We can stop the drones if political government allows us - Pakistan Air Force

arslan4u

Minister (2k+ posts)
This statement should silence those anti-Army propagandists who blamed Army for allowing drone attacks. Now it is clear that its not the Army that allows them, its the government.

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Air Force has assured the government that no foreign helicopters or fighter planes will be allowed to violate the Pakistani air space in future and if ordered, the PAF can shoot down the US drones.

Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman has accepted the responsibility of air surveillance failure but informed the government that the entry of American helicopters into the Pakistani air space was not detected because the radars deployed on the western borders were not active on May 2. He dispelled the impression that the Pakistani radars were jammed.

The success of American operation against Osama bin Laden has raised many questions about the capability of Pakistan Army and Air Force. Tension between Pakistan and the US further increased on Friday after another drone attack in the tribal area. The PAF clearly told the government that they never perceived any threat for urban areas of Pakistan from Afghanistan and that was why the radars deployed close to the western borders were on rest. It was learnt that radars deployed on the borders with India and the LoC with the Indian occupied Kashmir are active 24 hours and that was why Pakistan came to know about a possible Indian attack in December 2008 immediately after the Mumbai attacks. It was the evening of December 21, 2008 when Pakistan came to know about the unusual movement of Indian Army and Air Force. When the threat was confirmed, then within minutes Pakistan Air Force night fighters were ordered to fly.

Pakistan has two kinds of radars, high-level radars and low-level radars. High-level radars are meant to protect the air space. Low-level radars are used for training flights. The maximum life of high-level radars is 25,000 hours. These radars need overhauling after three years and they cannot work after nine years. Due to the expensive nature of high-level radars, Pakistan Air Force does not use these machines 24 hours on western borders and that was the reason the American helicopters entered Pakistan without challenge.

It was also learnt that Pakistan Air Force informed the government long ago for the need of a modern surveillance system, which could cover all the areas of Pakistan. On the request of the PAF, the former government made a deal with Sweden and China for the purchase of modern aircraft with radar systems.

The PAF has received three Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS) planes from Sweden and one more will come in June 2011. China has provided one ZDK-03 Airborne Early Warning and Control (AEWC) plane and three more will come at the end of this year. These modern machines will be activated soon and it will cover the whole of Pakistan. In the meanwhile, PAF activated all radars deployed on the western borders after the May 2 incident, which means that foreign forces present in Afghanistan will now be considered as a threat to the security of Pakistan.

Defence sources are of the view that the CIA chiefs statement about Pakistan had forced them to think objectively and honestly about our real friends and real enemies. These sources clearly said: Osama bin Laden declared war not only against America but also against Pakistan Army, we lost 3,500 soldiers, we arrested most of his close comrades but Americans never took us into confidence about the May 2 operation and even after the success of their unilateral operation, they tried to humiliate us in their traditional arrogant style but we will not tolerate their arrogance in future.

When asked why there was another drone attack in North Waziristan on Friday, the defence sources said, We can stop the drones like we destroyed one Indian drone a few years back at the night time, let the political government allow us and we will not disappoint our countrymen. They insist: We were not sure about the identity of intruders on May 2 but when the PAF chief came to know about the presence of some helicopters in Abbottabad through the Army, he immediately ordered his night fighters to shoot down the unknown helicopters. Night fighters were in the air within 15 minutes but when they reached Abbottabad, by that time the unknown helicopters had disappeared.

These sources say: Let them come again from the west or even from the east and the world will see our real action.


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How long will government continue this hypocrisy of condemning drone attacks and secretly allowing them? The sit-ins at Peshawar and Karachi are for exactly this purpose, to pressurize the government to stop its hypocrisy and admit that it allows drone attacks. If drone attacks continue after 21-22nd May Sit-in at Karachi, then the next stop is Islamabad.
 

mt_dilber

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: We can stop the drones if political government allows us - PAF

Do they ask for 'permission' when they deal with USA for $, Permission my foot. They just want politicians to bell the cat because they cant.
 

arslan4u

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: We can stop the drones if political government allows us - PAF

Do they ask for 'permission' when they deal with USA for $, Permission my foot. They just want politicians to bell the cat because they cant.
If they make deals with US for $$$ then politicians do the same. If they cant bell the cat then politicians also cannot bell the cat. Even if that is the case, the responsibility falls on the government because the law makes Army subordinate to civilian government. Politicians can not take all the benefits, commissions, bullet proof cars, free trips abroad and then hide from their responsibilities anymore, its time to answer for their deeds.
 

shamsheer

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: We can stop the drones if political government allows us - PAF

Do they ask for 'permission' when they deal with USA for $, Permission my foot. They just want politicians to bell the cat because they cant.

What ever it is, army has played its card. Now lets see what badmash brothers has to do. It is worth another long march. The others in the coalition cannot do anything, as Q league does not have strenght, MQM does not have character.
 

crankthskunk

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: We can stop the drones if political government allows us - PAF

“We were not sure about the identity of intruders on May 2 but when the PAF chief came to know about the presence of some helicopters in Abbottabad through the Army, he immediately ordered his night fighters to shoot down the unknown helicopters. Night fighters were in the air within 15 minutes but when they reached Abbottabad, by that time the unknown helicopters had disappeared”.

The politicians are liars, no doubt, but so are our Army and Air Force officers. He is lying, I have already given the time frames, if he says the Aircrafts were in the air in 15 minutes, they had over 1 and hour to shoot down the helicopters if they wished. He chickened out, because Americans fighters were in the air near Jalalabad with an AWACS for cover.
 
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arslan4u

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: We can stop the drones if political government allows us - PAF

The politicians are liars, no doubt, but so are our Army and Air Force officers. He is lying, I have already given the time frames, if he says the Aircrafts were in the air in 15 minutes, they had over 1 and hour to shoot down the helicopters if they wished. He chickened out, because Americans fighters were in the air near Jalalabad with an AWACS for cover.
I am not talking about Abbotabad operation here, my point was that its the government that is allowing drone attacks.
Surely there are many lies regarding Abbotabad operation coming from all sides, but if the airforce had gone after those helicopters then it could have sparked an all-out war with America and certainly Pakistan is not ready for that.
 

az.ay

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: We can stop the drones if political government allows us - PAF

Now we will see if these political parties have any courage of ordering to shoot down the drones.
 

haqiqat

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: We can stop the drones if political government allows us - PAF

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This picture tells a lot of things why not send this picture to everyone in our government
 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Re: We can stop the drones if political government allows us - PAF

Zardari is receiving $$$ for every drone flight and every person killed...

After the dronre flight , he used to call US and ask , how many killed, turn on his calculator and the tell them to send this much money in his accout...

So how he could stop his rozi roti ?

Change your president...
 

zeshaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: We can stop the drones if political government allows us - PAF

Is anyone REMEMBER the AIRCHIEF who was shotdown over KOHAT area during mushaf (the traiter)era.He was against giving any air base to any other country.