan.

Idea of a Musket was a crude idea then perfected.
 
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Unicorn

Banned
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Have Dutch tested a nuclear device?

Now you wish you had not written this..

Dutch never tested a nuclear device. Dutch discovered centerfuse technology Mr. Khan stole the technology while employed by the Duch company as a trusted employee.
 

Unicorn

Banned
Re: What if Pakistan did not have the bomb?

He's anti Pakistan and a real nasty character,Indians like him though for obvious reasons.We would not have survived today if we didn't have those bombs.......real pain in the *** for all of them.Has anybody ever questioned why India is stockpiling all those nuclear bombs and weapons which can destroy half the world ? What is their aim ? Do they want to capture and defeat China or US or any other Country.......They have only one aim and that is to destroy Pakistan.

We are not objecting to your nuclear bombs just acknowledge that Mr. Khan stole the technology thats all.
 

Exposer

Citizen
پاکستان میں غداروں کو ہمیشہ بڑے عھدے اور پروٹوکول دے گئے ہیں . ھود بھاہے اور مشرف اس کی زندہ مثالیں ہیں جبکہ محب وقتن اور قربانیاں دینے والوں کو ہمیشہ سزائیں دی دی گئیں ہیں جیسے ڈاکٹر قدیر خان صاب ہیں.
کچھ لوگ بڑے بڑے عھدے لے کر بھی ذلیل و رسوا ہوتے ہیں اور کچھ لوگ بغیر عھدوں کے بھی دلوں میں راج کرتے ہیں.
ڈاکٹر یہود تم موجودہ دور کے میر جعفر ہو اور اس دنیا سے رخصتی تک لعنتیں ہی لیتے رہو گے.
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: What if Pakistan did not have the bomb?

Dutch never tested a nuclear device. Dutch discovered centerfuse technology Mr. Khan stole the technology while employed by the Duch company as a trusted employee.

Enriching Uranium does not mean that you are able to make nuclear device although it helps
There is a whole lot technology and facilities required to make the nuclear device

His background helped, no doubt, but he developed the mechanism with his team to convert this into a nuclear device

Now come to India, how much of your program is indigenous
did any of your scientists consult any books written by the west or you developed the whole thing from concept to delivery..